Ok, fair enough. So answer my question, then shut it down......Quote:
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Ok, fair enough. So answer my question, then shut it down......Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
To quote DRK "Crickets"
I see him posting on other threads.
You know what is pathetic? When a grown man has a NFL QB as his avatar. What a fucking fan boy. You probably are one of those fucking dorks that wears a Packers jersey to games and plastic cheese heads. Fucking goon. Get some self respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muck FiconOk, fair enough. So answer my question, then shut it down......Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
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Originally Posted by tgullYou know what is pathetic? When a grown man has a NFL QB as his avatar. What a fucking fan boy. You probably are one of those fucking dorks that wears a Packers jersey to games and plastic cheese heads. Fucking goon. Get some self respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muck Ficon
:lol2
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The Chicago Police received and rejected 14 other freedom of information act requests. It only released the video because a local judge ordered it released.
A few days later they indict the cop on murder charges from an incident that happened over a year ago.
The state prosecutor concluded that there had been no evidence tampering when police officers erased 86 minutes of video footage from surveillance cameras of a nearby Burger King. WTF?
The mayor, police, attorneys and other yet to resign and to be indicted public officials did everything in their power to keep this homicide from becoming public.
The only thing left to fix is the jury so they find the cop not guilty and have all the black people in Chicago burn the city to the ground.
:boom
Drk star? are you okay?Quote:
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Do black lives matter or do all lives matter? Did anybody ask Justin Bonomo?
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I was once the victim of police brutality.
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Was it similar in emotion to this?Quote:
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An alcoholic plumber doesn't like my avatar? I'll make sure to change it. Looking forward to the next thread you start where you tell everyone you are leaving for good, and then return a few days later with another account.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgullYou know what is pathetic? When a grown man has a NFL QB as his avatar. What a fucking fan boy. You probably are one of those fucking dorks that wears a Packers jersey to games and plastic cheese heads. Fucking goon. Get some self respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muck Ficon
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Originally Posted by tgullYou know what is pathetic? When a grown man has a NFL QB as his avatar. What a fucking fan boy. You probably are one of those fucking dorks that wears a Packers jersey to games and plastic cheese heads. Fucking goon. Get some self respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muck Ficon
Yeah, because nothing screams "self respect" quite like a guy who unclogs peoples shit on a daily basis and then in his spare time makes his way to a forum where he clearly isn't welcome and even has to make repeated dupe accounts in an effort to try and gain ANY type of attention...all after he has repeatedly proclaimed that he wasn't coming back because nobody gave 2 shits about his presence here.
Wow, that is some self respect right there...
reminds me of a kid at the schoolyard who repeatedly gets beat up but still keeps coming back because he realizes that black eyes still mean some type of attention...
Chicago police superintendent Garry McCarthy fired... the blacks went to his former office and danced in front of it.
boy drkstar you really shut up really fast in this thread.
um, yeah, I was sharing info, and multiple people told me to SHUT IT DOWN
what are you expecting me to do, after I tell them OK?
I said a shitload already. Im not going to waste my time going back and forth with the same questions.
Read what I already typed, THEN, read this interview by Anita Alvarez, who discusses some of the things I brought up.
http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2015/...onald-shooting
some highlights:
On 'misinformation' surrounding the Laquan McDonald case
"I think the biggest question is, 'What took so long?' ... I get it. When I first saw that video, I was appalled about what I saw on that video. I understand people not understanding what takes place. But I will not apologize for doing a very thorough, meticulous investigation."
On the fact that it took 400 days to bring charges
"What we have to take into account here is that I am a career prosecutor. When you're putting cases together ... you can look at the video and think, 'Well. That's all you need. That's it.' Well, no. One video: it's a very powerful, it's a horrific piece of evidence, it's a key piece of evidence, but it's not the only piece of evidence. What's important is that we build the strongest case possible."
On what other evidence may have contributed to the 400-day period
"There were many, many witnesses that were interviewed during this investigation, and we looked at everything. So there were witnesses to be interviewed, there's forensics that need to be worked up. We were leaving no stone unturned. ... Justice is my number one goal. Justice isn't just announcing an arrest. Justice comes at the end of the trial, when the offender is being held accountable for his actions. In this particular case, we wanted to make sure that we meticulously investigated everything, built the strongest case possible so that this officer will be held accountable at the end of trial. I've been doing this a long time. I know what the defense attorney is going to argue."
