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Originally Posted by sonatine
Im an Occams Razor type of guy. I also think he could have gotten a lot more money had it been his singular driving intention to scam his way into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
That said Ive always maintained that Micon's actions towards Drexel had the same roots and many notables have disagreed with that, Drexel including, so its not like Im going to spend a lot of quality time on any soap boxes over it, Ive just been calling it like I see it and I feel like every time, the pieces that fall into place support my opinions to the greater extent.
Im literally overjoyed with this pic -----^.
It literally overjoys me.
a gentleman's gameQuote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/426608ab8c/bat-fight
circlin and circlin
Cliff Notes?
Jasep is on probation for what?
He stole from a charity.
He scammed money from fellow poker players, spent the money on drugs and whores he found on POF?
Now Jasep is contemplating suicide because everyone is trying to lynch him and burn him at the stake.
Dan Druff has given him his stamp of approval and cmoney a pat on the back for running a successful scam.
How soon before Jasep checks into rehab?
Jasep is a poor man's Eric Lindgren.
:cosby
LOL, I was away for 10 hours and missed 12 pages. Obviously Jasep felt the need to post once his PO's phone number was posted here. Then, all his posts are in a totally PC/not admitting anything format. For someone who didn't seem to pull punches on scammers before on these boards, he sure sounds like someone who knows he might be getting arrested soon.
LOL at the "sporadic internet". Juan must really think we are all dumb. I could give someone a cigarette on the street for a quick 30 secs to post on these forums from their phone. It's not 1995 anymore.
Walls are crumbling down.....
Remind me to never piss you off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserLol @ thinking this guy is actually going to pay anyone a dime. I guess some people still don't get it. First he says he is going to rehab, and then in the same post he says he's looking for a job. So which is it? You can't do both at the same time. He's not gonna do either. Now all of a sudden he doesn't have access to the internet? Once he saw people had his probation officer's number and this could affect his real life, he started to panic. Only now is he posting these half assed apologies. He still manages to blame his supposed addiction for the vast majority of his misdeeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by gm2022
We also get story number 3 for the 22q $
1. Met a guy and gave him a check. lol
2. Sent the check himself, and will provide a photocopy of the check. Apparently getting a copy of the cashed check from the bank isn't an option.
3. Gave it to another guy to donate for tax reasons, and he can't find one way for anyone to verify it.
Can't wait for story #4.
These are things he now says are "sincere and honest".
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Originally Posted by Muck Ficon
:lol2
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...d-off-1296659/
How long before you guys suck Mason Malmuth's cock and beg his forgiveness?
:lol2
Whoever posted this, you must realize there is a 0.0% chance it's going to stay up because of the Mason Malmuth link. It may have had a chance of surviving if it just mentioned the 6TP website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swift75 on 2+2
people who keep real live dolls as pets might also start ranking high on google, lets hope Mason doesnt get mentioned at the same time
Ok, I'm going to let you know one thing. It takes maybe 20-30 second to make a decision, and hind sight is always 20/20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Von StruckerDon't want to pour salt In. A wound.... 4bet clamed he got a pretty good live read from sep, did you ever personally meet him your self and did you get any live red flags in hind sight?Quote:
Originally Posted by pikachar
6+k I wouldent be able to sleep.
You doing ok? That's a big hit!
If I would have listened to 4bet, I wouldn't have finished my transactions. I have tons of interactions with Sep, mainly video through Skype, and a ton of calls. Looking back there were some red flags at the time it looked innocent, naive at the time.
For a 6+ k hit, dude I've lost more on houses, real estate, than this. Sleep is only affected because of 22q, not my hit.
Honestly I don't mind to be banned from 2+2, yes I went on rage tilt, for that I'm willing to take a one round penalty... It's in the poker tda rule book. In the game if life, water over the bridge.
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Originally Posted by pikacharHonestly I don't mind to be banned from 2+2, yes I went on rage tilt, for that I'm willing to take a one round penalty... It's in the poker tda rule book. In the game if life, water over the bridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Von Strucker
If I'm ever un banned I'll be pissed. He made his point, I'm staying on this side of the line I drew. Charities should be held up on a pedestal they highlight the best in all of us. Sadly it looks like a told you so or a sick brag thread on their site. I'm content with my role in this. I'll always fight for those that can not. Money is nothing, legacy is everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo Tomasihttp://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...E_OF_HONOR.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by pikachar
Me: muck what does a tuesday look like for old boy juan
Muck: cloudy with a chance of jail
bump!
I'd like to apoligize to you Brandon for my posts itt. Your post pretty much says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrexelQuote:
Originally Posted by KevinWright
I wish I could be as understanding as you Kevin. I didn't detect a single ounce of actual remorse in his statement.
That statement is a man who knew the walls were closing in around him. He was hoping he could just ignore all this and it will go away. When the name of his probation officer was mentioned with her phone number, he knew this was his only out.
