I hope UnitedHealthCare stock crashes and the company is liquidated. They have fucked over their customers for far too long.
Health care in America is criminal.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset...le&format=webp
Printable View
I hope UnitedHealthCare stock crashes and the company is liquidated. They have fucked over their customers for far too long.
Health care in America is criminal.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset...le&format=webp
Lol diabetesQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
This case is high profile as fuck and winnable. I imagine there will be an army of lawyers willing to take this one on. They’d do it for free, but in this case, his family seems to have money also, so maybe they won’t even have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
Whatever lawyer takes it though, if his back and denied coverage in his defense, they are cringing watching him all animated and jumping out of the cruiser and struggling and turning to address the crowd.
I imagine most would have him coming out of that squad car looking like a cripple and saying he was under the influence of multiple pain killers the night of the shooting to even pull it off which impaired his judgement.
Being this able bodied when they’ve had you for over 24 hou takes that off the table I’d think. Being angry and animated doesn’t feel like he’s doing himself any favors.
Man wearing face covering hanging outside a hotel in Midtown Manhattan at 6:45 AM Pre-Covid = Suspicious.
Man wearing face covering hanging outside a hotel in Midtown Manhattan at 6:45 Am Post-Covid = Normal.
I don’t want to live in a police state. But there has to be some middle ground here. Would he have still committed this crime if masking wasn’t normalized? Probably. Would he have been identified and caught much sooner? Absolutely.
It’s your classic civil liberties vs public safety conundrum. I don’t know the answer. But it’s a problem.
You’re fucking hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy JoeLol diabetesQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
sir this is a wendysQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
perhaps i missed it, but i heard his family is rich. why is the denial of some life altering care an issue worth going to jail forever for? why wouldn't the family just pay cash. doesn't make sense.
by and large, the reason health insurers deny so many claims is bc it is very cost effective for them to do so. by and large claims against them for doing so is limited by a federal law (ERISA) which curtails your ability to recover anything, much less put the screws to an insurer to deter such future conduct.
conversely, state systems govern auto insurers denying coverage for claims and liability on claims. in many states lawyers can work a claim in such a manner as to have a bad faith claim against the insurer which they rightfully fear. as a result, they are much more careful about denying auto claims and coverage for them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
why did bush knock down those towers?
How he got caught
I would guess that this isn’t really about his actual case and how it was handled by United. I was a claims adjuster/investigator for years and then when I had to deal with a workers comp adjuster for Travelers it was not a great experience. It’s certainly different when it’s your personal health at stake. So medical claims are just a whole different beast than property/casualty claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
I’m sure his experience was not great and didn’t help his pre-existing contempt for the industry. He may have also been in hospital settings and seeing how others were dealt with. Being familiar with the industry, I got to say the case manager who tries to get you out of the hospital as quickly as possible has been tough for me to listen to deceive others. I know they are coming to the patient in the guise of assisting them when all they truly want is to get them the fuck out of the hospital.
I know I am rambling a bit but I think my feeling is that there is plenty of negative stuff you see when you are dealing with a major medical problem. It may not really have much to do with yout own personal case. So this guy may have not had to worry about his actual surgery and work on his back. But his time around the system could have furthered his contempt and eventually radicalized him to who he became today.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
why did bush knock down those towers?
joy, look who has descended from on high to enlighten us with more of his sanctimonious musings.
His grandfather was super wealthy. But he had 37 grandchildren. He wrote about his mother having severe neuropathy and struggling to pay 6k deductible each year. I have no idea. Seems to be a lot of money floating around family, but divorces, bad investments, maybe he ended up on the poor side somehow and only had schooling covered. It is puzzling why he’s the voice of this movement right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TellafriendQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
really rich families don't concern themselves to this degree with these details imo.
Fighting extradition from PA to NY. Strange choice. I can’t imagine wanting to stand trial in PA over NY given his crime.