Even in this investigation, there are questions for the police department that I think the city and the police department have to answer. For example, in the Laquan McDonald case, those eight officers: none of them had a Taser. The question becomes, what if they did? Would we be sitting here today talking about this? There's a question: Why don't we have audio on these–
Ponce: There is audio. There's faint audio on the tape, is there not? We've listened to it and there appears to be a faint sound of ambulances. Are we mishearing it?
Alvarez: Well, the tapes that we have do not have audio inside that squad car. And that's a question for the police department. Is it mechanical issues? What is it? I think we have to make sure that these things are in place. So I would welcome any outside independent agency that would help us improve the relationship between the community and improve the public trust of the police department. Absolutely.
On the nature of the ongoing investigation
Ponce: You have said that you've found no police misconduct, but that your investigation is still ongoing. What are you looking for?
Alvarez: I'm not at liberty to say exactly, other than that the investigation continues.
Ponce: Was it one of the things you mentioned? Some of the officers did not have Tasers and that sort of thing?
Alvarez: Right. And that may be a policy issue, not a criminal issue. But it's a question that needs to be answered. The U.S. attorney has not made his findings. When we started this joint investigation back in December of 2014 our intention was to stand up there together, to announce whatever decision I made on state charges, and he as to federal. Obviously, I said I had to get out in front of this first, and so we're still waiting for him to finish up.
On the complexity of the case
“As I explained, when you’re investigating police officer cases, it’s not the same as investigating one gang member shooting another. It isn’t. … You have to understand the use of force model. You have to understand how officers are trained. Officers do have a right to use reasonable force. They can use deadly force when appropriate. So you have to understand all of that before you look at a case. You simply can’t, on a case like this, make a split second decision by watching the video one time and determine what occurred. There were countless number of witnesses interviewed in this case, physical evidence looked for, looking for video tapes from the businesses surrounding there. There’s a lot of work done on this case—an absolute lot of work. And that adds to the year that we’ve been investigating.”
JEEZ SHUT IT DOWN.
LOL JK DUDE IDGAF
Wow what a surprise. According to every cop there, I was wrong.
Chicago Cops' Versions of Teen's Killing at Odds With Video
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/c...-teen-35593196
...........described McDonald as aggressively approaching officers while armed with a knife.....................Van Dyke told an investigator that McDonald was "swinging the knife in an aggressive, exaggerated manner" and that McDonald "raised the knife across chest" and pointed it at Van Dyke, according to one police report. Multiple officers reported that even after McDonald was down, he kept trying to get up with the knife in his hand..................."In defense of his life, Van Dyke backpedaled and fired his handgun at McDonald, to stop the attack,"
yeah, the reports are all over the place. they also reported that the shooter stated something, but he didnt have a statement at the scene.
keep in mind, not everyone of them is looking at the guy from the angle of the dashcam. Stuff looks real different if you are in front of him or to the side of him, along with having to listen to him yelling/saying stuff to them. These are sometimes a real clusterfuck. It wouldnt surprise me either if they realized "holy shit...he just plugged that dude 16 times....uh....fuck.....<I didnt see everything, but>...maybe he was lunging at him?..."
they could also be thinking about what they saw earlier and the memory is now clouded. All kind of reasons why they remember things differently. Keep in mind, there are regular witnesses there as well. Their testimony will likely be a mess too.
Whatever dude. Most people's biggest issue with this shit is that, since everybody has a video recorder on them at all times, the police report in no way ever resembles the video of the incident. It's pretty obvious why they needed a court order for them to release that video & I'm actually shocked that it didn't somehow get lost or destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
If you guys want to use your tin foil hat theories, why dont you figure out, if this was SO FUCKING AWFUL, why didnt the police just lose or delete the tape from the dashcam?....
Because they dont go around losing or deleting tape
Do you think that they ONLY ask for the video when a cop "is trying to hide something"? come on
they may not CAPTURE everything on their own tapes (lots of good and bad reasons for this)
Try the theory that, after knowing everything that went on, maybe they couldnt even figure out if the officer did something wrong. There is a good place to start. Horrific looking? To most people, yes. Illegal?....
Like I said, in a situation like this, with so many cops involved at the scene, I would guess that there are maybe 5 different stories from the cops and 3 different stories from the witnesses. Everyone is seeing something different. Not everyone is standing right there, sharing the same perspective as someone else. Its a mess. Leave it to the testimonies and let the facts come out.
