*** OFFICIAL *** Colonoscopy Thread

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Originally Posted by tigerpiper

Druff, I am 53 and will get my third in 2025. This thread made my go back to look at the notes from the second one in 2022 (2 small polyps, 3mm and 4mm, "benign appearance.") I guess I didn't get more details because they didn't send them off.

As with you, my second prep was suboptimal- I drank all the stuff in one go, and later read I was supposed to split it in half 4 hours apart or something. Ooops. I was like, what could be left in there, but in the notes "Bowel prep was suboptimal. Recommend repeat colonoscopy in 3 years for surveillance." Sorry Doc.

Thanks for the detailed thread.

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Funny, because this office wanted me to gulp down the entire 64oz of Gatorade in 2 hours, and then stop, drink water until midnight, and then drink nothing until my procedure at 9:30am (which ended up as 10:30am).

Did you do the gatorade or the nasty laxative version?

Because I just disregarded their instructions and split it half in the evening, half late at night, and then kept drinking water until 5am. They were not happy about this because I didn't follow THEIR instructions, even though it's the same doctor whose instructions had me do it the half/half way last time, also allowing me to drink water until 4 hours before. For the same 9:30am timeslot!

I did the split prep and the late water drinking because 1) the split prep is said to be better and 2) not drinking water for 9.5 hours is terrible.

Anyway the doctor said my prep was great, so despite their unhappiness about the 5am water (which apparently they drained out of me in some way), they got a clear view of it all.

Both times I did the horrible, explosive laxative. I'll see if there are other options next time.

I had an aunt that died of colon cancer at the age of 84. We were astounded/pissed that her first ever colonoscopy was just before she died. Her health care providers let her down.

I thought it was one and done didn't realize I had to go numerous times. It was painless but a pain in the Ass.

I love the old well the doctor and facility are in network but the anesthesiologist was out of network…that will be $1400.

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Originally Posted by Texter

I love the old well the doctor and facility are in network but the anesthesiologist was out of network…that will be $1400.

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If you look earlier in the thread, you’ll see I talked my way out of this charge.

You probably can too.

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Originally Posted by Texter

I love the old well the doctor and facility are in network but the anesthesiologist was out of network…that will be $1400.

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If you look earlier in the thread, you’ll see I talked my way out of this charge.

You probably can too.

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Went to a holiday party and met an anesthesiologist. After I make the requisite Michael Jackson propofol joke as,if he’d never heard it before - he told me that anesthesia for colonoscopies is gonna be a perk for the wealthy going forward. Insurance companies are seeking to not cover that expense for that routine procedure.

You’re gonna be biting a tongue depressor in the future.

I didn’t dwell on it - was getting ugly glances. Which is pretty typical for me actually.

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Originally Posted by tigerpiper

Both times I did the horrible, explosive laxative. I'll see if there are other options next time.

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There are other options -- namely the Gatorade prep I described.

Almost all doctors will let you do that upon request.

And it works just as well. It's a crime that many doctors do not give people this option unless they request it.

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Originally Posted by Sanlmar

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

If you look earlier in the thread, you’ll see I talked my way out of this charge.

You probably can too.

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Went to a holiday party and met an anesthesiologist. After I make the requisite Michael Jackson propofol joke as,if he’d never heard it before - he told me that anesthesia for colonoscopies is gonna be a perk for the wealthy going forward. Insurance companies are seeking to not cover that expense for that routine procedure.

You’re gonna be biting a tongue depressor in the future.

I didn’t dwell on it - was getting ugly glances. Which is pretty typical for me actually.

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That future is now.

Actually, that future already arrived years ago.

They make you sign a paper when you arrive, stating that most insurances don't cover the propofol, and that you agree to pay something like 200-400 if they don't.

I thought I dodged this issue in 2021 when I didn't get a bill for the propofol. However, many months later that bill arrived. Insurance just dragged their feet in their denial.

I reached the only helpful department of my insurance company, and told them I wanted an exception made for me. My logic was that I had a massive bout of anxiety/depression in 2018 which caused permanent psychological damage, and the propofol is medically necesasry for me -- not a luxury. The rep briefly thought about, put me on hold, and came back telling me they'd send a check on my behalf.

I plan upon doing the same this time.

