where is @BCR ??

To be brutally honest and short, I simply played the liberals at their own game here. In real life, the Trump Admin is doing that to the left and they are losing their minds.

And what a bunch of whining crybabies and whiners- melt downs EXACTLY like in real life. If it’s not their way, they whine, cry and attack. You don’t see the majority good members of this board bitching. Good members like Boz, Rizzo, Split, country678, FTJesus, Garrett, tgull, etc. way more GOID members here like me, verse a small handful of resident regards. Rather it’s ok for Sonatine to do his weekly BS and annoy everyone with bogus AI results

The alternative is letting the liberals take over this BBS and it dying again. Last tine, this once was dead. Or we could let the liberals in here keep posting gay porn pics like what’s still up, that will def kill the board again.

Add- I say liberals, left and libtards here and I’m not even right-winged, conservative or GOP, I’m a non-label.

Well, I'm glad BCR at least dropped an explanation.

To answer his (and other people's) questions as to why I haven't banned or restricted desertrunner...

It's not a reluctance to have to put energy into dealing with the fallout of banning him. If you recall, I banned him once before (and it stuck for a long time). Many predicted a SixToedPete Part Deux. That didn't happen. Instead, I explained privately why I banned him, he said he disagreed but understood, and the friendship went on as if none of this ever occurred. Which is what I expected, to be honest. I've known him 15 years, and never once observed any kind of psychotic or stalkerish behavior -- towards me or anybody. In real life, he's a nice guy with a good heart.

So if I'm not concerned about the fallout, why haven't I banned him?

As I've stated before, he brings content and discussion topics. If you scroll through this subforum, you'll see that some get serious engagement, while others get ignored. But overall his thread creation has been a net positive.

What hasn't been a net positive is his disdain for the old school NWP/DD/PFA community (which is why this subforum exists at all), and his instant reflex to attack any critics as "liberals". This especially makes no sense because many of the people criticizing him are either middle of the road politically, or even right wing. Some good examples include Tellafriend, gut, and go_buccos. None of those three guys are liberal. All three of them are also intelligent.

I will be making a decision soon regarding what to do about desertrunner here. It upsets me that BCR has left, and that others are on the verge of leaving. As I said on the radio show, it exists for the listeners, not for me. Same with the forum, for the most part. While my own enjoyment of the forum is obviously important, I actually find it more important that the lurkers and posters enjoy it. It's true that desertrunner has far more critics than supporters -- and these critics are unhappy about his posting style/frequency, not his opinions.

desertrunner, I have to say that if you completely disregard what the forum community as a whole says, and if you look at the "old school posters" with complete disdain, you're going to end up banned here. That's not what I want, but that's what is going to happen. This community has existed for 21+ years over 3 different sites, with PFA comprising over 13 of those years. I can't let one person run everyone off, even if he's my personal friend.

I will keep this short, if I get banned here, the same 3 resident cancer liberal members here will over tun the place, scare off the good people and this place will die again. Please screen shot this post so when it happens, there will be no guessing or wondering "Why is it dead in here" like before, 2 years ago. The place is thriving now because 5 of us act normal and mature here vs the 3 resident clowns. Mickeycrimm even has it in his signature where he slams Sonatine, VCR and Sloppy Joe- nothing to do with me. Even he sees it.

When this place does unfortunately die, there is will be a off topic excuse made like- "Well, 2+2 died and it was just our turn now" when the real reason was- the liberals took over the board and ran everyone off. Thats why Snow left, he told me over the phone. Thats why the real life poker player at the WSOP complained in real life about the N word here- it was used by a few here and the last person to use it was Sloppy Joe when he called me a "sand nig", but that activity gets looked over, right?

As for the flashlight topic, everyone else keeps bringing it up, not me.

I would ban Sonatine, BCR and Sloppy Joe first and just sdee how it goes here. Cut hte cancer out, not embrace it.

I can't believe we're even talking about banning desertrunner. Why can't people just put him on ignore if they hate him so much? The truth of the matter is that the people who regularly shit on desertrunner actually love doing it. Its all highly entertaining for sure.

desertrunner is his own unique self and should be accepted with whatever faults he's perceived to have. Why can't the people who dislike him just try to see the good through the bad and let him be? None of you are perfect people even as some of you like to preach about inclusion and diversity.

