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Question to this sites many esteemed Trump supporters:
What are some things Trump would do in the white house that would make you say "Wow, we really fucked up".
Examples... a third world war? Increased in taxes? A domestic insurrection? Banks collapsing / dollar imploding?
Just name 3 things that would make you say "Oof, Trump really fucked us good."
Ok ok ok I get it, abstractions arent your thing.
Name 3 things that would have to improve under Trump for you to say "Wow Trump isnt an opportunistic dirtbag who accomplished what the best minds in Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the KGB couldnt; degrading the republic."
Trump failing to get a conservative Supreme Court Justice approved and we then endure 25 years of liberal agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Yes 25 years of civil rights, universal health care, and ecological responsibility would devastate us somehow I'm sure. Try harder.
Don't answer this Trump supporters. Trump said he will make America great again.....so he will. Sonatine is just trying to lure you into an intelligent debate. Ask yourself....what would Trump do? Answer the question....or point out that Sonatine is a creepy pedo.....Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Yeah I get the feeling that the only viable answer here is "Trust him, hes going to fix everything you creepy pedo".
Melania redecorates the White House and does a big reveal a la Jackie Kennedy on National TV and interrupts regular Game of Thrones programming?
Redecorate? Donald will have the White House leveled, and build some giant, gaudy skyscraper with his name on top of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
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Originally Posted by Shizzmoney
If I got in early on that, I'd sell my action at a slight discount to the current odds, and be thankful for the rube who bought it from me.
All these questions are hard because Trump doesn't give a shit about most policy. He really is the first candidate that simply doesn't care about issues.
He praised Obama in his first couple of years and was pro Hillary up until about 18 months ago. He's simply a pure charlatan. There really is no excuse to support him besides racism and stupidity.
Apprentice-type show to hire the next Secretary of State?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
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Originally Posted by Shizzmoney
great, this guy is from my district, or right next to, cant wait to troll him
This RNC is just another wasted opportunity for Trump. These people speaking are giving a million reasons why you shouldn't vote for Hillary, but not a single reason why you should vote for Trump. Undecided voters have heard all this Hillary shit before. It's just beating a dead horse. If anything, he's pushing them more in Hillary's direction. Trump is a one trick pony.
Oh yeah....and holy shit Tiffany Trump.....that speech was just cringeworthy.
LOL, 99.999% of the people would be terrified and refuse to get on stage in front of 30 Million people. She is 22 years old and she did fine. You have always been a shot taking hater. There is no doubt in my mind based on your persona here, if given the chance to be on stage in front of 30 Million people in a speech, you would have politely declined. And if pressed, you'd probably hire a lawyer and refer questions to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muck Ficon
LOL at a shot taker hater taking jabs of a 22 year old who just gave a speech in front of 30 million. You would have shit your pants on the way out and collapsed in your own shit. You would have never made it on stage and they would have put you on a golf cart and wheeled your ass out to your laptop.
OK Mr Sonatine, I'll bite. The following 3 things would greatly disappoint me:
1. No significant improvement in jobs
2. Not repealing and replacing Obamacare
3. Not building the Wall with the beautiful door in it.
I could name a few more but hedging my bet here. Carry on
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Originally Posted by IamGreek
Im quoting this for posterity because really, I dont think any of these will happen, not by miles and miles. I legit dont even think they are remotely possible unless he somehow gets control of literally every facet of legislative America.
Rush makes the case for Trump.
He also addresses the people who say he secretly wants Hillary to win for ratings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0fE_Omy-vc
A war with Russia is the last thing that Trump will pursue, he praises Putin and his campaign manager has been paid well to help pro-Russian candidate Yanukovych win a presidential election in Ukraine. And Trump's foreign policy and national security adviser has taken money from the Russian government during a visit to Russia where he helped Putin promote the state propaganda tv, RT. As a veteran I don't like hillary one bit but voting for trump and getting these kinds of deceptive assholes in positions of power is asking for a major disaster.
Reporters discussing Trump's campaign chairman Manafort ties to oligarchs. And the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Gen. Michael Flynn now acting as trump's foreign policy and national security adviser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvnIisrntK8
For almost four decades, Donald Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, has managed to juggle two different worlds: well known during US election season as a shrewd and tough political operative, he also boasts a hefty résumé as a consultant to or lobbyist for controversial foreign leaders and oligarchs with unsavory reputations.
The controversial clients Manafort has represented have paid him and his firms millions of dollars and form a who’s who of authoritarian leaders and scandal-plagued businessmen in Ukraine, Russia, the Philippines and more. On some occasions, Manafort has become involved in business deals that have sparked litigation and allegations of impropriety. In 2010, Manafort helped pro-Russian candidate Viktor Yanukovych remake his tarnished image and win a presidential election in Ukraine. The effort was arguably the high point in a decade of political and business consulting in that country involving figures such as gas tycoon Dmytro Firtash, who was separately charged in 2014 by US officials with being part of a bribery scheme in India. The US has sought to have him extradited from Austria, where he was arrested. Firtash and a billionaire Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, also worked with Manafort on separate byzantine investment deals in New York and Ukraine, respectively, that have led to lawsuits.
