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like the old simmons NBA trade value articles, who walks away from those talks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
degrom is arb eligible after this year and FA after 2021...lord only knows how long gleyber is locked up cheap by the yanks, but guessing until 2023 and probably not FA eligible until 2025 if I had to guess...
yanks obvious Achilles heel every postseason is pitching, so this might be well worth it even if they had to give up a guy like gleyber...
Cashman and the Yankees have their head in the right place.
They will land someone plus a few more bits. DeGrom is just an idea to illustrate a point. Gleyber Torres is just an example of their wretched excess of talent
So they have an excess of talent and have historically been a “win now” organization. I’m not talking division but the WS. Thus, the Dodgers v Yankees organizational dichotomy.
Red Sawks are “this year or bust” but really have nothing left to dangle as trade bait. Twilight has fallen on this squad. They may be good enough “as is”. I doubt it
I found it very interesting that the Yankees down 5-4 to the Nats in the 9th committed to keeping Sánchez on the bench to have a full day of rest and stayed with Romine. Romine is .333 but doesn’t have the game winning pop Sánchez promises. This is an example of the long view that delivers rings.
Epic AL East battle.
Both teams r great if this was a softball league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I dont trust there starting pitching in a Best of 7. Especially the Yankees.. Moves will have to be made or neither of these teams win shit.
Druff could put together a team who could piss on the BlueJays, Rays and Orioles.
Whoever gets Bundy or Happ will be the front runner only to lose to a AL West team or the Indians.
If Degroom has any sense he never goes over to the AL. Put him on the Dodgers and watch him get lit up like a Christmas Tree at Halloween.
All that being said... Your Ws champs r none other than The Brewers bitches LOL
couldn't agree more...yanks have always hit a ton of homers during the regular season and then when it gets to the playoffs they get shut down by superior pitching...I mean when is the last time the yanks splurged for starting pitching in the FA market? not counting tanaka, was it CC?Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23Both teams r great if this was a softball league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I dont trust there starting pitching in a Best of 7. Especially the Yankees.. Moves will have to be made or neither of these teams win shit.
Druff could put together a team who could piss on the BlueJays, Rays and Orioles.
Whoever gets Bundy or Happ will be the front runner only to lose to a AL West team or the Indians.
do you really trust a rotation of severino, tanaka, CC, grey come October...lol...they get another ace to back severino and can line up severino/ace to be named/tanaka they'd have something with the way their bullpen is...
Your makin’ my point today. Who gives a fuck about the regular season? Except Druff. Win the satellite into the tournament. Position yourself for what will be required in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPeniscouldn't agree more...yanks have always hit a ton of homers during the regular season and then when it gets to the playoffs they get shut down by superior pitching...I mean when is the last time the yanks splurged for starting pitching in the FA market? not counting tanaka, was it CC?Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
do you really trust a rotation of severino, tanaka, CC, grey come October...lol...they get another ace to back severino and can line up severino/ace to be named/tanaka they'd have something with the way their bullpen is...
Nothing is sacred not even your 21 year old quasi prospect. You give him up and ask what else they want.
Druff refused the notion of trading prospects. I’ll dumpster dive for his posts if you like. “We won the (wretched) NL West so obviously we good. If Dodgers lose its variance.”
The starting rotation for either today’s Yankees or Sawks aren’t playoff ready. Regular season functional and good enough.
To address your point about the last time Yanks hit the FA:
When exactly are we talking about? This is an entirely new lineup.
2015 Opening Day
Ellsbury
Gardner
Beltrán
Teixeira
McCann
Headley
Rodriguez
Drew
Gregorius
I jumped on the Yanks in 2016. I was desperate for a life raft to leave the sinking ship that were the Sawks.
The 2017 Yanks were waaaay ahead of schedule.
This team is entirely new from 2015. They blew that old timers squad the fuck up. Today’s Yankees have no bearing on whatever free agency you might have expected. There was no point.
It’s time for Druff’s Dodgers to strip down and rebuild. Maybe just maybe try to get some value in trade for Kershaw. He’d clear waivers.