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I can't believe we're even talking about banning desertrunner. Why can't people just put him on ignore if they hate him so much? The truth of the matter is that the people who regularly shit on desertrunner actually love doing it. Its all highly entertaining for sure.

desertrunner is his own unique self and should be accepted with whatever faults he's perceived to have. Why can't the people who dislike him just try to see the good through the bad and let him be? None of you are perfect people even as some of you like to preach about inclusion and diversity.

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Country nailed it.

Examples- So many members, posts and threads here I just ignore and scroll past. Now what does Sonatine do- He see a posts by me, doesnt join the discussion and just posts up some self generated IA result screen shot about "desertrunner" and the left side say nothing.

Right now on the good side- we have about 7 people- tgull, garrett, country978, TheBoz, Split, FrankRizzo, FTJesus and desertrunner. NONE of these good members attack others or cause problems here.

Bad side- Sonatine, BCR, Sloppy Joe, Jayjami and TellaFriend- All seem hell bent on causing problems in here. Lets he honest, they purposely go after me because I call them out on their crap.

Me- If I ran a board or a business, I would want to remove the cancer and problem makers in my arena. And we have had this discussion so many times, yet its the same old problem people making the problems in here. But the other SEVEN people here dont complaint at all. Funny how its so obvious and all shakes down. Once the liberals take over this board again, its all over and will be like 2+2.

Lastly- The 3/4 cencer members here always start these new "alarm threads" to get Druff's attention, complain about desertrunner and bait him into banning me. Druff- dont fall for the liberal crybaby tactics and take the bait.

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If anyone is running people off here, its the liberal retard with the IA program postings.

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I’d be concerned if he hadn’t logged in on 7/6. I know he has been annoyed with desertrunner and a few of the other posters here.

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Then the dude has thin skin if thats the case. Learn to be tough on the internet.

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Shut the fuck up Sonatine you run more new posters off more then anyone, you plaster this board all day with your non-sense people do not care about

Now Shut Up finally and Druff you should limit this idiot, plasters the bulletin all day everyday, with bullshit

Have a nice day!

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G is 100% SPOT ON HERE. Sonatine ruins the PFA experience for everyone here, especially his pedo-like follow the member behavior, it gets fucking old.

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TheBoz- Good member.
Garrett aka G Man- Good member.
JeffDime- Good member.
Mother Druff- Good member, but not that visible
Brutal Thinker- Good dude, just hates me.

BCR- Historically a crap libtard member here, but been cool lately.

Sonatine- A cancer to PFA and continues to tarnish Druff's poker reputation. Should ban him.

DanDruff- Probably ban him too, he stopped doing PDA radio, fail. He also still owes my free roll money, flake. ;)

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See here you go AGAIN

Vouching his nonsense post about a Suit or Tuxedo in Asia, or wherever the fuck . Druff it would be nice if you actually popped in half Sonatines garbage front board posts in Flying Stupidity, you clearly agree with his nonsense. Anyway Sonatine is a friend and must have staked you BIG time because you let him be an absolute disaster at the behest of your own reputation in poker, hes that fucking bad Druff. No one wonders who Sonatine is, or thinks can he even play poker, nothing hes a loser or a pet pocket buddy who just agrees with you, to make you feeel better. Either way its not good.

Have a nice day.

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Damn, Garrett is 100% spot on correct here on all points. I wish Druff would take the proper corrective action as well. And YES, Sonatine is tarnishing Druff online poker reputation here.

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Come on guys, let Druff live out his remaining months in his way.

We are all going to come together and admit we miss him when the day comes.

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Pray for Druff!

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i think the guy is an asshole myself (BCR) , if you express a different view other than his, he resorts to name calling and tries to degrade you, and he resorts to the name calling first in debate type situations, he definitely thinks he is never wrong and definitely thinks he's always right and proves this by calling you stupid... (typical Liberal) it seems to me the only people he gets along with are his "yes men".

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Im glad you wrote this as I've been telling Druff for years that the libtards have been the problem on this board and he just doesnt believe me. Now more members are coming forward and saying the exaact same thing. Maybe Druff will take action now and save PFA.

This is also why I posted here two years ago that I suggest not allowing personal attacks as it kills any bulletin board. The new owners of 2+2 saw my post here and adapted that as a new policy, Druff even covered the topic on PFA radio. The 3 same people here constantly attacking the good members here will eventually kill the board, again. Time to remove the cancer.

