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05-31-2022, 09:51 AM
v12cl

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Originally Posted by Break Even

There is no reason to allow an 18 year old kid to buy an assault rifle on his birthday.....full stop. The slippery slope argument is ridiculous. Comparing an AR-15 assault rifle to a hand gun is like comparing a tank to a pea shooter.

Define "Assault Rifle"
05-31-2022, 10:58 AM
Texter

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Originally Posted by limitles

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Regarding mass school shootings when I was a student, let's look at the link you posted.

I entered elementary school in September 1977, and graduated high school in June 1990 -- 13 school years.

Let's look at the school shootings in that time period which resulted in more than 2 deaths and/or 8 injuries:

- January 29, 1979, San Diego, 2 dead, 9 injured. A 16-year-old female shooter opened fire on an elementary school from across the street.

- February 1984, Los Angeles, 3 dead, 12 injured. A shooter was firing at students leaving school (so this technically wasn't a shooting at school, but we will ignore that), and then shot himself dead.

- November 1985, Spanaway, WA, 3 dead, 0 injured. A crazy 14-year-old chick killed her ex-boyfriend and his buddy, and then killed herself. Doesn't count as a mass shooting, as this was a targeted murder.

- September 1988, Greenwood, SC, 2 dead, 9 injured. A 19-year-old entered an elementary school and started firing.

- January 1989, Stockton, CA, 6 dead, 32 injured. A 24-year-old man with a history of violence went into an elementary school and started firing, before killing himself.

Taking away the 1985 incident (which wasn't a mass shooting, as I stated), there were only 4 school shootings with more than 2 deaths or 8 injuries, across the entire US during my 13 years in school.

It should also be pointed out that the criminal incident causing the most injury in schools during those years didn't involve shooting -- it involved a bomb. In 1986, in Wyoming, a middle-aged couple took an elementary school hostage, and brought a bomb with them. The wife accidentally detonated the bomb, injuring herself and 73 students! The husband then shot her dead, shot an wounded a teacher, and shot himself dead. The bomb was obviously the thing doing the real damage here -- far more than the gun violence at the end (where only one was injured besides the two perpetrators).

These killers put time and planning into their crimes. If they can't do it with a gun, they will find some other way.

Re: your last point, why are hand grenades illegal?
Dumber than I had imagined.

Out of curiosity, did Europe do anything after those truck attacks where some radical would plow through a large crowd. Haven’t heard of any of those in several years.
05-31-2022, 12:18 PM
jdaewoo

Did some retard actually say the shooter was probably gay and/or trans?

Can that person back that up with any evidence whatsoever?
05-31-2022, 01:17 PM
Sloppy Joe

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Originally Posted by jdaewoo

Did some retard actually say the shooter was probably gay and/or trans?

Can that person back that up with any evidence whatsoever?

Was Druff just regurgitating conservative agitprop, per usual.
05-31-2022, 02:24 PM
DJ_Chaps

YA I THINK TODD FELL FOR THE FLORIDA PHOTO.
05-31-2022, 02:38 PM
Break Even

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Originally Posted by v12cl

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Originally Posted by Break Even

There is no reason to allow an 18 year old kid to buy an assault rifle on his birthday.....full stop. The slippery slope argument is ridiculous. Comparing an AR-15 assault rifle to a hand gun is like comparing a tank to a pea shooter.

Define "Assault Rifle"

The AR-15 assault rifle (and variations of it) have been the weapon of choice for many of these shootings. There's your definition, watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weG-QtQx2-0
05-31-2022, 04:28 PM
Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps

YA I THINK TODD FELL FOR THE FLORIDA PHOTO.

:wat

Which photo did I fall for?
05-31-2022, 05:11 PM
devidee

Uvalde PD and school district now refusing to cooperate with authorities investigating the shootings.

Totally normal, you guys.
05-31-2022, 05:43 PM
sonatine

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Originally Posted by devidee

Uvalde PD and school district now refusing to cooperate with authorities investigating the shootings.

Totally normal, you guys.

absolute lock that they ruby ridged a bunch of kids.
05-31-2022, 09:57 PM
MumblesBadly

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Originally Posted by Break Even

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Originally Posted by v12cl

Define "Assault Rifle"

The AR-15 assault rifle (and variations of it) have been the weapon of choice for many of these shootings. There's your definition, watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weG-QtQx2-0

civil co-liability for gun makers/distributors for deadly crimes commited using their products would incentivize participants in the gun market to properly vet potential customers for their likelihood to commit or enable others to commit such heinous crimes.

#GunViolenceAccountability
06-01-2022, 12:06 PM
Entropy

https://twitter.com/LifeIndiscreet/s...Cx4aaW270qAAAA

There's no counter argument, our gun laws are insane.
06-01-2022, 12:40 PM
Sanlmar

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Originally Posted by Entropy

https://twitter.com/LifeIndiscreet/s...Cx4aaW270qAAAA

There's no counter argument, our gun laws are insane.

