From The Penthouse To The Poorhouse: A WillieMcFuckMyLife Saga

my choices are the following:

I can call my doc monday and hope he ups my methadone dose to 50mg per day to keep me stable. And then hopefully find a pharmacy that can fill the script.

I can stretch out the remaining 115mgs of methadone I have until Friday and then use the weekend to go cold turkey (it won't be enough and i'll feel like shit the majority of the time)

Stretch out the remaining methadone, go cold turkey for a day or two next weekend and then start on the 4 suboxones i have, and call one of the docs in my area to setup an appointment and get a script for those. there are several in my area.

if i had a week off of work my plan would be just go cold turkey with the help of my parents, and not rely on any pharmaceuticals but that's not really an option right now

one thing i can't do is just continue using. even if i wanted to i don't have the cash to keep going (i took a shot with the last i had trying to run it up and it didn't go well)

either way, judgement day is coming and it's going to be painful

f i had a week off of work my plan would be just go cold turkey with the help of my parents, and not rely on any pharmaceuticals but that's not really an option right now


This seems best. You can't make up a white lie and get a week off? 1 week off to start on the path of wellness seems better than the alternative

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Originally Posted by big dick

f i had a week off of work my plan would be just go cold turkey with the help of my parents, and not rely on any pharmaceuticals but that's not really an option right now


This seems best. You can't make up a white lie and get a week off? 1 week off to start on the path of wellness seems better than the alternative

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i just started two months ago and have already taken a few days off being dope sick

Getting well should probably supercede anything else, including your job.What good is the job if your spending $500+ a week on dope + all the other negative shit it brings.

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Originally Posted by Sanlmar

Only Druff can be perfect AND interesting.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

it happens.

that brand of shame spiral will keep you getting high infinite btw.

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EXACTLY!

It ain't about being a winner or a loser Willie, you have to stop thinking in those kinds of terms.

This is literally about life and death! There is no shame in wanting to live. You ain't the first good person to get hooked on that shit, and you definitely won't be the last. I honestly respect anyone that can beat that shit. We ALL make mistakes dude. You're a good guy. Deal with the horrible 2 weeks, beat it, move on and live your life the best that you can.

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I actually agree that you should keep people at work from finding out about this, if possible.

If you have no other choice, then tell them. For example, if the choice is between being seen as either an irresponsible flake or a drug addict who is trying to recover, go with the latter.

But if you can get this sorted out while still holding down the job normally, I would go with that option.

You're in a bad spot, but it could be worse. At least you're still employed.

GL

leaving this up because i don't wants vegas' rep to go without comment (plop said he commented without reading and wanted to delete his post)

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i owe you $350 from the $250 i borrowed (sick $100 juice) and another member from this board $250

i have borrowed from both of you several times and have always managed to pay on time or early w/ interest

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Well, at least we can get a good laugh knowing that PLOP thinks he's only feeding a gambling addiction with a 40% vig.

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Originally Posted by vegas1369

Well, at least we can get a good laugh knowing that PLOP thinks he's only feeding a gambling addiction with a 40% vig.

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Was gonna drop it, but i guess Willie wants it to stick so it doesn't look like he's hiding anything. Me charging 40% vig simply isn't true. On November 7th, Willie asked for $150 on paypal and said he would pay back Friday, which I sent right away w/no questions. This was fairly standard as we had done it several times in the past and he'd pay me back the same day with a little on top as a thank you (in this particular case he was asking for a little longer, which I assumed had to do with cashing a paycheck or something since I knew he had a new job).

On November 11th Willie asked if he could have $100 more until Friday, which again I sent right away. The next day he asked me what's the juice. I said $30 is fair given length of time and amount, to which he responded by calling me a jew (fair enough) and said I always made sure I had the best of it (again, fair enough). I told him "I mean, $25 would be fine".

On Friday November 13th I messaged him saying "Thank god it's Friday". He messaged back saying "Could you keep the juice running for two weeks for $100?". I agreed.

On Friday November 27th I messaged him saying "Alright buddy..." and Willie says "will send you something monday but i don't have it all. in a bad spot. sorry,".

I was not made aware of any drug relapse or any of this until I decided to browse this forum (which I don't visit as often) on my own and opened up this thread. I read the first post and assumed he probably borrowed from a lot of people and that I was probably one of the smaller loaners. This doesn't appear to be the case, but it's what I naturally thought at first glance. But to say that I charged you $100 vig on a $250 loan simply isn't accurate.

