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Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe
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Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe
I just have to point out that the 25k in BTC that Micon cashed out to pay his fine is worth around 45k at the moment.
but the jokes on the gov't.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
His 25k fine only cost him a year of running Seals, which he enjoyed to do.
So Micon got 2 years probation whereupon he intends to go back to Antigua to take job with newspaper in technology field. Cool story.
And so begins the end of the Social-Media-Church-Mouse phase...with a retweet from his past:
New York Times Article
Defense attorney Richard Schonfeld told the judge Micon planned to complete his probation in Las Vegas and move with his family to Antigua to take a job in the technology office of a newspaper there.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...r-bitcoin.html
Penny for the Guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forum WarsAnd so begins the end of the Social-Media-Church-Mouse phase...with a retweet from his past:
Just noticed he tweeted this out on Guy Fawkes Day. Well played.
He actually meant it for Halloween, but you know Micon.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarPenny for the Guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forum WarsAnd so begins the end of the Social-Media-Church-Mouse phase...with a retweet from his past:
Just noticed he tweeted this out on Guy Fawkes Day. Well played.
And the cost of the lawyers, and his computers. And his likely participation in SWCPoker payouts given his diminished public representation of the site until his probation is completed.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdogbut the jokes on the gov't.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
His 25k fine only cost him a year of running Seals, which he enjoyed to do.
Overall, a lot more than $25k.
Yea, apparently John Gumption was promoted to editor-in-chief out there and brought on MiconQuote:
Originally Posted by ActionDave
The terms of Mr. Micon's probation are now listed in the publicly available minutes of his court case:
Minutes
11/03/2015 9:30 AM
- Mr. Schonfeld advised the Deft. had a check made out to District Court in the amount of $25,000.00 to pay his fine. Further, Mr. Schonfeld requested certain conditions in the Pre-Sentence Investigation Report either be removed or corrected. Mr. Schonfeld argued for 2 years for probation instead of 3. Mr. Kern requested the items Deft. was to forfeit be made a condition of the sentence. Further, Mr. Kern stated no recommendation. DEFT. MICON ADJUDGED GUILTY of OPERATING AN UNLICENSED INTERACTIVE GAMING SYSTEM (F).COURT ORDERED, in addition to the $25.00 Administrative Assessment fee, a $150.00 DNA Analysis fee including testing to determine genetic markers, $25,000.00 Fine, and $3.00 DNA Collection fee, Deft. SENTENCED to a MINIMUM of TWELVE (12) MONTHS and a MAXIMUM of THIRTY (30) MONTHS in the Nevada Department of Corrections (NDC), SUSPENDED; placed on PROBATION for an indeterminate period not to exceed TWO (2) YEARS. General Terms and Conditions of Probation: 1. Reporting: You are to report in person to the Division of Parole and Probation as instructed by the Division or its agent. You are required to submit a written report each month on forms supplied by the Division. This report shall be true and correct in all respects. 2. Residence: You shall not change your place of residence without first obtaining permission from the Division of Parole and Probation, in each instance. 3. Intoxicants: You shall not consume any alcoholic beverages to excess. Upon order of the Division of Parole and Probation or its agent, you shall submit to a medically recognized test for blood/breath alcohol content. Test results of .08 blood alcohol content or higher shall be sufficient proof of excess. 4. Controlled Substances: You shall not use, purchase or possess any illegal drugs, or any prescription drugs, unless first prescribed by a licensed medical professional; that shall include a valid medical marijuana card, which is in compliance with State law and has been prescribed by a licensed medical physician. You shall immediately notify the Division of Parole and Probation of any prescription received. You shall submit to drug testing as required by the Division or its agent. 5. Weapons: You shall not possess, have access to, or have under your control, any type of weapon. 6. Search: You shall submit your person, property, place of residence, vehicle or areas under your control to search including electronic surveillance or monitoring of your location, at any time, with or without a search warrant or warrant of arrest, for evidence of a crime or violation of probation by the Division of Parole and Probation or its agent. 7. Associates: You must have prior approval by the Division of Parole and Probation to associate with any person convicted of a felony, or any person on probation or parole supervision. You shall not have any contact with persons confined in a correctional institution unless specific written permission has been granted by the Division and the correctional institution. 8. Directives and Conduct: You shall follow the directives of the Division of Parole and Probation and your conduct shall justify the opportunity granted to you by this community supervision. 9. Laws: You shall comply with all municipal, county, state, and federal laws and ordinances. 10. Out-of-State Travel: You shall not leave the state without first obtaining written permission from the Division of Parole and Probation. 11. Employment/Program: You shall seek and maintain legal employment, or maintain a program approved by the Division of Parole and Probation and not change such employment or program without first obtaining permission. All terminations of employment or program shall be immediately reported to the Division. Special Conditions: 1. Deft. shall not operate interactive gaming as defined by Chapter 463 of the Nevada Revised Statutes, either personally or through employees or agents for that purpose. 