The financial dividends that the globetrotting 67-year-old Manafort reaped from these clients and others are palpable: he has homes in Alexandria, Virginia, Palm Beach, Florida, and the Hamptons, in New York, where his house is valued at almost $5.3m, according to property records. For good measure, Manafort has a condo in Trump Tower.
But some former US Department of State officials familiar with Manafort say his track record as an international adviser may create new headaches for a campaign that has already been criticized for its weak foreign policy credentials and for Trump’s controversial pronouncements and stances, including his warm words for Vladimir Putin, an ally of ex-Manafort client Yanukovych.
Likewise, some foreign analysts who track Ukraine and Russia voice strong concerns about Manafort’s work and question Trump’s judgment in bringing him on. “Any presidential candidate should properly vet the backgrounds of and moral decisions of the people he picks to advise him,” said Atlantic Council deputy director Alina Polyakova, adding that Manafort’s past work in Ukraine “absolutely should cast a shadow on Trump’s campaign”.
Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Donald Trump’s top foreign policy adviser, vowed Monday that the presumptive Republican nominee will “keep us safe” in a rambling speech during which he called on Hillary Clinton to drop out of the race for president and then led the crowd at the Republican National Convention in chants of “Lock her up!”
The speech by the tough-talking Flynn came during an evening that the GOP had set aside to emphasize law and order and national security issues, its traditional strong suits. And Flynn’s primetime appearance underscored his rising prominence in Donald Trump’s orbit and as a potential top national security official — such as a future director of National Intelligence — if the GOP nominee is elected.
But the speech came on a day when Flynn faced new questions about some of his more controversial views — he has expressed a willingness to resume waterboarding — as well as his relationship with a Russian TV station that serves as a propaganda arm of President Vladimir Putin’s government.
In an interview with Yahoo News earlier in the day, Flynn appeared to acknowledge for the first time that he was paid to fly to Moscow last December and speak at an event celebrating the 10th anniversary of RT, the Russian TV channel that regularly promotes the Kremlin line. Flynn, who later sat next to Putin at a dinner honoring RT, has since made occasional appearances as a commentator on the channel.
But Flynn, while attempting to outline how Trump would change foreign policy, at times seemed to ramble into side issues, such as the Obama administration’s recent directive to schools ordering them to provide transgender students with access to bathrooms that match their chosen gender identity.
Round up all socialists and extradite them to the fucking moon.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Does anyone want more Trump action? I got this off a poster on 2p2
Top Reddit comment:
"He's already advocated spreading nuclear weapons to more countries, murdering civilians and committing war crimes, punishing any woman who gets an abortion, toss out the Geneva convention and torture people, withdraw from NATO, and ban an entire religion from the country, and create a database of muslims.
He said he would deport US citizens and thinks global warming is a hoax created by the chinese, thinks the US should default on its debt, defends the interment of Japanese Americans in WW2.
He thinks Obama is a muslim and accused him of not being american and accused him of being an ISIS sympathizer, insulted war heros because they got captured, racially insulted a sitting Senator. He bragged about his dick size in a GOP debate and has suggested he might quit if he's actually elected.
He consistently thinks women are only valuable for how they look, with at least a dozen high-profile misogynistic comments.
He's called nuking the middle east a plausible option. He has a suspicious number of ties to Putin, and has a history of business deals with organized crime. He's called mexicans rapists and criminals, been successfully sued multiple times for racist rental practices, and said he wants no blacks only jews counting his money.
He semi-threatened the pope, mocked disabled people in front of a crowd of thousands, outright threatened violence towards the media and protesters, made sexual comments about his daughters MULTIPLE TIMES, praised Kim Jong Un and Putin and Saddam Hussein, praised the Tianenmen Square massacre.
He's flirted with white supremacy - retweeting them, reposting their images with anti-semitic symbols, playing coy about David Duke's endorsement. He's a verified lunatic conspiracy theorist - he thinks the Clintons murdered one of their aides, Obama is a sleeper agent and Ted Cruz's dad helped kill JFK.
He could get caught diddling kids and funding ISIS himself and his supporters would eat it up. Either way, Ladies and Gentlemen, your Republican party nominee."
simplicitus is offline
FYI, the dollar can implode at any minute. It isn't backed by gold anymore, but by promises, so in reality the dollar isn't worth anything. We're a nation of mentally ill retards who don't give a fuck about the country until it affects us. I wouldn't be surprised if Donald gets elected and the globalist let the hammers drop.
I actually voted for Obama in 2008, i was very hopeful that he was the one to change the status quo, then i realized he had a yuge mess on his hands and couldn't possibly fix everything that was wrong. But i never thought he would throw a can of gasoline into the fire. Obama has made things worse for the average citizen and better for the top banking firms in Wallstreet.
So if Donald gets elected i think you would be a retard to think he is going to fix all the nations woes. I just hope he doesn't make it worse.
It's ok. This is fine.