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2+2 is a ghost town, so that's not exactly a good example of how to run a forum.

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Respectfully, but its not a ghost town because of that specific "no personal attack" policy, its dead because people are leaving bulletin boards and migrating over to Reddit, X, etc, as been written here before. Removing personal attacks also removed doxing and potential legal action. No one wants to be attacked online and it scares users away. PFA was dead about 1-2 years ago and then came back to life. Again, personal attacks kill a BBS, not help it bloom.

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You are truly fucking insufferable.

When I said the EXACT SAME THING in response to you in a different thread you told me I was full of shit and that people were leaving here because of “the libtards.”

You can’t even keep your own story straight.

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Yes, you did write that, but I know I did not say "full of shit" back to you. And yes, some people have left PFA because of the liberals and their constant antics here, I know this for fact. So we are both correct.

As for the actual topic- personal attacks do kill bulletin board systems, once people see others getting doxed, harassed, etc, they will leave.

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About 1-2 years ago, I left his board and came back. When I came back, the Flying Stupidity section was dead. I specifically remember this because I was shocked to see it. And I know why- the crazy liberals here like Walt, etc were pissing off people and they were leaving. I stand by what I am saying because I'm not going to lie here. As the crazy libs leave this board, the more busier it becomes. Walt is gone, BCR is gone and the place is better, straight up.

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Todd advertised PFA as a “free speech” site. Anything went. No moderation despite continuous pleas. Worked for a while. Fun experiment.

Lotta shit talk and ridicule ensued. Dick pics, gay porn and food. It was high comedy. Posters were clever as fuck. I was not one of them.

lol wow and sonatine are the last remnants of the old school. They ridicule one another but the aim isn’t to shut the other down. The opposite. It tends to go on for pages.

No. Today we are looking to cancel members. Lol libtards. It’s working.

I’m kinda a free speech guy. Zero tomato policy. Ideas don’t offend me. That’s not the fashion now. PFA might also be a reflection of how society in general has changed in the past 15 years. Less tolerant and less fun.

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Yes, this place "free speech" and "no censorship", with some exceptions.

I honestly dont care who was "old school" here as this same old statement keeps coming up. Like a few of you keep putting on your old high school letter men jackets and just want to talk about the old days. Its over, its 2025, new people are here and keeping this place afloat. seriously, why do a small handful of you keep insisting to force "old school" here?? No one cares, live in the now.

As fro canceling members- We are tired of the same old shit here from a few that want to ruin it for all of us. The same old Sonatine BS with the AI screen shots ,etc...it gets old. The same old personal attacks here by the same liberal members-super old and lame.

So BCR left, good, there are 2 more clowns here that are hurting Druff's website and once they are gone, it will be a much better place.

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It’s always the same old tired material played in here from the liberals.

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To be brutally honest and short, I simply played the liberals at their own game here. In real life, the Trump Admin is doing that to the left and they are losing their minds.

And what a bunch of whining crybabies and whiners- melt downs EXACTLY like in real life. If it’s not their way, they whine, cry and attack. You don’t see the majority good members of this board bitching. Good members like Boz, Rizzo, Split, country678, FTJesus, Garrett, tgull, etc. way more GOID members here like me, verse a small handful of resident regards. Rather it’s ok for Sonatine to do his weekly BS and annoy everyone with bogus AI results

The alternative is letting the liberals take over this BBS and it dying again. Last tine, this once was dead. Or we could let the liberals in here keep posting gay porn pics like what’s still up, that will def kill the board again.

Add- I say liberals, left and libtards here and I’m not even right-winged, conservative or GOP, I’m a non-label.

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I will keep this short, if I get banned here, the same 3 resident cancer liberal members here will over tun the place, scare off the good people and this place will die again. Please screen shot this post so when it happens, there will be no guessing or wondering "Why is it dead in here" like before, 2 years ago. The place is thriving now because 5 of us act normal and mature here vs the 3 resident clowns. Mickeycrimm even has it in his signature where he slams Sonatine, VCR and Sloppy Joe- nothing to do with me. Even he sees it.

When this place does unfortunately die, there is will be a off topic excuse made like- "Well, 2+2 died and it was just our turn now" when the real reason was- the liberals took over the board and ran everyone off. Thats why Snow left, he told me over the phone. Thats why the real life poker player at the WSOP complained in real life about the N word here- it was used by a few here and the last person to use it was Sloppy Joe when he called me a "sand nig", but that activity gets looked over, right?

