Hey Stewart, is this true?Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
http://stopmasturbationnow.org/uncat...-masturbation/
Hey Stewart, is this true?Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
http://stopmasturbationnow.org/uncat...-masturbation/
You really need to learn how to use spoilers. FYPQuote:
Originally Posted by smithbkHey Stewart, is this true?Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
http://stopmasturbationnow.org/uncat...-masturbation/
Hmmm...this wasn't supposed to be live anymore, was it? Let the $5 PFA comments continue...
Lol irl...Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star"Todd...you need to get in on this. Im going to call these 'Apple Computers' "
http://www.donkdown.com/donkdown-rad...ry-greenstein/
At 256:30 Druff halts all Bitcoin talk to call out Micon on one of his other supposed bad ideas. Some goofy ass barcode thingy or whatever, Micon argues they're going to be everywhere, Druff pulls out his cock and basically pees all over Micon and his stupid fail obsessions.
Any of you guys ever see any of these things around?
Holy shit man, Micon tried to make you rich Druff.
That's not what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaLol irl...Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star"Todd...you need to get in on this. Im going to call these 'Apple Computers' "
http://www.donkdown.com/donkdown-rad...ry-greenstein/
At 256:30 Druff halts all Bitcoin talk to call out Micon on one of his other supposed bad ideas. Some goofy ass barcode thingy or whatever, Micon argues they're going to be everywhere, Druff pulls out his cock and basically pees all over Micon and his stupid fail obsessions.
Any of you guys ever see any of these things around?
Holy shit man, Micon tried to make you rich Druff.
Micon wanted us to paste those QR Codes all over the WSOP walls, in order to get new users to Donkdown.
At the time, very few people knew what those were, nor did they have a way to read them.
Micon rationalized, "Those nerdy kids, a lot of them know", but in reality we would have gotten very few, if any, new users from this, as QR Code readers just were on very few phones at that point.
And then we were risking someone at the WSOP getting angry about this, figuring out how to scan these themselves, and punishing us for unauthorized posting/littering.
So, yes, I pissed on the idea, and I still feel I was 100% correct to do so.
He was not offering me to buy in to any business related to QR Codes, or anything like that.
The only Micon obsession that I regret not following was bitcoin.
Micon's lawyer doing work...
http://i.imgflip.com/4jlws.jpg
Is anyone planning to take a vacation in Antigua this summer?
Who's available to pick up Micon at the airport Friday?
Last year, Willie spent a week living at McCarran like Tom Hanks in The Terminal while he waited for Drexel.
$5
Dread Pirate Roberts
2 days ago
see you on the yard! bros for life
:hof
Have to wonder if Micon has his lawyers negotiating during WSOP.
Let's say he somehow is negotiating just house arrest. Can he argue poker is his "livelihood" and still have a crack at the main event?
Plea deal.....agree to everything they have brought to the table, if your one and only condition is met.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
A seat at the November 9 final table and and a 60 minute interview with Mike Wallace(from his hospital bed)
lasting at least 30 seconds longer than Druff's.
Since Karina and Micon are no longer friends and she threw him under the bus the way she did, maybe there's a chance he has some nudes of her that he's been hawking for a while now...
Micon, create an account here and blow up some spots for old times sake!
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Originally Posted by simpdog
Given the prosecutions recent track record I dont think Micon's going to have to worry about house arrest.
Curious why you have become an authoritative figure on this? For a while now you have insisted Micon is never going to get any jail time. So with that said, why is he still holed up in a 3rd world country?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
Given the prosecutions recent track record I dont think Micon's going to have to worry about house arrest.
The statue is clear, 1 year minimum. Now I get the fact anything can be negotiated down, I am just curious on why you seem so matter of fact that any type of detention is so out of the realm of possibility. Clearly its not, otherwise he would getting ready for the WSOP now.
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Originally Posted by TonyCurious why you have become an authoritative figure on this? For a while now you have insisted Micon is never going to get any jail time. So with that said, why is he still holed up in a 3rd world country?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
The statue is clear, 1 year minimum. Now I get the fact anything can be negotiated down, I am just curious on why you seem so matter of fact that any type of detention is so out of the realm of possibility. Clearly its not, otherwise he would getting ready for the WSOP now.
You're 100% right, i was positive he was going to do PMITA prison time.
2 things changed my mind:
1) The charges are still state, the feds didnt get involved. Which says pretty clearly that this is de-escalating instead of the opposite.
2) I've been keeping an eye on the other gaming cases the prosecution is working and they are fucking up right and left. If they work out a plea with Micon they can tax his extremely well off family + Martha's extremely well off family with zero risk, which is important considering Nevada is broke as shit and its getting much, much worse every single year. If they go to trial and get their cased tossed like they did with the Wei Seng Phua debacle, careers are going to end.
And given that Phua's lawyers are Team Chesnoff, I mean, smart money is on a plea here, all the way.