Here they do conscious sedation for most colonscopies.

Is that not a thing in the States? You're conscious but won't remember anything.

I understand Druff can't risk it, he would be afraid the nurses may ask for the PFA administrator password.

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Originally Posted by simpdog

Here they do conscious sedation for most colonscopies.

Is that not a thing in the States? You're conscious but won't remember anything.

I understand Druff can't risk it, he would be afraid the nurses may ask for the PFA administrator password.

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That was the '90s/'00s model. My dad did it that way at the time. Well kind of... he remembered it all, but he was just kinda out of it, sort of like how you feel for the first 60 seconds after you wake up from normal sleep.

Propofol for colonoscopies became very common in the 2010s -- despite the very highly publicized negative news about propofol in 2009, when it killed Michael Jackson.

Propofol knocks you out completely. To me it feels like an hourlong, dreamless sleep.

In early 2022, my dad had a not-so-great propofol experience where somehow he was conscious during his colonoscopy, but he said he felt no pain. I asked if he could speak if he wanted, and he said yes, but he just chose to stay quiet and let it be done. This would kinda freak me out if it happened to me. But it didn't. I was totally knocked out both times. On his last one (at the same place I just did mine), he was also 100% knocked out.

In the US it is also legal for an RN to administer the propofol, as long as an anesthesiologist is present in the room. My answer to that is fuck no. I want a doctor administering it and monitoring it the entire way. Fortunately this has not been an issue, as both facilities I've been to have had doctors administering it.

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Originally Posted by Sanlmar

Went to a holiday party and met an anesthesiologist. After I make the requisite Michael Jackson propofol joke as,if he’d never heard it before - he told me that anesthesia for colonoscopies is gonna be a perk for the wealthy going forward. Insurance companies are seeking to not cover that expense for that routine procedure.

You’re gonna be biting a tongue depressor in the future.

I didn’t dwell on it - was getting ugly glances. Which is pretty typical for me actually.

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That future is now.

Actually, that future already arrived years ago.

They make you sign a paper when you arrive, stating that most insurances don't cover the propofol, and that you agree to pay something like 200-400 if they don't.

I thought I dodged this issue in 2021 when I didn't get a bill for the propofol. However, many months later that bill arrived. Insurance just dragged their feet in their denial.

I reached the only helpful department of my insurance company, and told them I wanted an exception made for me. My logic was that I had a massive bout of anxiety/depression in 2018 which caused permanent psychological damage, and the propofol is medically necesasry for me -- not a luxury. The rep briefly thought about, put me on hold, and came back telling me they'd send a check on my behalf.

I plan upon doing the same this time.

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I never paid a dime for colonoscopy. I’m just BC/BS. It seems clear things are changing.

Why would conscious sedation be cheaper than propofol? Less risk? Wonder what they do in first world countries?

Is this true Nickey about your Pipes?

Colon cancer is rising in young Americans. It’s not clear why.

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A report released early this year by the American Cancer Society found that people younger than 55 went from accounting for 11 percent of all colorectal cancer in 1995 to 20 percent in 2019. About 3,750 people younger than 50 will die of colorectal cancer in 2023, according to the report.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

In the US it is also legal for an RN to administer the propofol, as long as an anesthesiologist is present in the room. My answer to that is fuck no. I want a doctor administering it and monitoring it the entire way. Fortunately this has not been an issue, as both facilities I've been to have had doctors administering it.

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i highly doubt that. maybe it's state specific, but in Ga the dr is usually going back and forth b/n 4-5 rooms while the nurse aesthesis administers and watches it throughout (supposedly). I, like you, hate this. but no one cares. i know for a fact on my last colonoscopy a nurse administered it. i recently had a major surgery in a major hospital and it was done by a dr.

Sorry to hear about all of your health issues

I heard you say on your radio show that you have had a lot of issues in the last 3 months and you just want to feel healthy again

Brother when I heard this I felt the emotion sadness

Brother I’ve offered my fair share of advice, you can review my extensive post history if you’d like to revisit my thoughtful suggestions

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Is this true Nickey about your Pipes?

Colon cancer is rising in young Americans. It’s not clear why.

