Time to get on the TRUMP train

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Originally Posted by blake

am i wrong or wasn't mary supposed to be a virgin?

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Does the fact she was a virgin and the baby was (allegedly) immaculately conceived make it ok for a 90 year old man to marry and sire a child with a 12 year old? I would guess that still falls under the "being a piece of shit who condones child molestation" moniker as defined by Suicide King.

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yeah, if there wasn't sex, then he's not a child molester if that's your question. also not clear why you think the child, herself, would be considered the one "condoning" molestation, so...

of course, jesus most likely did not even exist from a historical perspective but let's keep this thread on track

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Originally Posted by blake

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Originally Posted by verminaard

Does the fact she was a virgin and the baby was (allegedly) immaculately conceived make it ok for a 90 year old man to marry and sire a child with a 12 year old? I would guess that still falls under the "being a piece of shit who condones child molestation" moniker as defined by Suicide King.

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yeah, if there wasn't sex, then he's not a child molester if that's your question. also not clear why you think the child, herself, would be considered the one "condoning" molestation, so...

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No, I was arguing Christians condone child molestation and are pieces of shit by Suicide King's criteria. Also, I am guessing sex is not the criteria for molestation as most cases of molestation we are talking about didn't involve any sex.

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Originally Posted by verminaard

Does the fact she was a virgin and the baby was (allegedly) immaculately conceived make it ok for a 90 year old man to marry and sire a child with a 12 year old? I would guess that still falls under the "being a piece of shit who condones child molestation" moniker as defined by Suicide King.

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yeah, if there wasn't sex, then he's not a child molester if that's your question. also not clear why you think the child, herself, would be considered the one "condoning" molestation, so...

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technically speaking the christian god sexually assaulted a 12 year old child, knocking her up before amscraying into the sunset to escape justice.

DRUMSTICK & WISHBONE PARDONED, 2 ABSOLUTE GODS

much better names than those faggots tator & tot. Suck shit libtards

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Originally Posted by blake

yeah, if there wasn't sex, then he's not a child molester if that's your question. also not clear why you think the child, herself, would be considered the one "condoning" molestation, so...

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No, I was arguing Christians condone child molestation and are pieces of shit by Suicide King's criteria. Also, I am guessing sex is not the criteria for molestation as most cases of molestation we are talking about didn't involve any sex.

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SK didn't write that that, but if he did he'd be correct.

Evangelical Christians are generally pieces of shit.

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Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner

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No, I was arguing Christians condone child molestation and are pieces of shit by Suicide King's criteria. Also, I am guessing sex is not the criteria for molestation as most cases of molestation we are talking about didn't involve any sex.

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SK didn't write that that, but if he did he'd be correct.

Evangelical Christians are generally pieces of shit.

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Last time I checked the whole Mary, Joseph and Jesus thing was big for all Christians. Not fair or consistent to single out Evangelicals. To be consistent you pretty much have to say anyone who is Christian, Jewish or Muslim who doesn't denounce the numerous instances of child molestation perpetuated by God and central religious figures such as Joseph and Muhammad are pieces of shit.

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Originally Posted by verminaard

To be consistent you pretty much have to say anyone who is Christian, Jewish or Muslim who doesn't denounce the numerous instances of child molestation perpetuated by God and central religious figures such as Joseph and Muhammad are pieces of shit.

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You act as though this is some kind of checkmate logic, and that child molestation must be okay if billions of people condone it. That's quite a perverted moral compass you've got there.

But I don't think billions is even close to the right figure. The age of Mary at time of conception is widely disputed, and certainly isn't written in the Bible. Even if it explicitly stated that she was 12, there's tons of obscure shit in the Bible that Christians choose not to believe or simply have never read. Muslims too.

Strict adherents of any religion are in the minority, and in most cases they are indeed horrible people.

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Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner

SK didn't write that that, but if he did he'd be correct.

Evangelical Christians are generally pieces of shit.

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Last time I checked the whole Mary, Joseph and Jesus thing was big for all Christians. Not fair or consistent to single out Evangelicals. To be consistent you pretty much have to say anyone who is Christian, Jewish or Muslim who doesn't denounce the numerous instances of child molestation perpetuated by God and central religious figures such as Joseph and Muhammad are pieces of shit.