Hanley Ramirez is at home right now waiting for their call. Get him together with Kemp again. Together they can share testosterone replacement therapy chatter with Turner.
when I'm talking about the yanks in the FA market, I was talking about them going after starting pitching and not hitting (tex, jacoby, Stanton, etc)...gimmie 3 aces to solid starters in the playoffs against the yanks and ill take that all day long (I see you Justin-cole-lance/dallas)...
regular season only matters to avoid the wild card and the huge amount of variance associated with it...
Yankees are 5-2 vs Astros in 2018Quote:
Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis
Yankees took Astros to game 7 in playoffs last year.
It’s a pretty good argument. I lean Astros but I’ll work through that shit come post season
I gotta ride Yankees in exchange for the sadness and pain they will deliver unto the Sawks.
Sanlmar misses the fact that the Dodgers got to Game 7 of the World Series. Had they started Wood instead of Darvish, they could be defending champs.
They did screw up getting Darvish instead of Verlander. It appears they could have had Verlander for relatively cheap.
The current Dodgers are actually doing okay considering the crippling injuries dogging the team -- especially the starting rotation. They've had big surprises out of Muncy, Kemp, and Stripling, thus they stay afloat.
Kershaw might suffer the same early career ending as Sandy Koufax. Kershaw might actually be the best regular season pitcher of all time, though. Look at the numbers.
Fortunately for the Dodgers, nobody in the NL is killing it. The great teams are in the AL this year. Dodgers could easily make it back to the World Series if injuries heal and they grab a player or two before the deadline.
Who's going to beat them? The inconsistent, playoff-choking Nats? The Cubs who haven't improved over last year? The overrated and soon-to-be-sinking Brewers? The inexperienced Braves?
BTW, coming into tonight, the Dodgers lead the NL in home runs, and have the second-most runs scored.
The Dodgers had the alledged best pitcher ever for 10 years and an unlimited payroll. Last year every player had a career year to drive the Dodgers to their best finish during this era.
Dodgers had Greinke and Kershaw ‘13-‘15 and I would submit that Greinke was the better pitcher in ‘15.
How do you fuck that up? Seriously?Quote:
"Last year, in my opinion, no offense to Jake [Arrieta], Zack [Greinke] was the best pitcher in the game," Kershaw told MLB.com. "He’s tough to replace.
Results were poor.
Dodgers were so close. Just a few pieces away. Greinke/Kershaw needed relief. Those pieces never came. There was nothing in their way financially or with trade chips.
Maybe it never would have happened. Neither Greinke or Kershaw could rise to the occasion post season during their careers
Very reminiscent of the Tigers Verlander/Scherzer era. BnP would be the first to school you on that bullpen fail and front office ineptitude.
Those opportunities come about very infrequently for most organizations. Dodgers and Tigers have a long period of rebuilding ahead
Finally Druff, because I need to snuff out the faint hope you still seem to hang on to ...
The D’Backs Paul Goldschmidt absolutely was a wooden indian at the plate in May. .144 avg
The D’Backs kept trotting him out to the plate regardless of the importance of the at bat. They had to let him work through it.
I live bet his at bats by choosing strike out for lulz. He was a lock. Wretched. He had no prayer of making contact. Never saw anything like it. He looked so sad - like he was gonna cry
Meanwhile, the Dodgers benefitted by mathematically appearing close. “Math is idiotic” someone once said.
The cubs are a better team this year than they were last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
dodgers win a few games now we got druff talking about this shit dodgers team and them winning the world series
A Dodgers fan wrote this. People are funny - especially Dodgers peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
19 year old teen phenom & National, Juan Soto, homers twice to beat the Yankees. I just tip my cap.
Soto worked his way through the Nationals minor leagues in 2 years and skipped AAA.
I love that baseball is letting the kids play these days and screwing less & less with service time.
Nats have never made it out of the NLDS.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarA Dodgers fan wrote this. People are funny - especially Dodgers peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
19 year old teen phenom & National, Juan Soto, homers twice to beat the Yankees. I just tip my cap.
Soto worked his way through the Nationals minor leagues in 2 years and skipped AAA.
I love that baseball is letting the kids play these days and screwing less & less with service time.
Dodgers have been to four NLCS since 2008, and one World Series. Huge difference.
Dodgers also have the best record in the NL since 2012.
how many world series have the dodgers won since 2012?
