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You mean a gay black man from New Jersey for President is not going to resonate nationwide? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
about a year ago, i said on pfa this would be just an atrocious ticket for the democrats and still believe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
It's not to most people. First I've heard any party hard liner come out and say it publicly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian BobWhy is this such a revelation? The DNC and Podesta emails clearly spelled that out in 2016. Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile were basically fired from their jobs because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Worked out OK for the black guy from Illinois.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian BobYou mean a gay black man from New Jersey for President is not going to resonate nationwide? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
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Originally Posted by blakeabout a year ago, i said on pfa this would be just an atrocious ticket for the democrats and still believe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
a year ago, the nation wasnt facing the awesome prospect of detoxing from donald trump.
things have changed.
You understand Hillary and Liz hated each other, correct? Now that Hillary has stated she is done with politics, 'ol Liz comes out swinging. Where was Liz in 2016 with her opinion? She is quite the maverick for sure. She and Bob Corker and Jeff Flake need to get a room and have a threesome. They are real tough politicians when it no longer matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyIt's not to most people. First I've heard any party hard liner come out and say it publicly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian Bob
generally, i think what you're saying makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian BobHuh? If the economy is strong in 2020, Trump is going to roll. People just don't understand politics and voters. Reelections last 30+ years:Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Carter 1980 Economy Sucked: Lost
Reagan 1984 Economy Good: Won
Bush Sr 1992 Economy Sucked: Lost
Clinton 1996 Economy Good: Won
Bush 2004 Economy Good: Won
Obama 2012 Economy Improving: Won
If the economy is strong in 2020, Trump is going to coast. That is just the way it is. You people missed the handbook.
the only problem i see with this for trump is that he won the states he needed to win by around 80,000 votes. however, in 2016, every trump voter was super super enthusiastic about him, while the liberal vote was super super low cause hillary is reptilian.
it's hard for me to imagine that people that didn't vote for trump in 2016, will decide to vote for him in 2020. whose mind is going to be changed by his presidency? if you were a never-trumper cause you thought he's crazy, will your mind be changed by his presidency?
on the flip side, liberals are so outraged by trump, that they could probably put up mr. potato head and can get a much bigger turnout than hillary did
i truly hope the dems put up people slightly less establishyQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
a year ago, the nation wasnt facing the awesome prospect of detoxing from donald trump.
things have changed.
1) He was not gayQuote:
Originally Posted by DalyWorked out OK for the black guy from Illinois.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian Bob
2) The economy was imploding in 2008
3) First Black President
Obama was in the right place at the right time. To the same degree so was Trump.
People vote with their bank accounts and job security. Very few people watch CNN or read blogs. Those that do, already made up their minds years ago. If the economy is strong, Trump will sleepwalk to reelection, just like Reagan and Clinton. Even in a terribly unpopular war with Iraq, Bush still beat Kerry in 2004 because the stock market and housing market were roaring.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakegenerally, i think what you're saying makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian Bob
the only problem i see with this for trump is that he won the states he needed to win by around 80,000 votes. however, in 2016, every trump voter was super super enthusiastic about him, while the liberal vote was super super low cause hillary is reptilian.
it's hard for me to imagine that people that didn't vote for trump in 2016, will decide to vote for him in 2020. whose mind is going to be changed by his presidency? if you were a never-trumper cause you thought he's crazy, will your mind be changed by his presidency?
on the flip side, liberals are so outraged by trump, that they could probably put up mr. potato head and can get a much bigger turnout than hillary did
Case in point, George Bush SR in 1991 after the Iraq war #1 was at 91% approval nationwide. A record. He was stomped in 1992 because the economy went into a severe recession and people lost their jobs.
Trump will win in 2020 if people earlier that year are going on vacations and buying new cars. It's that simple. If the economy stinks he could have unified North and South Korea without a shot being fired and nobody will give a shit and he will lose.
Bush the Elder lost because of Perot.
The reason Perot ran and had a following was because the economy was in recession.Quote:
Originally Posted by GambleBotsSatire
i actually think tax cuts might help him get reelected but i have no faith he can get them passed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian BobPeople vote with their bank accounts and job security. Very few people watch CNN or read blogs. Those that do, already made up their minds years ago. If the economy is strong, Trump will sleepwalk to reelection, just like Reagan and Clinton. Even in a terribly unpopular war with Iraq, Bush still beat Kerry in 2004 because the stock market and housing market were roaring.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
Case in point, George Bush SR in 1991 after the Iraq war #1 was at 91% approval nationwide. A record. He was stomped in 1992 because the economy went into a severe recession and people lost their jobs.
