Never heard of Fuentes until this thread. It's fucking hilarious that this guy thinks he's white.
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Never heard of Fuentes until this thread. It's fucking hilarious that this guy thinks he's white.
On the hit list of the Jewish lobby (billionaire jews) are Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Steve Bannon and Nick Fuentes and Marjorie Taylor Green. Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens both say they and others were offered lots of money to condemn Tucker.
What is Tucker's sin? He's to anti-war. He didn't support the bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities and he doesn't support the War in Gaza.
What is Candace's sin? Saying Christ is King was enough to get her into hot water with the Jewish lobby. But she was offered money to go after Tucker. She refused the dough. And now she is saying Bill Ackman threatened Charlie Kirk, just before he died, with withholding a planned 2 million dollar donation to TPUSA if Kirk didn't cancel Tucker's appearance at a TPUSA rally in December. It will be interesting to see if Tucker appears in December.
What is Steve Bannon's sin? He hates Netanyahu. Thinks he's a war criminal. He's calling for regime change in Israel.
What is Nick Fuentes sin? Well, you know...
Marjorie's sin? I don't know yet. I'll have to look into it.
So anyways, the Jewish Lobby, a group of Jewish billionaires, which some are calling Jewish Supremacists, intends to silence any right winger that criticizes Israel no matter how small the criticism is.
Mark Levin is a paid lackey. He got paid handsomly by the Jewish lobby for this speech. Early on he spelled out the names of Tucker, Candace, Bannon, Green and Fuentes. They are trying to tie them all to Fuentes to marginalize them. This speech was in September:
https://youtu.be/bABUEAyVwK8
The problem for Shapiro is that he just isn’t a very intelligent guy. He’s what stupid people perceive as smart. Plus he has zero charisma.
This is a grating combination.
I sample everyone. Right left center. I’ve even been entertained and disgusted by Fuentes. I’ve sampled some Shapiro and he offers nothing. Plus he’s too much to endure with the autistic delivery.
No wit or insight. To your point, insight is a sign of intelligence.
We can so easily piss away hours of our life online. If you want an echo chamber maybe he’s your guy. Shapiro is not gonna steal from me
Here's the 41-minute episode about Fuentes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaRJlL5mOF8
Shapiro is mostly correct here.
If you want to laugh at Fuentes, or if you find him entertaining, that's fine. Maybe you agree with some of the "offensive" stuff he pushes, which most people won't say because it will get them into hot water. I can understand all of that.
But he's not a serious person, nor is he any kind of intellectual. He's a naive 27-year-old punk who is a good speaker and talented at saying really offensive (and usually incorrect) things in a fashion to where they almost sound reasonable.
He knows his audience. He realizes he will be hated by liberals, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, and a lot of centrists. He also knows that there's about 60 million non-Jewish white adult males in the US, and that's a huge pool from which he can draw. He correctly identified that, of those 60 million, there's a certain percentage who are racist/bigoted enough (or at least open to such a message) to where he will scratch an itch they've long had, but perhaps don't even realize.
Fuentes has been around for a long time. There was even controversy three years ago when Trump (who, of course wasn't President at the time) had dinner with Fuentes. I actually believe Trump's explanation -- that he had invited Kanye West, who brought Fuentes along, and Trump stupidly didn't vet him. The story died fairly quickly because, at the time, Fuentes wasn't very well known to the general public.
In 2025, Fuentes has greatly risen to prominence, largely because the anti-Semitic "just asking questions" portion of the right needed a spokesman, and Fuentes was hating the Jews before it was cool. The right wing media figures propping him up are doing so out of selfishness. If they're courting an audience which largely likes Fuentes, they also have to pretend they like Fuentes. Tucker Carlson will do or say anything to stay relevant. Remember the recording of him stating how much he hated Trump, after spending years publicly sucking off Trump on Fox News? It turned out Carlson didn't believe a word he said. Sure, Carlson is actually right wing, but many of the views he expressed on his show were fabricated, including his claims that Trump really won the 2020 election.
Even if you largely agree with Fuentes and think he's a great spokesman/leader for the right, he is politically toxic. He has zero crossover appeal. If you transform the GOP into what he wants it to be, you can say goodbye to votes from anyone besides aggrieved white males.
I also have to laugh whenever this guy talks about women. Of course he hates women. As a (closeted) gay man, he has no use for them. A certain percentage of gay men love women as friends and bond with them -- they just have no sexual or romantic attraction. But another subset of gay men really hate women, and I've personally seen it. They can't relate to them, have little in common with them, aren't attracted to them, and have no desire to want to relate to or understand them. Straight men develop a natural appreciation and love for women due to their physical and emotional attraction to them. But it's easy for angry gay guys like Fuentes to look down on women, because he has no need or desire to relate to them.