His feelings align with my own.

We are America though. Little more violent. A little more lawless. In the past that was our advantage. Times have changed.

The best you can hope today is for solutions by state. It is what it is.
06-01-2022, 03:34 PM
DJ_Chaps

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps

YA I THINK TODD FELL FOR THE FLORIDA PHOTO.

:wat

Which photo did I fall for?

THE PHOTO THAT STARTED THE WHOLE GAY/TRANS MEME. AKA THE PHOTO OF THE ZI/ZER/ZEM FROM FLORIDA PASSED OFF AS TEXAS SHOOTER.
06-01-2022, 04:48 PM
Sloppy Joe

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Shithole country
06-01-2022, 04:54 PM
BCR

I heard there was another shooting. Looked at CNN. Only 3 dead, so on the side scroll. 3 isn’t worth breaking news. You need to pile up some serious bodies at this point to get top of page status.

Noticed an article about Florida law. I don’t have much nice to say about Florida Republicans, but this seems like an excellent piece of legislation. Kind of what I was hoping for in other thread, just common sense shit where you take guns away from mentally unstable people based on easy calls. Judges simply reviewing shit and saying we don’t need this person having a gun.

I’d like to see exactly this expanded. I was unaware this was passed after Parkland shooting.

Let the GOP do it as they seem to have crafted an excellent starting point law. and less fear of an overreach.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/01/polit...law/index.html
06-01-2022, 05:05 PM
devidee

51 people shot and 9 killed over the weekend in Chicago.

Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the nation.

Obviously, we need more gun laws.
06-01-2022, 05:29 PM
Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by devidee

51 people shot and 9 killed over the weekend in Chicago.

Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the nation.

Obviously, we need more gun laws.

I brought up something in similar, in response to a poker player's "Republicans don't care about gun deaths" post.

I pointed out that only a tiny percentage of gun crimes (and murders) in the US are via spree killings or assault rifles. I then asked for everyone in the thread to pledge that they support longer sentencing for anyone caught committing a crime with a gun.

The lefties on the page were mostly afraid to state this, and instead kept going to "but whuddabout assault rifles" or "longer sentences don't bring down crime". One genius even stated that our justice system shouldn't be punitive, only rehabilitative (lol).

Democrats are not serious about bringing down gun violence. They repeatedly oppose tougher punishment for violent crime.
06-01-2022, 05:38 PM
Sloppy Joe

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by devidee

51 people shot and 9 killed over the weekend in Chicago.

Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the nation.

Obviously, we need more gun laws.

I brought up something in similar, in response to a poker player's "Republicans don't care about gun deaths" post.

I pointed out that only a tiny percentage of gun crimes (and murders) in the US are via spree killings or assault rifles. I then asked for everyone in the thread to pledge that they support longer sentencing for anyone caught committing a crime with a gun.

The lefties on the page were mostly afraid to state this, and instead kept going to "but whuddabout assault rifles" or "longer sentences don't bring down crime". One genius even stated that our justice system shouldn't be punitive, only rehabilitative (lol).

Democrats are not serious about bringing down gun violence. They repeatedly oppose tougher punishment for violent crime.

Whuddabout Chicago, says clown man
06-01-2022, 05:52 PM
Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I brought up something in similar, in response to a poker player's "Republicans don't care about gun deaths" post.

I pointed out that only a tiny percentage of gun crimes (and murders) in the US are via spree killings or assault rifles. I then asked for everyone in the thread to pledge that they support longer sentencing for anyone caught committing a crime with a gun.

The lefties on the page were mostly afraid to state this, and instead kept going to "but whuddabout assault rifles" or "longer sentences don't bring down crime". One genius even stated that our justice system shouldn't be punitive, only rehabilitative (lol).

Democrats are not serious about bringing down gun violence. They repeatedly oppose tougher punishment for violent crime.

Whuddabout Chicago, says clown man

Sorry that your party keeps pushing woke DAs who release basically everyone back on the street, and big US cities (including yours) are becoming major shitholes.

But I'm glad that your woke buddies are on the assault rifles matter. When we reduce the 0.2% of murders committed with them, it should be safe to walk the streets again.

Enjoy Portland.
06-01-2022, 05:56 PM
Sloppy Joe

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe

Whuddabout Chicago, says clown man

Sorry that your party keeps pushing woke DAs who release basically everyone back on the street, and big US cities (including yours) are becoming major shitholes.

But I'm glad that your woke buddies are on the assault rifles matter. When we reduce the 0.2% of murders committed with them, it should be safe to walk the streets again.

Enjoy Portland.

How is anyone that connected to mass shootings, clown faggot?

Not good for you if hospitals are getting targeted.

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