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A report released early this year by the American Cancer Society found that people younger than 55 went from accounting for 11 percent of all colorectal cancer in 1995 to 20 percent in 2019. About 3,750 people younger than 50 will die of colorectal cancer in 2023, according to the report.

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This is a little misleading.

"Under 55" doesn't qualify as "young Americans".

The chance of getting colon cancer goes up HUGE after age 50, and if you're prone to it, after age 45 can also be a problem.

For whatever reason, black people have the highest rates of colon cancer (and younger colon cancer), while Ashkenazi Jews also see an elevated risk (which is what I am).

The biggest indicator is family history. If parent, sibling, or grandparent had colon cancer or colon polyps before, your chance of getting them yourself is WAY higher than if you have no such family history.

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Is this true Nickey about your Pipes?

Colon cancer is rising in young Americans. It’s not clear why.

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This is a little misleading.

"Under 55" doesn't qualify as "young Americans".

The chance of getting colon cancer goes up HUGE after age 50, and if you're prone to it, after age 45 can also be a problem.

For whatever reason, black people have the highest rates of colon cancer (and younger colon cancer), while Ashkenazi Jews also see an elevated risk (which is what I am).

The biggest indicator is family history. If parent, sibling, or grandparent had colon cancer or colon polyps before, your chance of getting them yourself is WAY higher than if you have no such family history.

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The number doubled Druff. That’s significant and warrants more than a simple dismissal. Google the article

Who knew colon cancer was so much fun? Turning into a rabbit hole

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

In the US it is also legal for an RN to administer the propofol, as long as an anesthesiologist is present in the room. My answer to that is fuck no. I want a doctor administering it and monitoring it the entire way. Fortunately this has not been an issue, as both facilities I've been to have had doctors administering it.

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i highly doubt that. maybe it's state specific, but in Ga the dr is usually going back and forth b/n 4-5 rooms while the nurse aesthesis administers and watches it throughout (supposedly). I, like you, hate this. but no one cares. i know for a fact on my last colonoscopy a nurse administered it. i recently had a major surgery in a major hospital and it was done by a dr.

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Do tell, major is major.

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i highly doubt that. maybe it's state specific, but in Ga the dr is usually going back and forth b/n 4-5 rooms while the nurse aesthesis administers and watches it throughout (supposedly). I, like you, hate this. but no one cares. i know for a fact on my last colonoscopy a nurse administered it. i recently had a major surgery in a major hospital and it was done by a dr.

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Do tell, major is major.

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2 level ACDF which was feared to turn into a corpectomy, but fortunately it didn't. Spent 5 months in pain and w significant limitations in my life trying to avoid the surgery. Recovery was hard, 2 months, but then suddenly i woke up 95% improved. i wish i had accepted the surgery offer earlier now.

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In the US it is also legal for an RN to administer the propofol, as long as an anesthesiologist is present in the room. My answer to that is fuck no. I want a doctor administering it and monitoring it the entire way. Fortunately this has not been an issue, as both facilities I've been to have had doctors administering it.

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i highly doubt that. maybe it's state specific, but in Ga the dr is usually going back and forth b/n 4-5 rooms while the nurse aesthesis administers and watches it throughout (supposedly). I, like you, hate this. but no one cares. i know for a fact on my last colonoscopy a nurse administered it. i recently had a major surgery in a major hospital and it was done by a dr.

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How do you doubt this?

I saw the doctor administering it both times.

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Originally Posted by Sanlmar

Is this true Nickey about your Pipes?

Colon cancer is rising in young Americans. It’s not clear why.

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A report released early this year by the American Cancer Society found that people younger than 55 went from accounting for 11 percent of all colorectal cancer in 1995 to 20 percent in 2019. About 3,750 people younger than 50 will die of colorectal cancer in 2023, according to the report.

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Never been healthier other than numerous horrible injuries I obtained in a recent brawl

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i highly doubt that. maybe it's state specific, but in Ga the dr is usually going back and forth b/n 4-5 rooms while the nurse aesthesis administers and watches it throughout (supposedly). I, like you, hate this. but no one cares. i know for a fact on my last colonoscopy a nurse administered it. i recently had a major surgery in a major hospital and it was done by a dr.

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How do you doubt this?

I saw the doctor administering it both times.

