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This whole conversation kind of assumes Putin is actually willing to accede to some sort of reasonable peace plan. Now I dont have any information one way or another, but I dont think any of you do either and are really kind of baking this in with no real insight. Last time I checked, Putin's idea of a peace treaty is Ukraine giving up a bunch of land Russia hasn't even taken, and then promising to demilitarize no matter what Russia does. Which seems like he isn't really serious.
PUTIN'S READY FOR PEACE, has always wanted peace. He's very articulate, democraticaly elected, keeps his word, a perfect ally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1po9vPSf7F0
Oh yea lets have a new cold war, constant nuclear threats etc so those pentagon grifters can get paid.
Fuck that.
Putin saying Russia is open to dialogue doesn't actually mean Russia is open to dialogue.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrkoPUTIN'S READY FOR PEACE, has always wanted peace. He's very articulate, democraticaly elected, keeps his word, a perfect ally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1po9vPSf7F0
Oh yea lets have a new cold war, constant nuclear threats etc so those pentagon grifters can get paid.
Fuck that.
Trump can scapegoat Zelensky all he wants. But at some point he is going to have to show receipts there is actual productive dialogue with Russia about reasonable terms to end the war, or it is all Kabuki theatre.
Good post. I agree. Clearly no one is ever giving up nuclear weapons again in the future. No agreement Putin makes is worth anything. He is just going to immediately break it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KalamPutin saying Russia is open to dialogue doesn't actually mean Russia is open to dialogue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orko
Trump can scapegoat Zelensky all he wants. But at some point he is going to have to show receipts there is actual productive dialogue with Russia about reasonable terms to end the war, or it is all Kabuki theatre.
That said, before we get ourselves into this shit each time, it is really kind of simple. Would you send your kid to save Ukraine? I imagine it's a fuck no. Do you want your kid to be paying for it 30 years from now? I assume that's a no. I feel for them, but not so much so that I want to keep spending like we did for 20 years in the middle east and start dealing with our infrastructure fucked with in the technical ways that Russia is capable of. Some people are just born in the wrong area of the world, and it is unfortunate. Us pumping them full of false hope and BS is really bad policy also. Many countries would be better off if they never met us. Throughout history you see this reoccurring theme of the world powers always returning to consolidating their sphere of influence. And in a nuclear world, what can you really do? It is Russia. Fighting wars with them requires either millions of bodies or a blank check forever.
Putin cheerleading is gross. That scene the other day was embarrassing. But so many people that lean left view him as the king of all the misinformation, and he still is, and I hate that, but that doesn't mean he is actually going to start a war and start invading Western Europe. It doesn't mean his replacement will be better. We don't run well with regime change. Maybe he does invade others, and I am wrong? I don't think he will go that far, in which case, there isn't much to be done. We will face the same situation in Taiwan at some point. I can understand Europe being really uncomfortable with the situation though with how cozy Trump is with him.
It is a bully situation. We are the biggest bully, but that bully over there fighting the neighbor a world away might join with China and form a real bully that we don't have the means or resolve to deal with. That is a way more likely than him invading Britain or France by a long way imo. He knows we have to get involved then. But I wouldn't want to be in eastern europe in a fomer USSR country or Poland. That is greyer, but I think Russia will have to rebuild for a good while after this shit and hopefully we at least bought some time for our many billions. That Putin is scum and that we can't do much about Ukraine to me both seem pretty true.
Listen to what Zelensky says and his body language. He clearly wants this.
https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1896267384153161880
Trump's such a gullible dolt, one visit from Starmer or Macron he'll sign on to this.
It's like whoever he met with last is who he agrees with.
If there ever was a time to pull out of NATO it's now.
AP Headline
Ukraine's Zelenskyy says end of war with Russia is 'very, very far away'
Why does the media treat Zelensky as if he's knowledgable about war, he's a shitty ass comedian that's it.
Fuck Zelensky and every single one of his enablers and supporters. Esp these stupid liberals who are now war hawks.
Zelenskyy and his oligarchs have been getting rich off the war and don’t want the gravy train to stop. Consequently, the war will go on.
Your cynicism is well meaning butQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine
If the Brits send troops Trump will use that opportunity to begin NATO exit.
Something like this.
https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1896637340363407844
I got a question, name something Putin has done that makes you dislike him?
I'll answer
Nothing.
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This all started when oligarch Khorokovsky got arressted and sent to prison and the Russian oil company he stole was returned to the Russian govt.
This pissed off Khordovsky's people who happen to control the media so they've been hitting us with anti Putin propaganda ever since.
