Why is he not slapped with the scammatar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
History of shady behavior, freerollings etc.
It's evident that you have a soft spot for him but come on. No one else could pull these shenanigans.
Being a catastrophic train wreck is no excuse for shadiness.
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Originally Posted by Sloppy JoeWhy is he not slapped with the scammatar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
History of shady behavior, freerollings etc.
It's evident that you have a soft spot for him but come on. No one else could pull these shenanigans.
Being a catastrophic train wreck is no excuse for shadiness.
I have to agree on this one.
There are a lot of people I could name on this site, who, if they pulled this same shit would be instabanned.
And come on Druff, only posting: "Just received $63 from garrett", and nothing else... when you know what's going on here. Not quite kosher.
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I have to agree on this one.
There are a lot of people I could name on this site, who, if they pulled this same shit would be instabanned.
And come on Druff, only posting: "Just received $63 from garrett", and nothing else... when you know what's going on here. Not quite kosher.
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I am not understanding why some of you feel garrett should be banned for scamming.
First off, the match was only for $50. Given garrett's long tenure on this forum (even in the face of constant abuse), it's hard for me to believe that he was really planning to freeroll adamantium for a whopping $50 and risk a permaban for it.
He also knew this was an escrowed match, and that such a plan was unlikely to work.
I honestly think he was so gung-ho to play adamantium and show off his great poker skills that he didn't want to delay the match until the DFS site sent him the money he needed on Paypal. That's not an excuse, and I'm not going to pay garrett for his win. The money had to be escrowed beforehand, it wasn't, and therefore garrett was disqualified from winning. I will either send the $50 back to adamantium, or I can use it for a purpose of his choice.
Regarding the $63 received from garrett, I only mentioned that so people know that I am holding $63 of his for future matches. So if garrett wants to challenge anyone here for $63, he can, as I am already holding that money and will send it to the winner.
If I truly felt garrett was trying to scam/freeroll people here, I would ban him. However, I am seeing someone who just made an idiotic decision to play before escrowing because he was too eager to show off, and was afraid to admit that he was having a hard time getting $50 online to send me.
Well, never mind about the $63.
garrett PM'd me and said he wanted it back because he needs it for something.
So now I'm holding $0 for garrett, and nobody should play him for money unless he sends me something further.
He also wanted the $50 from adamantium, which I declined.
Why $63 if the agreed match was for $50?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
No idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belly BusterWhy $63 if the agreed match was for $50?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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not to rub salt in his festering, open wounds, but we were playing PLO after the adamantium match, and after he mocked my play and called me a nit, I was up chips on him when he kept sitting out, coming back, and then finally sat out and never returned. Didnt say anything, just tucked tail.
If we can't ban garrett for scamming, can we ban him for being a colossal fuckstick.
"For what it's worth" so long as I'm home and can get on my PC I'll play any of you degens for $50 In PLO anytime you want.
He wasn't insta-banned coz he brings hits like Tyde.
He only played Adamantium coz everyone else told him to fuck off till he escrowed.
Druff you joked he wouldn't roll anyone for a 2 figure sum....... He's already asked for it back!!!!!
On the face of it, this could reasonably be explained as an innocent mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If you take into account the history of dishonesty, angle shooting, backing out, etc. it's very hard to give benefit of doubt and assume good intentions.
I can't even believe what I'm reading here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Does Garrett have nudes of you or something?
The fucking gold in this 1 post is so epic. Holy shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
yeah.
Not only should his history be taken into account, but even if there was no history, I don't see how this could reasonably be explained as an innocent mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrslySiriusOn the face of it, this could reasonably be explained as an innocent mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If you take into account the history of dishonesty, angle shooting, backing out, etc. it's very hard to give benefit of doubt and assume good intentions.
He said the money had been sent. Not that he was good for it, not that you could trust him, but that it was sent.
Also he said it was sent by his backers, what happened to these mystical creatures? Because after he wins he pms Druff about having a hard time getting money off some other site. No mention of what happened to the "backers"...
So we got two blatant lies for the price of one. But he's not a scammer because?.....
So everyone wants the biggest train wreck ever to be banned?
This will all start to make sense when druff reveals his plan to start fast food chicken franchises in the southwest.
Poker fraud alert indeed.
Because he's a lying patricidal scammer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
get your facts straight broseph, it was only attempted patricideQuote:
Originally Posted by gauchojake
Maybe I am just not aware of similar incidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrslySiriusOn the face of it, this could reasonably be explained as an innocent mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If you take into account the history of dishonesty, angle shooting, backing out, etc. it's very hard to give benefit of doubt and assume good intentions.
When did he ever scam or attempt to scam anyone here in the past?
Were there any other incidents where he actually bet money here with people that he either didn't have or didn't escrow?
