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who tf made you the arbiter of moralism? you’re even slimier than step.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
You can always ask but being opportunistic for the sake of being opportunistic is weak. If you lost your job, became sick, etc it’s one thing, but this isn’t that.Quote:
Originally Posted by OSA
Landlord is in a mortgage too.Quote:
Originally Posted by OSABut I'm going to be losing money too. I count on my commission to pay for shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
Sooner than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
People may kill you for toilet paper.
Buy a gun before they run out.
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You should ask the families of the people that died of H1N1 while he was president. He pretty much sucked just as much as Trump, just sounded smarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dickBe honest. Would you rather Obama was in office right now at this exact moment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
"I take no responsibility for this."
-Donald J. Trump
hands down, the worst president of all time
Worse than Buchanan, come on man.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
give us your rankings texter
I had arguments on Twitter yesterday where some insisted that there isn't a higher demand for guns right now, and that people's fear of escalating violence is just my imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactorSooner than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
People may kill you for toilet paper.
Buy a gun before they run out.
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-cont...00,1200&w=1800
1. Barack Obama
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Bill Clinton
4. George Washington
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43. William Taft
44. Donald Trump
45. James Buchanan
Could have been earlier on the testing for sure but I have to admit I was still skeptical in January (when I most likely had it btw). Hard to say how this would have been handled if there was a different president. He also closed down travel from China fairly quickly and was mocked and called a racist for it. Pretty sure Biden even criticized him for it at the time. If he hadn’t done that we would probably be closer to Italy’s position now.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
As far as never admitting fault for anything, that’s one of the worst possible traits a leader can have. It’s been pure hell anytime I’ve worked under someone that never can admit they’re wrong and takes credit for the work of others. I can’t imagine working for him.
i don't really get the fears about violence. before it gets to that, the government would just print as much money as it needed toQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI had arguments on Twitter yesterday where some insisted that there isn't a higher demand for guns right now, and that people's fear of escalating violence is just my imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
argentina.
Obama appointed a political operative to handle the swine flu outbreak. He also appointed the incompetent Kathleen Sebelius in charge of Health and Human Services, and when she badly botched the Obamacare rollout, he didn't fire her. He also appointed Eric Shinseki to head the VA, who presided over the waiting list scandal, the thousands of deaths, and the ensuing coverup from a high level. Obama would not fire him either.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
this is totally correct. obama, a functional adult, would have not have listened to rush limbaugh instead of doctors and, by extension, would not have swept this under the rug for weeks because hes terrified of losing an election.
but yeah man who would have thought letting evangelicals and sundowning autists run the GOP would have these sorts of consequences.
You're assuming incorrectly that Obama would have appointed top people and then fired them if they fucked up.
I understand those fears.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakei don't really get the fears about violence. before it gets to that, the government would just print as much money as it needed toQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
People are unemployed and/or can't get supplies they need.
They know the people in the suburbs down the street likely have such supplies and maybe cash in the house too.
trump refused testing kits from the WHO when they were offered. you know why? cause he didn't want to scare the markets.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishCould have been earlier on the testing for sure but I have to admit I was still skeptical in January (when I most likely had it btw). Hard to say how this would have been handled if there was a different president. He also closed down travel from China fairly quickly and was mocked and called a racist for it. Pretty sure Biden even criticized him for it at the time. If he hadn’t done that we would probably be closer to Italy’s position now.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
As far as never admitting fault for anything, that’s one of the worst possible traits a leader can have. It’s been pure hell anytime I’ve worked under someone that never can admit they’re wrong and takes credit for the work of others. I can’t imagine working for him.
you know what else scares the markets? a 20% unemployment rate
trump is still pushing for CDC cuts in his proposed budget. how on earth are we not doubling our budget there?
oh and trump fired the entire US pandemic response team in 2018
trump never thought through the worse case scenarios and didn't take serious enough actions to stop the spread of this imo
i guess, though that's the way it is all the time. granted, you'll have more people unemployed but i am cautiously optimistic that the government will step inQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI understand those fears.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
People are unemployed and/or can't get supplies they need.
They know the people in the suburbs down the street likely have such supplies and maybe cash in the house too.
trump knows he has to get the economy working again and the dems are usually on board with giving out free money.