Great speech to the EU by Jeffrey Sachs:
https://youtu.be/u4c-YRPXDoM
So in the US Neocons and Zelensky, Boris Johnson pushing this war.
What about in Russia?
Check out Russia's top warmonger. Like Zelensky he will say anything to keep the war going.
Urging Russians to go die on the battlefield etc Yes he is Jewish (not that it matters)and used to live in the USA.
MUST WATCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKgc9pLTDP8
He claims to be preparing the world for the second coming of Jesus Christ, give me a break.
You know who else is Jewish? The Prime Minister of Russia, second in charge behind Putin and he's also as warmonger.
Mikhail Mishustin
This fucking Trump, gives half of India green cards and now this.
This is a strange move
Why is Trump helping Zelensky solve his man power shortage?
https://x.com/i/trending/1897668878106493083
He's kicking out the only refugees who can credibly claim they fear deasth if they go home.
Yea that's about right.
We're not even 2 months in, this is going to be a long 4 years.
Mishustin is not Jewish, neither is Putin through his mother or whatever other claims people make up for whatever weird reason. The POLtard crowd has gotten increasingly pathetic at this over the last decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrkoSo in the US Neocons and Zelensky, Boris Johnson pushing this war.
What about in Russia?
Check out Russia's top warmonger. Like Zelensky he will say anything to keep the war going.
Urging Russians to go die on the battlefield etc Yes he is Jewish (not that it matters)and used to live in the USA.
MUST WATCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKgc9pLTDP8
He claims to be preparing the world for the second coming of Jesus Christ, give me a break.
You know who else is Jewish? The Prime Minister of Russia, second in charge behind Putin and he's also as warmonger.
Mikhail Mishustin
BYE, BYE!
https://i.imgflip.com/9aaml8.jpg
what happened, what did i miss? i don't see anything new happening over Ukraine?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
Russia seizes 100s of Ukrainian troops and labels them 'terrorists' as Putin dons military fatigues
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ceasefire.html
Putin has seized control of Kursk.
He will soon have complete control of Ukraine.
Zelenskyy only decision will be which country he can get asylum in.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/03...1816127123.jpg
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/6...2201830720.jpg
So Ukraine could've had a deal to end this war 2 weeks after it began and instead held out for 3+ years and countless lives lost for a much worse deal? Genius move!
https://x.com/liz_churchill10/status...26258752913896
Hey guys, Trump is now claiming when he said he would end the war on his first day was just said in jest. What a leader
You wanted the war to have ended sooner? Because I don't remember you having ever said anything about that. Maybe you did?Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.
I give Trump all the credit in doing his best to end the war. Its a difficult and complicated mess that was created for him to try and solve. The thing is taking its due course and will be over soon.
What will you do then? Criticize him for ending it too soon or not soon enough? For some, there is nothing Trump can do that they agree with even if disagreeing with him makes you somewhat insane.
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Originally Posted by country978You wanted the war to have ended sooner? Because I don't remember you having ever said anything about that. Maybe you did?Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.
I give Trump all the credit in doing his best to end the war. Its a difficult and complicated mess that was created for him to try and solve. The thing is taking its due course and will be over soon.
What will you do then? Criticize him for ending it too soon or not soon enough? For some, there is nothing Trump can do that they agree with even if disagreeing with him makes you somewhat insane.
So holding him accountable to such a ridiculous statement like he would end the war on his first day is bad? It's snake oil salesman talk, and you FAGATS ate it up without a second thought.
I never took that statement in the literal sense; only that he would make best efforts, which he has. He promised to end it and that is what he is doing. I'm not saying you holding him to the 24 hour thing is bad but I would say that your motives for doing so are all politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.Quote:
Originally Posted by country978
So holding him accountable to such a ridiculous statement like he would end the war on his first day is bad? It's snake oil salesman talk, and you FAGATS ate it up without a second thought.
Are you going to be happy when its over? Will Trump be deserving of some credit then?
Patrick Lancaster lands himself on the Tucker Carlson Show... dropping truth bombs... i though for sure @Limitles was gonna get Patrick's YT channel taken down...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NObi_e3yf3U
You better watch the first minute and a half, wow.
https://youtu.be/KmIr5HyRwE0?si=jSZKbntHwTCwV7hU
So when Zelensky isn't sending thugs to tackle you in the street and sending you to die in a unwinnable war he's doing that.
So Zelensky might be a satanist, I don't think so but he did appoint that spirit cooking lady to rebuild the schools
. How the hell can the Ukrainian Rada vote to ban the largest Chrstian church in Ukraine?
A church that used to have 12,000 parishes.
If true
Imo the odds of Trump ending the war have plummeted to zero and the odds of Congress or DOGE defunding Ukraine are even lower.
