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Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
How the fuck did i cherry pick?Quote:
Originally Posted by v12cl
I simply clicked on cases per million population. I was only curious after druffs post about infections based on population.
17 states on that list and what 5 are dem?... we must differ on simple terms like "most"
The only reason I checked the figures is because druff said this "California has one of the worst rates of infection presently."Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
I was simply curious.
California comes in 33rd according to worldometers. Half the figure of N&S Dakota.
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Originally Posted by big dick
The list didn't include #1 NJ and #2 NY or #6 Connecticut.
That is called cherry picking.
Druff is already doing the same as you, twisting my response around.Quote:
Originally Posted by v12clQuote:
Originally Posted by big dick
The list didn't include #1 NJ and #2 NY or #6 Connecticut.
That is called cherry picking.
This was about infection rates, nothing more.
And well 33rd is no way near the worst rate of infection.
For posterity the day this started you were at 226k. CDC Dec 31 update gives you 341k. 115k.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmickYea the 200k number was why i made the post. No idea on what the context of the number was. 80-120k seems about right. Your cases and deaths have been a mix of Sweden's and whole EU's trajectory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Meaning you case numbers never went too low but the deaths dipped hard in the warmer months after initial spikes in colder months.
In the cold the disease does two things, targets have lower immunity response and particles stay longer in the air. Bigger viral loads to softer targets. It's to be seen if that's enough to race to 100k, assuming most things stay roughly the same.
I didn't expect Thanksgiving to play out like it did, that was the only large scale event. It only affected the last week or two of death numbers.
Nothing specific was needed to get to 330k. Basically the opposite is true. Something were specific had to happen once you're at a certain trajectory for it to change course. Two months is a very short time span. And yes a lot of this is based on exponential growth.
You don't understand much about states like the dakotas or montana. Three-quarters of the cases in Montana come out of just 5 counties out of 56. Those are the counties where all the people live. The population of montana is packed into small areas. No one lives in the wide open spaces. You'll be happy to know that Petroleum County Montana has no active covid cases. Whoopeeeee!!! But....no one lives there, population 490.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
In the graph below you will see that we didn't have much of a problem until the weather turned and people started spending more time inside. I think people did get a little lax because we went thru several months of the virus not spreding much and....also thinking we were isolated from the big population centers. New cases started spiking upwards. It topped out Nov 20 with over 1500 cases in one day. It took a few weeks but the spike got everyones attention. Everybody doubled down on masks, social distancing and staying home as much as possible.
New cases have been dropping since late november with dec 31 having just 349 cases. On nov 20 there were 16K active cases. Today just 5.9K active cases. And this is just six weeks later. Now the vaccine is kicking in so we are looking for the numbers to continue to drop. As you can see in the graph new cases are steadily decreasing.
AND WE ARE DOING THIS WITHOUT SHUTTING DOWN THE ECONOMY.
Large land area, low population and isolated to a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou don't understand much about states like the dakotas or montana. Three-quarters of the cases in Montana come out of just 5 counties out of 56. Those are the counties where all the people live. The population of montana is packed into small areas. No one lives in the wide open spaces. You'll be happy to know that Petroleum County Montana has no active covid cases. Whoopeeeee!!! But....no one lives there, population 490.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
In the graph below you will see that we didn't have much of a problem until the weather turned and people started spending more time inside. I think people did get a little lax because we went thru several months of the virus not spreding much and....also thinking we were isolated from the big population centers. New cases started spiking upwards. It topped out Nov 20 with over 1500 cases in one day. It took a few weeks but the spike got everyones attention. Everybody doubled down on masks, social distancing and staying home as much as possible.
New cases have been dropping since late november with dec 31 having just 349 cases. On nov 20 there were 16K active cases. Today just 5.9K active cases. And this is just six weeks later. Now the vaccine is kicking in so we are looking for the numbers to continue to drop. As you can see in the graph new cases are steadily decreasing.
AND WE DID THIS WITHOUT SHUTTING DOWN THE ECONOMY.
