Calling them a "disruption" rubs me the wrong way so badly
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Calling them a "disruption" rubs me the wrong way so badly
"Rest of us"
:lol2
Yea......
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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
LOL, how can you be this stupid, and not be a ward of the state.
He refers to trans people as disruption... it's not just about surgery. He didn't say, "hey, no surgeries." He said, you can all go fuck yourselves... the intention is clear...
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Originally Posted by The_LurkerQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
So is not being able to do a pullup, some people are not good choices for the military, but gender identity is not a automatic disqualifying factor.
Statistically, the military runs bad with people suffering from quantifiable mental defects. Not all transgender people have mental defects. But because we fail outright at even admitting the need to screen them pre-surgery, this becomes a pretty straight forward equity decision.
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Originally Posted by El Gallo
wait are you talking about trump or mintjewlips?
ohhh youre talking about trump. nm.
we should seriously have a "who said it: trump or mintjewlips" freeroll.
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Originally Posted by The_LurkerQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
LOL, how can you be this stupid, and not be a ward of the state.
How do you fracture your back that bad, yet still have the ability to type for hours posting psycho babble after psycho babble?
If you're going to level on a "7th tier poker site", be more creative. Cool story bro...
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Lurker
Statistically, the military runs bad with people suffering from quantifiable mental defects. Not all transgender people have mental defects. But because we fail outright at even admitting the need to screen them pre-surgery, this becomes a pretty straight forward equity decision.
what does this have to do with completely disqualifying them. Again two different discussions.
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Originally Posted by The_LurkerQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
what does this have to do with completely disqualifying them. Again two different discussions.
its weird that on a poker forum, i have to adultsplain the concept of equity / risk of ruin calculation to you.
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Originally Posted by MintjewlipsQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Lurker
How do you fracture your back that bad, yet still have the ability to type for hours posting psycho babble after psycho babble?
If you're going to level on a "7th tier poker site", be more creative. Cool story bro...
Right now about all I can do is lay in bed, so i have plenty of time to make you look stupid over and over again.
I want you to go reread my post, and I figure after the fifth time you read it, you will understand that I said "people who can't do a pullup are not a good fit for the military"
then feel free to astound us with your intellectual superiority.
Its not weird, you're dealing with literal retards in every sence of the word.
"Gender Reassignment" means your balls get chopped if you're a man, how fucking sane are you if you're that fucking confused about your "gender". And then the trauma they face after, i can't fucking imagine.
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Originally Posted by The_LurkerQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Right now about all I can do is lay in bed, so i have plenty of time to make you look stupid over and over again.
I want you to go reread my post, and I figure after the fifth time you read it, you will understand that I said "people who can't do a pullup are not a good fit for the military"
then feel free to astound us with your intellectual superiority.
The last thing i want to do is read your babble more then once, so if i misread it, then i apologize.
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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Again, trump didn't say this was for people getting their balls removed... this is for people that do not identify with their birth gender..: stop making it about people chopping their balls off
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Originally Posted by El GalloQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Again, trump didn't say this was for people getting their balls removed... this is for people that do not identify with their birth gender..: stop making it about people chopping their balls off
So you want people that are emotionally unstable to be in the military? Whether I agree with the trans-opperative community or not, it doesn't change the fact that these people are under a severe identity crisis, and you want them to have carte blanche to apply to the armed services?
My favorite thing about this morning is that mintjewlips thinks Bruce still has balls
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Lurker
its weird that on a poker forum, i have to adultsplain the concept of equity / risk of ruin calculation to you.
Would you rather have a smart well rounded well trained transgender soldier next to you in a fire fight or mintjewlips?
