Melissa Schubert alleges a male poker player is stalking her

Ironic that Niko is quoting me out of context, and not mentioning that my threat to "call every night" was to a creepy male stalking my then-girlfriend in the 2000s, despite her repeated demands for him to cease contact with her.

Guess he feels a kinship with other creepy stalking males?

Niko, I did give you a platform. Every other site deleted your messages and banned your account. I let you speak out.

You must not understand what a platform is. It's a place where you can tell your story. It's not a place where you get to tell your story without question and criticism.

Don't make me the bad guy here. I was the only person in poker to let you use my site to speak out, and I even gave you lots of follow up questions where you had every opportunity to clearly make your point, but chose not to.

911

niko every1 sees u browsing lmao just type pusssy

That's a good point.

Niko, instead of talking shit on Twitter about me, why not just post here?

You're not banned. If you have something to show, let's see it.

Dude got catfished thinking it was the real Melissa then shipped a dick pic.

Then went off the rails after the real Melissa was creeped out.

This thing could have ended with a simple apology.

Nope, instead the guy doubled down and some trolls drove him over a cliff.

Seek professional help kid.

Here's another little nugget of info for you, Niko.

Melissa doesn't care for me. I am not her friend, nor have I ever been. You can ask around.

I would have no reason to cover for her, take her side, or anything like that. If I felt you were wronged by her, I would be the first to speak up on your behalf.

Even if you disagree with my assessment of the situation, I'm sure a logical examination of this matter will show you that I am not part of any conspiracy to take her side.

I am not involved in this, and don't want to be.

lmaooo

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That's a good point.

Niko, instead of talking shit on Twitter about me, why not just post here?

You're not banned. If you have something to show, let's see it.

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Bad idea, Druff. Nobody wants to see his dick pics, except the Roulette fag.

https://x.com/TalesofDoc/status/1890407910745711035 LOLOL niko comes on at around 14:00

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https://x.com/TalesofDoc/status/1890407910745711035 LOLOL niko comes on at around 14:00

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Just saying your obsession with this lunatic is venturing into the same ballpark as said lunatic’s obsession with the Melissa girl.

I spoke to Niko on the phone tonight, at his request.

It was the first time we have ever spoken directly, and we've never met in person.

I heard him out, and I'll give him credit that he came off as a lot more sane than he did on the forum. The conversation was never heated, and he was respectful to me the whole way.

He raised his points to me regarding the situation, and I let him know where I agreed and disagreed. I also gave him general advice as to what I felt he should do about everything, which I will repeat out here.

Niko wanted to show me proof that Melissa had seen his Twitter DMs in December 2022, and hadn't just found that group of DMs in "the Other Messages folder" in March 2023, as it appears she was claiming. Indeed, Niko send me some fairly convincing proof that, yes, Melissa did see those messages at the time they were sent (December 2022), and didn't just find them in March 2023 as she was calling him out.

However, I told Niko that this was a minor detail, and unimportant. Whether Melissa was accurate regarding when she found some particular messages is irrelevant. The bottom line is that:

1) Niko sent Melissa unsolicited messages on two platforms (Twitter and Instagram) over a substantial period of time.

2) Melissa never responded to him.

3) Melissa blocked him on one of the platforms, and he kept messaging her on the other, despite it being clear from the block that she didn't want to hear from him.

4) He made some gross sexual remarks in some of the messages, such as "I want to lick your butthole".

5) He did identify himself as schizophrenic in one of the messages, and said he would "cancel everyone", which I could see being read as an implied threat.

6) It is reasonable to assume that Melissa was scared/unnerved/worried about Niko's messages which didn't seem to be stopping.


At the same time, I'll say this in his defense:

1) He did not appear to have said anything directly threatening at any point.

2) He did not appear to send any obscene pictures.

3) He did not call her at any point.

4) He did not appear to have stalked her in person at any point. She claims that he "sat at her table" one time at Wynn, but that's meaningless. Given that they are both poker pros, it's not unreasonable to believe he could appear in the same cash game at some point. It's also claimed that he stalked her at WSOP, but I have not seen convincing evidence that it was anything more than him just being present in the same hallway. Lots of people who dislike me are in the same hallway as me at WSOP, but I'm definitely not stalking them (nor are they stalking me!)



Did Niko act inappropriately and creepy with those barrage of messages? Yes.

Was Melissa reasonable to worry about the guy, and think he might be a threat? Again, yes.


However, this has escalated far beyond where it needed to go.

I have advised Niko to let this go, and to move on with his life. He seems to want to fully clear his name, win a civil suit against her, and achieve other remedies for himself. I told him that none of that is realistic.

The bottom line is that he repeatedly messaged a woman, did not get a response, kept messaging over a period of months, occasionally wrote obscene things, and even kept messaging after he got blocked on one of his accounts. There is no way for him to win in the court of public opinion, given all of that.

Niko's position is that he feels Melissa lied about him, both in her public statements and in court. Even if that's the case, the bottom line is that Melissa did not ask for any of this, and the situation occurring in the first place was his fault. I explained to him that, even if she embellished anything in court, it was likely due to fear of otherwise not getting the restraining order granted, which she felt she needed for her safety.

I told him that the best thing he can do is move on from this, not let it eat him up inside, stop talking about it publicly, and make it clear to everyone that he's never making contact with her again, and forgetting she exists.



