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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by Charham

Great day. So close to sweep. And yes the tie in the parlay meant I hit for 200, little bonus money. Thought it might push the thing with that tie.

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How did it go down to 200 from 500?

Sounds like they ripped you off.

You sure it wasn't 400 to 200?

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Here it is, paid 200 plus my 20?

PARLAY (5 TEAMS) 01/22/18 19:24 EST
Bet $ 20.00 to win $ 500.00 (paid $ 220.00) Result: Wager Won
Miami Heat 90 vs Houston Rockets 99 01/22/18 20:10 EST Under 213 (-110)
Philadelphia 76ers 101 vs Memphis Grizzlies 105 01/22/18 20:05 EST Memphis Grizzlies +4 (-110)
Portland Trail Blazers 101 vs Denver Nuggets 104 01/22/18 21:05 EST Portland Trail Blazers +3 (-110)
Portland Trail Blazers 101 vs Denver Nuggets 104 01/22/18 21:05 EST Under 210.5 (-110)
Utah Jazz 90 vs Atlanta Hawks 104 01/22/18 19:35 EST Atlanta Hawks +2.5 (-110)

Yeah, you got screwed. A 4-teamer at -110 should pay 12.28:1, so your $20 bet should win $245.67 (plus your risk amount).

Oddly, $20 on the 5-teamer should have won $487, so you were actually getting better odds there.

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Originally Posted by Charham

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

How did it go down to 200 from 500?

Sounds like they ripped you off.

You sure it wasn't 400 to 200?

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Here it is, paid 200 plus my 20?

PARLAY (5 TEAMS) 01/22/18 19:24 EST
Bet $ 20.00 to win $ 500.00 (paid $ 220.00) Result: Wager Won
Miami Heat 90 vs Houston Rockets 99 01/22/18 20:10 EST Under 213 (-110)
Philadelphia 76ers 101 vs Memphis Grizzlies 105 01/22/18 20:05 EST Memphis Grizzlies +4 (-110)
Portland Trail Blazers 101 vs Denver Nuggets 104 01/22/18 21:05 EST Portland Trail Blazers +3 (-110)
Portland Trail Blazers 101 vs Denver Nuggets 104 01/22/18 21:05 EST Under 210.5 (-110)
Utah Jazz 90 vs Atlanta Hawks 104 01/22/18 19:35 EST Atlanta Hawks +2.5 (-110)

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Ok here is the rule: If there is a tie or no action, the parlay reverts to the next lowest number for pay-off, for example: if you select 4 teams and one of those ties, it becomes a 3 team parlay. A tie and win on a 2 team parlay pays out as a straight bet.


So it should be a 4 team parlay payout then? How do I calculate that win amount?

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Originally Posted by KidPresentable

Yeah, you got screwed. A 4-teamer at -110 should pay 12.28:1, so your $20 bet should win $245.67 (plus your risk amount).

Oddly, $20 on the 5-teamer should have won $487, so you were actually getting better odds there.

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Cool. Thanks. I’ll write them now.

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Originally Posted by Charham

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Originally Posted by KidPresentable

Yeah, you got screwed. A 4-teamer at -110 should pay 12.28:1, so your $20 bet should win $245.67 (plus your risk amount).

Oddly, $20 on the 5-teamer should have won $487, so you were actually getting better odds there.

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Cool. Thanks. I’ll write them now.

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When it comes to parlays there are generally two accepted pay tables generally known as "Las Vegas" and "Offshore". The "Offshore" one pays better.

FIXED ODDS PARLAY TABLE
# of Teams Las Vegas Payout **Offshore Payout
2 13/5 13/5
3 6/1 6/1
4 10/1 12.28/1
5 20/1 24.35/1
6 40/1 47.41/1
7 75/1 91.42/1
8 150/1 175.44/1

Seems like you got a book that has its own table. They pay out more than they traditionally should on a 5 teamer at 25-1. When you had a push it moved all the way down to 10-1.

You didn't get "fucked" per se, but this sites 4 team odds aren't very good.

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Originally Posted by KidPresentable

Yeah, you got screwed. A 4-teamer at -110 should pay 12.28:1, so your $20 bet should win $245.67 (plus your risk amount).

Oddly, $20 on the 5-teamer should have won $487, so you were actually getting better odds there.

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Yeah exactly.

Weird.

Maybe look up the 4-team odds on that book and see if you got paid right.

Which book was this?

I'm pretty sure I know what happened here.... I'm going to take a wild guess and say that this guy is using sportsbook.ag

I noticed a long time ago that there is some weird glitch that happens on 4 team parlays... Just go there and test it out:

 

-pick 4 random games that are listed at -110 (has to be -110) , parlay payout shows up as +1000

-now buy a half point on 1 of the games and watch the parlay payout magically change to +1176

-so you gain a half point on one of your games AND you gain +176 worth of value on the payout

-weird as hell but true

-now try it on a 5 game parlay.... it does NOT help you (also does not help you on 2 or 3 team parlays)

-now try it on a 6 game parlay... when buying a half point on one of the games your odds magically upgrade from +4000 to +4549

-now try it on a 7 game parlay... odds magically go from +7500 to +8776

there is obviously some kind of glitch in the system and hopefully me posting this here does not alert them and they fix this for when i actually hit one of these monster parlays lol

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Originally Posted by simpdog

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I just spoilered it so google doesn't pick it up (or at least I hope it won't).