I haven't read whole thread because you picked Ohio State Michigan day and I'm in the bag. In the short term, off that list, I'd definitely appeal to my doctor given you already have a relationship with him. He'll want you to keep a job and be productive. He won't like it, but assuming you're not also on a benzo script, might help you for that mg. Obviously methadone scares the shit out of them because of how slow it needs ramped up, but if he believes you on a personal level where your tolerance is already at, that would be the far better option. If he does, put your head down, soldier on, and start a really long slow wean. I'd appeal to him that he can start weaning you back every month slowly if it makes him more comfortable. Clearly you're back in the grind now and pain is coming some day, but better when you're weaned down to a few mgs and have job security.

Assuming he doesn't go for it:


What do you need in the short term to not wreck your life? Like methadone wafers or suboxone? I know a lot of people with take homes but its all liquid long timers. I obviously can't ship that. I wish this was 5 years ago when I had access to all that shit around me all the time. I can text a few people and see tomorrow. What is preferrable and how much do you need to bridge you over? Is that even an option or would it be too long a process? If your doctor is a dick, do you have access to a clinic that will ramp you up to 50ish over a month or so? I know wafers and suboxone float around, but I don't know that they flow in a consistent manner that you can rely on. If I can find them, what $ should I be paying to not get ripped off?
I'll pm you tomorrow if I can find them. I'm probably going to get a so and so has 2 of this and 3 of that and will be a waste of time, but maybe I'll get lucky.

Just keep your head up. You fucked yourself, and it's miserable, but you will get through it. Head down, lose the circle of people once youre on right track, and just be productive.

Honestly, you're too smart for that world. Bunch of people chain smoking talking about how the world has fucked them all day. Once you get on program, wake up, dress well, go to work and forget those fucking people exist.

For me, casino pits and drugs will grab me in a big way if my head is fucked. If I'm down, that shit wrecks me, and you pay for it for months after. Its always insane, because it isn't sustainable if youre not Keith Richards. No one can fade the expense long term health risks aside

if you cant forgive a junky a few hundred dollars in debt, you have not played the cards life has dealt you well.

here is the actual convo which went a little differently as plop said





and i do feel like he squeezes me, like "he always has to get the best of it"

i made several bets with him always giving him an edge cause i just like to gamble. he's made over $2.5k in these bets

and when i first started my habit i was getting cash advances off my credit card bu using plop to send me paypal i could convert to cash - we did dozens of these where he made hundreds of dollars by doing nothing. he would literally send back money i sent him (minus a VIG of course), where he never even had to use his own money cause i sent first

and now when he knows i'm busted, tries to squeeze me for $10 more dollars on a loan of 4 days?? when i offered him a more than fair $20?

the other person from here which i considered a friend never asked for a penny interest (even though i always sent him more)

i don't know, just thought it was kind of a dick move from someone who has already made a chunk of money off me


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and the "maybe, maybe not" in the chat was me joking (at least at the time)

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vegas1369: Not charging Willie 40% vig rep

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lol, just 39%

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Originally Posted by WillieMcFML

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vegas1369: Not charging Willie 40% vig rep

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lol, just 39%

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The 39% was a joke (which you knew). $30 divided by $250 is 12%. Also if you scroll down more and screenshot the rest, you'll see I said $25 was fine after you tried to guilt trip me for asking for $30 on a loan (which still hasn't been paid back). And fwiw you only made this thread after your "mystery friend" finally got you to admit what the many small loans were really for.

As far as charging more vig than you'd like on a sports bet, I'm not booking multi-thousand dollar sports bets for you (which you are picking, not me) as an act of charity. Sorry if there was confusion there. The fact that I won the bet is irrelevant.

But don't worry, I've already been informed that I'm not getting anything on Monday and that I'm "real classy" for posting here.

 

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Originally Posted by PLOL

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Originally Posted by WillieMcFML

lol, just 39%

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The 39% was a joke (which you knew). $30 divided by $250 is 12%. Also if you scroll down more and screenshot the rest, you'll see I said $25 was fine after you tried to guilt trip me for asking for $30 on a loan (which still hasn't been paid back). And fwiw you only made this thread after your "mystery friend" finally got you to admit what the many small loans were really for.

As far as charging more vig than you'd like on a sports bet, I'm not booking multi-thousand dollar sports bets for you (which you are picking, not me) as an act of charity. Sorry if there was confusion there. The fact that I won the bet is irrelevant.

But don't worry, I've already been informed that I'm not getting anything on Monday and that I'm "real classy" for posting here.

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no one made me make this thread, and my "mystery friend" is only not named out of respect for him. he is welcome to jump in at any time.

it sucks cause i thought we were legitimately friends, but you only care about getting an edge

confirmed plol is a jew

just wanna say plop isn't to blame here. He was nice enough to loan me money when I needed it and I am late paying him

regardless of terms or whatever

Get better soon, buddy. Rooting for you