2. Deft. shall pay a fine in the amount of Twenty Five Thousand Dollars ($25,000). 3. Deft. shall forfeit all property or interest in any property seized and/or impounded in connection with this case, including: i. Nine Hundred Dollars ($900) in U.S. Currency; ii. 3.0996 Bitcoin; iii. One desktop PC; iv. One Galaxy Note 3 cellular phone; v. One HP laptop Ultra Book with power cord; vi. One black Lenovo IdeaPad SlO 3T with power cord; vii. One Dell laptop, model #M4700 with power cord; viii. One IBM T6OP Think Pad with power cord; ix. One Apple MacBook Air with power cord; and x. One Dell Adamo 13 Laptop with power cord. 4. Deft. shall pay all fees and costs imposed by the Court. 5. Complete impulse control evaluation and complete any recommended counseling; 6. Comply with an imposed curfew, as deemed necessary by Parole & Probation; 7. Maintain/obtain full time employment, if working part-time complete 16 hours of community service each month. COURT FURTHER ORDERED, the property listed in Special Condition number three ADJUDICATED FORFEITED. COURT ORDERED, Deft. to report to P & P within 48 hours of sentencing. BOND, if any, EXONERATED. NIC CLERK'S NOTE: Minute Order amended to include the Courts adjudication. Copy of the minute order placed in Clerk's Attorney Folders of the Attorney General's Office and Richard Schonfeld. clm 11-10-15
4. Controlled Substances: You shall not use, purchase or possess any illegal drugs, or any prescription drugs, unless first prescribed by a licensed medical professional; that shall include a valid medical marijuana card, which is in compliance with State law and has been prescribed by a licensed medical physician. You shall immediately notify the Division of Parole and Probation of any prescription received. You shall submit to drug testing as required by the Division or its agent.
Lol at how many laptops he had.
micon being forced to pay to have his DNA collected, analyzed, and archived by the government is easily the hoffest moment so far.
That is a lot of computers they seized.
He has to maintain full time employment or if part time work community service so that is obviously why he has this stooge job of being the being a Loss Prevention manager for the Drones place.
Micon was lucky. His expensive representation saved him from the boys in the pen. Those big black guys like them some new/fresh skinny dudes to break in properly so Micon would have been their type.
Prolly true. State prison for white collar crims is not like the country club farms that the Feds have.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
Yeah, he's not going to like that. But still he's got to be ready to suck Schonfeld's Jew dick for keeping him out of prison and minimizing that fine down to a fraction of what he made running Seals.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
The drug testing thing would be a KILLER for him if Nevada didn't have medical marijuana. However, all he has to do is get a medical marijuana card (if he doesn't have one already), and he will be exempt.
Interesting how he can't own any firearms, despite his crime being nonviolent. He does have at least one gun, and I assume he will have to give that up, unless he's an idiot and wants to keep it around and risk his probation (which I doubt he will).
He isn't allowed to associate with felons. This might be something concerning to him, since many poker players and bitcoin enthusiasts have shady pasts.
The employment thing is exactly what we thought -- that he got Crazy Mike to give him a "cover job" so he could claim employment and still "not work for the man", which has always been very important to him.
It says something about an "imposed curfew", but does not state what that curfew would be. But it's possible that all-night gambling benders will no longer be possible, which may actually help him. Brandon used to tell stories about going out with Micon all night and gambling with him.
He can't leave Nevada without permission. This probably won't be a big deal to him, as he rarely traveled outside of Vegas in the years he lived there. I remember expressing to him how surprised I was that he didn't visit California very often, given all of the things to see there, and its proximity to Vegas.
He has to submit to warrantless searches at the government's discretion. He has to hate that, too, but it's possible they won't do this without reason. Still, he's going to have to constantly be concerned about what's on his computer and what he keeps in his house. I do know someone (a woman in her 50s, not a poker player) who had a DUI conviction and had her apartment recently spot-searched for alcohol! So this does happen.
Notice that the probation says nothing about gambling, aside from not running an online gaming site. Many here theorized that he would be restricted from casinos, but I never believed that. Once we saw him at WSOP events this year, I knew that this couldn't have been a term, because he wouldn't have before-the-fact violated it.
The probation also does NOT say anything about social media and criticizing the government. I thought that it might, such as restricting "inflammatory speech about the government or law enforcement" during those 2 years. But nothing about that at all.
i wonder if the medical marijuana issue is going to get hamstrung by this being a felony case; pot isnt federally legal anywhere.
The probation terms say that he can use it medically if he has a valid card to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I haven't read the thread, just this post, but if he has a felony and does not currently have a card he will not be able to get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffThe probation terms say that he can use it medically if he has a valid card to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Really? Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369I haven't read the thread, just this post, but if he has a felony and does not currently have a card he will not be able to get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I believe he has a felony at the moment, but it will be reduced to a gross misdemeanor at the successful completion of probation.