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i don't get the point you're trying to make.

you think any christian who is against pedophilia is a hypocrite, because mary, through a virgin birth, had jesus? what kind of logic is that?

do you also think any jew or christian who is against slavery is also a hypocrite, since slavery wasn't outlawed in the old testament?

this is how you're defending roy moore?

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Originally Posted by verminaard

Last time I checked the whole Mary, Joseph and Jesus thing was big for all Christians. Not fair or consistent to single out Evangelicals. To be consistent you pretty much have to say anyone who is Christian, Jewish or Muslim who doesn't denounce the numerous instances of child molestation perpetuated by God and central religious figures such as Joseph and Muhammad are pieces of shit.

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i don't get the point you're trying to make.

you think any christian who is against pedophilia is a hypocrite, because mary, through a virgin birth, had jesus? what kind of logic is that?

do you also think any jew or christian who is against slavery is also a hypocrite, since slavery wasn't outlawed in the old testament?

this is how you're defending roy moore?

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I am not defending Roy Moore. This isn't about Roy Moore. This is about how human beings are for the most part tribal. You pick a tribe and everything your tribe does isn't so bad, and everything the other tribe does is. Then we make up some insincere self-serving false reasoning that holds up to zero scrutiny to rationalize our positions and demonize and dehumanize the "other".

Go to the zoo and look at apes form tribes and throw poop at each other. We think our political discourse is more than this because our brains are a little bigger, but it really isn't. It is the same thing.

Roy Moore met his wife when she was 16 and he attended her dance recital featuring only middle school and high school girls.

And Donald Trump has endorsed him to be a Senator. Trump did love walking into the dressing room before the Miss Teen USA pageant, according to several 15 year olds involved.

Here's what he told Howard Stern about the Miss USA pageant-

"Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting, I want to make sure that everything is good.

You know, the dresses. ‘Is everyone okay?’ You know, they're standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good."

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Originally Posted by blake

i don't get the point you're trying to make.

you think any christian who is against pedophilia is a hypocrite, because mary, through a virgin birth, had jesus? what kind of logic is that?

do you also think any jew or christian who is against slavery is also a hypocrite, since slavery wasn't outlawed in the old testament?

this is how you're defending roy moore?

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I am not defending Roy Moore. This isn't about Roy Moore. This is about how human beings are for the most part tribal. You pick a tribe and everything your tribe does isn't so bad, and everything the other tribe does is. Then we make up some insincere self-serving false reasoning that holds up to zero scrutiny to rationalize our positions and demonize and dehumanize the "other".

Go to the zoo and look at apes form tribes and throw poop at each other. We think our political discourse is more than this because our brains are a little bigger, but it really isn't. It is the same thing.

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We've established that you have no problem with a 32 year old asking a 14 year old's mother to babysit her, and then trying to fuck her.

Nothing else you can possibly type will undo that.

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The president just endorsed an accused child molester because you don’t want a liberal democrat in the senate seat. Fucking repulsive.

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i don't think trump should have come out and endorsed moore, but i can't blame him or any republicans for hoping moore gets elected.

the senate is virtually a 50/50 split. one vote might mean the difference in trump being able to actually pass any of his agenda and not.

to put it another way, how many democrats would have chosen to vote for bob dole over bill clinton if they knew then what they know now.

if we're being honest, the answer is zero. the vote would have been unchanged.

would any liberal democrat have thought, "i want liberal supreme court justices, greater environmental protections and expanded social programs/health care, but have to vote for bob dole (who i think will literally ruin the country for generations) cause bill's a sex offender"?

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Originally Posted by verminaard

I am not defending Roy Moore. This isn't about Roy Moore. This is about how human beings are for the most part tribal. You pick a tribe and everything your tribe does isn't so bad, and everything the other tribe does is. Then we make up some insincere self-serving false reasoning that holds up to zero scrutiny to rationalize our positions and demonize and dehumanize the "other".