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in the hospitals i have been in, it is nearly if not impossible to discern the difference b/n a na and a dr. not saying it didn't happen in your cases, but a colonoscopy is as routine as it gets for them and they would lose money standing over you for the entire procedure, guaranteed. their business model doesn't work that way.

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I love the old well the doctor and facility are in network but the anesthesiologist was out of network…that will be $1400.

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If you look earlier in the thread, you’ll see I talked my way out of this charge.

You probably can too.

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The first time it happened I told them I’d pay $100 or $0….they took the $100.

Next time the doctor told me to call the PPO for balance billing and the insurance covered it…by paying me which I then paid the doctor…wtf?

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How do you doubt this?

I saw the doctor administering it both times.

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in the hospitals i have been in, it is nearly if not impossible to discern the difference b/n a na and a dr. not saying it didn't happen in your cases, but a colonoscopy is as routine as it gets for them and they would lose money standing over you for the entire procedure, guaranteed. their business model doesn't work that way.

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I can't say 100% he didn't walk away and let someone else monitor me, but the guy administering the propofol to put me out was definitely an MD. Same with my previous colonoscopy in a separate facility. Both facilities also guaranteed me that a doctor would be the one doing it and monitoring me.

These colonoscopies usually go quickly (10-20 min), so the doctors can make plenty, as these colonoscopy centers are like mills.

I think the reason the dude was annoyed regarding my 5am bottle of water was that he now had to waste additional time emptying my stomach, when they were already running over an hour late.

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If you look earlier in the thread, you’ll see I talked my way out of this charge.

You probably can too.

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The first time it happened I told them I’d pay $100 or $0….they took the $100.

Next time the doctor told me to call the PPO for balance billing and the insurance covered it…by paying me which I then paid the doctor…wtf?

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Yup, you can often talk the PPO into paying, if you have an individual plan. They are much less flexible with group plans, but for anesthesia, they will sometimes still cover it upon appeal.

Since I've already got my psychological issue exemption covered last time, I'm gonna take that same line when I get the bill this time.

Thanks to this thread, I emailed my doctor to do a follow up as I think Druff and I got this procedure done at the same timeframe last time.

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Thanks to this thread, I emailed my doctor to do a follow up as I think Druff and I got this procedure done at the same timeframe last time.

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If you had no polyps last time, and no family history of colon cancer/polyps, you can go 5-10 years between them.

And once you're old enough, if no polyps have ever been found, you can stop them completely, as the risk of the procedure no longer justifies any possible preventative gain. My mom does not get them anymore for this reason. I am stuck doing them for life.

I got off cheap this time.

Expected a 4-figure bill. They gave me all kinds of crazy figures on the phone last year, but couldn't fully explain them.

When I got there, they collected about $300 from me, for my "expected patient responsibility". I thought to myself that I'd be happy if it ended up just that amount, plus the $65 for the useless initial e-visit (required), plus the $200 for the propofol which I was going to try and fight with insurance to pay.

Anyway, the bills and EOBs came.

Propofol was covered somehow this time, and my portion was $47.

The colonoscopy itself was.... ZERO POINT ZERO.

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They cut me a check back for the amount I paid at the appointment.

So it looks like the entire thing cost me $112.

Maybe it's because they found nothing, but who knows? Not going to question it.

Druff Daniel Negreanu is stealing your Colonoscopy content

:lol3

https://twitter.com/RealKidPoker/sta...11049186832452

He probably dropped some N bombs in Jamaican Dexter accent which were surreptitiously edited out

Had Colonoscopy #6 today. Prep was disgusting as always, the better tasting junk cost extra.

It’s only two pints of prep so pretty easy to power through it.

5 years til #7.

Mom killed by colon cancer and inept doctors back in the day only looking as far as Sigmoid colon.

I am a few months late of my second one, what I found is the procedure itself is easy as you don't remember any of it while it happens, but yeah the prep sucks. The first bottle I can handle at 7pm, the second one at 5am not so much. I remember vividly puking sitting on the toilet all over my knees. They say after the procedure never to sign any financial documents or legal documents until 4 hours has passed. I can see why, I made two phone calls after I was done, before I slept half a day, I have zero recollection of either call. I talked to both people the next day, they say I sounded perfectly normal, but I could not remember any of it, scary shit. I believe the drugs they put in you killed Michael Jackson.