Edit: maybe Micon will do a very minor stretch but Id be surprised, the state needs a re-up of cash more than it needs to pay Micon's room and board.
yeah but cant the argument made they do an Ulbricht on his ass and make an example out of micon to deter anybody else from thinking of doing something as stupid as setting up shop in the state of Nevada?
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Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis
Of course but I dont think they can afford to right now. I just dont see the wind blowing in that direction.
That was my thought. I just find it hard to fathom these suits held a press conference just to give a guy house arrest or less. They want to make a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis
I get the fact this is so small in the grand scheme of things. But the problem is Micon flaunted everything by walking into casinos decorated with Bitcoin and SWC ads.
If he operated quietly, this might have been solved quietly, but when you rub someone's noses into shit, they are going to be ruthless in kind.
Best not to take on the gaming industry in Nevada, this goes back to the 50s.
And those are totally valid points. Id not be terribly surprised if Im wrong.
But when I look at the situation beyond the egos of the Gaming lawyers, I see a bunch of people who should be legit concerned if they keep their jobs. The state needs money and they are fucking up, boldly.
Also remember Micon wasn't running the show behind the scenes. He was a glorified affiliate.
I'm leaning towards probation and no jail.
If he had no guilt, after 4 months since the raid, this would have been solved already. In fact he would probably be back in Vegas. Nobody bolts to a 3rd world country unless they have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
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Originally Posted by TonyIf he had no guilt, after 4 months since the raid, this would have been solved already. In fact he would probably be back in Vegas. Nobody bolts to a 3rd world country unless they have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
Welllllll... gaming kicked in his door and pointed guns in his face. The dude wasnt facing charges when he fled, he was just done.
If he were innocent, he would have hired the law firm day 1 for illegal search and seizure. Could have made a fortune in a civil suit not to mention all the CNN headlines, interviews, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Welllllll... gaming kicked in his door and pointed guns in his face. The dude wasnt facing charges when he fled, he was just done.
Not trying to argue with you, but to suggest his door was kicked in and the next week he took a planned vacation is preposterous. People who leave the US under duress generally are doing so for a reason. Micon might be the 1/1,000,000 exception, where he is defending his civil liberties in a 3rd world country. I doubt it, but yes, there is still a miniscule of opportunity this is one giant misunderstanding.
You really think NVGC kicked down his door without a warrant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Well Micon did want to start SwC 2.0 where he was running the show, so this kickstarted it into high gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyIf he were innocent, he would have hired the law firm day 1 for illegal search and seizure. Could have made a fortune in a civil suit not to mention all the CNN headlines, interviews, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Not trying to argue with you, but to suggest his door was kicked in and the next week he took a planned vacation is preposterous. People who leave the US under duress generally are doing so for a reason. Micon might be the 1/1,000,000 exception, where he is defending his civil liberties in a 3rd world country. I doubt it, but yes, there is still a miniscule of opportunity this is one giant misunderstanding.
Upon moving to Antigua he has since realized that SwC 2.0 is a joke and his one outter failed.
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Originally Posted by TonyIf he were innocent, he would have hired the law firm day 1 for illegal search and seizure. Could have made a fortune in a civil suit not to mention all the CNN headlines, interviews, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Not trying to argue with you, but to suggest his door was kicked in and the next week he took a planned vacation is preposterous. People who leave the US under duress generally are doing so for a reason. Micon might be the 1/1,000,000 exception, where he is defending his civil liberties in a 3rd world country. I doubt it, but yes, there is still a miniscule of opportunity this is one giant misunderstanding.
Im just saying, youre making this sound very black and white. I think we are dealing with nuances, not guilty/innocent.
He 100% confirmed had existing plans to head to Aruba (that got sidelined by the BTC implosion).
He is 100% confirmed not innocent of some charges (but was not a kingpin or site owner, he was a marketing tool).
So really, crystal balling this means you have to measure his place on the spectrum of guilt/culpability against the overarching concerns of Gaming. If they had nailed that gook in the hotel room, Id say Micon better keep some coins for the pay phone and a toothbrush up his ass.
His guilt at the end of the day is walking into Nevada casinos with SWC ads operating a site with no license, what happens is really beyond his control at this point. He is a pawn to the system at this point. If I were betting, I am saying its a year at an honor ranch or house arrest and a fine, and public NV apology and abstinence from gambling while in NV for a period of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Im just saying, youre making this sound very black and white. I think we are dealing with nuances, not guilty/innocent.
He 100% confirmed had existing plans to head to Aruba (that got sidelined by the BTC implosion).
He is 100% confirmed not innocent of some charges (but was not a kingpin or site owner, he was a marketing tool).
So really, crystal balling this means you have to measure his place on the spectrum of guilt/culpability against the overarching concerns of Gaming. If they had nailed that gook in the hotel room, Id say Micon better keep some coins for the pay phone and a toothbrush up his ass.
I think we can agree, you want to walk into Northern Syria with a Cross and a Bible you are on your own. If you operate a gaming enterprise in Nevada, directly or otherwise, you are on your own.
Oh well, who cares.
Like I said, its not like youre wrong. Very curious to see which way this breaks, naturally.