His family owns a conservative radio station if I heard that correctly
Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
this is pure conjecture of course but its possible that wherever hes sequestered is better than rikers.
That makes sense. You know you’re getting shipped anyway, but I’m sure where he’s at is better than Rikers. Buy some timeQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by BCR
this is pure conjecture of course but its possible that wherever hes sequestered is better than rikers.
While the back surgery definitely fucked him up….it may have been a denial to fix that big ole Shnozola that sent him over the top. Cosmetic ain’t covered.
I hope we get Medicare for all and UHG is chosen as the sole administrator.
Such a smart kid, and he didn't realize the main reason for the "low" US life expectancy is lifestyle, not poor healthcare?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
For example, Asian Amerians have a life expectancy of over 85, which is higher than any country in the world. So clearly if our healthcare system was producing bad outcomes, we wouldn't have a subgroup averaging 85 fucking years old.
This shows how conspiratards overthink everything to the point of missing the obvious.
I wonder how huge brows affect one's life expectancy.
It's more than just "lifestyle".
In America, people eat shit.
Most people don't exercise enough.
Their lives are way too stressful.
Genetics also is a factor.
Donald Trump eats McDonalds everyday and has somehow made it to 78 years old. Unbelievable.
Life expectancy in America is 75 years for men and 80 years for women.
https://people.com/thmb/yBh6SY56OJl_...53f34efee8.jpg
After reading thru his twitter and goodreads, I come to the conclusion hes a moron, andrew huberman watcher-type, mistakes Correlation for causation, vice-versa.
His theory's of philosophy and a few of the papers he wrote in Highschool present a very immature mind, curious and smart, but needing another 15 years real world experience - after learning his background I think he got confused by being a rich top 1% child with regular human issues, which gave him this populist attraction and identity as a 'regular average loser (by-no-fault-of-there-own) American, totally average sufferer'. He was not average at all and his identifying with the common man poisoned his though process, imho.
His thoerys and writings weren't even interesting, extremely reductionist, and no substance - nothing to learn from reading them - you will be dumber.
I think he stewed on his pain with his back for years, and snapped, this has been a long planned event, and I am just curious why he would walk around with the evidence almost a week later a few hundred miles from ny in a fucking public mcdnalds, he had massive family in maryland, I imagine he could have found a place to hide and family can look the other way, at least for a while. Why he felt he needed to stay in the area is strange, the only idea that makes any sense is he had another target either a specific person or he was still trying to choose another person..
Odd way to go about things, even after you decide to kill and run. Odd run.
His writings are full of horrible reductionist bullshit that leaves his conclusions so far away from reality he is exposing nothing but his own ignorance. I was hoping for a better anti-hero-type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffSuch a smart kid, and he didn't realize the main reason for the "low" US life expectancy is lifestyle, not poor healthcare?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
For example, Asian Amerians have a life expectancy of over 85, which is higher than any country in the world. So clearly if our healthcare system was producing bad outcomes, we wouldn't have a subgroup averaging 85 fucking years old.
This shows how conspiratards overthink everything to the point of missing the obvious.
I wonder how huge brows affect one's life expectancy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Shouting Out the Feds, complimenting his own personal opSec, and properly quoting sources, this is just pure gold, he is blind to himself
Actually our healthcare is great, if we were all fat and lazy elsewhere we would die waiting for socialized care
motive speculation: age 26, can't stay on parents insurance any longer, denied treatment coverage for back due to preexisting conditions,?
That unibrow grew in quickkkkkk.
https://i.ibb.co/f89W4sq/IMG-0091.jpg
I suspect pain and zoomer self medication scrambled his noggin.Quote:
Originally Posted by aayjay
Frustration over the life he felt he was entitled to prolly entered into the mental breakdown.
Has anything been said about his employment? Still working last 6 months? Job performance plummet? Starting to unravel career wise?