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Originally Posted by blaketrump refused testing kits from the WHO when they were offered. you know why? cause he didn't want to scare the markets.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
you know what else scares the markets? a 20% unemployment rate
trump is still pushing for CDC cuts in his proposed budget. how on earth are we not doubling our budget there?
oh and trump fired the entire US pandemic response team in 2018
trump never thought through the worse case scenarios and didn't take serious enough actions to stop the spread of this imo
Incorrect. Reorganizing a 400 person team is not firing the entire team.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...sponse-office/
It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017.
One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.
i honestly have no fucking idea what it would take for trump apologists to just accept that their leader is clearly an intellectual crippled grifte- ohhhhhhh.
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Originally Posted by blaketrump refused testing kits from the WHO when they were offered. you know why? cause he didn't want to scare the markets.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
you know what else scares the markets? a 20% unemployment rate
trump is still pushing for CDC cuts in his proposed budget. how on earth are we not doubling our budget there?
oh and trump fired the entire US pandemic response team in 2018
trump never thought through the worse case scenarios and didn't take serious enough actions to stop the spread of this imo
I don’t think he’s anymore qualified than my 4 year old to project worst case scenarios. He could have been lying in January to protect the markets but my take is that he was completely clueless at that time and really didn’t think this was a big deal. Interesting thing to me is at some point someone got through to him which is a miracle in itself. Usually when this dude makes up his mind there isn’t anyone around that he respects enough to change it. He went from hoax to national emergency in about a week. I like to picture one of his generals slapping the shit out of him until he came around.
Trump to suspend evictions, authorizes Defense Production Act to mobilize businesses to aid coronavirus responseQuote:
Originally Posted by OSAIf everyone is suffering, why are landlords exempt from the economic impact?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I will negotiate with my property management as such.
You cant raise my rent for the next 3 years.
I will pay 50%(Can negotiate to 75%) of my rent till July 1st or when I head back to work fulltime. Whichever comes first.
Considering the alternative and the fact that my roommate skipped out to go back to OK without even telling me and that shvartzas wont be paying them period for months and months, with no recourse, I think they will agree to this.
Of course this will be in writing and notarized.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1162641
The law, enacted in 1950, allows the president to force American businesses to produce materials in the national defense, such as ventilators and medical supplies for health care workers.
Why would anyone pay on their mortgage or pay rent right now? Especially if you are unemployed. If you have money, just set the money aside, just in case of emergency.Quote:
Trump also said his administration is "suspending all foreclosures and evictions until the end of April" to help those affected by the virus.
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Betsy Devos and Wilbur Ross p4p two of the worst appointments oat
2nd member of congress just tested positive.
#spyputs
Problem is, when that 90 day ban is lifted, they are going to either want all the back rent plus penalties or they'll get your ass out. I want neither of that happening, hence why I was open to making a deal with them but some call me slimey.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactorTrump to suspend evictions, authorizes Defense Production Act to mobilize businesses to aid coronavirus responseQuote:
Originally Posted by OSA
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1162641
The law, enacted in 1950, allows the president to force American businesses to produce materials in the national defense, such as ventilators and medical supplies for health care workers.
Why would anyone pay on their mortgage or pay rent right now? Especially if you are unemployed. If you have money, just set the money aside, just in case of emergency.Quote:
Trump also said his administration is "suspending all foreclosures and evictions until the end of April" to help those affected by the virus.
https://scdn.slashgear.com/wp-conten...e-1280x720.jpg
Oh and NYSE is going to close on Monday since 2 have tested positive
*the trading floorQuote:
Originally Posted by OSA
Best = Washington
Worst is a lot harder....many many awful presidents...Buchanan, W Bush, Trump, Carter, Johnson..oof
best news ive heard in a long time.
haha its usually easier to go from worst to firstQuote:
Originally Posted by Texter
lincoln, fdr, jfk, eisenhower
more like gayfgay. sorry, I prefer presidents that don't hard feed their first term
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Originally Posted by Krypt
winner
Didn't FDR lead us through a prolonged depression? Total loser. I like presidents who make the stock market go up, not down.Quote:
Originally Posted by OSAQuote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
winner
my list too just not in same orderQuote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
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Originally Posted by Forum WarsTrump has first briefing on this stuff earlier, here's where he basically starts his cure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Forum Wars
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ronavirus-test
POINT 1: Self Swab test will be forced past trials and become the de facto type of test for this -- he's cutting the red tape and making it happen.
POINT 2: an "exciting" briefing, later today (or maybe tomorrow) will discuss other methods for combatting this disease in those who are severe cases.