As for the flashlight topic, everyone else keeps bringing it up, not me.

I would ban Sonatine, BCR and Sloppy Joe first and just sdee how it goes here. Cut hte cancer out, not embrace it.

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I can't believe we're even talking about banning desertrunner. Why can't people just put him on ignore if they hate him so much? The truth of the matter is that the people who regularly shit on desertrunner actually love doing it. Its all highly entertaining for sure.

desertrunner is his own unique self and should be accepted with whatever faults he's perceived to have. Why can't the people who dislike him just try to see the good through the bad and let him be? None of you are perfect people even as some of you like to preach about inclusion and diversity.

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Country nailed it.

Examples- So many members, posts and threads here I just ignore and scroll past. Now what does Sonatine do- He see a posts by me, doesnt join the discussion and just posts up some self generated IA result screen shot about "desertrunner" and the left side say nothing.

Right now on the good side- we have about 7 people- tgull, garrett, country978, TheBoz, Split, FrankRizzo, FTJesus and desertrunner. NONE of these good members attack others or cause problems here.

Bad side- Sonatine, BCR, Sloppy Joe, Jayjami and TellaFriend- All seem hell bent on causing problems in here. Lets he honest, they purposely go after me because I call them out on their crap.

Me- If I ran a board or a business, I would want to remove the cancer and problem makers in my arena. And we have had this discussion so many times, yet its the same old problem people making the problems in here. But the other SEVEN people here dont complaint at all. Funny how its so obvious and all shakes down. Once the liberals take over this board again, its all over and will be like 2+2.

Lastly- The 3/4 cencer members here always start these new "alarm threads" to get Druff's attention, complain about desertrunner and bait him into banning me. Druff- dont fall for the liberal crybaby tactics and take the bait.

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Definitions from Oxford Language

in·cor·ri·gi·ble

/ˌinˈkôrəjəb(ə)l/


(of a person or their tendencies) not able to be corrected, improved, or reformed.

Personally I think Tellafriemd is a great member and contributes a lot here without being an asshole. Never had an issue with him and no clue where he stands politically and don’t really care. Why? Because he doesn’t throw it in your face like other do.

Hell I don’t even mind Les and he’s far left, in a Canuck way. But Sonatine is truly leftist garbage. Again, I don’t know the entire story behind him or his gimmick, but it sucks as a human or a gimmick. Who knows, maybe he used to be “someone” but fucked it up and is living off past glory? Or maybe he was always a fat piece of shit living alone.

But back to the original subject it’s easy to tell BCR is trying to leverage threatening to leave to get Druff to ban DR. Total pussy move but right out of the leftist playbook.

As for Druff caring about the “original” guys, ask yourself, how much money did these fucks make you and how much aggravation did they, and this forum cost you?

And as a newer member, I’m laughing at all of you fucks for not following the guy who it appears could have made you all multi multi millionaires. Now THAT’S a valuable member, not some chili eating fat fuck liberal living alone with nothing in life outside this forum.

ALL YOU FAGGOTS TAKING SHIT SERIOUSLY IF YOU CANT HANDLE IT, BLOCK IT CRYBABY FAGGOTS.

LEAVE NOBODY CARES.

LIBERAL FAGGOTS ROFL.

GO SELL A CAR AND WHINE, PUSSY.

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ALL YOU FAGGOTS TAKING SHIT SERIOUSLY IF YOU CANT HANDLE IT, BLOCK IT CRYBABY FAGGOTS.

LEAVE NOBODY CARES.

LIBERAL FAGGOTS ROFL.

GO SELL A CAR AND WHINE, PUSSY.

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Stop crying you ugly bitch

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To be brutally honest and short, I simply played the liberals at their own game here. In real life, the Trump Admin is doing that to the left and they are losing their minds.

And what a bunch of whining crybabies and whiners- melt downs EXACTLY like in real life. If it’s not their way, they whine, cry and attack. You don’t see the majority good members of this board bitching. Good members like Boz, Rizzo, Split, country678, FTJesus, Garrett, tgull, etc. way more GOID members here like me, verse a small handful of resident regards. Rather it’s ok for Sonatine to do his weekly BS and annoy everyone with bogus AI results

The alternative is letting the liberals take over this BBS and it dying again. Last tine, this once was dead. Or we could let the liberals in here keep posting gay porn pics like what’s still up, that will def kill the board again.

