Don't look now, but after appearing to be headed to an early career end, Madison Bumgarner is now making his 4th good start in a row.
His first 3 were disasterous, and his 2020 was also horrific.
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Don't look now, but after appearing to be headed to an early career end, Madison Bumgarner is now making his 4th good start in a row.
His first 3 were disasterous, and his 2020 was also horrific.
Kershaw may quit baseball when he sees Ohtani in person tomorrow.
Never selling my Ohtani MVP future
Indians game 0-0 through 8, but they’re being no hit again through 8. Hoping to jinx it. Hitting costs $ obviously. Hold onto those under 5 total hits props. Way live. Only 3 thus far.
Edit-crap. Reds scored 2. Has any team ever been no hit twice in first 30 games? How about and been in first place?
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Originally Posted by BCR
It might have been the Mariners a few years back that got no hit a bunch in one season. 2 times in first 30 maybe not.. Don't look now but Manaea from the A's might make two in one night.
Yeah, from a quick glance, the Mariners in 2019 and Padres in 2001 both got no hit twice. The Mariners was in a short window like this, not start.Quote:
Originally Posted by padre33Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
It might have been the Mariners a few years back that got no hit a bunch in one season. 2 times in first 30 maybe not.. Don't look now but Manaea from the A's might make two in one night.
I can’t lie, this somehow endears this team more to me at this point. It’s laughable, but lovable. Sitting tied for first for the moment while being no hit twice in first month.
I don’t any longer, but probably half my buddies make more than like 15 guys on the roster. How can you not cheer for that?
I always cheer for the A’s. They’re poor too. I see he lost his.
Padres used to cry poor now spend like a drunken sailor. I like Franmil Reyes and would much rather have him over Clevenger who won't pitch this year. He is on the perfect team cause he resembles Serrano of Major League. I need A's and Lakers for a solid day cause Padres can't hit this bum.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCRYeah, from a quick glance, the Mariners in 2019 and Padres in 2001 both got no hit twice. The Mariners was in a short window like this, not start.Quote:
Originally Posted by padre33
I can’t lie, this somehow endears this team more to me at this point. It’s laughable, but lovable. Sitting tied for first for the moment while being no hit twice in first month.
I don’t any longer, but probably half my buddies make more than like 15 guys on the roster. How can you not cheer for that?
I always cheer for the A’s. They’re poor too. I see he lost his.
Dodgers bullpen getting healthy now. Give a big Dodger welcome to Machine Gun Kelly. Things gonna be fine now.
Kelly vs Ohtani just now was sweet. Double off wall
8-1 Angels
Pollock in left is a defensive disaster.
This just in: Joe Kelly sucks balls.
The entire bullpen with the exception of Treinen = jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by Jayjami
The Royals and Dodgers were the class of baseball. Now they both suck balls. Both have shitty bullpens and under performing offense. Both 1 game over .500. Royals lost 6th straight tonight. My first live event in 18 months though so still enjoyed itQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffThe entire bullpen with the exception of Treinen = jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by Jayjami
Welp, Buxton is predictably hurt again, and with Eloy and Robert out for the Sox, the AL central is wide open. This could be a year where an 86 win Royals or Indians team sneaks in and takes it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22The Royals and Dodgers were the class of baseball. Now they both suck balls. Both have shitty bullpens and under performing offense. Both 1 game over .500. Royals lost 6th straight tonight. My first live event in 18 months though so still enjoyed itQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Yeah, thank God for the Tigers or it might be an 80 win division champ.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutWelp, Buxton is predictably hurt again, and with Eloy and Robert out for the Sox, the AL central is wide open. This could be a year where an 86 win Royals or Indians team sneaks in and takes it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
Kelly v.Trout last night was classic. The count was 3-1 and a questionable strike two was called. Did Trout get in a hissy fit? No, he just said something to the ump, and promptly hit the next pitch to left, which was misplayed for a triple. That guy is amazing.
Im a huge baseball guy but watching a league average of .233 really is abominable. Something needs to give, I thought it was fine last year with the juiced ball but you cant have every guy throw 95+ with filthy movement and not give the offense some sort of equalizer. Also advanced metrics have made the defensive positioning so good guys are routinely hitting rockets right at perfectly designed shifts that make it almost impossible for pull hitters to find gaps, never thought Id say it but might be time to abolish the shift as well
The shifts are the bigger culprit. I cheer for any guy who puts a ground ball through the non-existent shortstop, even if it’s against my team, because it seems a lost art. I always wonder if a Gwynn could still do it if he were playing today or if the entire process about where to pitch guys with the shift is too well choreographed. He’d obviously take advantage of guys who miss. Last night the Indians hit like 4 shots I immediately thought were singles up the middle. Every time the shortstop was sitting there waiting for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegalizeMeth
The ball angle is so strange. Guys are still launching it. As San always talks about, swing plane and all that. I know for the Indians it was that one off season where there was some type of international competition. Don’t know if it was WBC or Pan American games or whatever. Lindor and Jose and half the Dominican Republic came back trying to launch homers. These were guys I were sure were always going to be .310 hitters topping out at 18-20 HRs at the peak of their strength, yet they were hitting 30 the next year, but .260
I don’t follow baseball enough to understand. I watch every Indians game if I’m home or out somewhere where it’s on, but don’t follow the game broadly enough to make any conclusions about why it’s changed so much. I don’t read on it much unless it concerns the Central teams. I have no understanding of what is the mechanics of the swing and what’s the ball changes?