Trump will win in 2020 if people earlier that year are going on vacations and buying new cars. It's that simple. If the economy stinks he could have unified North and South Korea without a shot being fired and nobody will give a shit and he will lose.
you might be right that anti-trumpers will look the other way if the economy is good, but i truly think the absolute hatred that half the country has towards him is unprecedented. imo he'll need to expand his base a little to win.
or just go up against a booker/warren ticket and he'll be fine.
Ross Perot was the man!!!
Oh really? As someone who considers himself "Jewish" maybe the fact that he was affiliated with Anti Semites might anger you a bit? Maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Or maybe, I should call you Vegas the Head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggWz4tDAwkE
If NZ doesn't work out why not join us in Canada?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
I scored 20% over the point threshold. I've done my homework; apparently I made some sound career choices.
Their new policy on housing ownership gives me a bit of pause, granted...
Gotta give you credit, you've made more sense in the past few pages of this thread than all your dupes combined have made in the history of these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian BobWhy is this such a revelation? The DNC and Podesta emails clearly spelled that out in 2016. Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile were basically fired from their jobs because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Hey guys? That Jenna Abrams chick on twitter? The one who constantly gets retweeted by every right wing cunt from Milo to InfoWars to Breitbart?
Yeah no big deal or anything, but she doesnt exist; shes another Russian sock puppet being run out of St Petersburg.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jenna-...-and-the-world
Change "liberal" to "retardo-conservative" and that sounds a lot like Donny T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Trump won the election because he was the best man for the job!
Please god, please, please, convince libtards to nominate Hillary Clinton for Presidential candidate, im betting my entire 401k on President Trump if that happens, please god 1 time.
KEK MAKE IT HAPPEN
FEELS SO GOOOOD
Oh gee guess what fucktards
Paul Manafort is likely to walk free from all 12 charges, or at the very least the charges will be reduced to misdemeanors according to a high ranking official at the Department of Justice.
Looks like the FBI was so orgasmic about busting into Maniforts house, that they illegally seized documents and other assorted non relevant items outside of the scope of the Muellers bullshit search warrant.
Basically in a nutshell, that means that any and all evidence based on documents outside the scope of the warrant will quickly be deemed inadmissible in court, and Manaforts attorney will obv jump all over it.
Sorry about that liberal scum
YOU LOSE AGAIN
:lol4
#MAGA
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Originally Posted by Tyde
https://youtu.be/qi1LMIUOOAI
:lol4
When will they learn, it's all a rope a dope, Hillary will go to jail, the wall will be built, we will have a better insurance system, the tax code will be better, and America WILL BE GREAT AGAIN
#MAGA
#DEALWITHIT
#OUTRIGHT
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Is it your life goal to prove how fucking stupid you are in every post you make? There are some reports that some evidence may have been seized that would be protected under attorney client privilege but was returned quickly. That gives Manafort's legal team an argument they can make, it does not mean that the entire investigation was compromised and that Manafort will walk free or have all charges reduced. You make assertions like you think you know anything about the law. and ALex Jones and InfoWars are really not great sources of information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyde
Liberal scum? LOL Please explain to us how you are a poster boy of conservative virtue. You haven't even filed taxes in 15 years LOL. You are a fucking joke of a wannabe conservative.
The source of the story...Quote:
Originally Posted by hutmasterIs it your life goal to prove how fucking stupid you are in every post you make? There are some reports that some evidence may have been seized that would be protected under attorney client privilege but was returned quickly. That gives Manafort's legal team an argument they can make, it does not mean that the entire investigation was compromised and that Manafort will walk free or have all charges reduced. You make assertions like you think you know anything about the law. and ALex Jones and InfoWars are really not great sources of information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyde
Liberal scum? LOL Please explain to us how you are a poster boy of conservative virtue. You haven't even filed taxes in 15 years LOL. You are a fucking joke of a wannabe conservative.
http://truepundit.com/doj-says-manaf...le-indictment/
...from the author Investigative Bureau, if that is his real name. An unnamed source from a known shit site where most of the authors don't even bother using government names, seems legit. They've been around since march 2016. Dunno who pays for the operation. Today it's possible that their clickbait journalism gets enough hits with mongs feeding them money through patreon that it might be enough (doubt it though).
