I hope you're just really, really baked, cause if not, this is just sheer stupidity.
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Chaps getting destroyed
Chaps probably knows he was mistaken, but at this point it's too embarrassing to concede the point.
It doesn't have to be, though. Look at the sort of people who always stubbornly cling to their arguments and never admit they're wrong. They're complete morons. You don't want to be that guy.
There are many fine examples in this very thread.
TIME has been putting out very non-specific and intentionally misleading denials of Trump's claims.
You think that's just an accident?
Why won't they just specify EXACTLY what was and wasn't said on that call?
Now that Trump has called them out, why can't they simply respond and definitively state what occurred on that phone call?
So now you're hanging your hat on the word "probably"? LOL
Actually, I believe they either used that word or said something to heavily imply it. Remember, the person from TIME calling Trump was attempting to kiss his ass and get his cooperation for the cover of their shitty magazine. So they likely knew he was already selected as person of the year (barring a highly unlikely scenario of someone doing something incredibly impactful in the next few weeks, like curing cancer), and they wanted to give him assurance that this phone call wasn't wasting his time based upon what MIGHT happen.
So, yes, it's far more plausible that they called Trump and said something like, "President Trump, I'm calling from TIME Magazine. We are pleased to inform you that we are probably going to feature you as our person of the year, and would love a few moments of your time for a photo shoot once that selection is confirmed."
Then Trump told them to stuff it, and tried to humiliate them on Twitter.
Then, instead of just owning up to this harmless phone call, TIME tried to fight back with him by implying he was lying, without specifying what he was lying about or where he was incorrect.
Look, I get that a lot of you hate Trump.
I don't love him, either. I didn't support him in the primary, and I hated the fact that America's choice was between him and Hillary.
However, too many of you want to cast him as the wrong party in EVERY situation, and the world simply doesn't work like that.
I will even concede that Trump shouldn't have been posturing about his rejection of TIME, but their response should have been to point out how he was wasting his important time with this nonsense (as he frequently does), not to try to make it look like his account of the situation was wrong.
I couldn't think of anything less important than this topic.
Once again Trump wins having us debate this nonsense instead of real stuff, like the fraudulent tax cut for the super rich bill going through.
Man.... Druff really hates being wrong...lol
Druff, this is a very simple argument. Trump is saying they called him and said he's probably going to be Person of the Year. Time simply disputes that they told him that as their policy is they don't announce who won until a later date. Given Trumps history, it makes a whole lot more sense for them to have called to request the interview, and he wouldnt grant it because they wouldn't commit to him being the winner. He then made a typical "beat them to the punch" tweet, just like he did when all if the CEO's decided to quit the Business Advisory Committee. I really don't get the defense of Trump here other than to make a mountain out of a molehill and just to defend for the sake of defending.
oh sure i got carried away with my simple view on impeachment. these guys say impeach trump, wanting him out. i just look at that and zero in on the hypocricy since clinton didn't get shitcanned.
but, as is typical with the new left, instead of saying hey chappy its more complicated than that, impeachment is just the process. they go lol trumptard, because muh labels and muh inner anger are common among a lot of these types.
and yes vegas, i was obv baked to the gills, still am. just got done 13 overnighters in a row and enjoying a few nights off.
Read the bolded part you wrote again.
Time says that it's not their policy to ANNOUNCE who won until a later date. That is correct. They have not ANNOUNCED anything. They also did not ANNOUNCE anything to Trump.
Telling someone, "You're probably going to be Person of the Year, and we are requesting your cooperation if that happens" is not ANNOUNCING anything.
It is giving the likely winner a heads-up, without committing to anything.
Do you really think TIME hadn't already selected Trump at that point, barring a last-minute miracle of some sort (again, like a guy curing cancer)?
Obviously they were trying to give him the heads up because he was indeed PROBABLY person of the year, in order to get him to agree to a photo shoot when it likely happens.
Then it all blew up, and instead of just owning up to what really happened, they are engaging in lame double-speak to try to make him look like a liar.
What do you think happened?
trump's mistake in this is thinking that being named time's man of the year is meant as an honor, when it's not. it just means you were the most significant
hitler (seriously) was time's man of the year
"Mr President, Time Magazine is requesting an interview and photo op with you. You are a finalist for Person of the Year"
"Did I win? I mean, trust me, if anyone should win it should be me.. biggest inauguration in history... jobs, lots of jobs, stock market, highest it's ever been... believe me, everybody thinks I should win, it's not even a question. I have to win, bigly, trust me... So, did I win?"
"They won't say Mr. President "
"I have to win... who could beat me?... trust me... there's no one... they're all losers... just tell them to let us know it's me... we'll throw a big party, it will be great, believe me. Biggest party, nest party ever, they'll get big ratings. BIG! Just tell them that..."
"They say they can't disclose the winner yet Mr. President"
"Ok... Fuck them... tell them we're not doing it. Let them have their stupid competition... No body cares about their stupid magazine anymore anyway... terrible ratings. Terrible!! They're dead... Where's my phone? I need to Tweet about this"
Something like that.
Shame on you guys for making chaps cry.
Decided to look at TIME person of the year history just now. Extremely biased towards Americans and nearly every USA president gets it, often more than once. Interestingly the only person to ever get it twice in a row from what I can see is Richard Nixon... Interesting company for Trump if he gets it again which I would expect. I think there is also outside chance "internet trolls" win.