So if he doesn't have one yet, he might be fucked. I'm guessing he has one, though.
Yeah, felony conviction in the past 10 years = no card. When you apply for the first time you have to submit all of your info and prints for a state background check. Even if he has one he has to renew each year, and he would most likely be denied then as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffReally? Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
I believe he has a felony at the moment, but it will be reduced to a gross misdemeanor at the successful completion of probation.
So if he doesn't have one yet, he might be fucked. I'm guessing he has one, though.
Actually I might be mistaken on this one. They used to be much stricter on this issue and wouldn't issue a card to any felony conviction of 10 years or less. Looks like they might have backed off that and only made it felony convictions for distributing a controlled substance. It is a medicine in the states eyes, so I guess this would be equivalent to not allowing a felon to obtain pain killers legally.
http://dpbh.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/dpb...ogramFacts.pdf
Itd be a shame if somehow, police checked on him and he had weed in his possession, before he gets his card.
He's known the general probation terms for months, even though they weren't made official until November.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
Therefore, I'm sure he already took the precaution to get a medical marijuana card.
Also, he wasn't a convicted felon prior to November 3, so he could have obtained one before that point anyway, even if it's not available to convicted felons.
So I think he will still be able to smoke pot to his heart's content.
I think the most unpleasant things to him will be:
- Having to consent to searches at any time for any reason
- Having to be part of a DNA database (I wouldn't give a shit about this, but he is so anti-government that he has to hate this)
- Having to maintain employment, or at least having to maintain the appearance of doing so
- No guns
- Having to watch who he associates with, and that these people don't have a felony record
- Needing permission to leave Nevada
- The curfew thing if it actually happens
Also, he's made just one tweet in the 12 days since he was given probation.
He made 14,500 tweets between June 2008 and late April 2015 -- a clip of about 6 tweets per day on average.
So obviously he feels uncomfortable about social media now, and we may not hear much from him until his probation is up.
Lol @ 14,000 tweets. Did he tweet about when he took a dump?
5. Complete impulse control evaluation and complete any recommended counseling;
Hmmm, how'd this one come into being?
There are two sections of Micon's probation: "General Terms" (which all parolees assumedly receive) and "Special Terms". Since the "Impulse Control Evaluation/Counselling" condition was listed under the special terms section, it would follow that the prosecutor likely saw something in the reports/testimony that made him think Micon doesn't think too much about his actions and their consequences on others.
Like, maybe starting a new Nevada-facing bitcoin website in Antigua WHILE you're being investigated for the original site you were an owner of? Come to think of it - that might be a text book definition of Impulse Control disorder --- not worrying about the consequences to self or family for current actions.
I'm pretty sure felons can have their MMJ card, they just can't be involved on the industry side of things with a felony conviction... At least that is how AZ and CO are.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369I haven't read the thread, just this post, but if he has a felony and does not currently have a card he will not be able to get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Honestly state laws are soooo diverse at this point, anything that flies in one state cant be counted on in another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avon BarksdaleI'm pretty sure felons can have their MMJ card, they just can't be involved on the industry side of things with a felony conviction... At least that is how AZ and CO are.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Yeah, just seems crazy that a felon couldn't get access to his choice of medicine... But I'm sure that same felon could go into any pain clinic and walk away with a script for opiates no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineHonestly state laws are soooo diverse at this point, anything that flies in one state cant be counted on in another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avon Barksdale
Brother do you believe that Dan Druff was good at kickball?Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
Brothers I meant to quote this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI don't understand any of the above, and I don't have my badguy-to-English translator handy.Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
But I really did own at kickball as a kid, and was one of the best ones on the team every time we played.
I wasn't a bad athlete. I was better at some sports than others, and kickball was actually one of my best.
I did wish I was a little better at baseball, but it just wasn't in the cards for me.
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I shouldn’t have to be the one to keep you on task. Have you emailed Mr Badguy?Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyPipesBrothers I meant to quote this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Dan Druff nickname was Todd is Odd?
You commented that few interact directly with you. In that spirit I am holding you accountable.
NickyPipes: The guys a ghost as far as I know pal send him my number
This is not a proper response. “Did you email him (using the fine Direct Messaging feature found in the PFA Forum’s advance suite of tools?
We will revisit this during your annual performance review. You are on the cusp of greatness - don’t fumble the bag
Pipes, I’m going to need you to cc: me on the direct message (email) to Mr Badguy during your probationary period. I’m sorry it has come to this.
My name will also offer some measure of credibility given you are a random as far as he is concerned.
The Bad Guy knows exactly who Nicky Pipes is. He knows me in real life.
The Bad Guy may make it his business to be aware of the important movers and shakers out there but I’ll still wager he isn’t telepathic.
I know you are busy with your multiple enterprises. Empower me to act on your behalf. Construct your formal offer and I shall deliver it in your stead
San, why did Badguy disappear? I missed it