Seriously mickey you're just reinforcing what I'm saying. Your rate of infection should be one of the lowest in the country, not the highest.
Who did you say was making this a left versus right thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
It was a sarcastic response. None the less totally accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmWho did you say was making this a left versus right thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
Our infection rate is dropping faster than anywhere else in the country. But in your ignorance you are certainly not going to give us any credit for that. That's because you perceive us as a red state. So....I'll let you in on a little secret, Mr. ideology. Montana has had a Democrat governor for the past 12 years. That's right, Mr. know it all. So you are right in your conclusion that the politicians fucked us into getting more covid cases than we deserve. But they were democrat politicians, not republican like you thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_AusLarge land area, low population and isolated to a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Seriously mickey you're just reinforcing what I'm saying. Your rate of infection should be one of the lowest in the country, not the highest.
No!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmOur infection rate is dropping faster than anywhere else in the country. But in your ignorance you are certainly not going to give us any credit for that. That's because you perceive us as a red state. So....I'll let you in on a little secret, Mr. ideology. Montana has had a Democrat governor for the past 12 years. That's right, Mr. know it all. So you are right in your conclusion that the Dems fucked us into getting more covid cases than we deserve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
I see you as a large land mass with a small population, that's somewhat isolated.... with the worst infection rate in the country.
Facts are facts!
Damn I quoted you again.
So fucking sorry.
Stats are from Worldometers.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Salty_AusNo!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I see you as a large land mass with a small population, that's somewhat isolated.... with the worst infection rate in the country.
Facts are facts!
On Dec 31 Montana had 349 new cases in a population of 1,068,778
349/1068778 = .00032654% of the population
On Dec 31 California had 37,555 new cases in a population of 39,512,223
37555/39512223 = .00095047% of the population
On Dec 31 New York had 15,393 new cases in a population of 19,453,561
15393/19453561 = .00079127% of the population
As you can see Montana had about a third the infection rate of California and New York yesterday. And we are still trending downwards. So your "facts" are all fucked up, dude.
PS I don't live in the wide open spaces. I live in an urban area like most Montanans.
You've already proven math ain't your strong suit in the past.
I'll trust the worldometer figures.
Do me a favour please. Ignore my posts in future.
Have a nice day. :)
One last thing.
Why the fuck was Montana brought into this argument?
North Dakota wins gold.
South Dakota takes the silver.
Montana hardly gets an honourable mention.
Salty, you do realize that cases per million is pretty meaningless, since it counts on testing, right?
Tests were difficult to come by in the first few months of the pandemic. Thus, areas more recently hit by COVID spikes -- especially low population areas -- will end up with falsely high cases per million number, compared to areas hit earlier.
Also, general test availability is also a factor. In congested areas, it can be hard to get a test even now. For example, Master Scalir was having a hard time finding a test in Los Angeles which was free, and only when I intervened and searched through a bunch of potential sites did I find one for him. I imagine a lot of people just say "fuck it" if it's too much trouble, and if they're not super sick.
In general, number of cases is only a rough estimate, and it's always too low. It should never be used to compare current COVID with early COVID, or do any overall comparisons.
Number of deaths, while also somewhat flawed, is the best figure to use for such comparisons. There you will see the NY area had it worst.
have you ever seen someone so obsessed with America than this Salty_Aus faggot?
rofl get a life dweeb
You do realize that nearly 50% of the population has been tested in North and South Dakota.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
California even higher its like 80%
Whatever dude I give up. California has the worst infection rate... you win.
Its half of that of N&S Dakota but bah.
Druff for POTUS
"Population has been tested"? Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty_AusYou do realize that nearly 50% of the population has been tested in North and South Dakota.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
California even higher its like 80%
Whatever dude I give up. California has the worst infection rate... you win.
Its half of that of N&S Dakota but bah.
Druff for POTUS
It matters when the tests were performed, not how many were done. Also, many people test multiple times.
There's no doubt the Dakotas are bad, but there were other terrible areas over the past year, and many of the worst weren't Republican-voting areas.
The worst death per million occurred in 3 blue states. I'll repeat that again.