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I am a few months late of my second one, what I found is the procedure itself is easy as you don't remember any of it while it happens, but yeah the prep sucks. The first bottle I can handle at 7pm, the second one at 5am not so much. I remember vividly puking sitting on the toilet all over my knees. They say after the procedure never to sign any financial documents or legal documents until 4 hours has passed. I can see why, I made two phone calls after I was done, before I slept half a day, I have zero recollection of either call. I talked to both people the next day, they say I sounded perfectly normal, but I could not remember any of it, scary shit. I believe the drugs they put in you killed Michael Jackson.

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The good tasting stuff is called SuFlave, maybe see if you can get it.

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I am a few months late of my second one, what I found is the procedure itself is easy as you don't remember any of it while it happens, but yeah the prep sucks. The first bottle I can handle at 7pm, the second one at 5am not so much. I remember vividly puking sitting on the toilet all over my knees. They say after the procedure never to sign any financial documents or legal documents until 4 hours has passed. I can see why, I made two phone calls after I was done, before I slept half a day, I have zero recollection of either call. I talked to both people the next day, they say I sounded perfectly normal, but I could not remember any of it, scary shit. I believe the drugs they put in you killed Michael Jackson.

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Good thing you are used to taking it up the ass.

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I am a few months late of my second one, what I found is the procedure itself is easy as you don't remember any of it while it happens, but yeah the prep sucks. The first bottle I can handle at 7pm, the second one at 5am not so much. I remember vividly puking sitting on the toilet all over my knees. They say after the procedure never to sign any financial documents or legal documents until 4 hours has passed. I can see why, I made two phone calls after I was done, before I slept half a day, I have zero recollection of either call. I talked to both people the next day, they say I sounded perfectly normal, but I could not remember any of it, scary shit. I believe the drugs they put in you killed Michael Jackson.

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Good thing you are used to taking it up the ass.

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It must be a sad sight when you get a colonoscopy, takes what three to lift you out of your wheel chair, and then remove your colon bag before you collapse on the table? Oh geez this fucking guy again the nurses must mutter. You probably splatter liquid shit all over them during the procedure. Every nurse probably requests the day off when they see your name in the appointment book.

A relative of mine went for a colonoscopy today at the same place I went last time. Keep in mind this is a different facility from the one I used in 2021, but the same as the one I did in late 2023.

My experience was, no pun intended, shitty.

Recall this is what I wrote in December 2023:

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Oddly they were concerned that I drank water 4 1/2 hours before the procedure (which became 5 1/2 because they were running late), because their instructions said "not to drink after midnight". However, they both told me on the phone that I could drink up to 4 hours beforehand, and their afternoon colonoscopy instructions also state you can drink up to 4 hours before. So it made zero sense why they were annoyed. My guess is because they were running behind, they didn't want another thing to worry about.

They said they would "empty my stomach" while I was knocked out, in order to prevent aspiration of the water in there. Transparent to me because I was asleep for it.

Not sure what I'll do next time, as I really don't want to go an absurd number of hours with no water. I was already thirsty as it was.

Anyway I'll worry about this in 3 1/2 years when I do my next one.

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I was unhappy about this whole thing because I couldn't get a straight answer out of them regarding how long to avoid drinking before the procedure.

Note above that there were dueling instruction sheets on their website -- one which said "no drinking after midnight" (which would be a minimum of 7 hours, as their first procedure is at 7am), and the other which said "no drinking more than 4 hours beforehand".

So I was annoyed that I got a lecture about not following instructions for having drank 5 1/2 hours before the procedure.

But the bigger problem was how late they were. My procedure was 9:30am, with an 8:30am checkin time. They didn't get going with this until 11am, meaning they were 90 minutes late. That's probably why they were annoyed they were going to have to waste extra time "emptying my stomach".

Anyway, upon reading reviews, I saw that lateness is a chronic problem there. Some reviews claimed they were as much as 3 hours late.

However, that paled in comparison to what my relative went through.

Like me, this person sat for 90 minutes past their assigned time, waiting for it to start. Then they were informed that the anesthesiologist "didn't show up", which was bizarre because this was now 10:00am. How could they not know this until 3 hours into the day?