Notice he mentions not to contact his friends or family about this. I assure they do not know about this.
I told many people privately that this would be the eventual outcome because you would eventually realize with a daughter, family in the area, your personal real life friends involved, that you couldn't run.
I do hope you make restitution to everyone you STOLE from, as well as the money you stole from VPR as well.
I laugh now when back in November you had the fucking audacity to chide at Mark and I on the phone blaming us that you weren't making money because of all the work you put into VPR and that WE NEEDED TO GET OFF OUR ASSES AND SELL ADS AND MAKE THE SITE MONEY. MONEY WHICH YOU CONTROLLED ALL OF FROM DAY 1
I WILL BE CONTACTING YOUR PROBATION OFFICER TOMORROW. IN REGARDS TO VPR, THE 5K BAP, AND 22Q. I WILL BE FORWARDING HER EMAILS OF YOU SCAMMING AND ALL THE OTHER PERTINENT EMAILS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT TO ME.
IF I HAVE TO DO IT ALONE I WILL PRESS TO HAVE CRIMINAL CHARGES PURSUED FOR EVERY CRIME YOU COMMITTED.
A LOT OF YOU ARE GOING TO THINK IM A DICK FOR TAKING THIS STANCE, BUT THE ABSOLUTE MOTHERFUCKING TRUTH IS YOU HAD MULTIPLE CHANCES TO COME CLEAN TO JOEU AND OTHERS THAT DIRECTLY ASKED YOU ABOUT 22Q DAYS AGO. YOU DENIED IT. MULTIPLE TIMES.
WHY? BECAUSE YOU HAD NO IDEA WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVE IT. NO IDEA WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AUDIT THE POKER ROOM. ANY ONLY AFTER YOUR PROBATION OFFICER IS REVEALED DO YOU REALIZE YOUR ONLY OUT IS TO COME ON HERE AND CLAIM ADDICTION, ETC ETC
YOU STOLE MARK AND MY TIME, OUR MONEY AND BETRAYED OUR TRUST FOR OVER 8 MONTHS.
YOU STOLE FROM A CHILDRENS CHARITY. IM SORRY WHETHER ITS CRIMINAL OR CIVIL I AM NOT LETTING THIS GO BECAUSE YOU MAKE SOME IM SORRY IM AN ADDICT I AM GETTING TREATMENT I WILL PAY EVERYONE BACK. PLEASE DONT LET MY BROTHER, MOTHER, FATHER OR PROBATION OFFICER KNOW THOUGH.
YOU ARE INSINCERE AND AFTER WASTING MY TIME FOR 8 MONTHS, STEALING FROM A CHARITY I PROMOTED AND BRAGGED ABOUT TO MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS AS ONE OF THE PROUDEST MOMENTS OF MY LIFE AND STEALING FROM THE COMMUNITY, YOUR ABOVE BULLSHIT POST MEANS NOTHING TOWARDS ME
I HOPE OTHERS FEEL THE SAME WAY. THIS IS HIS ONLY OUT. HE ONLY DID THIS BECAUSE THE WALLS WERE CLOSING AROUND HIM. IF 22Q DIDN'T COME OUT, HE WOULD BE OFF THE RADAR OR AT THE BEST TRYING TO CON 5K+ TO PAY EVERYONE THERE BAP BY THE 6TH.
IT WAS THE 22Q AND IMPENDING ONSLAUGHT OF PHONE CALL TO HIS PROBATION OFFICER THAT FORCED HIS HAND INTO MAKING THAT BULLSHIT POST.
Is it just me or is it funny as hell he says he hasnt read this thread while he responds to posts made itt?
I'd like to give my very uneducated opinion of a poker player with a gambling problem.
Poker players play poker because they feel theres an edge they have. The typical gambler that gambles on slots,blackjack, or whatever house game knows that they dont have an edge(Micon excluded) they gamble for the thrill of running like God and crushing the game. Its not even about the money so much as it is the thrill.
Poker players no matter how bad they are will never ever think their bad. They see alot of guys who play really bad so they automatically think their good. Theres nothing you can tell them to make them realize this. They have to figure it out on their own.
Heres my personal story just fuckin act like you care bitches.
I played home games and started playing online at Party poker because my boys did. I deposited like $500 crushed some satys to big tourneys. I play a 200k guaranteed with a $220 buy in with 1380 people and take 2nd. I made 30k in 8.5 hrs. I ws God I was the best in the world. It didnt even feel like real money I was playing those 1k 2 table step tourneys and just kept bubbling.
This storys to long so a long story short I sucked and no one could tell me any different. The point is Jasep sucks at poker but because in his mind he doesnt he will never be able to stop playing poker. Its like Lindgren he got treatment for the house games but hes great at poker so thats not a problem. In reality Lindgren is a typical live player that cant comprehend wont most 21 year old online players already know.