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Originally Posted by Daly

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Originally Posted by Charham

Cool. Thanks. I’ll write them now.

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When it comes to parlays there are generally two accepted pay tables generally known as "Las Vegas" and "Offshore". The "Offshore" one pays better.

FIXED ODDS PARLAY TABLE
# of Teams Las Vegas Payout **Offshore Payout
2 13/5 13/5
3 6/1 6/1
4 10/1 12.28/1
5 20/1 24.35/1
6 40/1 47.41/1
7 75/1 91.42/1
8 150/1 175.44/1

Seems like you got a book that has its own table. They pay out more than they traditionally should on a 5 teamer at 25-1. When you had a push it moved all the way down to 10-1.

You didn't get "fucked" per se, but this sites 4 team odds aren't very good.

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ok thanks Daly. I found the table and you are correct.

Payout [all prices -110]
American Odds
2 Teams
13 to 5
+260
3 Teams
6 to 1
+640
4 Teams
10 to 1
+1000
5 Teams
25 to 1

Goes to show how profitable Parlays are. A major public book has no issues offering above market rate on a 5 teamer.

No problem throwing one together every now and again, kind of like buying a powerball ticket. You can't have parlays as a major part of your action week in and week out.

Patriots will wear their road white jerseys in Super Bowl LII against the Philadelphia Eagles, per @MikeReiss. The team wearing white jerseys has won the Super Bowl in 12 of the previous 13 seasons, per @EpKap.

Kudo’s Rollinx. Instant respect

On the subject of parlays

Any of you guys follow this story... the buyout offers and the tragic way he settled during the Pats game? $27 to win 41k



The VSiN’s guys have been tracking last few weeks and it’s been a fun listen. This link should give you a clip with summary

https://mobile.twitter.com/VSiNLive/...359552/video/1

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Originally Posted by Sanlmar

Kudo’s Rollinx. Instant respect

On the subject of parlays

Any of you guys follow this story... the buyout offers and the tragic way he settled during the Pats game? $27 to win 41k



The VSiN’s guys have been tracking last few weeks and it’s been a fun listen. This link should give you a clip with summary

https://mobile.twitter.com/VSiNLive/...359552/video/1

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Better off using a book without the cash out option. No temptation.

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Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass

Better off using a book without the cash out option. No temptation.

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It’s the myriad of options you have avail that make it fun.

There were live game options. You coulda gotten Pats at 4:1 at that point. I got some. There were other outs. Your head could explode working it out but you always have to have a disaster plan going in.

I mean the Pats COULD lose. Hard to imagine but it’s possible.

VSiN live wagering discussion and in game broadcasts have made me a better citizen.

I am nothing short of a groupie now. I am on the wrong side of the glass

K. Love under 17 points -115 (Bovada)
W. Cauley-Stein over 8.5 rebounds -125 (Bovada)

They'll almost certainly cancel it, but I bet this on 5dimes just because I could:
1/23/18 8:05pm NBA Props Basketball 6293 K.Love rebounds over 10 +6034* vs K.Love rebounds under 10

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Originally Posted by KidPresentable

K. Love under 17 points -115 (Bovada)
W. Cauley-Stein over 8.5 rebounds -125 (Bovada)

They'll almost certainly cancel it, but I bet this on 5dimes just because I could:
1/23/18 8:05pm NBA Props Basketball 6293 K.Love rebounds over 10 +6034* vs K.Love rebounds under 10

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I guess you don't like playing at 5 Dimes to much? Id call them if I was you and try to cancel it Tony will ban your ass doing shit like that..


Betting into a obv bad line is a big no no there.

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Originally Posted by badguy23

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Originally Posted by KidPresentable

K. Love under 17 points -115 (Bovada)
W. Cauley-Stein over 8.5 rebounds -125 (Bovada)

They'll almost certainly cancel it, but I bet this on 5dimes just because I could:
1/23/18 8:05pm NBA Props Basketball 6293 K.Love rebounds over 10 +6034* vs K.Love rebounds under 10

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I guess you don't like playing at 5 Dimes to much? Id call them if I was you and try to cancel it Tony will ban your ass doing shit like that..


Betting into a obv bad line is a big no no there.

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This. 100%

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Originally Posted by Daly

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Originally Posted by badguy23

I guess you don't like playing at 5 Dimes to much? Id call them if I was you and try to cancel it Tony will ban your ass doing shit like that..


Betting into a obv bad line is a big no no there.

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This. 100%

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My book has K Love rebounds at 9.5 -115. What am I missing? Why would this get someone banned?

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Originally Posted by jsearles22

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Originally Posted by Daly

This. 100%

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My book has K Love rebounds at 9.5 -115. What am I missing? Why would this get someone banned?

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his line on the bet was +6000...apparently the guy who runs 5dimes doesn't like people taking advantage of his site fucking up and putting shitty lines up...