The shocking thing is that there are some of the smartest guys on these boards completely counting him out. It's going to be close, and the race is just starting. It will probably go under +180 by mid August.
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Fivethirtyeight has it 60/40. I think Kerry had a similar lead in 2004 polls pre convention, and Hillary makes him look JFK by comparison. It really is just getting started.
That's his move, but how does he get Ohio when the very popular Republican governor won't endorse him. I don't really see Mike Pence overriding the Kasich snub.
Either way, I don't think Trump has zero chance, I'm pretty confident that he's going to lose. But any major party candidate has a chance. But Trump's path is small due to his numbers with Latinos essentially taking Florida out of the "swing states". He has to run the table in the midwest, minus Illinois.
He is going to latch on to the Portman infrastructure, who is running for reelection in the US Senate in Ohio. They are confident he will win going awya. Coupled with Pence who will drag the IN border counties, its deemed a lock. Pence is not widely known, except in that region where he grew up where he is widely popular. I was told its a lock, with all that said, I know nothing about grass root politics of random counties.
Ohio is the least of his troubles. He has to find a way to win PA, MI, and WI, too. But heavy Latino states like FL, CO are probably out. VA might have too many college whites to overcome.
The path for Trump is the midwest, I think it will be very difficult to pull off.
Samantha Bee is back on air after a three-week hiatus ― and she’s gone full throttle for Donald Trump’s vice-presidential choice, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence.
“Indiana voters hate Pence as much as Indiana Jones hates snakes,” the comedian said during her opening monologue on “Full Frontal With Samantha Bee” Monday night.
Bee showed footage of people booing Pence being while he threw out the first pitch at an Indiana baseball game, along with negative headlines criticizing him as being out of his league.
“Who is Mike Pence?” Bee asked during the segment. “If you’re a lady Hoosier, you may recognize him as the governor who inspected your reproductive organs every 30 days to make sure you weren’t using them in ways that would make Jesus sad.”
Bee pointed out that Pence signed a law requiring funerals for fetuses after an abortion or miscarriage.
“The law was blocked by a federal judge, but not before Pence had closed down every abortion clinic not equipped with a full complement of funeral bagpipers, you know, for the woman’s safety,” she said. “In that state, having a miscarriage could land you in jail for 20 years, so if you’re driving through Indiana and the contractions start, cross your legs and don’t stop till you’re in Chicago!”
Bee did see a positive in Pence being picked as the presumptive GOP presidential nominee’s Veep.
“Congratulations Indiana! You just got rid of one of the worst governors you’ve ever had,” she said, while offering condolences to the Garden State.
. Pence took more than 2 months to respond when there was an outbreak of HIV in Indiana.
When an outbreak of HIV rocked Scott County, Indiana, Mike Pence was nowhere to be found for 65 days, until he finally declared a public health emergency. It was just another contemptuous act in Pence’s repertoire as the opioid epidemic began to take over the state. Clean needle exchange programs were illegal in Indiana, but the outbreak helped change GOP minds.
A major contribution to the HIV outbreak was the GOP’s defunding of Planned Parenthood, which Pence launched. According to the Huffington Post, the Scott County clinic, along with four other Planned Parenthood facilities in the state, provided critical HIV testing and information. However, those clinics have been closed since 2011 after funding cuts to the state’s public health.
3. He’s one Koch’d up governor:
Mike Pence is one of the Koch brothers’ favorite elected leaders. Support from the Koch brothers and conservative donors are a major component in a presidential run, so having the major money people’s favorite guy at your side if you’re new to politics is certainly helpful for campaign cash. Americans for Prosperity has been holding up Mike Pence’s work in Indiana as a paragon of a good governor. Pence’s former chief of staff now runs the Koch’s political group Freedom Partners. Given the fact that the Koch’s have pledged to spend $1 billion in the 2016 election to support conservative candidates, his ties could be an asset to Trump as he realizes his own financial limitations.
This guy has sold out to the rich more times than druff has called the better business bureau.Fuck Mike Pence
Ok , let's do that. S bee IS A serious JOURNALIST from now on.
More gop fear mongering, 4 days of nonstop fear mongering.
With a few usa usa chants added in
I'm worried. Trump gave a speech that Mussolini could have given.... "I alone can fix this". It's fucking freaky. This guy could be president and the world could literally end.
Trump is no different than a senile old man. You just give him the keys to the car to hold onto, but they're not even the keys to the car.
they'll have to explain to him what the MAD doctrine is before he gets the nuclear football.
"No sir, you can't launch at Cuba, or China, or Russia. No one has first strike capability yet. Mutally Assured Destruction sir, not Mothers Against Drunk driving."
I don't get it. Crime is down. Illegal immigration is down. Is this speech only for people that stay glued to Fox all day long? There's very little economy stuff at all. It's just an old man screaming about brown people coming to kill me.
TRUMP GOING HARD IN THE PAINT YALL
What % of just bleed ufc fans will be voting for trump?