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by El Gallo
ill tell you why im not really freaking out about this.. virtually every aspect of life in america swings between two polarized opposites, culturally. right now, gender reassignment is the new prozac, if not the new aspirin. a lot of people are choosing reassignment surgery when what they really need is to get to the root of *why* they feel compelled to pursue it. and because we (the left) have decided that any effort to 'tap the breaks' in that process is intrusive, prejudiced fear and an infringement on personal liberty, a lot of people are making irrevocable mistakes that push them over the edge.
tl;dr: gender reassignment should be undertaken by people choosing to pursue it from a place of mental well being and stability, but we are telling people who crave mental well being and stability that gender reassignment can solve their problems. thats fucking disgraceful.
so yeah until we de-stigmatize the assertion that carving up your body and pumping it full of life-changing hormones should be an end not a mean, a lot of legitimately unbalanced people are going to end up in the queue.
so yeah im not entirely up in arms about this, pragmatically speaking. least of all because most trannies cant pass for shit.
Not exactly on solid ground when talking about tranny issues. But on what exact grounds are people being pushed to change their gender?
Would be interested to see the numbers of sex-change wannabes who happily reversed their decision after some counseling sessions.
I really have no idea what the process is. If gender confused male says he's a woman trapped in a man's body. Then that should be the end of it, right? What is there left to discuss?
The same way a man who has a natural urge to suck cock. That means he is gay. The end. There is no "root"
It wasn't too long ago when gays were subjected to all sorts of crazy treatments to cure them of their..... illness. Electric shock therapy being one of them.
Trannies shouldn't have to justify to anybody what they feel.
Let them be. Leave them be.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Would you rather have a smart well rounded well trained transgender solder next to you in a fire fight or mintjewlips?
ive rolled with smart, well rounded, well trained transgenders on many occasions in private sector/IT and never had occasion to regret it.
but anyone wanting to join the military.. thats a red flag out the gate. couple that with being a transgender and you have a pretty damning venn diagram, thats all im saying.
also lets be honest; if i ended up in a fire fight with mintjewlips next to me, i really have no one to blame but myself for my terrible, terrible life choices.
As for barring them from the armed forces. Well, this is Trump & Bannon we're talking about here.
This is just the beginning of the discrimination train.
Genuinely scary times if you aren't a white heterosexual right now.
Also heads up this has nothing to do with pragmatic concerns:
Quote from a Trump administration official:
“This forces Democrats in Rust Belt states like Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin, to take complete ownership of this issue. How will the blue collar voters in these states respond when senators up for re-election in 2018 like Debbie Stabenow are forced to make their opposition to this a key-plank of their campaigns?”
DoD/Pentagon was never even really consulted about this and had no idea this announcement was coming.
Tl;dr: It's a distraction from the healthcare debacle and a way to galvanize the right leaning centerists against Democrats in 2018.
If the conservatives can goat the dems into making this an election issue then the Dems didn't learn anything in 2016 and deserve another loss.
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Originally Posted by MintjewlipsQuote:
Originally Posted by El Gallo
So you want people that are emotionally unstable to be in the military? Whether I agree with the trans-opperative community or not, it doesn't change the fact that these people are under a severe identity crisis, and you want them to have carte blanche to apply to the armed services?
You are making most of them out to be crazy people that won't be able to fire a gun, or serve food, or be a mechanic or a medic.... I have transgender family and they are honestly tougher than most people I know. They've put up with idiots like you thinking they are less than their whole lives. I'd take your average trans person over a single minded meat head any day.
What could of been, damn.
Republicans voters are such suckers, you guys are a threat to this nation and all mankind.
To think there's really Republican voters who don't understand the joke's on them, sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv0C3X1GoPg
Factoid: 12% of Americans believe it is a good idea to throw millions off health insurance and give a tax cut to the rich.
FTR Fuck Chuck Schumer, vote him out.
I like how typed "solder" and NO one called him on it, but boy, get some overrated art fags name wrong and you nerds have a field day.
And lol at sonatine ever thinking the military would accept him, he would have to lose half his body fat to get in.
And l o muthafucking l at him not realizing he's already made terrible life choices.