The person (supposedly) behind the Melania speech debacle was a 65-year-old female Democrat.
http://www.wkyc.com/news/politics/na...crat/278059400
I'm not ready to go all tinfoil hat on this. She had worked with the Trump family for decades, and was friends with them.
I think she was just lazy, and made a really boneheaded mistake.
Her excuse was weird (and bullshitty sounding):
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
My name is Meredith McIver and I’m an in-house staff writer at the Trump Organization. I am also a longtime friend and admirer of the Trump family.
In working with Melania Trump on her recent First Lady speech, we discussed many people who inspired her and messages she wanted to share with the American people. A person she has always liked is Michelle Obama. Over the phone, she read me some passages from Mrs. Obama’s speech as examples. I wrote them down and later included some of the phrasing in the draft that ultimately became the final speech. I did not check Mrs. Obama’s speeches. This was my mistake, and I feel terrible for the chaos I have caused Melania and the Trumps, as well as to Mrs. Obama. No harm was meant.
Yesterday, I offered my resignation to Mr. Trump and the Trump family, but they rejected it. Mr. Trump told me that people make innocent mistakes and that we learn and grow from these experiences.
I asked to put out this statement because I did not like seeing the way this was distracting from Mr. Trump’s historic campaign for president and Melania’s beautiful message and presentation.
I apologize for the confusion and hysteria my mistake has caused. Today, more than ever, I am honored to work for such a great family. I personally admire the way Mr. Trump has handled this situation and I am grateful for his understanding.
Sincerely,
Meredith McIver
Meredith McIver is saying that Melania read her some passages from Michelle Obama's speeches that she admired, she wrote them down, and didn't realize she was copying it all from the same speech, but was rather using those passages as inspiration.
The passages were FAR too similar to have simply been cobbled together like that after scribbling them down on a piece of paper. And besides, even if that were true, why was this okay? She's basically admitting that she copied Michelle Obama's speech, but thought she was cobbling together passages from different speeches. Why would that have been any better?
I also doubt that Melania was googling Michelle Obama's speeches and reading them to her speechwriter.
Since they are not firing Meredith, I think it's possible that the error was someone else's, but she (as a family friend) agreed to fall on the sword, so as to not make the more prominent campaign managers look bad.
Whatever the case, this was a pretty ridiculous blunder.
Why in the fuck does a 65 year old democrat have ANYTHING to do with the Trump campaign or her speech??Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
Because they used someone from Trump's business, not the campaign, in violation of election laws. Probably another dumb mistake, but another bonehead move by a bunch of idiotic amateurs.
Nobody thinks Trump is going to hire the "best people" anymore, do they?
When Trump met with Paul Ryan and other gop memebers about a month ago Trump told them to "just act like the gop is unified" he advocated they pretty much just outright lie to the American people and pretend they are unified just so they can get more votes.
I used to like this guy but im actually starting to hate his lying ass.
in his defense, that's basically just politics 101.
tine is literally at the age where if he puts on a suit he basically feels entitled to a complimentary wheel chair while boarding any sort of public transit
It's still pathetic
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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerWhy in the fuck does a 65 year old democrat have ANYTHING to do with the Trump campaign or her speech??Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Because Trump has largely associated with Democrats his entire life?
There's two Manhattan society people running against each other for President. They socialized together up until the election started. Their kids are the closests of friends. All the real old money high society New Yorkers found them both basically new money white trash.
We're playing for Supreme Court seats here, nothing else.
You know how you or I scream at the television during a football game only to feel idiotic when the guys start hugging :10 after the whistle and make dinner plans. That's all you're watching. The only thing that doesn't make it a pre-season game is the SC seats.
Look at that crowd. You think Donald Trump would spend a minute with any of those fat rubes? You think Hillary is reading old Marcus Garvey papers on Pan-African colonialism ? It's just two people playing a role for the right to work for Wall Street. I'm still not ruling out Trump not being in on the joke after the speech/rick roll the other night.
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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
Because Trump has largely associated with Democrats his entire life?
There's two Manhattan society people running against each other for President. They socialized together up until the election started. Their kids are the closests of friends. All the real old money high society New Yorkers found them both basically new money white trash.
We're playing for Supreme Court seats here, nothing else.
You know how you or I scream at the television during a football game only to feel idiotic when the guys start hugging :10 after the whistle and make dinner plans. That's all you're watching. The only thing that doesn't make it a pre-season game is the SC seats.
Look at that crowd. You think Donald Trump would spend a minute with any of those fat rubes? You think Hillary is reading old Marcus Garvey papers on Pan-African colonialism ? It's just two people playing a role for the right to work for Wall Street. I'm still not ruling out Trump not being in on the joke after the speech/rick roll the other night.
#StayWoke as the activists say.Quote:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 10h10 hours ago
Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!
You're a bright guy, you cannot believe this is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
Cruz is a masochist
More campaign incompetence. Somehow they allowed a rival a primetime slot without getting an endorsement, and Cruz used the spot to fuck him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
Cruz def thug lifed that shit
Security had to lead his wife out. Dayum. Probably should have left her at home, bro.