The averages though are unreal. Whatever they envisioned if they tinkered, I seriously doubt this is the result they wanted.
Doesn’t help when every team seems to have three pitchers throwing 98+. I find it unreal how hard these kids are throwing. Kids I never heard of. Generally I was aware of the few guys who could flirt with 100. Now it’s so common.
How could they swing it back to the offense a bit though? I’m opposed to abolishing the shift. You can’t tell someone how to play that in depth. Is the NFL going to tell a safety they can’t cross the hash mark? It’s profoundly absurd. Maybe move the mound back a foot? Or lower it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BCRThe shifts are the bigger culprit. I cheer for any guy who puts a ground ball through the non-existent shortstop, even if it’s against my team, because it seems a lost art. I always wonder if a Gwynn could still do it if he were playing today or if the entire process about where to pitch guys with the shift is too well choreographed. He’d obviously take advantage of guys who miss. Last night the Indians hit like 4 shots I immediately thought were singles up the middle. Every time the shortstop was sitting there waiting for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegalizeMeth
The ball angle is so strange. Guys are still launching it. As San always talks about, swing plane and all that. I know for the Indians it was that one off season where there was some type of international competition. Don’t know if it was WBC or Pan American games or whatever. Lindor and Jose and half the Dominican Republic came back trying to launch homers. These were guys I were sure were always going to be .310 hitters topping out at 18-20 HRs at the peak of their strength, yet they were hitting 30 the next year, but .260
I don’t follow baseball enough to understand. I watch every Indians game if I’m home or out somewhere where it’s on, but don’t follow the game broadly enough to make any conclusions about why it’s changed so much. I don’t read on it much unless it concerns the Central teams. I have no understanding of what is the mechanics of the swing and what’s the ball changes?
The averages though are unreal. Whatever they envisioned if they tinkered, I seriously doubt this is the result they wanted.
Doesn’t help when every team seems to have three pitchers throwing 98+. I find it unreal how hard these kids are throwing. Kids I never heard of. Generally I was aware of the few guys who could flirt with 100. Now it’s so common.
I’m opposed to abolishing the shift too. I’m starting to see batters attack the shift. Very few but it’s available if you abandon three outcome baseball.
and that’s the problem.... Analytics made a case for launch angle and 3 outcome baseball. Look at the Dodgers. As talented as they are athletically they can not advance runners. They leave endless base runners on base. I’ll have to look that up.
Nobody steals... I’m starting to see that pick up. Padres and any Dodgers opponent are stealing. All the small ball stuff might trend again.
I hate to say it but the mound and it’s distance to the plate was designed when the average pitcher’s height was probably 5’9”. Now 6’1” is the absolute minimum for a D1 high school prospect. Pitchers are now 6’4” and 6’6”+ is routine. Throwing sinker slider gas. You have no chance to figure out what is being thrown. The pitcher is physically closer to the plate on release and he’s throwing downhill like never before. The athletes have kinda outgrown the playing field.
Analytics and 3 outcome is the biggest problem. It’s a failure by choice. Analytics teams like the Dodgers think .233 is fine. There will be a team like the forward thinking Royals or Rays that will be forerunners back to small ball. Remember who originated the bullpen game and won a World Series. Royals.
I’m not advocating ending it. That’s like telling NBA teams to not shoot 3s. Games evolve and get smarter and telling teams they have to play stupid isn’t ever the answer even if I miss the old ways. I don’t have an answer. I still enjoy the games. I just think the shift is a larger part than the ball. I just don’t see how they’re still flying out of the park yet not making it past the shortstop. Maybe they found some way to make that happen, but it seems more likely guys taking a different plate approach and the shift are why averages are so low.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22How could they swing it back to the offense a bit though? I’m opposed to abolishing the shift. You can’t tell someone how to play that in depth. Is the NFL going to tell a safety they can’t cross the hash mark? It’s profoundly absurd. Maybe move the mound back a foot? Or lower it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
Theo Epstein was just talking about these things yesterday on Simmons podcast.
He basically says moving the mound back would be the best option, which they will be trying in the Atlantic League during their second half of the season. Moving it back by a foot.
I hope Sanlmar didn't fade Kershaw tonight.
For you fans of bad baseball... the Dodgers are playingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
They had a 13-0 lead
It’s 14-11... against the last place Angels
It’s the Dodgers and if you’re into schadenfreude ....