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Originally Posted by hutmasterIs it your life goal to prove how fucking stupid you are in every post you make? There are some reports that some evidence may have been seized that would be protected under attorney client privilege but was returned quickly. That gives Manafort's legal team an argument they can make, it does not mean that the entire investigation was compromised and that Manafort will walk free or have all charges reduced. You make assertions like you think you know anything about the law. and ALex Jones and InfoWars are really not great sources of information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyde
Liberal scum? LOL Please explain to us how you are a poster boy of conservative virtue. You haven't even filed taxes in 15 years LOL. You are a fucking joke of a wannabe conservative.
awwwww David its so cute how 100% of your posts and reps are dedicated to me now
hey do yourself a big favor and go back to slinging your shitty, soggy, overpriced pizza
while you're at it, get on some kind of diet regiment and quit smoking before your morbidly obese fat ass keels over from a massive coronary
warm regards you fucking tilt case
'intellectual giant' ^^
:lol4
Aww poor Marty is too stupid to defend his lack of intellectual thought so he must lash out. You couldn't win a debate against my pet rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by TydeQuote:
Originally Posted by hutmaster
awwwww David its so cute how 100% of your posts and reps are dedicated to me now
hey do yourself a big favor and go back to slinging your shitty, soggy, overpriced pizza
while you're at it, get on some kind of diet regiment and quit smoking before your morbidly obese fat ass keels over from a massive coronary
warm regards you fucking tilt case
this guy is the worst
I see Team retard has now resorted to believing flat out lies to support their case...
:lol2
Standard Trumpkins.
And the ramblings continued.
The President of your country just started a tweet with "Poconhontas". Great again.
https://www.politico.com/agenda/stor...bracket-000570
This is really interesting and I dont quite know what to make of it.. but apparently if you earn over a million, the next 200k gets taxed really fucking heavily.
Obviously this is being framed as some revolutionary blow to the wealthfags but when you think about it, taxing the next 200k is fairly fucking meaningless because I'm guessing the number of people who earn more than $1m a year but less than $1.2m a year is ludicrously small. So taxing an extra 90k out of a $3m executive bonus = :whofuckingcares
A response to Trump's twitter getting suspended:
"It's almost like Twitter is a casual social media site & not a secure platform the president should use to discuss policy on a whim at 3am."
I tried to like this a million times but twitter wouldn't let me.
(stupid platform)
It was my first laugh of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiganer
If true, the reason evidence would be inadmissible is because of activist liberal Supreme Court justices like earl warren. You're welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyde
Not to mention his conservative heroes on the Supreme Court have been chipping away at the protections against warrantless search and seizure for a couple decades now.Quote:
Originally Posted by hutmasterIs it your life goal to prove how fucking stupid you are in every post you make? There are some reports that some evidence may have been seized that would be protected under attorney client privilege but was returned quickly. That gives Manafort's legal team an argument they can make, it does not mean that the entire investigation was compromised and that Manafort will walk free or have all charges reduced. You make assertions like you think you know anything about the law. and ALex Jones and InfoWars are really not great sources of information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyde
Liberal scum? LOL Please explain to us how you are a poster boy of conservative virtue. You haven't even filed taxes in 15 years LOL. You are a fucking joke of a wannabe conservative.
Says the drunken homeless grifting tax evader.Quote:
Originally Posted by TydeQuote:
Originally Posted by hutmaster
awwwww David its so cute how 100% of your posts and reps are dedicated to me now
hey do yourself a big favor and go back to slinging your shitty, soggy, overpriced pizza
while you're at it, get on some kind of diet regiment and quit smoking before your morbidly obese fat ass keels over from a massive coronary
warm regards you fucking tilt case
'intellectual giant' ^^
:lol4
i notice that somehow we have magically become distracted from the fact that the trump tax plan is such an egregious attempt at wealth insulation that even the CEO of Goldman Sachs is raising his hands and backing away from it.
And Perot made a very strong case against the passage of NAFTA, something Poppy Bush was pushing very strong for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scandinavian BobThe reason Perot ran and had a following was because the economy was in recession.Quote:
Originally Posted by GambleBotsSatire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls&feature=youtu.be
(Pssst! Remind you of anyone???)