You don’t hear much about the fall off of Sandy Alcontra unless you hear it from Nicky Pipes
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You don’t hear much about the fall off of Sandy Alcontra unless you hear it from Nicky Pipes
Anybody watching the college World Series? I have enjoyed watching it. I hope the Florida gators win but I enjoy watching all teams. Enjoyable to bet on
I rarely watch the MLB I bet on except the Reds post Elly De La Cruz and hate-watching the Dodgers.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyPipes
The CWS is baseball for fun. It’s been fantastic. I was on the Oral Roberts bandwagon like most. I have a small Florida future too.
Been meanings to ask you, where do you think Tampa Bay Rays will move to?
Nashville Country Rays sounds about right.
That’s what I heard. gut is plugged in thoQuote:
Originally Posted by gut
Holy shit. The Naylor and his kid brother are together in Cleveland.
MLB will never be the same
Naylor scares me as a human
Naylors together may have won this game from behind on the first night together …. damn
MLB has to fix this catcher at home plate making a tag... and fix it fast, just happened again in the SF-SD game.... this is worse than the Rangers call at home plate
from last night.....!!
Speaking of prospect hype (or maybe lack-thereof) have you seen Royce Lewis killing it for the Twins? Everyone kinda forgot about him after he tore his ACL for the 2nd time last year, but he's back and basically the best hitter in the Twins lineup right now. Free-swinger who strikes out a bunch but thats really his only knock. Think Javier Baez with better contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Bussing with the Boys really changed the game. These current athlete podcasts now are great. Mookie apparently has one now, here he is interviewing Trout.
https://youtu.be/P2VgoAb14CE
Elly De La Cruz hits for cycle in like his 15th game. Kid is fun as shit. They will eventually tell him to dial it back but I’m all in atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarI rarely watch the MLB I bet on except the Reds post Elly De La Cruz and hate-watching the Dodgers.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyPipes
Yankees Domingo German has a Perfect Game going vs Las Vegas A’s. German needs to complete bottom of 9th.
Hopefully the NYY bats don’t make him wait too long - not kidding - just strike out and allow history. German may need to go to the bull pen to work
Glad I caught that. Only 24th ever.
Does it get an asterisk being that it was vs a AAA team?
That’s certainly fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
The things is … success in the bottom of the 9th frankly had more to do with the Yankees and German’s “yips” or nerves than anything the Athletics were going to do.
People are likely to choke in those spots - including umpires
I had Padres & Mets ML parlay for +128.
Padres/Pirates under 4.5 F5
Padres are such the underachieving, uncoached prima donnas that cancelling the game and my bet would really be in the public interest.
I never fail to get sucked in on the Padres potential. That’s me - Mr Sunshine
Dodgers in Colorado tonight with their kid who has pitched all of 2 games on the mound against the pitcher who let up 80 runs is a fun spot too. The Todgers kid comes out of a high altitude league but they used tacky baseballs in that league
Todgers used to be experts on sticky balls but that era is apparently over…. or is it? Dodgers pitching performance indicates they stopped using goo
I just looked at the box score. As someone who generally is aware of the top 200ish prospects in MLB at any given time, I still had no idea what a "Jonah Bride" is who started at 3B for the A's last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarThat’s certainly fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
The things is … success in the bottom of the 9th frankly had more to do with the Yankees and German’s “yips” or nerves than anything the Athletics were going to do.
People are likely to choke in those spots - including umpires
Their DH was the backup catcher with a career .591 OPS. Might as well have the pitcher bat.
I spend more time on baseball than is healthy but you always crush me with knowledge, gut.
Dodgers bullpen is back. Went from worst to pretty much first in 10 days.
Any opinion on Ohtani to LAD gut? Mookie, Freddie, Ohtani?
Padres uniforms today
Imagine the pickle the Angels are in now. Trading Ohtani is like trying to gauge the value of an actual unicorn. Soto got Wash basically the top 4 prospects in the Padres system. What the hell would you have to give up for Shohei? He's almost untradeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The Angels seriously have to make the world series this year for any chance of Ohtani staying. Dodgers, Giants, Mariners obvious suspects for defection. Sounds like he wants to stay west coast.
Leaving a space here for Druff to claim once again Dodgers are frugal spenders.
I kinda like the dodgers (44-35 currently) to have a decent run next dozen or whatever something such games, gonna look for spots to bet them , they got KC, PIT, LAA coming upQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The Dodgers better offer him $500 million for ten years, and if he doesn’t take that, offer him $600 million. He’s the best athlete I’ve ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The rumors from within the organization are that the Dodgers cheaped out this year so they could reset the luxury tax and then drop a heap of cash on Ohtani in 2024.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Of course, not wanting to drive away fans during 2023, they aren't publicly saying this. Just "we have faith in our young players", blah blah. I did not have high hopes for 2023, and so far they are about the team I expected them to be.
600 might be too low, if his current pace continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayjamiThe Dodgers better offer him $500 million for ten years, and if he doesn’t take that, offer him $600 million. He’s the best athlete I’ve ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
35/yr for the best pitcher and best hitter seems right. 10/700 isn't crazy
Can you imagine Dodgers giving Ohtani $70m/yr and Mark Prior (pitching coach) gets his mitts on him and he goes out for a year and a half with Tommy John like every single one of his staffQuote:
Originally Posted by gut600 might be too low, if his current pace continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayjami
35/yr for the best pitcher and best hitter seems right. 10/700 isn't crazy
I remember Bo but yes I’m prepared to say Ohtani is the greatest athlete I ever saw
"Ohtani hits 14th homer in June in Angels loss", the present ESPN headline, is so 2020s Angels, it's not even funny.