Go to the zoo and look at apes form tribes and throw poop at each other. We think our political discourse is more than this because our brains are a little bigger, but it really isn't. It is the same thing.

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We've established that you have no problem with a 32 year old asking a 14 year old's mother to babysit her, and then trying to fuck her.

Nothing else you can possibly type will undo that.

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We've established you have no problem making up false straw men arguments and positions for people you are arguing against. Once we establish there is a huge disconnect between what I actually say and what your brain processes the rest is pretty moot.

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the senate is virtually a 50/50 split. one vote might mean the difference in trump being able to actually pass any of his agenda and not.

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unless the agenda is to 'blame it all on obama' there is exactly zero chance that the republicans pass anything at all.

the money shot is a scotus pick, everything else is what color noose they want to wear to the gallows.

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anyway how are all those great new coal jobs doing?

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Almost as great as the wall Mexico is paying for.

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Bookmarked for 2018 when coal jobs are up by 100% And the wall is complete.

A lot of lol4's to come.

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We've established that you have no problem with a 32 year old asking a 14 year old's mother to babysit her, and then trying to fuck her.

Nothing else you can possibly type will undo that.

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We've established you have no problem making up false straw men arguments and positions for people you are arguing against. Once we establish there is a huge disconnect between what I actually say and what your brain processes the rest is pretty moot.

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I'm just proud of you for not responding with a nonsensical reference to the old testament again.

Can somebody just give the lunatic his 2scoops so we can put this issue to bed?

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FRAUD. SK is in his 30s and rocks the wannabe gangsta persona. He's not even a real person, just an avatar of what he thinks society thinks is cool/acceptable. A low IQ easily manipulated drone.

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Suicide King: Idiot

FRAUD. SK is in his 30s and rocks the wannabe gangsta persona. He's not even a real person, just an avatar of what he thinks society thinks is cool/acceptable. A low IQ easily manipulated drone.

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I would take you out to dinner because there has to be more to you than your semi retarded presence here.

I would take SK out to dinner because I have no doubt I would enjoy his company.

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Suicide King: Idiot

FRAUD. SK is in his 30s and rocks the wannabe gangsta persona. He's not even a real person, just an avatar of what he thinks society thinks is cool/acceptable. A low IQ easily manipulated drone.

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Is this the guy with the fucked up neck tattoos?

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Can somebody just give the lunatic his 2scoops so we can put this issue to bed?

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Inspired by their dear leader, Trump supporters have taken to Twitter to express their outrage at LeVar Burton, the guy from Star Trek and Reading Rainbow. #TheyAllLookTheSame

https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017...ter-lavar-ball

Can we all just take a second to thank Yung Curaçao for this thread? Without him, the world would be such a happier, more productive place. Happy Thanksgiving, Martin, wherever you are....sweet prince.



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Can we all just take a second to thank Yung Curaçao for this thread? Without him, the world would be such a happier, more productive place. Happy Thanksgiving, Martin, wherever you are....sweet prince.



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Wouldn't have mattered, we just switched threads from "President 2016"

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of course, jesus most likely did not even exist from a historical perspective but let's keep this thread on track

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MumblesBadly: "Jesus probably didn't exist" is a myth. The contemporary Jewish historian Josephus mentions him by name being a messianic figure with a following and getting crucified.

at the risk of completely derailing this thread, i highly doubt you read what josephus actually said. most scholars acknowledge that the one paragraph he wrote relating to jesus the messiah was added by the church well after the fact.

if you look at that paragraph and compare it to his entire book (or even the rest of that page), this borders on inarguable. it's obviously written by an entirely different person.

Blaaaaaaaaake, why are you chasing vermitard all the way to his special ed class?

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Blaaaaaaaaake, why are you chasing vermitard all the way to his special ed class?

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i really have no excuse for this. i’m just hella intrigued by the whole jesus myth thing.

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of course, jesus most likely did not even exist from a historical perspective but let's keep this thread on track

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MumblesBadly: "Jesus probably didn't exist" is a myth. The contemporary Jewish historian Josephus mentions him by name being a messianic figure with a following and getting crucified.

at the risk of completely derailing this thread, i highly doubt you read what josephus actually said. most scholars acknowledge that the one paragraph he wrote relating to jesus the messiah was added by the church well after the fact.

if you look at that paragraph and compare it to his entire book (or even the rest of that page), this borders on inarguable. it's obviously written by an entirely different person.