They claimed that the only options would be to reschedule (awful, having gone through the prep) or to take "twilight sedation", which basically takes you back to the 1990s before propofol was available. Amazingly, everyone there just shrugged their shoulders and took the twilight sedation, without questioning anything. My relative spoke up and said absolutely not, I don't want to be awake for this at all, and I also don't want to have wasted my prep and time spent here this morning. After a lot of arguing, they convinced another doctor and anesthesiologist in the facility to do the colonoscopy, so the propofol could be used. Not sure why it also had to be a different doctor, but I'll get to my theory in a second.

Anyway, this place is full of fail. They're nearly impossible to reach on the phone, you can't get a straight answer out of them when you do, and apparently they overbook the colonoscopies and run way behind. I am not going back there.

What do I think happened today? I think they fell so behind today that they made up the "anesthesiologist didn't show up" story, because it sounded better than the truth. By cutting out the propofol, which is time consuming, they can speed everything up and catch up. I think the reason the doctor also switched was because that was who was behind. If it were just the anesthesiologist, why not keep the same doctor and use the other anesthesiologist? I guess it's possible they work in pairs, but the fact that they took 3 hours to realize that the anesthesiologist didn't show up is highly suspect, especially given how this place is known to run way behind.

Inconvenience aside, I also don't trust this place to do my colonoscopy anymore, if they're always in a rush. Not only can they miss polyps that way (now I'm a little concerned about my unexpected "no polyps" result last time), but they can also perforate the colon if they are rushing through it.

My advice: Check reviews, avoid anywhere that the reviews suck.

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A relative of mine went for a colonoscopy today at the same place I went last time. Keep in mind this is a different facility from the one I used in 2021, but the same as the one I did in late 2023.

My experience was, no pun intended, shitty.

Recall this is what I wrote in December 2023:

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Oddly they were concerned that I drank water 4 1/2 hours before the procedure (which became 5 1/2 because they were running late), because their instructions said "not to drink after midnight". However, they both told me on the phone that I could drink up to 4 hours beforehand, and their afternoon colonoscopy instructions also state you can drink up to 4 hours before. So it made zero sense why they were annoyed. My guess is because they were running behind, they didn't want another thing to worry about.

They said they would "empty my stomach" while I was knocked out, in order to prevent aspiration of the water in there. Transparent to me because I was asleep for it.

Not sure what I'll do next time, as I really don't want to go an absurd number of hours with no water. I was already thirsty as it was.

Anyway I'll worry about this in 3 1/2 years when I do my next one.

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I was unhappy about this whole thing because I couldn't get a straight answer out of them regarding how long to avoid drinking before the procedure.

Note above that there were dueling instruction sheets on their website -- one which said "no drinking after midnight" (which would be a minimum of 7 hours, as their first procedure is at 7am), and the other which said "no drinking more than 4 hours beforehand".

So I was annoyed that I got a lecture about not following instructions for having drank 5 1/2 hours before the procedure.

But the bigger problem was how late they were. My procedure was 9:30am, with an 8:30am checkin time. They didn't get going with this until 11am, meaning they were 90 minutes late. That's probably why they were annoyed they were going to have to waste extra time "emptying my stomach".

Anyway, upon reading reviews, I saw that lateness is a chronic problem there. Some reviews claimed they were as much as 3 hours late.

However, that paled in comparison to what my relative went through.

Like me, this person sat for 90 minutes past their assigned time, waiting for it to start. Then they were informed that the anesthesiologist "didn't show up", which was bizarre because this was now 10:00am. How could they not know this until 3 hours into the day?

They claimed that the only options would be to reschedule (awful, having gone through the prep) or to take "twilight sedation", which basically takes you back to the 1990s before propofol was available. Amazingly, everyone there just shrugged their shoulders and took the twilight sedation, without questioning anything. My relative spoke up and said absolutely not, I don't want to be awake for this at all, and I also don't want to have wasted my prep and time spent here this morning. After a lot of arguing, they convinced another doctor and anesthesiologist in the facility to do the colonoscopy, so the propofol could be used. Not sure why it also had to be a different doctor, but I'll get to my theory in a second.

Anyway, this place is full of fail. They're nearly impossible to reach on the phone, you can't get a straight answer out of them when you do, and apparently they overbook the colonoscopies and run way behind. I am not going back there.