Add- I say liberals, left and libtards here and I’m not even right-winged, conservative or GOP, I’m a non-label.

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You try to act tough but youre clearly beta trash. If you think youre tough, we can set something up like Micon and dirty b had. We are both in cali, Druff can record. Let's do it, buttercup

Embarrassing crybaby shit.

Disgusting weak display.

STFU

No bans there is the ignore button.

Bcr is a crybaby liberal fag.

Druff, the ugly bitch is still crying and ruining this thread

We go through this exact same stuff about 1-2 times a year when the resident liberals here get angry and their only outlet here is to attack the other members and then that doesnt work, they go crying to Druff complaining about desertrunner. And then Druff has to publicly shame me to make them feel better and then they get their feelings hurt again and the cycle starts all over again. This is nothing new.

Shut up pussy

I like BCR's posts, but I had no idea he was not posting any longer to be honest. I mean message boards are dead and + no online poker any longer means a slow death for this forum. It's been dying for years, you see an innocuous post bumped from say 2013 with 5 replies and it has 10,000 views. Now to get 10,000 views you need like 7 pages and it usually has to be about Trump.

Posters, the regulars, are just moving on and in some cases dying off, I believe in say 2027 or so you maybe will have 25 active posters. At least Micon before he was a bitcoin millionaire had the pride and decency to close up shop with dignity. This place here reminds me of one of those Spring football leagues with 900 people in the stands. I mean its over, though Druff would look up and say hey we still have a crowd here. Yeah, a bunch of 40-60 year olds most with medical conditions. I mean we have 1 female on this board, a 64 year old splitthis, who reminds us all of Zira from the Planet of the Apes.


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Embarrassing crybaby shit.

Disgusting weak display.

STFU

No bans there is the ignore button.

Bcr is a crybaby liberal fag.

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Is that it bcr? you're a crybaby liberal fag? I mean, c'mon dude. You're leaving the betting thread or the next thread about some crazy event you know a lot about? You're not gonna offer your insights about the next big story in sports? So weak.

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I can't believe we're even talking about banning desertrunner. Why can't people just put him on ignore if they hate him so much? The truth of the matter is that the people who regularly shit on desertrunner actually love doing it. Its all highly entertaining for sure.

desertrunner is his own unique self and should be accepted with whatever faults he's perceived to have. Why can't the people who dislike him just try to see the good through the bad and let him be? None of you are perfect people even as some of you like to preach about inclusion and diversity.

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Country nailed it.

Examples- So many members, posts and threads here I just ignore and scroll past. Now what does Sonatine do- He see a posts by me, doesnt join the discussion and just posts up some self generated IA result screen shot about "desertrunner" and the left side say nothing.

Right now on the good side- we have about 7 people- tgull, garrett, country978, TheBoz, Split, FrankRizzo, FTJesus and desertrunner. NONE of these good members attack others or cause problems here.

Bad side- Sonatine, BCR, Sloppy Joe, Jayjami and TellaFriend- All seem hell bent on causing problems in here. Lets he honest, they purposely go after me because I call them out on their crap.

Me- If I ran a board or a business, I would want to remove the cancer and problem makers in my arena. And we have had this discussion so many times, yet its the same old problem people making the problems in here. But the other SEVEN people here dont complaint at all. Funny how its so obvious and all shakes down. Once the liberals take over this board again, its all over and will be like 2+2.

Lastly- The 3/4 cencer members here always start these new "alarm threads" to get Druff's attention, complain about desertrunner and bait him into banning me. Druff- dont fall for the liberal crybaby tactics and take the bait.

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LOL Druff continuing to get humiliated by his pet retard but the entertainment of this dalliance has long run its course. If we're really doing another iteration of two autistic 50 year old navigating their relationship on an internet forum I'm out. Bye faggots.

 

garrett is god

As long as BCR continues to participate in sports threads, im happy. I generally ignore the rest anyway.

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We go through this exact same stuff about 1-2 times a year when the resident liberals here get angry and their only outlet here is to attack the other members and then that doesnt work, they go crying to Druff complaining about desertrunner. And then Druff has to publicly shame me to make them feel better and then they get their feelings hurt again and the cycle starts all over again. This is nothing new.

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Holy fuck you are retarded. Cimmple might be more cogent than you.