Look, obviously the guy is living from hand to mouth and tried to play this one "on credit", figuring he would get the money to me later if he lost. That's why I didn't pay him. But the bottom line is that he did send me a legitimate looking exchange with the DFS people regarding his withdrawal, and nobody here has ever lost a single penny to anything he's done, right?
It's hard to ban him just because he said he escrowed $50 and then sent it days later. There was no chance that this trick was going to work, as I wasn't going to pay him after winning. So this was actually a negative freeroll for him.
I will keep an eye out for similar circumstances, but unless I'm missing something, this isn't a bannable situation.
With that said, he does need to cool down with the threads/posts because he has been dominating the forum lately.
From what I've seen Druff he has pulled enough BS on other staking sites to be banned. Srsly posted some links that garret has conveniently avoided. He has pulled some shit here before too, which was evident by other posts in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffMaybe I am just not aware of similar incidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrslySirius
When did he ever scam or attempt to scam anyone here in the past?
Were there any other incidents where he actually bet money here with people that he either didn't have or didn't escrow?
Look, obviously the guy is living from hand to mouth and tried to play this one "on credit", figuring he would get the money to me later if he lost. That's why I didn't pay him. But the bottom line is that he did send me a legitimate looking exchange with the DFS people regarding his withdrawal, and nobody here has ever lost a single penny to anything he's done, right?
It's hard to ban him just because he said he escrowed $50 and then sent it days later. There was no chance that this trick was going to work, as I wasn't going to pay him after winning. So this was actually a negative freeroll for him.
I will keep an eye out for similar circumstances, but unless I'm missing something, this isn't a bannable situation.
With that said, he does need to cool down with the threads/posts because he has been dominating the forum lately.
Obv a ban is probably more extreme than you are willing to go here, but this offense is definitely worthy of a scammatar. Given the fact that garret is pining for action with practically every post he makes, it only makes sense IMO that other people who don't pay close attention to what goes on around here need to be warned of this shadiness.
The dude straight up lied to get the action Druff, repeatedly. You can say what you want about what you think would have been the outcome here, but there's no way you know for sure. He could have just as easily taken a nice long nap had he lost to Adamantium, and maybe never returned. I'd say that is as probable as what you have suggested might have happened.
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Originally Posted by vegas1369From what I've seen Druff he has pulled enough BS on other staking sites to be banned. Srsly posted some links that garret has conveniently avoided. He has pulled some shit here before too, which was evident by other posts in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Obv a ban is probably more extreme than you are willing to go here, but this offense is definitely worthy of a scammatar. Given the fact that garret is pining for action with practically every post he makes, it only makes sense IMO that other people who don't pay much close attention to what goes on around here need to be warned of this shadiness.
The dude straight up lied to get the action Druff, repeatedly. You can say what you want about what you think would have been the outcome here, but there's no way you know for sure. He could have just as easily taken a nice long nap had he lost to Adamantium, and maybe never returned. I'd say that is as probable as what you have suggested might have happened.
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Garrett cla'd him
2 week nap IMO.
It is quite coincidental that as soon as he rolled he isn't posting 24 times a day
From what I recall, he welched on a 10$ heads up bet that he lost, claiming afterwards that he thought it was best 2 out of 3. Even though no one else even remotely got that idea from the thread where the match was made. To be honest I was never involved in that thread so it would be better if betcheckbet could clarify as I may have some details wrong/missing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffMaybe I am just not aware of similar incidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrslySirius
When did he ever scam or attempt to scam anyone here in the past?
Were there any other incidents where he actually bet money here with people that he either didn't have or didn't escrow?
Look, obviously the guy is living from hand to mouth and tried to play this one "on credit", figuring he would get the money to me later if he lost. That's why I didn't pay him. But the bottom line is that he did send me a legitimate looking exchange with the DFS people regarding his withdrawal, and nobody here has ever lost a single penny to anything he's done, right?
It's hard to ban him just because he said he escrowed $50 and then sent it days later. There was no chance that this trick was going to work, as I wasn't going to pay him after winning. So this was actually a negative freeroll for him.
I will keep an eye out for similar circumstances, but unless I'm missing something, this isn't a bannable situation.
With that said, he does need to cool down with the threads/posts because he has been dominating the forum lately.
As far as the second highlighted portion... You know that, and I know that, but that doesn't mean he knew that. You do remember the part where he asked you for the 50$ right? This doesn't prove he isn't a scammer, it just proves he's a dumb scammer. If he was so aware he wasn't going to get the money, why did he ask for it?
And where is the man who was posting about 100 times a day until this happened? All of a sudden MIA? Again, typical scammer behavior. You turn on the lights, and the cockroaches scatter.
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