Agreed. I think he gets some detention, but mild, everyone wins in that scenario and it goes away. State gets some form of jail, Micon gets away from a prison climate he obviously fears.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I would guess wealth preservation comes into play, i.e. make a deal to stop legal costs from spiraling.
I hear ya...just like with anything (FIFA, government shit)...follow the money...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I'll just leave this right here:
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...owtopic=147530
This "DealerNate" sounds like a really nice and selfless guy.
its kind of intense to see an entire community come together and put micon on blast as if with one single voice.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
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Originally Posted by KarinaJett
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Stunned that FCP is still around. I havent seen it mentioned or linked in probably 6 or 7 years. I thought it folded when DN's poker skin folded.
Is it still DN's site?
That "two queens" Full Contact Poker logo was one of my favorite graphics of all time.
Given the choice between hustling Micon out of $100k in legal fees or watching him set it on fire, pretty sure the lawyers will be keeping him away from the tables.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
MOVED THE GRIND OVER TO SWC
SOFTWARE IS OK
PINEAPPLE IS A +
SHIPPED THEIR BIGGEST DAILY GUARANTEE NLHE TOURNAMENT YESTERDAY
My guess is NO.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
I do not think that Micon has an open ended relationship with Chesnoff & Schonfeld. I am speculating that Micon asked Chesnoff to review his case and his options and to try to negotiate a plea. It appears the results have not been especially compelling for the Chairman. The scope of Micon's relationship with his firm was fixed.
My hunch is that Micon has logged off from Chesnoff & Schonfeld. He probably feels he doesn't HAVE to do anything for now. He will wait for the turn card, survey the table and then react.
If you think he has allowed the meter to keep spinning this past month on legal fees then you have a different take on Micon's wealth than I do - and you are wrong. Lol.
So while Micon may seem fit to just wait and react, unexpectedly I think the catalyst for the next move will be domestic. His wife will tire of living in a third world country or she will experience the type of mood swing all us husbands have experienced where she decides she is just pissed off. She won't even be able to pinpoint her anger. We have all gone through this shit but usually we are on more solid footing than Bryan is right now.
Somehow Martha's hormones will prompt the next move Micon makes. One of the insights I have learned over the years is that wives are all driven by the whole "nesting" instinct. You give them whatever the fuck they want for the house or where they want to live. This vagabond existence (the simple uncertainty) is gonna cause her to snap eventually.
I have dismissed the whole "isolated in a third world country" component and realized nothing is preventing Micon's friends and family from visiting him in Antigua. Micon plays the role of host and offers his guests cheap rum & coconuts and spins great stories. Micon is still center stage appearing to live an intriguing life. What a stud, huh?
Also, nothin is preventing his wife and child from visiting the US. You might have seen her shopping at the Venetian last week.
It's bad television but for now we are on summer hiatus.
I disagree. I think that Micon is still with Chesnoff/Schonfeld, partially because he will not post on social media except for the occasional update about gofundme (and even that has stopped).Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarMy guess is NO.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
I do not think that Micon has an open ended relationship with Chesnoff & Schonfeld. I am speculating that Micon asked Chesnoff to review his case and his options and to try to negotiate a plea. It appears the results have not been especially compelling for the Chairman. The scope of Micon's relationship with his firm was fixed.
My hunch is that Micon has logged off from Chesnoff & Schonfeld. He probably feels he doesn't HAVE to do anything for now. He will wait for the turn card, survey the table and then react.
If you think he has allowed the meter to keep spinning this past month on legal fees then you have a different take on Micon's wealth than I do - and you are wrong. Lol.
So while Micon may seem fit to just wait and react, unexpectedly I think the catalyst for the next move will be domestic. His wife will tire of living in a third world country or she will experience the type of mood swing all us husbands have experienced where she decides she is just pissed off. She won't even be able to pinpoint her anger. We have all gone through this shit but usually we are on more solid footing than Bryan is right now.
Somehow Martha's hormones will prompt the next move Micon makes. One of the insights I have learned over the years is that wives are all driven by the whole "nesting" instinct. You give them whatever the fuck they want for the house or where they want to live. This vagabond existence (the simple uncertainty) is gonna cause her to snap eventually.
I have dismissed the whole "isolated in a third world country" component and realized nothing is preventing Micon's friends and family from visiting him in Antigua. Micon plays the role of host and offers his guests cheap rum & coconuts and spins great stories. Micon is still center stage appearing to live an intriguing life. What a stud, huh?
Also, nothin is preventing his wife and child from visiting the US. You might have seen her shopping at the Venetian last week.
It's bad television but for now we are on summer hiatus.
I also don't think Chesnoff takes cheap consultation cases (beyond maybe a first phone call). I believe they require you lay down a hefty retainer and then that's the minimum you've bought with them.
They are probably negotiating on his behalf, though it's possible that things have stalled if the Nevada AG refuses to negotiate while Micon is hiding out.
he hasnt been posting on REDDIT either.
Not posting is HIGHLY unusual for him. Attorney talked some sense into him.
or, he dead