Anwyay, Shapiro is correct. What began as a loud but otherwise small fringe element on the right has grown, and is increasing in influence. If it eventually swallows the Republican Party, that's when I'll be making my exit to third partydom. This is unfortunately looking like a mirror image of how the left wing crazies (again, many of them anti-Semitic) have infected and slowly taken over the Democratic Party.
Shapiro is a huge hypocrite. Bro, you had no problem with the 60+ year old grab them by the pussy guy. But some years old video of an idiot 20 year old kid is supposed to be he’s a misogynist? Gtfo.
Kanye hated Jews long before that dinner also.
Kirk gets killed and the GOP cries quit calling people Nazis. Tucker and Fuentes do an interview and the same whiners are calling them both Nazis.
Every ICE video of them slamming some old lady down is filled with MAGA tards like desert proudly saying this is what I voted for!
Well here is your big tent that Trump courted every day to win. This is what Ben voted for.
Shapiro is a paid lobbyist. Gosh, that was too easy
Shapiro was a NeverTrumper in 2015 and 2016. This (and the fact that he's Jewish) instantly made the mid-2010s alt-right hate him.
He softened on Trump during the first term, but I can understand that, because I went on the exact same path.
Shapiro was upset that Trump was gaining traction in 2015, as was I.
Shapiro was upset that Trump won the primary, and voted for someone different, as did I.
Shapiro hated Hillary and the Dems, but could not bring himself to vote for Trump, so he voted third party, while still preferring a Trump victory over a Hillary victory. As did I.
Shapiro was pleasantly surprised by the moderation of Trump's first term, combined with a unique take on foreign policy which worked out well. As was I.
Shapiro warmed up to Trump, enjoyed his first term, and defended a lot of bullshit attacks on Trump ("Very fine people on both sides", Russiagate, etc). As did I.
Shapiro was put off by the January 6 events and all of the "Trump really won 2020" bullshit. As was I.
Shapiro was a big supporter of DeSantis for 2024. As was I.
When DeSantis ran a bad campaign and failed miserably, Shapiro went back to supporting Trump, and did vote for him in the 2024 general election. As did I.
How is any of this unreasonable?
I don't agree with Shapiro on everything. He's more focused upon social issues than I am, and a lot of his politics are informed by religious code, whereas mine are not.
However, I find that when I watch him, his takes are never extreme, well reasoned, and a lot of times mirror the conclusions I independently came to myself.
The right should not be making time with Fuentes. Let him sit in relative obscurity with his incel groypers like he always has, and otherwise loudly condemn him. The problem is that the alt right has gained strength since the Hamas/Israel war, and now it's tough to put that genie back in the bottle.
In short, a party ruled or highly influenced by Majorie Taylor-Green, Nick Fuentes, and Tucker Carlson will be a disaster.
This all first level fare Todd.
Give me an example Shapiro insight … perhaps the state politics generally or corruption. You pick. Anything.
Tim Dillon has more depth than your examples
"The existence of the State of Israel is the single greatest guarantor of my loyalty to the United States, frankly.”
-Ben Shapiro
Anyone whose loyalty to the United States is dependent on a foreign nation should not have any role in US politics whatsoever. They should be deported.
Frankly.
its actually very much over for zionists and jews in US politics, the Nicker won.
He won the argument, he hasn't won an election.
Israel's going to be like immigration, nobody wants it, nobody supports it but there it is sucking up massive funds.
Trump and the estab GOP are working on many fronts to rig election or maybe even cancel them.
All eyes are on NYC, if they can upset Mondomi and put in Cuomo. Fuck it we're just dumb Goy slaves who deserve enslavement. If Trump and Musk backing Cuomo isn't the kiss of death then we're fucked.
Are we Goy slaves? We'll know soon enough. Thomas Massie is another race to watch.
There's no way Unit 8200 isn't working on our voting machine software. We may be entering the era of blatant sham elections.
First thing that comes to mind was his opinion of the 2020 election.
All of the tards and phonies on right wing social media were bending over backwards to "prove" voting irregularities and make the case that Trump got cheated. I don't even think half of them believed it. They felt they needed to push this angle in order to keep their audience happy.
Shapiro didn't do that.