If Trump wins Ohio it will be because of a broader national trend. If he pulls Ohio, all the other states will collapse to Trump. Like I said, I am thinking a huge bet on Trump tomorrow since he nailed this speech. I just need to navigate my risk tolerance. Yes, obviously a Trump implosion at the debates is on my mind. That is a huge risk.
How much you looking to bet Draymond?
I like how you make up complete bullshit and assume that we're stupid. You have that in common with Trump.
I can't believe his big slogan tonight was "start believing in ourselves". Really? That's what we've been doing wrong this whole time? Maybe he plagiarized it from Tinkerbell.
Trump got y'all shook.
Has anyone noticed how the Congress has just given up?.
While everyone is comparing Trump to every Dictator in the last 100 years, you geniuses forget that those Dictators never had a system of checks and balances to impede their growth. At any point the Congress can wake the fuck up and actually do their fucking job. It's as if no one took a civics class so the media propaganda/ narrative is able to permeate fully into the psuedo intellectual mind.
I'm not Trump nut hugger, but why is every media outlet just sweeping Bill Clinton's rape cases under the rug, and the Clintons shady past just doesn't come up. Hey she broke the law but who fucking cares. I'm sure larry laffag is cool with almost going to jail while hillary brakes the law and no one batts an eye.
For those that are not historical NWP members, Dirty B was a fan boy of Micon and Neverwin. He was a moderator and was in a hotel room when they sprayed urine (yes piss) all over the room so a maid could clean up. Dirty B were you in that room?
He went from a total douche bag to some type of smart guy who gives opinions.
I can say fairly confidently without looking that Romney won every single county bordering Indiana last election by wide margins. Thats Children of the Corn Country. Think Ben Roethlisberger. You really can't improve upon previous results.
If Trump wins Ohio, which isn't a stretch, he wins because of older white voters in places like my county. Portman won 82 of 88 counties. He lost mine. The old unemployed angry mill worker loves trump, and it makes me uncomfortable. Local talk radio is all Trump all angry all day.
A lot depends on Kasich. Governors are way more important than Senators in terms of polling stations, etc. He certainly wants Trump to lose, but I don't know if he'll go so far as to prevent him from winning. He's a strange dude, so he's hard to read, as opposed to a Cruz who would drive blacks to the polling stations if he could to prevent a Trump victory. He bet his future on a Trump loss last night.
PA is a much harder pull for Trump than Ohio. I don't see it. This could be the first election in a long time where as goes Ohio goes the country isn't true.
The perfect storm that produces a Trump victory is mid-term laziness by Dems in Governor races in the rust belt coming back to haunt them when faced with an uninspiring candidate and the normal polling shenanigans. I struggle to see inner-city citizens waiting 8 hours in line to vote for Hillary. This is where Kasich can make or break Ohio for Trump, as he can influence that 8 hour wait down to 20 minutes if he really wants to. I'd wait the 8 hours if I had to, but it would be to vote against Trump, not because I love my candidate. I'm white though, so I'll be in and out in 5 minutes. I can go a month without seeing a Hispanic person or Asian person if I don't go to a Mexican restaurant or get takeout. Its really America 1950 demographics, and old, so it's a problem for Dems here.
Its basically 2-1 on predicit. That feels about right. Trump is a unique candidate. He could lose (insert normally red state with high Hispanic population) and win Ohio. Its really easy to see him getting close, and winning states that usually spell victory, yet not being able to quite get there. Even if the polls are off a few points, he needs them to be off by like 7 or 8% to have a true chance because he's going to lose a few % just to his horrible organization.
It's not surprising how bad your memory is, considering your crippling alcoholism. No. I was not in the famous "pissing video". It was actually my roommate and Micon at some riverboat casino. That was his senior year of college, and I had dropped out before my junior year to take a programming job. So I wasn't driving 2 hours to Kentucky on a weeknight. I also met Dustin two or three times and posted about him zero times.
I wasn't giving out opinions. I stated the fact that you're full of shit. Mike Pence is massively unpopular in Indiana. Or were you talking about just Columbus, Indiana, population 45,000?
The feeling I have heard, after $3M in negative ads in Ohio he is basically tied with Clinton. Everything is pointing to a Trump landslide. It's the same effect that Trump had going into South Carolina, BUT especially in Indiana. A month before he was 20 points behind Cruz in Indiana. He won by 20.
Good stuff:
Just STFU. Your whiney bitch mouth has been going on since 2008. We get it, you like Obama, you are *really smart* and you sniff Micon's balls. Time to shut it down. Get a new screen name or whatever. The fact you actually even took time to describe the urine event just shows what an insecure person you are.
I honestly expect a bit better from you dray. Douchebag Jr was acutally willing to give Kasich overarching presidential power to get him on the ticket. How can anyone in a good place in life actually want to see this incompotent buffoon in office. But then again, I guess his core constituency is comprised of people who can't compete in an organically globalized economy. The man has no class, sophistication, and is a failed casino operator. Just another empty suit with nothing to offer but "believe me" promises, and anyone with any perspective in life should be able to see right through it.