Another mental health casualty
Eat the rich
the screws in his spine basically made it impossible for him to fuck.
like real talk someone was gonna die over that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarI suspect pain and zoomer self medication scrambled his noggin.Quote:
Originally Posted by aayjay
Frustration over the life he felt he was entitled to prolly entered into the mental breakdown.
Has anything been said about his employment? Still working last 6 months? Job performance plummet? Starting to unravel career wise?
Another mental health casualty
Curious to find out how much drugs or medications etc he was or had been taking
Prolly will be presented during his insanity defenseQuote:
Originally Posted by aayjayQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Curious to find out how much drugs or medications etc he was or had been taking
Aaron Rodgers MD
In Maryland, you can stay on your parents' health insurance plan until you're 29
If you have existing health insurance, it will likely cover you if you get sick or injured in Hawaii
It’s been about a decade since I’ve been dealing with coverage shit but it doesn’t look like much has changed. I checked on the above and it is what I thought. In every state you can stay on your parent’s plan until 26 under federal law and many states have passed additional waiver up until your 30th birthday. This has nothing to do with being part of the “household”. You don’t have to live with your parents to qualify. Coverage extends to Hawaii/Alaska under most plans.
One would think being from a wealthy family he did have coverage under his parent’s plan. Especially due to the fact he went to both college and graduate school. I would find it hard to believe he didn’t have coverage under his parent’s plan.
Now, being a poker player there were alot of guys who didn’t have coverage when they were his age. If that were the case then things could have gotten a little messy. What you don’t want to happen is a major problem like this back issue to arise. Acute sickness technically means the provider must administer care to the uninsured until they are deemed stable.
Typically something like someone has Luekemia and goes to the emergency room asking for chemotherapy is considered “acute”. If uninsured it will always be a bit of a fight, but if his condition is considered “acute” then by law they would have to provide the treatment. Obviously there is plenty of gray area here.
But the problem for this gindaloon, if he indeed didn’t have insurance at first, would be twofold;
1)It’s unlikely a back surgery would be considered necessary treatment for an acute illness. If he somehow did get the surgery done while uninsured and still was in pain…he is basically out of luck at this point. Pain management (drugs) was probably the only road forward.
2)Not sure with Obamacare because it was done right after my time but he would probably run into issues if he went to buy insurance after being diagnosed with the back issue. If he was trying to have additional surgeries and had bought a plan on the exchange after diagnosis, there certainly would be coverage issues.
But I do think this is all probably moot. If I had to wager he did have insurance and his back was just fucked. The surgery probably didn’t help much and he was destined to treat with a combo of painkillers and physical therapy the rest of his life.
Tbh it’s more likely the surgeon did a shitty job than the insurance company caused any real problems for me. But killing the surgeon is not going after the “system”. Killing a Health Insurer CEO is going after the “system”. Even though given all I wrote about I highly doubt the insurance company had anything to do with what happened to this fucker’s back.
Just to add this is where medical insurance and all other insurance is different. When they were debating Obamacare they talked about “Guarantee Issue” and covering pre-existing conditions. Now you can’t by fire insurance on a building while it’s burning to the ground. You can’t buy car insurance while you are in your car after just causing a 8 car pile-up.
But “Gaurantee Issue” really means you should be able to buy insurance while you are in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. It’s part of why private health insurance is never going to work well and it’s such a clusterfuck. So because of all these protections that force insurers to insure the sick, in order to be profitable they get subsidies, the delay claims and the deny legitimate claims. It sucks but it’s the way things are right now.
That’s all I got. I will be interested to learn what his medical insurance status was.
Sounds like he had Uhc and doc prolly wanted to do revision surgery and they denied due to prior condition or not agreeing with improving his condition.
Def not the surgeon. If so, he would have gone after him.
Having the right orthopedic surgeon for any major musculoskeletal issue is sooooooo important. Do your homework it will make the difference between being functional and disability.
I recommend what I had, a trauma surgeon with tonsss of experience. It is solely his expertise that I walk most all the time pain free when going in did not look good.