By the way, I remember as a 13-year-old cheering on Pedro Guerrero in 1985, who hit 15 June homers to help propel an expected mediocre Dodgers team into contention. That was also a breakout year for Orel Hershiser, who somehow was unheralded despite an excellent 1984 rookie season. Hershiser still didn't get the credit he deserved until his monster 1988 year.
1985 would have been an exciting year in Dodgers lore, and still spoken of positively today, had it not been for one horrible Tommy Lasorda decision.
He walked a then-mediocre Andy Van Slyke to pitch to fearsome Jack Clark -- the only Cardinal with power, in the 1985 NLCS. Clark hit a home run, the Cardinals won, and the Dodgers 1985 hopes were destroyed.
That's what people remember about 1985, not the exciting summer where Pedro Guerrero, Mike Marshall (the outfielder, not the pitcher), and Orel Hershiser carried a not-so-great team to an NL West title.
Lol, I forgot Prior was there. Preaching on the bible Dusty ruined him with.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarCan you imagine Dodgers giving Ohtani $70m/yr and Mark Prior (pitching coach) gets his mitts on him and he goes out for a year and a half with Tommy John like every single one of his staffQuote:
Originally Posted by gut
I remember Bo but yes I’m prepared to say Ohtani is the greatest athlete I ever saw
The student may have surpassed the teacher.
Don’t forget the Driveline pod I recommended.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutLol, I forgot Prior was there. Preaching on the bible Dusty ruined him with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The student may have surpassed the teacher.
Soto had 2.5 years of control, Ohtani has half a year, Soto was massively more valuable.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutImagine the pickle the Angels are in now. Trading Ohtani is like trying to gauge the value of an actual unicorn. Soto got Wash basically the top 4 prospects in the Padres system. What the hell would you have to give up for Shohei? He's almost untradeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The Angels seriously have to make the world series this year for any chance of Ohtani staying. Dodgers, Giants, Mariners obvious suspects for defection. Sounds like he wants to stay west coast.
Yeah sorry, I should have said "trading for Ohtani with the assumption he is signing an extension"Quote:
Originally Posted by podcastSoto had 2.5 years of control, Ohtani has half a year, Soto was massively more valuable.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Take out the Soto comp and the question still remains...how much is half a season + playoffs of Ohtani worth? I think it would be shockingly close to the Soto haul, actually.
Angels probably won't trade him. They are in contention for a (crowded) AL wildcard spot, and also have a shot at the AL West title if Texas collapses and Houston never gets it fully together.
If the Angels collapse out of contention, then they try to ship Ohtani.
If they can at least get a playoff berth, they have a chance at riding a hot run to the World Series, and that can erase a lot of the feelings of fail regarding the Trout/Ohtani era which literally produced nothing thus far.
I was just thinking about Prior. I was wondering when he might be fired, given the Dodgers' uncharacteristic pitching woes this year. Admittedly some of the pitching fail has been due to both injury and front office frugality (see the bullpen), but the pitching has really dragged the Dodgers down in 2023, despite an offense which has performed better than expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutLol, I forgot Prior was there. Preaching on the bible Dusty ruined him with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The student may have surpassed the teacher.
Maybe they will let him go in the offseason. This year it seems like they're content to just ride it out and let the chips fall where they may.
It appears gut and I have an understanding that you may not be privy too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI was just thinking about Prior. I was wondering when he might be fired, given the Dodgers' uncharacteristic pitching woes this year. Admittedly some of the pitching fail has been due to both injury and front office frugality (see the bullpen), but the pitching has really dragged the Dodgers down in 2023, despite an offense which has performed better than expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Maybe they will let him go in the offseason. This year it seems like they're content to just ride it out and let the chips fall where they may.
The injury is kinda the Dodger way.
Prior’s max effort approach may not be healthy or a successful long term strategy. Personally, I think they believe there is a unlimited supply of kids they can wind up to 11 for a while.
The “fail due to injury” is a corporate strategy. Maybe a moneyball (frugal) idea held by Fraudman.
Every single pitcher is in the surgeon’s waiting room or dead arm
Aaron Judge might come back soon.
Yankees really need it, because honestly their lineup is pretty bad without him.
They also keep running .143 hitting Josh Donaldson out there. Braves were smart to let him walk after the 37 HR in 2019.
If I could pick a team to hop in and be GM starting tomorrow, Yankees would be like in the bottom third.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Unless George's kids want to start spending like the Mets, the future does not look bright there.
If Elly De La Cruz is not put on the All Star team I will continue to not watch the ASG.
Big Red Machine
Try to find a video of Judge hobbling from the dugout to join the celebration following the German perfect game.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutIf I could pick a team to hop in and be GM starting tomorrow, Yankees would be like in the bottom third.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Unless George's kids want to start spending like the Mets, the future does not look bright there.
Gonna be a month of Sundays
Might be. He's working out with the team now, which is a positive sign. These foot injuries can stay painful with no progress, and then abruptly get better. I had that myself 8 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarTry to find a video of Judge hobbling from the dugout to join the celebration following the German perfect game.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Gonna be a month of Sundays
Somehow they walloped the Cards 14-0 yesterday, and got rained out today, but fading them in general wouldn't be the worst idea, as the offense is pretty awful.
I seriously wonder if, 2 years from now, ESPN moguls are still like "Yeah, lets keep the Yankees vs Sox battle for 4th place in the division on Sunday night....cause EAST COASSSSSSST!"
You might be too young ….Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
There was once a day when the second place team in the AL East might not make the playoffs. These games mattered. There were no hugs when you reached first base.
There were 90+ win Sawks teams who went straight home after the regular season. Life and death.
Now the regular season is just an exhibition and the games mean almost nothing. Gimme the Reds, Braves or Ohtani. Some kinda Globetrotter shit