I always thought it was strange that on top of funding the war, the US govt was funding the salaries of the entire Ukranian govt and paying stimulus to prop up some Ukranian small businesses.
Zelensky had a clever trick to cover up what he was doing. Ukraine has a policy of not conscripting 18 to 25 y.o. you know so moving forward there will be some ukranians to reproduce.
Lindsey Graham w the help of the MSM made a big stink about Ukraine not conscripting them. The media reported Zelensky was standing firm in his refusal to conscript them.
Go watch those videos of forced conscription, read the comments I bet Ukraine ran out of 18-25 yo's a long time ago. Oddly enough Graham doesn't merntion it anymore.
I'm pretty sure there's a shitload of women conscripted into frontline combat.
what? this "war" is still going? Kiev looks just fine to me for a real war... details.
Ukraine bombards Moscow with drones in retaliation of Russia's bombardment of drones the other day after Ukraine tried to take out Putin in his helicopter with drones, shit is getting real... real fast... Moscow forced to close all airports...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZl_SfyC6Po
It is actually pretty wild how much of a militarily incompetent and weak paper tiger Russia really is. All Putin has at the point is nuclear blackmail. Even with our castaway weapons from 20 years ago, if Ukraine wasn't being held back so tightly Moscow would probably be occupied by Ukraine right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar
Oh, literally the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by KalamIt is actually pretty wild how much of a militarily incompetent and weak paper tiger Russia really is. All Putin has at the point is nuclear blackmail. Even with our castaway weapons from 20 years ago, if Ukraine wasn't being held back so tightly Moscow would probably be occupied by Ukraine right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar
Russia can obliterate Ukraine if they wanted to, its a targeted war being that....they dont want WW3
Make no mistake there are powerful forces working to bring NATO into the war. This douchebag in Germany is going send Taurus missiles.
We have to face the possibility Starmer Zelensky and Macron are gay lovers. They certainly act like it.
Zelenskly wants the ability to kill Russian civilians en mass and he's about to get it..
All those stories about Putin attacking rivals and foes are clearly bullshit. Not once has Russia tried to decapitate the snake, it's absurd.
Look at the dupers delight on his face as he says the one and only thing he knows will keep the war going until the last Ukranian. In that time he will have many chances to get NATO nvolved.
Thousands of troops killed daily and he can barely conceal his excitement.
https://x.com/maria_drutska/status/1924554710356242492
The one thing he hates is being asked why he's refuses to end the war. Since there isn't a reasonable answer he's just going to declare he can't because of the constitution.
He's not going to give up the dream of killing off all the white christians, draining their treasuries and diverting all their resources to death and life long trauma in the process.
Right on cue, our Pres. Bozo the Clown declares Putin is playing w fire and all this and that. Writing checks his ass can't cash.
Why isn't this war over with by now? Instead its escalating with no end in sight. A disaster worse than Iraq and Viet Nam and whatever other disasters we've inflicted on ourselves forever.
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1944818663678239026
KalamQuote:
Originally Posted by gutOh, literally the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalam
Russia can obliterate Ukraine if they wanted to, its a targeted war being that....they dont want WW3
Another of the best and brightest here at PFA
Grim
Quote:
Originally Posted by country978
I give Trump all the credit in doing his best to end the war. Its a difficult and complicated mess that was created for him to try and solve. The thing is taking its due course and will be over soon.
Yes Ukraine is being plunderedd and destroyed hardcore. There's all kinds of new weapons going to Ukraine.
Zelelrnsky Trump Kellog and that NATO werirdo are all chummy, it's dfisgusting.
The Ukrainian media's covereing the Epstein debacle with an interesting spin.
They'rte covering it like Trump shut down all the conspiracy theorists like Tucker Carlson by revealing there's no client list.
How excitited is Zelensky about all these new weapons? I'll put it like this, Ukraines Muslim defense minister is being replaced by a Jeewish defense minister.
Since there's only 5 Jews in Ukraine and they are already in leadership positions within the Zelensky regime.
In order to keep it that way ere's how the latest reshuffle went down. Ukraine's current prime minister is up to his ears in corruption allegations.h
He's been outing whistleblowers and if someone is Jewish and about to be charged w corruption. Right before their arrest they and their family
take a vacation and never come back. He's always the one who approves their vacation. While everyone else is conscripted.
So he submits his resignation or is forced out, media makes it seems Zelensky is taking on corruption.
Zelensky appoint a new PM, some Jewess of course. She's the one privatizing everything
The notoriously corrupt PM of the last 5 years is finally gone! TY Jesus!