This could be history at Dodgers expense
yeah im curious to see if moving the mound back helps too, I just think its tough to ask guys who have been throwing from the same distance for 20 years to all of the sudden adjust but maybe its not so hard. I hate the idea of abolishing the shift too, but something has to give and Im not sure how its different from bball players not being able to camp in the lane for more than 3 seconds or hockey players not being able to cherry pick past the blue line or whatever
The mound movement is the easiest solution, but yes slightly inconvenient for people that are currently pros. Most will adjust quicker than we think. Epstein did mention they will look closely when the Atlantic league tries it in regards to player safety, if HBP's skyrocket that might end that experiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegalizeMeth
I have no issues with the shift, and it would be so hard to end it....it would be creating a new rule, there are no rules for defensive alignment except for pitcher/catcher. Teams were shifting Ted Williams 75 years ago.
How could you end it? Draw boxes or circles where every position has to start defending from?
I’m jealous you get 162 games of this type of passion and joy from Dodgers failure. I get a mere 12 games out of Michigan football, which is the only thing that brings me similar joyQuote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarFor you fans of bad baseball... the Dodgers are playingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
They had a 13-0 lead
It’s 14-11... against the last place Angels
It’s the Dodgers and if you’re into schadenfreude ....
Ohtani just threw seven innings and of 1 run ball with 10 strikeouts and then went to play right field. You will never see another player like him again
Also, this Gavin Lux kid has never proved anything yet. Would you get Puig now?
Kelenic is coming up for Mariners Mulva. He was a service time casualty but now Mariners are unexpectedly real. Buckle up.
Well, they take aged well.
The Mendoza line hitting (.200) minor leaguer, Lux, smashes me by running into his first grand slam.
So I wanted to take Ben to a Dodgers game today -- the first I'd be going to since the 2019 playoffs.
However, things have changed.
People have money to burn, since the government has been hammering out checks to everyone, and at the same time, nobody could go anywhere to spend money on things.
The stadium is at very reduced capacity.
People are eager to go out and do things.
Sellers cannot split seats. So season ticket owners of 4 seats, often sold in pairs of 2 and 2, have to sell as 4.
All of this combined to cause huge demand for games like tonight (versus a shitty Seattle team) which otherwise would have drawn collective yawns on a Wednesday night during a regular year.
Specifically it is REALLY tough to get 2 seats, since there are far more people wanting 2 seats than selling 2 seats.
A few exist on Stubhub and other sellers, but the seats are shitty and they are way marked up. I'm not paying 2018 NLCS prices to see a Wednesday night game against the Mariners. Sorry, I ain't doing it.
So it might be awhile for me.
Money that used to go to pay rent is being used for entertainment
Jarred Kelenic is already a top-five player in Mariners history.
That whole story is still the most underrated part of this season. I'm still laughing how the former executive told the truth about service time manipulation (while zooming with a fucking rotary club) and got fired for it....AND THE TEAM STILL DID IT AFTER.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
So uh....why did he get fired again?
Pujols to the Dodgers.
Sanlmar's brain may have exploded, please post to let us know you're ok.
Funny seeing the reaction in the Dodgers Facebook group I'm in.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Some are thrilled, thinking he's a huge addition.
Some think he's old and worthless and a "waste of money", not realizing he was like $450k.
This actually isn't a bad gamble, given that he can provide some power off the bench, might feel reinvigorated by the new opportunity, and is making the MLB minimum (from the Dodgers, at least). Low downside to it.
I told everyone to accept the fact that he's probably 44 years old, though. Because he probably is.
Yeah its no risk, and a smart business move. Probably will help sell a few extra tickets, maybe some jerseys. Good press, giving him a farewell tour after the Angels just dropped him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffFunny seeing the reaction in the Dodgers Facebook group I'm in.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Some are thrilled, thinking he's a huge addition.
Some think he's old and worthless and a "waste of money", not realizing he was like $450k.
This actually isn't a bad gamble, given that he can provide some power off the bench, might feel reinvigorated by the new opportunity, and is making the MLB minimum (from the Dodgers, at least). Low downside to it.
I told everyone to accept the fact that he's probably 44 years old, though. Because he probably is.
Any production is basically a bonus.
Can Pujols play short?
The Dodgers ran immaculate & pure health-wise last year. In the midst of a Pandemic, no less. Teams like the Mariners had 11 men out at once. Not the Dodgers. Zero.zero.
Well, variance has a way of smoothing shit out - doesn’t it?
Seager
I say this without malice cause I have a bet on the Todgers. I am reciting the gamblers prayer. You know the words. I promise I will never again.
Malice tomorrow.
Bauer 103 pitches. Roberts has him hitting now.
Send Bauer back out too. Why not.
Dodgers
Pujols will be getting a lot of Muncy time.. He's not very good and taking all them pitches and then swinging and missing going to get him benched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
He was killing the Angels. Unwatchable. Angels are like a new team now.
Roberts is a prince amongst retards. He’s letting Bauer call the shots. I know the bullpen is warm shit but you can’t do this. Bauer is looking for TWitter material.
Padres get hit with Covid and then reel off a few wins. This team is poised for a big run and going with the homer pick tomorrow. Padres sweep Cards -140 a good price with Weathers against their 4th best starter.
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Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Ya he was a liability.. As my Dad would say he has 2 pianos on his back. He could hit a one hopper to left and get thrown out at first.