I also told Niko that, while there's a zero point zero chance he will ever win a civil case against her, he does have a chance of overturning the restraining order. In my non-lawyerly opinion, this one could have gone either way, given that there were no threats, no visits, no phone calls, and it appears he was never explicitly told to stop messaging her, until the night she called him out. Additionally, there seems to be little evidence that his presence at the WSOP was anything more than him simply being there to play tournaments. I told him he could contact attorneys in Vegas to see if he has a viable path to overturning it.

I stated that, if he does get it overturned, his next step should be going to the poker directors of the rooms where he's banned, explaining that he has no desire to do anything but keep his head down and play cards, and promise never to speak to her if they're in the room at the same time. Perhaps they will give him another chance.



Bottom line is that Niko needs to get past this. He's made some mistakes, and what's done is done. He can let this destroy him inside, or he can take responsibility for his actions, seek to minimize the damage, and move forward. I hope he does the latter. I told him this on the phone multiple times.

Finally, to the troll who has been hassling him, my suggestion is to drop it. You are just enflaming the situation and making it worse for everyone. I'm hoping you can just leave this alone, and hopefully Niko will decide on his own to take the correct actions going forward.

I will say that in our long conversation, Niko never once expressed any desire to ever talk to or see Melissa ever again. I think if he simply lets it go (or alternately, uses the legal system to challenge the restraining order), he can heal much faster.

Good luck.

Well I agree with most of what Druff said.

He did send her a dick pic though. That’s offensive.

However, Niko has not listened at all. He’s gone full retard.

At some point there may be further legal consequences for him. Oh well. He doesn’t want to own up to his mistakes of harassing someone who never responded to him. His X feed that he doesn’t allow responses to is wild.

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Most of his messages to her weren't sexual in nature. They were rants about various topics, combined with repeated proclamations regarding how he and Melissa would be perfect together.

But occasionally he did get sexual:

https://twitter.com/RobKuhn_/status/1641259023658803200

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Just found this thread and on page 1...

I don't know. Maybe a just have good timing but I literally stopped the video 3 times. First nothing. Second time comments about "skullfucking" her. Third time multiple comments about licking her butthole. I didn't need to stop the video for a fourth time as It's clear this person is not mentally stable or on some sex registry.

Why is there not a single post about whether Melissa is actually fuckable or not? I haven't been able to figure out whether she's attractive now for years. Someone help me out.

On a side note, this is officially my first post on the forum... since the Neverwinpoker days. I hope to bring as much or more solid content in everything I post moving forward.

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Why is there not a single post about whether Melissa is actually fuckable or not? I haven't been able to figure out whether she's attractive now for years. Someone help me out.

On a side note, this is officially my first post on the forum... since the Neverwinpoker days. I hope to bring as much or more solid content in everything I post moving forward.

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Solid 7.5 prob lanky outlifts 80 percent of this site.

Anyhow, my man Niko has determined his IQ is 51 and that he is owed 3 million dollars because of the dick pics and harassment he sent and did.

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Originally Posted by VegasSpider

Why is there not a single post about whether Melissa is actually fuckable or not? I haven't been able to figure out whether she's attractive now for years. Someone help me out.

On a side note, this is officially my first post on the forum... since the Neverwinpoker days. I hope to bring as much or more solid content in everything I post moving forward.

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Solid 7.5 prob lanky outlifts 80 percent of this site.

Anyhow, my man Niko has determined his IQ is 51 and that he is owed 3 million dollars because of the dick pics and harassment he sent and did.

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I agree with the outlifts part completely.

My gut tells me she's like a 5.5 masquerading as a 7... and I want her to be kinda cooler and sluttier than I think she actually is. She comes off fairly personable on the podcast but then ive seen other stuff where it seems like shes got an absolutely SHIT TON of like abuse-type baggage... where i really wonder if there's just a ton of male hating energy there.... which no one can fucking tolerate at this point.

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Originally Posted by VegasSpider

Why is there not a single post about whether Melissa is actually fuckable or not? I haven't been able to figure out whether she's attractive now for years. Someone help me out.

On a side note, this is officially my first post on the forum... since the Neverwinpoker days. I hope to bring as much or more solid content in everything I post moving forward.

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Solid 7.5 prob lanky outlifts 80 percent of this site.

Anyhow, my man Niko has determined his IQ is 51 and that he is owed 3 million dollars because of the dick pics and harassment he sent and did.

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Here’s the thing in poker, because it’s male dominated, average looking women (not judging Melissa) get way more attention than in the real world and it goes to their heads. I call it the Berkeley effect. When I was at Cal, they didn’t have a lot of hot chicks. Due to the lack of 8s and 9s, the 6s and 7s had a lot of options, and in high school they hadn’t had the experience of guys fawning all over them, so their egos had a field day.

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Solid 7.5 prob lanky outlifts 80 percent of this site.

Anyhow, my man Niko has determined his IQ is 51 and that he is owed 3 million dollars because of the dick pics and harassment he sent and did.

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Here’s the thing in poker, because it’s male dominated, average looking women (not judging Melissa) get way more attention than in the real world and it goes to their heads. I call it the Berkeley effect. When I was at Cal, they didn’t have a lot of hot chicks. Due to the lack of 8s and 9s, the 6s and 7s had a lot of options, and in high school they hadn’t had the experience of guys fawning all over them, so their egos had a field day.

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I know you weren't speaking of her specifically, but yeah i agree with this completely actually as it applies to her. I think she's definitely average and I absolutely would be fawning all over her in general in a poker setting .... and the amount of attention that she must get amidst the goofballs on that podcast etc. ... well this thread is a good example of it.

Lol druff now playing nurse maid and coddling socially maladjusted retards that are younger than him instead of his usual elderly clientele.

We all have a type.