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Originally Posted by El GalloQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
You are making most of them out to be crazy people that won't be able to fire a gun, or serve food, or be a mechanic or a medic.... I have transgender family and they are honestly tougher than most people I know. They've put up with idiots like you thinking they are less than their whole lives. I'd take your average trans person over a single minded meat head any day.
Crazy people can be all those things, aswell as computer programmers, like you.
I believe kid rock said it best “I don’t give a fuck if gay people get married. I don’t love anybody who acts like a fuckin’ faggot”.
It's the military you fucking moron, it's not the fucking YMCA, get over it you affluent mexican. Worry about your fucked up third world homeland that can't even get shit out of its water.
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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Hey now, its not my fault that the members of PFA can tell the difference between a typo and retarded.
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Originally Posted by The_LurkerQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Hey now, its not my fault that the members of PFA can tell the difference between a typo and retarded.
Yea you're pretty retarded.
You can go ahead and stop talking about me being Mexican like it's a bad thing. I'm born and raised in the United States. Someone being gay doesn't make them any less intelligent, strong or brave. So your argument is ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by MintjewlipsQuote:
Originally Posted by El Gallo
Crazy people can be all those things, aswell as computer programmers, like you.
I believe kid rock said it best “I don’t give a fuck if gay people get married. I don’t love anybody who acts like a fuckin’ faggot”.
It's the military you fucking moron, it's not the fucking YMCA, get over it you affluent mexican. Worry about your fucked up third world homeland that can't even get shit out of its water.
Also, the Mexican economy has never been better. Read a book
Fucking guy post a picture of all his old geezer buddies, as if anyone gives a fuck
:lol2
"Hey guys look at me and some old farts who used to be someone, now we're all here in our homo lodge jerking each other off"
:lol2
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Originally Posted by El Gallo
FOR WHO??!! Lmmfao
Wow, you need help.......oh i forgot, your parents have their own tequila factory.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Yep. Something to give his base to chew on while everything else is going to shit. That notwithstanding, it was an easy and rational decision.
This lady seems very mentally ill...
"Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy," Kristin Beck, a 20-year veteran of the Navy SEALs, told Business Insider on Wednesday. "Transgender doesn't matter. Do your service."
"Being transgender doesn't affect anyone else," Beck said. "We are liberty's light. If you can't defend that for everyone that's an American citizen, that's not right."
Beck is not just your average service member. Born Christopher Beck, she served for 20 years in the Navy with SEAL Teams 1, 5, and, eventually, the elite 6. She deployed 13 times over two decades, including stints in Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. She received the Bronze Star award for valor and the Purple Heart for wounds suffered in combat.
"I was defending individual liberty," she said. "I defended for Republicans. I defended for Democrats. I defended for everyone."
In a series of tweets, Trump said the decision was based on the costs of medical services that transgender service members could use. But "the money is negligible," Beck said. "You're talking about .000001% of the military budget.
"They care more about the airplane or the tank than they care about people," Beck said. "They don't care about people. They don't care about human beings."
When asked about potential problems with unit cohesion or war fighting, Beck said those were not issues that would arise from transgender service members, but from leadership.
"A very professional unit with great leadership wouldn't have a problem," Beck said. "I can have a Muslim serving right beside Jerry Falwell, and we're not going to have a problem. It's a leadership issue, not a transgender issue."
TRANSGENDER MUCH???
What a burden Kristin Beck was... glad trump is doing something about it. What an idiot.... I can't wait for the... "And some, I assume are good people"
Do you think that this person is unfit for duty?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristin_Beck
Thank you El Gallo
who gives a FK. Trump is our president cuz we're tired of hearing about making everything perfect for a small % of the population
:lol
In the 1960s a disturbed cult leader gathered a group of followers from the ranks of the disaffected. At first everything was fine. Later, after a prolonged binge of paranoia and antisocial behaviour, things exploded into violence, to trigger a race war and make the cult leader reign America unchallenged. It failed, but along the way innocents suffered and the cult members saw their IQ drop massively and many ended up in jail.
Trump is Manson in a suit.