The point of this incredibly boring story is even if Jasep gets treatment he will stop playing house games but he will never stop playing poker so he will always be looking for the next scam.
I dont believe its possible for a poker player that thinks their good which is 99% of poker players to get help imo.
Completely agree with Brandon that anything he said in his first post, was completely invalidated by his second post. Only reason he made a post is because he realizes that there are going to be real life consequences that he can't escape from. Consequences will never be the same.
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Originally Posted by ShadyJ
but yeah, that was funny.
Not read anywhere near all this thread so apologies if my post is bullshit.
But this 22Q is a really small charity that hasn't had a large 4 figure single donation within the last 12 or so months?
Yet surely they must of been aware that a VERY nice donation way soon on its way? Yet when this LARGE donation doesn't arrive, nobody from this SMALL charity asks a question or two?
That just seems odd to me.
How many volunteers/staff do they have working for them? Was the treasurer not made aware that a possible $6,000 plus donation would be made soon? How much have you raised as a charity in the last 6 months?
Sorry again if my facts and points are totally off.
Dude Jasep clearly gave them the funds through an unidentified 3rd party for a tax break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
So you're saying that the charity could have stopped this scam much sooner?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
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Originally Posted by LLLSo you're saying that the charity could have stopped this scam much sooner?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
I guess that would've brought the scam to light much sooner yes. And maybe even stopped it. But would've been accidental on their part.
How did Jasep know that this SMALL charity wouldn't notice this VERY LARGE donation in quick fire time and blow his whole scam to pieces?
We sure Jasep was working alone?
For a start.
A scammer of his nature could surely string along a charity for a few months. I wouldn't start looking for a deeper conspiracy here. Let's keep eyes on the guilty party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the FraudQuote:
Originally Posted by LLL
I guess that would've brought the scam to light much sooner yes. And maybe even stopped it. But would've been accidental on their part.
How did Jasep know that this SMALL charity wouldn't notice this VERY LARGE donation in quick fire time and blow his whole scam to pieces?
We sure Jasep was working alone?
For a start.
The links from the 22q website to their past financials are all 404's. http://www.22q.org/index.php/foundat...tion/financial
I received this email word for word as I'm sure every duped investor did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
All I can say about it is that even my hotmail knew to put it in the "Junk" folder.
Jasep sent me his first post in an email, NO Hi Rollo, NO Hello Rollo or anything personal, it appears to be a form letter:Quote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
"Hello,
I am writing everyone to come clean about some of the things you have read online about me and attempt to rectify the situation."
is there some kind of scammers/ con man playbook wtf
So I guess the next step today is what news we get from Brandon or anyone else who calls Jasep probation officer?
Please keep us informed!
Desperate people do desperate things. He had all the money in his paypal, he then went to Borgota right after the podcast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
Probably just tried to run it up and got crushed and paid for life expenses etc or a combo of all.
He may have been on pins and needles waiting for questions but hit a 1 outer when he was never questioned by anyone.
I believe the largest donation this charity received over a 3 month period was the $2000 that they did receive from VPR so they probably didn't look into it.
The treasurer might have even had no idea that $6500-$6600 was raised
And I believe he was def working alone. I can state 100 % I was not working with him as I have turned over chat logs and have been talking with others for the better part of 45 days trying to piece this whole thing together and I was ripped off as well for close to 600
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Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
hope Yebsite fraud & Makar tapes/UB on the menu those 2 took a pass when the Jasep scam busted loose
I am curious as to which treatment facility he checked himself into and how the job search is going. Also his interactions with Mystery man 'C' that was suppose to get that check into 22q.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
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Originally Posted by LLLA scammer of his nature could surely string along a charity for a few months. I wouldn't start looking for a deeper conspiracy here. Let's keep eyes on the guilty party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
Ya you're probably right fella.
But they was the questions that sprung to mind after reading the 2nd half of the thread.
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Originally Posted by anonamooseso what does this response point out? what relevance does this have? the guy got 420 dollars for free out sep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
:lol2
this is exactly what i mean, you're an idiot. you're just shooting in all directions hoping to hit something.
What it shows is that Jasep lied to this guy about 10 times, then you came in to defend Jasep as a stand up guy.
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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
That was not my intention to make innocent parties like yourself feeling the need to defend themselves with my question of "was he working alone?". Apologies.
The bit were he faded the charity blowing up his spot is just something that seemed a bit off to me.
I would be curious on these things too but the only information we will get on it will be based off his word which at this point nobody will believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by DealI am curious as to which treatment facility he checked himself into and how the job search is going. Also his interactions with Mystery man 'C' that was suppose to get that check into 22q.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
The mystery man is a 100% hoax lie but even if it was somehow true then he commits another crime conspiring to help someone commit tax fraud.
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Originally Posted by manowarQuote:
Originally Posted by anonamoose
What it shows is that Jasep lied to this guy about 10 times, then you came in to defend Jasep as a stand up guy.