I would rather have a team which perpetually contends and isn't quite there yet than a team which wins the World Series and then is crap for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
I am also a Lakers fan, and I loved their championship teams, but it has been frustrating watching them for the past several years when they've been awful. I've pretty much ignored them because I know they have no chance.
While the Dodgers failing to win the World Series for 29 years has been irritating, at least I have been able to enjoy them contending most of the time, especially over the past 13 seasons (they made the postseason in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017, and advanced to the NLCS in five of those.)
Sounds like a lot of heartache and frustration spread out of time but winning one and sucking also frustrating so it's close
Sanlmar,
First time caller long time listener. I’m a big fan but feel obligated that I must call you out for your repeated JD Martinez spring training take. You still think Fenway doesn’t suit his swing?
The moral of the story is don’t read too much into spring training.
That being said fuck the Red Sox, Yankees, and Dodgers.
I was monumentally wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheesfaced
*****
Dan Druff won’t be playing this event:
Since June 4th the Yankees have gone under 12 straight games.
Druff name your PriceQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI would rather have a team which perpetually contends and isn't quite there yet than a team which wins the World Series and then is crap for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
I am also a Lakers fan, and I loved their championship teams, but it has been frustrating watching them for the past several years when they've been awful. I've pretty much ignored them because I know they have no chance.
While the Dodgers failing to win the World Series for 29 years has been irritating, at least I have been able to enjoy them contending most of the time, especially over the past 13 seasons (they made the postseason in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017, and advanced to the NLCS in five of those.)
Lakers win a Championship before the Dodgers.
Dodgers suck cock and r in one of the weakest Divisions in baseball next to the AL Central..
How in the bloody hell were the hapless Dodgers with Maeda on the mound favored vs the Cubs at home in an afternoon game?
This isn’t even a Dodgers hate post. I’m having a great day. I’ll come up with something in the spirit of this fine day.
Dodgers are a bottomless well of fail - I have a few fresh ideas.
was wondering the same lol
We about to close em out
bring in MORROW
Wilson sucks fucking balls
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Originally Posted by big dick
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Originally Posted by big dick
2 really good games so far druff
Was too busy trying to make a final table in the $1500 NL to watch, other than checking out the updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
Otherwise would have watched. Yes, both very close.
Good chance Dodgers and Cubs meet in the NLCS again, because the other NL teams are trash this year. Dodgers should win the West and Cubs should take the Central again.
When does interleague play start again so the Dodgers can get some real competition? All this running through NL teams is getting boring.
Another series, another (probable) sweep.
Lol they literally split a double header yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaardWhen does interleague play start again so the Dodgers can get some real competition? All this running through NL teams is getting boring.
Another series, another (probable) sweep.
The team with the best record in the NL might want a word with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffWas too busy trying to make a final table in the $1500 NL to watch, other than checking out the updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
Otherwise would have watched. Yes, both very close.
Good chance Dodgers and Cubs meet in the NLCS again, because the other NL teams are trash this year. Dodgers should win the West and Cubs should take the Central again.
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Originally Posted by verminaardQuote:
Originally Posted by big dick
Lol Dodgers
The All Star game approaches.
I guess KempQuote:
Does every team have to be represented?
Yes, and it is the job of the Commissioner's Office to ensure this stipulation is accounted for with those selections.
Personally, I’d send them all home for a chance to reflect on how awful they are but the rules are the rules
... this just cracks me up.
Send it in now
Cubs vs Astros
Or
Cubs vs Red Sox
I'm awful proud of my Phillies over 76.5 wins bets but the real max bet should have been KC unders. Good god this team sucks.
agree re: Kemp....also Stripling deserves consideration, as does Jansen & maybe GrandalQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I happen to know the sportsbooks in Vegas have television so I really can’t explain your Red Sox pick, especially today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Yankees came back from 5-0 against the Mariners to win. The Mariners are a pretty good team. Stanton walk off, of course.
Yankees are like 5-2 vs Astros this year.
The Red Sox are the same team as last year plus JD Martinez & Uber Betts. There is nothing else happening offensively. I will grant they pulled their head out of their sabremetric ass when it came to seeing too many pitches like it was 2004. They HAVE switched to a more aggressive (mgr Cora was an Astro) approach and the Sawks players (Xander) are relieved.
