Hamas hits Israel in unprecedented attack.

RichardBrodiesCombover.: Hamas is still thriving, pussy

Hamas are more or less controlled opposition. Them "thriving" serves the Israeli right much more than the Palestinians. It gives the Israeli right an excuse to never entertain Palestinian statehood, while they slowly take over the West Bank. And the Palestinians, and more generally the Ummah, are playing Tic Tac Toe while Netanyahu is playing 4D chess, and they think Hamas thriving is actually a good thing for them.

That being said, at the end of the day Hamas, and more generally the Palestinians, have agency and are responsible for their actions. Even if they are incredibly stupid and playing right into Netanyahu's hands. They are still the ones that did 10/7, took hostages, and are ultimately responsible for everything that has happened the last year.

Also, FWIW I dont actually think Netanyahu planned 10/7. Generally, when something unexpected happens, and the 2 options for why it happened are incompetence or diabolical planning, I would always assume incompetence is the more likely scenario. But all in all, Netanyahu I would say definitely took advantage of the opportunity presented, and projecting the last year as a "Palestinian victory" is pure delusional cope.

Jews are the wealthiest group on the planet ainec

Louis Theroux made a documentary about the illegal settlers living in the West Bank.

https://youtu.be/DUeAqykYrGM?si=xv6iF3hDxR8cjYGb

https://x.com/Uncommonsince76/status...45244524281907

Looks like people are fed up with Israelis murdering children:

https://x.com/TheOfficial1984/status...DgXBuzxPA&s=19

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I'm not sure where you got those numbers, but this is the most up to date estimate from our state department:

"The U.S. government estimates the total Palestinian population at 3 million in the West Bank and 2 million in the Gaza Strip (midyear 2022)."

The 1.6 million you are referring to are the older estimates of Palestinians that are Israeli citizens that live in Israel outside of those areas. This population is estimated now to be around 2 million. The combined estimates are over 7.5 million, meaning Palestinians are actually the ethnic majority in what is known as Israel.

Israel is essentially put in a no win situation long term. Flattening Gaza is obviously not the right move, but I'm not sure what else they are supposed to do without risking countless soldiers in an urban warfare setting if they don't flatten it. By the end of day one our media was blaming this on Iran. This is 15 straight years of a Zionist push to invading Persia. There are a lot of dominoes that could fall this time leading to it actually happening. All we need is Netanyahu to pull a Bush/Iraq scenario and here we go.

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The parallels between this and 9/11 being used as an excuse for Bush, Cheney, Halliburton and co. to invade Iraq are pretty remarkable. It makes me wonder if they hadn't did a dry run on this scenario when the Trump administration took out Soleimani. Apparently Biden, perhaps only to save face, has directly asked Israel not to respond.

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The point I was trying to make by quoting my post from early October is that logic says Israel is going to use this as an excuse to escalate things to a conflict with Iran. They have been pushing it since the end of the Bush administration. Why would they not follow through now? Iran is an existential threat to Israel, and it is in the best interest of the world to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons. Our government knows this, but understands the potential consequences. This is why it hasn't already happened.

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