What do I think happened today? I think they fell so behind today that they made up the "anesthesiologist didn't show up" story, because it sounded better than the truth. By cutting out the propofol, which is time consuming, they can speed everything up and catch up. I think the reason the doctor also switched was because that was who was behind. If it were just the anesthesiologist, why not keep the same doctor and use the other anesthesiologist? I guess it's possible they work in pairs, but the fact that they took 3 hours to realize that the anesthesiologist didn't show up is highly suspect, especially given how this place is known to run way behind.

Inconvenience aside, I also don't trust this place to do my colonoscopy anymore, if they're always in a rush. Not only can they miss polyps that way (now I'm a little concerned about my unexpected "no polyps" result last time), but they can also perforate the colon if they are rushing through it.

My advice: Check reviews, avoid anywhere that the reviews suck.

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The big issue is if they missed polyps is you insisted on drinking gatorade, rather than drinking the solution they recommended which actually cleans you out. The solution forces you to shit everything out of your system, gatorade does not do that. You sound like Steve Jobs who insisted on eating vitamins to cure his cancer, even he admitted at the end he should have just followed mainstream treatments rather than do his own thing. If one day you start crapping blood, look in the mirror and admit you fucked up.

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Originally Posted by tgull

The big issue is if they missed polyps is you insisted on drinking gatorade, rather than drinking the solution they recommended which actually cleans you out. The solution forces you to shit everything out of your system, gatorade does not do that. You sound like Steve Jobs who insisted on eating vitamins to cure his cancer, even he admitted at the end he should have just followed mainstream treatments rather than do his own thing. If one day you start crapping blood, look in the mirror and admit you fucked up.

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My prep was listed as "good" on both after-visit forms, and they had no visibility issues.

The Gatorade prep has been considered just as good as the awful-tasting solution, and has been used for the past 20 years or so. Studies on the two preps show that the Gatorade is either equal or slightly better.

Also, Steve Jobs, while a weirdo, couldn't have beaten his cancer anyway. He had pancreatic cancer. You're fucked when diagnosed with that. About 5% get lucky and live awhile with it. Everyone else dies fast. It's the worst form of cancer.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by tgull

The big issue is if they missed polyps is you insisted on drinking gatorade, rather than drinking the solution they recommended which actually cleans you out. The solution forces you to shit everything out of your system, gatorade does not do that. You sound like Steve Jobs who insisted on eating vitamins to cure his cancer, even he admitted at the end he should have just followed mainstream treatments rather than do his own thing. If one day you start crapping blood, look in the mirror and admit you fucked up.

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My prep was listed as "good" on both after-visit forms, and they had no visibility issues.

The Gatorade prep has been considered just as good as the awful-tasting solution, and has been used for the past 20 years or so. Studies on the two preps show that the Gatorade is either equal or slightly better.

Also, Steve Jobs, while a weirdo, couldn't have beaten his cancer anyway. He had pancreatic cancer. You're fucked when diagnosed with that. About 5% get lucky and live awhile with it. Everyone else dies fast. It's the worst form of cancer.

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That's just RFK shit. If Gatorade were better, insurance companies would embrace it, it would be 90% cheaper. You are just making stuff up, I have known many people have colonoscopys never once did I hear the gatorade treatment until, well you, but most people do not search the internet for medical treatments. As far as Jobs go, he had the pancreatic cancer that was curable, like the 10% kind, it was caught early not late. He was just too stubborn not to radiate it at its source and decided to do the organic shit. He waited a year before going mainstream treatments, then he got very sick and decided to get his head right. He did live another 7 years, which is unusual for pancreatic cancer, but here again, he did not have the fatal kind initially. If he had not fucked around with homemade gatorade treatments he might have made it another 10 years.

Tgull is correct on Jobs, he had the better version of Pacreatic cancer.

Just last Saturday I met a guy with pancreatic cancer, said he had just retired and was diagnosed 13 weeks later. He was watching the OU v Alabama game saying that he and Jalen Hurts’ father were friends.

Felt sorry for him, he was bald from the chemo, I thought him and his wife were leaving but it turns out they just went outside to smoke.

Dude is pulling a Swayze.