Instead, he said (and I'm paraphrasing here): "I don't see any evidence that the 2020 election was rigged. I don't see any evidence that, by the votes case, that Biden didn't actually win the Presidency. If you want to make the argument that it was rigged through unfair and biased media coverage of Trump, or the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story by social media and figures within the FBI who wanted him to lose, that would be a decent argument. If you want to say that it was rigged because of unfair voting rules in certain states which allowed ballot harvesting or super early voting, that would also be a decent argument. But by the votes actually cast, I'm just not seeing it."
Correct.
The 2020 election rigtards were screaming about unproven (and unlikely) "voting irregularities", while missing the obvious right in front of our faces.
We had a major October surprise story about the Bidens straight up censored from social media and incorrectly cast as Russian disinformation, and it turned out that the FBI had a hand in it.
Voting rules were insane that year, and it's insane that ballot harvesting was allowed anywhere. People hid behind COVID to insane the ridiculous changes in voting procedures.
Few conservatives pointed this out while at the same time dismissing the voter irregularity bullshit. It seemed that it was all or nothing -- either "The Dems cheated in every way you can imagine, and Trump is really the President" or "The election results were probably correct, but some really unfair and undemocratic things were done regarding this election."
I was happy to hear this sort of thing from Shapiro, because no other right wing commentator was covering it this way -- at least not the ones I attempted to listen to.
You wanted an example, so I gave you one.
He also has pointed out in many cases when Republicans do stupid shit that hurt their electoral chances. He's not afraid to go there, and I'm not just talking about stuff which has to do with Israel or Jews.
It's nice listening to an intelligent, grounded conservative analyst, and not a grifter, hyper-partisan monkey, extremist, or fake-NeverTrumper-who-has-actually-gone-left.
I will concede that his voice is not good for broadcasting, and his entire presence is an acquired taste. It bothered me at first, which is why I stuck to Steven Crowder (who had a less sophisticated take on things, but was funny). Once Crowder went psycho and ran off his entire staff, his show turned to shit, so I gave Shapiro another chance, and here we are.
The people of Argentina proved they are Goy slaves. The should have sent Milei packing to Tel Aviv.
This is how you know Shapiro means business.
Haha
https://x.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1985555099737838074
I believe he is the biggest streamer in the world. Totally nerfed on rumble. Imagine if he was on YT, would be doing 5-6x views
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-713249Quote:
Where is a link of him actually saying this?
All I see are alt-right people on X quoting it.
Last time I checked the US had a pretty good run the last 50-60 years with Jews (arguably) running everything.
But go ahead and kick them all out of power, and let economically illiterate Muslim socialists and MAGA socialists take over. I am sure things are going to work out awesome and the next 50-60 years will be even better.
Even if you think Jewish influence has been bad for America (which is an empirically insane position, but whatever) you should probably take a look at who is filling the influence vacuum and whether you think it is going to make things better or worse.
This is what I get
**Yes**, Ben Shapiro made a statement very close to that quote during a public event in Tel Aviv in July 2022. When asked if he ever worries about being forced to flee the United States due to rising antisemitism or other threats, he replied: “The existence of the State of Israel is the single greatest guarantor of my loyalty to the United States, frankly. Because Israel exists, that means the United States is going to be a more welcoming place for me, because Israel is there as a backstop in case anything should go wrong.”
This was reported in multiple outlets, including *Israel Hayom*, *Jewish News Syndicate (JNS)*, and *Philadelphia Jewish Exponent*, all from late July 2022, based on the same event. The full clip has circulated widely on X (formerly Twitter), often shared critically by users highlighting perceived "dual loyalty," but it aligns with the context of his explanation. The phrasing in your query matches almost exactly, with only minor capitalization differences ("state" vs. "State").
Man I’d argue the United States was like a great business inherited by a succession of idiot kids for about the last 50 or so odd years that has been in steep decline.
I don’t blame the Jews for that, but I don’t agree with the premise things have been good. You can pretty much circle that timeframe as the beginning of the end.
I don't really see this negative outlook as being justified. But even if it was, the people complaining the loudest about "Jews" seem to be a collection of the worst people with the worst ideas from the left and right. Is there any "anti-Zionist" on any part of the political spectrum that has any good ideas that you see?
he crushes levin. good.
https://x.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1985576141428601023
Well, the premise of your argument is that Jews/Israel control America, and that America will be better off if Jews are removed from influence/power
I will say that radical leftists who openly hate America and want to destroy it are just as eager to cut off “zionists.” So given completely divergent agendas, it would appear either the far left or far right is making a miscalculation.
So if/when Jews are kicked to the curb I guess we will find out who is right.