The critical difference is that Cashman is not done. He has young trade chips galore. He is so deep he has genuine problems when guys come off the DL. Who do you send down?
Conversely, the Sawks have no chips. Unlike the idiot Sawks (Hanley Ramirez & Sandoval etc etc) the Yankees have salary cap room.
Sawks are now 2 games down, lost last 4 of 5, and the power outage is becoming more visible.
Random musings:
Speaking of power outage... Bryce Harper. I remember the stories about Bryce Harper getting an eye exam in 2011 and the doctor could not believe he was ever able to hit a baseball. He was blind as a bat. Gets fitted with modern contacts.
My experience is that guys who are superior hitters have superior vision. Remarkably, the Red Sox were one of the first teams to do regular eye exams to match the regular physicals pre season.
When the Sawks started they tested a player named Manny Ramirez. Manny’s vision stunned the doctor. The doctor set about creating crazy tests to get a grip on just how incredible his vision and hand-eye was. The articles I read and the description of these tests amused me big time.
Your eyesight never gets better Bryce. Contacts do not make you equal. I always wonder about that guy’s vision.
Will Mookie Betts score a bigger contract? Harper is prolly costing himself tens of millions.
So you may not be wrong Cubs vs Nats.
Mookie Betts career year vs Bryce Harper lifetime achievement
I wouldn’t dismiss Betts. I followed Harper. I got the Sports Illustrated issue with 16 year old Harper on the cover. I get it.
Betts has had a similar early pedigree giving credence to his performance. Betts’ success now is not a surprise and is consistent with his body of work since he was a tyke.
Couple of informal examples drawn from memory:
Betts was challenging a consecutive game hit streak set by Kevin Millar & Kevin Youkilis (Greek God of Walks). What was remarkable was that the streak started in High A and it continued as he moved up to finally AA. Most guys have to struggle against better pitchers and have an adjustment period. Not Betts. I think it was 70 games and I can’t remember if he broke the record.
Betts also had a streak of 123 plate appearances without a strikeout. Imagine that in this day and age. Crazy shit.
The Mookie Betts comparison is not vs Harper but Trout. Betts compares but Trout is god.
I just remembered Youkilis in telling the batting steak story. I remember he was another Vision freak. Human limit is said to be 20-8 and Youk was 20-10.
Looked it up and found this article.
Baseball Vision: When 20-20 eyesight just wont cut it.
https://kchitter.com/2014/08/basebal...just-wont-cut/
My daily (Daly) ramble
You seem like an earnest man and I’m comfortable letting this nonsense slide.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrenadaRogeragree re: Kemp....also Stripling deserves consideration, as does Jansen & maybe GrandalQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
We’ve solidly established Dodgers fans really don’t give a fuck. It is unlikely anyone but Kemp will be voted in.
Let’s dial back the wayback machine, Sherman. The year is 2017
The Dodger fans ... strike that. LA residents would not be bothered to thank Turner with their vote. Just what exactly would he have to do to impress these heathens?Quote:
I'll say it loud and clear again," Jansen said. "It's the Dodger fans' fault. We should've voted for [Seager and Turner]. They deserve to be the starters."
It took a Final Vote for the 32nd spot to squeak him in. Thanks LA.
Yeah, arguing about the merit of Stripling or Jansen is academic.
Ichiro, who isn't allowed to be in the dugout during MLB games under Major League rules, did this:
http://a4.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img...%2D9.jpg&w=570
:lol
Dodgers Cubs
ESPN announcer, “Paredes has been a revelation for the Dodgers”.
Never heard of him. Damn, something good for Dodgers? This is not good news.
Lol, Parades “The Revelation” immediately walks Heyward to load bases. Yeah, that Jason Heyward.
Then he dishes a meatball to Javier Baez. GRAND SLAM. 7-2 6th in
Yeah, another Dodgers pitching phenom. Fake news ESPN
I must be honest, my patience with the Cubs has been sorely tested. Nice save. I was ready to get behind the Braves and turn my back on them.
Order has been restored
This AL Central is glorious. Indians mucking around 9 games over and 8.5 clear. They could play .500 here out and no one is catching them. Just one horrible division.