no more Jews sounds like a good thing to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
If the arabs put down their guns there would be no more war, if Israel puts down their guns there would be no more jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
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no more Jews sounds like a good thing to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsIf the arabs put down their guns there would be no more war, if Israel puts down their guns there would be no more jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Yes, this is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by KalamMeh. People believe the propaganda they are conditioned to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I think a lot of this has to do with Western media and Western leaders (with Trump being the exception) aligning with Hamas and putting all the onus on Israel to give in to end the conflict.
If our media and leaders had spent the last 1.5 years directing 90% of criticism on Hamas, taking at face value every negative claim made against Hamas, and urging them to give up the hostages and abdicate for peace, while giving Israel mostly a free pass, the narrative and public sentiment would be completely different.
The western media is largely at fault for this. I'm not saying otherwise. I'm just stating that Israel is losing the propaganda war, and it disappoints me that even a lot of normally smart/skeptical people are falling for it.
I have a hard time believing the word of a single "whistleblower" here, because you don't know his motivations.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar
Israel won't let in any media because the media isn't going to just run a camera 24/7 and report everything happening. They're going to cherry-pick whatever fits their narrative. Israel can't win doing this. If they let in media known to be pro-Israel, they will be accused of not showing the atrocities. If they let in media which isn't pro-Israel, they risk Hamas sympathizers showing IDF violence without context (such as only IDF's response to being attacked, but not the attack itself). It's tough to find truly neutral media in this situation.
Israel has no reason to mow down innocent Palestinian civilians. It does them no good, and can only bring harm to their PR. They're not even required or expected to bring in aid in the first place.
You can't believe reports from Hamas. Terrorist groups lie. That's been known for decades.
Fuck you and your gaslighting, toddler
What gaslighting?Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.
I'm giving you my honest take about the situation.
Do you trust Hamas? Do you trust reports about "Israeli atrocities", provided by those who have long hated Israel?
To me your anti-Israel position is just a knee-jerk extension of your longtime documented leftism.
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Originally Posted by Dan DruffWhat gaslighting?Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.
I'm giving you my honest take about the situation.
Do you trust Hamas? Do you trust reports about "Israeli atrocities", provided by those who have long hated Israel?
To me your anti-Israel position is just a knee-jerk extension of your longtime documented leftism.
All this could easily be verified one way or the other if Israel allowed foreign journalists inside Gaza. If you have nothing to hide, why block them?
Because the "journalists" will be people like you who will want to report from a direction of showing that Israel is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
All this could easily be verified one way or the other if Israel allowed foreign journalists inside Gaza. If you have nothing to hide, why block them?
And the journalists who would report fairly would be accused of being "bought by Israel" or some other nonsense.
So it's lose-lose for them.
The NY Times recently had to walk back a front-page article about a "starving" kid they pictured. They got conned, and were too wrapped up in the "omg genocide" narrative to stop and engage in critical thought.
You are also getting conned. There are holes the size of Mack trucks in the Hamas and "genocide" narratives, yet you can't see them. Maybe finally consider that Hamas is a group of religious fanatics who actually want to commit genocide, and are not good or trustworthy pepole? It's amazing to see so many leftists openly rooting for the bad guys who pretty much don't hide the fact that they're the bad guys.
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Originally Posted by Dan DruffBecause the "journalists" will be people like you who will want to report from a direction of showing that Israel is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.
And the journalists who would report fairly would be accused of being "bought by Israel" or some other nonsense.
So it's lose-lose for them.
The NY Times recently had to walk back a front-page article about a "starving" kid they pictured. They got conned, and were too wrapped up in the "omg genocide" narrative to stop and engage in critical thought.
You are also getting conned. There are holes the size of Mack trucks in the Hamas and "genocide" narratives, yet you can't see them. Maybe finally consider that Hamas is a group of religious fanatics who actually want to commit genocide, and are not good or trustworthy pepole? It's amazing to see so many leftists openly rooting for the bad guys who pretty much don't hide the fact that they're the bad guys.
Clown logic. They are hiding their blood thirst and the world is watching, Toddler.
Okay, keep choosing to be brainwashed by your hateful leftist influencers.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Clown logic. They are hiding their blood thirst and the world is watching, Toddler.
i posted this on the page before this one, it is 7 minutes long the guy does have a video clip where they fired on people in the crowd at 2 min. 30 sec. i would suggest to watch the 7 min. video in it's entirety... i don't think he has a reason to lie, he quit the contracting gig he signed up for cause he knows it is immoral... this is the ex special ops guy aka whistleblower... who quit the private contracting of helping the IDF at "aid sites"....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKpkZNAFwkc
You're a joke, Druff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffOkay, keep choosing to be brainwashed by your hateful leftist influencers.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover.
Yeah the 5.7 million in the US would for sure cease to exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsIf the arabs put down their guns there would be no more war, if Israel puts down their guns there would be no more jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
What kind of female feelings bullshit is that? Get a fucking grip
If the arabs put down their guns there would be no more war
:lol2
Ever consider establishing an ethno-state with nukes in the middle of a bunch of Arabs while displacing the ones in your way and bankrolled by the guys who slaughtered a ton of them is going to create problems?
Sometimes i can't help but wonder if Trump;'s a crypto Jew.
https://x.com/BallSniff777/status/1951299570928931249
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Originally Posted by Orko
lots of truth.
Those countries aren't our enemies. They are just not aligned on this one issue with the Trump administration. Most (all?) of those countries we have military alliances with, which we dont have with Israel. And have (or at least had before Trump) more robust trade alliances than with Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by TellafriendQuote:
Originally Posted by Orko
lots of truth.
I dont know what Fuentes actual argument is, but the premise is nonsense.
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Originally Posted by KalamThose countries aren't our enemies. They are just not aligned on this one issue with the Trump administration. Most (all?) of those countries we have military alliances with, which we dont have with Israel. And have (or at least had before Trump) more robust trade alliances than with Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
I dont know what Fuentes actual argument is, but the premise is nonsense.
I think you misunderstood what he said. Listen again. But more importantly, can we get cfb nfl futures from you I’ve got a gambling habit that isn’t paying for itself.
Israel and the US are finalizing an ultimatum to Hamas:
- Disarm the Gaza Strip
- Release all hostages
- Allow a temporary US-led administration in Gaza
If rejected, Israel will launch a full-scale military campaign to dismantle Hamas.
Source: Israeli Channel 12
quick reminder, trump already told you what his end game is here.
https://x.com/DBrozeLiveFree/status/1894804762614202692
quick reminder, emotionally intelligent jews want israel to end its orgy of violence as much as anyone.
https://x.com/clashreport/status/1951562626082787438