YOU CAN EXPECT: UNTESTED FOR THIS PURPOSE "off label" use of HIV and flu drugs...to get 100% approval
Key words: Chloroquine (anti-malarial), Lopinavir/ritonavir (HIV) Kaletra (basically the last two drugs together)
Finally, don't be surprised if Trump announces the US has bought one or two experimental drug companies and will be using the untested drugs from each on severe cases with NO "testing", i.e. the testing will be done at the same time as being administered to humans. Oh, he won't say it like that. Later he will, when he's in full bravado form from this working though. This would be so unprecendented in medical history, and of course, it could work. This is like the coach that tries something wild with one play on the clock. Win now spectacularly or lose anyway.
So, it's already begun...wow that was fast...
https://www.fiercepharma.com/vaccine...erna-doses-1st
Meanwhile, amid growing numbers of infections in the U.S., the FDA has allowed a phase 1 study of Moderna’s mRNA vaccine without animal data. On Monday, the biotech said researchers at the National Institutes of Health dosed the first subject.
Kinda unprecendented, even Ebola Vaccine (which is now a thing because of the same kind of shortcuts) didn't go SO fast.
In my lifetime, there has never been a more serious threat to national security than this crisis. This includes atomic espionage in the 1950's, the Cuban missile crisis, and 9/11. It's clear that unfairness will be an inevitable part of the government's response as it was during WWII. The idea of fairness to landlords simply doesn't matter as the government attempts to keep people from moving around and causing chaos by exacerbating the spread of the virus. Policies that promote "stay in place" stability are the only things that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffThe problem is that the government is trying to turn landlords into funders of housing welfare. Not fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnCommode
If da gubbmint is gonna make landlords hold onto freeloading renters (whether the freeloading is intentional or unintentional), then it should pay the landlords for this.
In many states, evictions take a long time. Right now in Los Angeles County, tenants have 6 months to pay rent before they can be evicted. This means someone who didn't pay their March 1 rent can't be evicted until September 1, and then it could take another several months for the eviction to go through -- especially with the court backlog at that point. It's not unrealistic that freeloaders could squeeze a year of free rent out of this.
As Trump would say, "Unfair!"
I thought this article contained some really good info. It's nearly a week old but fascinating in regard to real infection rates.
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca
There are other ways to go about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnCommodeIn my lifetime, there has never been a more serious threat to national security than this crisis. This includes atomic espionage in the 1950's, the Cuban missile crisis, and 9/11. It's clear that unfairness will be an inevitable part of the government's response as it was during WWII. The idea of fairness to landlords simply doesn't matter as the government attempts to keep people from moving around and causing chaos by exacerbating the spread of the virus. Policies that promote "stay in place" stability are the only things that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I'm not denying that some emergency measures need to take place.
However, you can't just disproportionately stuff this on the backs of landlords and tell them to take one for the team.
If the government wants to prevent a homeless problem from worsening the infection, they should guarantee the rent payments themselves during this time, and then establish some sort of repayment plan for these people on the back-end when this is all over, with zero interest and generous terms. Something like that.
Telling landlords, "You're stuck with these people not paying you any rent for a year, and they won't suffer any consequence for doing so" is basically giving all landlords a huge kick in the nuts. The government needs to take responsibility if they are going to demand something burdensome like this, but it seems like they're not going to. It's just, "Let these people live for free, now eat shit", and that's that.
Additionally, I am seeing that many people are resigned to the strategy of printing money as our way out of this economic mess.
I am horrified to see this.
Not just as a Jew who has dutifully saved money for all of my adult life, but also as an American who fears for the long term future of this country if we do this.
When has a country ever money-printed its way out of its problems? It leads to hyperinflation, which just compounds the problem, and the entire economic system collapses and remains a complete disaster zone for the long term. At best you escape from it with a major depression.
Laughably, the response to this concern is, "The money is going right back into the economy on goods and services", as if that will prevent hyperinflation from eventually taking hold.
It's not like we don't have countless other examples of countries that have tried this.
It seems that people are already giving up and throwing up their hands, without even considering other possible solutions to hold off economic collapse without resorting to money printing.
On the small bright side, the world may have luckboxed into a coronavirus drug earlier than expected.
An existing Japanese flu drug called favipiravir was found by Chinese officials to be "clearly effective" in speeding up recovery from the disease.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rus-says-china
However, it does look like you've got to catch it early for the drug to be effective. If the virus has already progressed to severe levels, it seems that the drug fails.
Still, if this is true, and if this can be produced quickly in mass quantities, people can take this drug quickly when they see symptoms, and it will bring down both the death rate and the infection rate.