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nice middle school tier atheist scholarship there. a tip of the fedora to you, good sir.

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MumblesBadly: "Jesus probably didn't exist" is a myth. The contemporary Jewish historian Josephus mentions him by name being a messianic figure with a following and getting crucified.

at the risk of completely derailing this thread, i highly doubt you read what josephus actually said. most scholars acknowledge that the one paragraph he wrote relating to jesus the messiah was added by the church well after the fact.

if you look at that paragraph and compare it to his entire book (or even the rest of that page), this borders on inarguable. it's obviously written by an entirely different person.

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nice middle school tier atheist scholarship there. a tip of the fedora to you, good sir.

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BlunderMaker: But intellectually superior enough to understand the limitations to one's own knowledge?

Blake: And you have advanced training in Ancient Greek and authorship to qualify this statement as meaning that the Josephus references to Jesus and related figures is merely fiction perpetrated by history-altering believers back in the day? Because the Wikipedia article on the matter, with numerous scholarly references, says otherwise.

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The extant manuscripts of the writings of the first-century Romano-Jewish historian Flavius Josephus include references to Jesus and the origins of Christianity.[1][2] Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, written around 93–94 AD, includes two references to the biblical Jesus Christ in Books 18 and 20 and a reference to John the Baptist in Book 18.[1][3] Scholarly opinion varies on the total or partial authenticity of the reference in Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 of the Antiquities, a passage that states that Jesus the Messiah was a wise teacher who was crucified by Pilate, usually called the Testimonium Flavianum.[4][5][1] The general scholarly view is that while the Testimonium Flavianum is most likely not authentic in its entirety, it is broadly agreed upon that it originally consisted of an authentic nucleus, which was then subject to Christian interpolation and/or alteration.[5][6][7][8][9][10] Although the exact nature and extent of the Christian redaction remains unclear,[11] broad consensus exists as to what the original text of the Testimonium by Josephus would have looked like.[9]

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Personally, I was once intrigued by the notion of the Jesus Myth, as I am an atheist. But after seeing how such claims tend to be based on projections of small issues, seemingly corroborated by mythology of predecessor religions (cue Zeitgeist The Movie), I decided that the Jesus Myth was a fanciful projection of militant atheists who are grasping at any reason, however tenuous, to denigrate religious belief. IMO, there's enough reason to do that separate from a wishful extrapolation of a speculative thesis. In other words, it's militant atheism's version of the Oxfordian theory, something I also at one time found convincing.

an indian republican destroying the internet is the most 2017 america thing ive ever heard.

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You can say that about most taxes. Along w similar vein, why should land owners be the ones responsible for paying for public education?

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Because the value of their land is a social construct, and society costs money to maintain.

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Uh, what isn't using that standard?

This Trump tweet from several hours ago flew under the radar as it was only a 'reply tweet'.

Incredible trolling. Gets accused of racism and replies with "MAGA"... lol he doesn't give a single fuck.

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It has obv always meant white again.

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This Trump tweet from several hours ago flew under the radar as it was only a 'reply tweet'.

Incredible trolling. Gets accused of racism and replies with "MAGA"... lol he doesn't give a single fuck.

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That guy is a real piece of shit.

Flynn flipped.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/u...sia-trump.html

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Flynn flipped.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/u...sia-trump.html

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Trump said he was appointing Flynn to restore America's position in the world. Now Flynn is doing that by cooperating and showing that America is still a nation governed by the rule of law, not a personality cult.

IMPEACHING TRUMP WILL MAGA

Once this tax bill fails considering the latest stances of the Trump administration backing someone who is perceived by the GOP establishment to be a pedophile, and the flagrant abundant racism, constant undermining, and outright insanity via Tweets, plus the obvious collusion that continues to come to light, I don't think it's a far fetched notion anymore that the GOP turns on him in the semi near future and moves to impeach.

That is if Mueller doesn't blow the whole thing wide open before then.