He won it a few years ago and very rarely if at all does a non american win it twice. I was serious about internet trolls btw. I'd say there is 5-10% chance TIME labels them as person of the year.
https://www.oddschecker.com/novelty/...he-year/winner
Macron betting favourite with Trump and #metoo close behind.
Trump will lose his shit if he loses to either of those two.
Quite possible Trump self sabotaging so he has excuse if he loses. Will simple say TIME is pissed off at him.
Youre basically jewdonk without the cussing right now. I get that this threads about LOLpolitics and everything but sometimes the topic has nothing to do with politics. Sometimes its just douchebags engaging in douchebag behavior.
Chaps coming back with ohhhh and what about clinton broz? Hey dumbfuck some of us were in gradeschool when that happened. Why the fuck would we care unless we were 12 year old druff?
But you druff... youre supposed to be smart, all due respect to chaps. Oh youll concede a couple of points? How nice. Get off the rights nuts. Not a good look for you.
todge blake is basically jewdonk except he has a discover card
and now its real people
are we good here cuz i feel like jim fin'd it
This would make a great SNL sketch, but isn't likely to have been the way the conversation went.
TIME won't even disclose what was said on the call! Why do you think that is?
You are giving TIME waaaaaaaaay too much credit regarding their integrity regarding not tipping off the winner.
If TIME feels that a custom photo shoot will sell more magazines, of course they are going to tip the winner off in advance that he either won or is very likely to win.
Why is it so hard to believe that TIME called Trump, told him he was probably going to be person of the year, and wanted to set up a photo shoot?
Some form of that is the most likely scenario regarding what happened.
They are just trying to save face now that Trump publicly rejected them.
Is this an important issue? Certainly not.
Should Trump be wasting his time with this nonsense? Of course not.
But LOL at trying to spin this into Trump simply being angry that TIME wouldn't tell him if he was likely to win. The fact that he was likely to win is the exact reason they called him.
Another question: Did TIME call anyone else -- any other possible winner? I doubt it. (And if they did, I bet it was AFTER Trump's tweet.)
They already had their minds made up.
It's clear as day.
What are you going on about?
What does my post quoted above have to do with Chaps -- or Clinton for that matter?
My argument regarding TIME isn't even political. It's one of common sense.
If you are going to criticize Trump, there's lots of legitimate things to pick to do so.
Trying to claim that he lied about TIME's phone call to him -- when TIME's cagey reaction to his tweet seems to indicate otherwise -- is just nonsensical partisan bashing.
oh you were just a toddler when clinton was in office, varys? cool.
fuck Indians. We need to get rid of reservations. the "Indians" who live on them live in modern housing, use money, cars, electricity, speak English... fuck outta here Tonto you live in America, deal with it
My parents support many different Native American foundations. We are very offended by the comments made today.
Fucked up story in The Washington Post today.
Sting operation targeting the paper, which turned out to be a lame attempt to discredit the MSM and muddy the waters on the nonce allegations against Roy Moore.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.50db13508f4aQuote:
A woman who falsely claimed to The Washington Post that Roy Moore, the Republican U.S. Senate candidate in Alabama, impregnated her as a teenager appears to work with an organization that uses deceptive tactics to secretly record conversations in an effort to embarrass its targets.
In a series of interviews over two weeks, the woman shared a dramatic story about an alleged sexual relationship with Moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15. During the interviews, she repeatedly pressed Post reporters to give their opinions on the effects that her claims could have on Moore’s candidacy if she went public.
The Post did not publish an article based on her unsubstantiated account. When Post reporters confronted her with inconsistencies in her story and an Internet posting that raised doubts about her motivations, she insisted that she was not working with any organization that targets journalists.
But on Monday morning, Post reporters saw her walking into the New York offices of Project Veritas, an organization that targets the mainstream news media and left-leaning groups. The organization sets up undercover “stings” that involve using false cover stories and covert video recordings meant to expose what the group says is media bias.
James O’Keefe, the founder of Project Veritas who was convicted of a misdemeanor in 2010 for using a fake identity to enter a federal building during a previous sting, declined to answer questions about the woman outside the Project Veritas office, a storefront in Mamaroneck, N.Y., on Monday morning shortly after the woman walked inside.
“I am not doing an interview right now, so I’m not going to say a word,” O’Keefe said.
At this point I'm starting to think that anyone who stands next to Trump to accept an award deserves to have their culture and people insulted.
Chief Navarro should have taken a knee.
After this story broke in the WaPo, everybody asked the same question: "Who the fuck is funding O'Keefe?"
In response to that, O'Keefe made an appeal asking the public for money. But everybody just laughed and called it a scam.
But to me, it's a clear diversion from the fact that's he's already being heavily funded by those trying to quash the Moore allegations. And it seems to have worked.
The fuck is happening to America? Even alleged haters like myself are not laughing anymore.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPrdXgSV4AE8KFb.jpg
it will be all over soon. the grim truth is that once a nation's abject stupidity reaches a certain tipping point, it gets taken into the food chain.
we had an interesting run for about 250 years but thats all over now. china will continue to quietly acquire resources and corporate influence here, and then they will leverage that influence to manipulate our national policies via the well established corporate lobbyist dynamics.
and honestly im all for it. a post-america earth could thrive.