Lol....once again....take your own advice. You just can't leave this thread alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
drk star just stop bro, you're out of touch here.
thanks for offsetting your own rep but you haven't stated any facts, in fact you keep blabbing about 'wait until all the facts come out' but nbd just solid discussion
thats because you are making arguments without knowing LAWS or FACTS.
Tell me what you think the cop did wrong, and WHY its wrong.
Tell me what else may have happened at the scene.
Tell me anything you know, that could cause you to feel the way you do.
Anyone just looking at a 30 second video can say the following:
There is a guy on the street, there are police in cars, he goes to the ground.
you have NOTHING except for what you just saw. You cant even state that he was shot, because you dont know. You cant see the gun firing, you cant see the bullets hit him (you can see some smoke behind him).
You "know" he was shot because that is what the media said.
you "know" a cop shot him 16 times because the media said that.
What else happened? You dont know. Dont guess. All you can do is use what you may have learned over the years and say, wow, with what they have reported (which I dont even know is 100% true until court), the cop apparently shot the guy 16 times and he's dead.
there is nothing else you can figure out on your own.
Im done, unless anyone has some good info to post, or an intelligent question that hasnt been covered before. You can also PM me.
i think what the cop did was wrong because he shot him 16 times.
what more needs to be said?
I'll give you a hint here, sysop
even the attorney's have been going through this one for a LONG time, trying to figure out what to do. Read that interview.
The top people.
yet, you, with no law degree, are going to essentially say HE'S GUILTY OF MURDER, after a tiny portion of any evidence comes out, and that is all you (and 99.999% of the public) have.
think about that.
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This is the same force that had a secret torture building, I'm sure deleting tapes isn't beneath them. The worst part of this all is having to hear Midwest accents all the time.
Didn't see this posted anywhere on here and it's not nearly as extreme compared to a lot of things but still too excessive over the alleged crime (illegally parked car).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM-5XCVQJMY
Bold sentence above = Dude, you're a fucking idiot.Quote:
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Apparently, we aren't allowed to conclude with video evidence that what we saw is true, but you can conclude that the cops were in the right?
How do you know so much idiot?
BTW, I don't think that was smoke. It was more than likely bullets exiting the body and busting the concrete. Since you're such a mong, I'll explain it to you. Smoke comes from something burning. The cloud was concrete powder from the bullet exiting the body.
That's besides the point, apparently we aren't allowed to conclude with video evidence that the "smoke" is due to shots. You know, because "smoke" just randomly starts appearing behind a dead bodies all the time while cops are pointing guns at them. That's one hell of a magic trick.
DESTROYED.
drk star nap this thread out man. you're getting wrecked.
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"A police officer may not seize an unarmed, non dangerous suspect by shooting him dead...however...Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force."
— Justice Byron White, Tennessee v. Garner[3]
Laquan McDonald was burglar armed with a knife. He fled the police, resisting arrest while threatening pursuing officers with said knife. He was an immediate threat to the officers and public safety. The officers had an immediate sworn duty to stop the threat and arrest the offender. The officers had no duty to retreat, and no duty to meet Laquan McDonald's threat of deadly force with lesser force. Case closed.
your version of wrecked seems to differ from mine (thanks to silly things called LAWS), but your opinion is noted
Im going to nap it out though. There is too much ignorance on your part, and I just dont have the fucks to give any more. Well ran dry.
EDIT: This will go to a bench trial somewhere outside of Chicago (jury pool there is tainted), and he will get a slap on the wrist or be found not guilty. Jesse and Phleger will rile up everyone, try to shakedown the businesses again like they did on Black Friday (undercovers allegedly have them on tape taking $$$$ to not block doors) and the city will burn. Prediction.
see you next week.Quote:
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Originally Posted by FR1GHTBold sentence above = Dude, you're a fucking idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
Apparently, we aren't allowed to conclude with video evidence that what we saw is true, but you can conclude that the cops were in the right?
How do you know so much idiot?
BTW, I don't think that was smoke. It was more than likely bullets exiting the body and busting the concrete. Since you're such a mong, I'll explain it to you. Smoke comes from something burning. The cloud was concrete powder from the bullet exiting the body.
That's besides the point, apparently we aren't allowed to conclude with video evidence that the "smoke" is due to shots. You know, because "smoke" just randomly starts appearing behind a dead bodies all the time while cops are pointing guns at them. That's one hell of a magic trick.
DESTROYED.
my rep was supposed to be green
Since we all have it so wrong what are you willing to put money on?Quote:
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He is not going to do any time at all?
And what is the over under of how many cops/Chicago officials lose their job?