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Originally Posted by cmoney

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Originally Posted by sonatine

That article is basically clickbait imo. He's absurdly talented and brutally cleared out a division (while ducking Edgar, admittedly). But his weight advantage was a big part of that and now that the IV ban is shutting down that element of his game, I think its a great time to bet against him. But gauging his legacy by a performance he put on with like 30+ pounds of meat on his fight frame is just thirsty.

That said, personally do not believe he will ever fight comfortably at 145 again, and he's in real trouble at 155. Between the power, speed, and aggression of RDA and the ground game on Barboza, Cerrone, Pettis etc, there arent a lot of exploitable fights for him to move into.

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He hits hard. Once he is on his back he is fucked. Aldo never got the chance and Mendes, who had basically no camp, had his way with him on the ground. Only took Diaz a few seconds. Max Holloway is vastly improved since 2013.

He is ridiculously over hyped for his talent level.

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Respectfully, what Diaz did to him on the ground while he was barely alive is not statistically relevant, despite the fact that we all know he has a shitty ground game and if Diaz simply pulled guard on a fresh Conor, he would have subbed him trivially.

What Im saying...: you have to frame his accomplishments in relation to what he was able to accomplish against his peers. Assessing his strength based on ephemerals might feel great but I dont think it promotes any sort of clinical analysis.

He ran a division and hadnt lost a fight since 2011.

Fighters who are not great do not do that. That's the opposite of not great.

Ronda Rousey, another walking talking piece of human garbage, is (was?) a great fighter and ran a division but got the gas face when she tried to hang with a real striker. Does not make her an un-great fighter, just a fighter with shitty standup and awful, awful coaches.

I sincerely hope Conor McGregor kills himself but I'm not going to let that stop me from saying the man was a world destroyer at 145, nor will I shy from stacking up on Edgar (if that actually happens) once the drunk mick cunts send their paychecks to slaughter at their local books.

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But Nate will tell you now that it wasn’t until high school that he really learned to fight. Even then it was more Nick’s doing than his. Nick was the motivated one, the focused one. Nate was just the kid who wanted to tag along with his big brother. At first, Nate admitted, he wasn’t terribly interested in jiu-jitsu. He also wasn’t very good. What kept him coming back was that, after practice, the older guys in the class would usually buy him and his brother a burrito from the food truck that pulled up near the gym each night.

"That was actually the main reason I wanted to go train," he said. "I didn’t have any money. At home we didn’t have s--t. I was starving all day. So if I went to train I’d get something to eat. Sometimes I’d be sitting at home and it was like, well, if I go train with Nick I’ll get something to eat afterwards. If I don’t I’ll just sit here and be hungry. ...I was going for burritos and dinner, and hey, I wanted dinner every day. Before I knew it I was a blue belt."

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Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

lets simmer it down fat guy who enjoys fishing

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

I have it on extremely good authority that FPS_Russia and DJ Craps are on steroids, this is breaking and definitely trending all over chat right now.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

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Agree with all except last point. Joanna been great at 115.

Also hate to sound sexiest but it's a crime for meisha tobe wearing that shitty white reebok outfit compared to her old ones...

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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

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What is this overwhelming evidence? The dude didn't win with his muscles. Conor gassed out and Nate bitch slapped him. Then, Conor shot on him, Lolz.

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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

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Agree with all except last point. Joanna been great at 115.

Also hate to sound sexiest but it's a crime for meisha tobe wearing that shitty white reebok outfit compared to her old ones...

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You know what, point taken, but she also doesnt fight often and her competition has been women who lost on TUF (and not even in the finals) for the most part. Her weight class isnt really popping off, is my point. And also, her next fight is on an Ultimate Fighter Finale, which kinda ties into what Im saying.

Class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muKzktfPwZ8
Yea I'm sick of those Brazilians too.

Where's a safe place for a UFC fighter to juice without having to worry about USADA and having access to juice?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dB5rYQ_HnE
This is just a tiny nugget.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

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All depends on if Women's MMA grows or not since it's still in it's infancy. Dana White looks at it a lot differently then he once did (all thanks to Ronda) but he's also a businessman who won't be putting these fights in the co-main event or main if they aren't worthy of it.

Even if females can't get too far up on the PPV card anymore as long as UFC keeps drawing people into an arena for shit fight pass cards their will always be a place for amateur hour.

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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia

Where's a safe place for a UFC fighter to juice without having to worry about USADA and having access to juice?

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How is mexico a safe place when they test people around the world? So they can hit up crocop in Croatia, but they can't get Nate in Mexico?

Just because they are named USADA doesn't mean they are bound by US borders, because they ain't.

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Originally Posted by nightmarefish

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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

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What is this overwhelming evidence? The dude didn't win with his muscles. Conor gassed out and Nate bitch slapped him. Then, Conor shot on him, Lolz.

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theres no evidence, "steroids" is just some weird troll meme with him.

Just looking at his body, Diaz is the LAST person I would suspect of Juicing.







Vaping, maybe...

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

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All they need to do is cover the floor in pillows, and make them fight naked......Problem solved

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Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly

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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia

Where's a safe place for a UFC fighter to juice without having to worry about USADA and having access to juice?

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How is mexico a safe place when they test people around the world? So they can hit up crocop in Croatia, but they can't get Nate in Mexico?

Just because they are named USADA doesn't mean they are bound by US borders, because they ain't.

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If i had a pic of Nate with a syringe in his ass you'd dismiss it as tetanus. Save it.

local degen went to this fight and did a two teamer for both underdogs. Paid 20-1. Poker games will be good again for a week or so.

Nate Diaz is medically suspended until 4/20.

Irony, take a bow

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Originally Posted by nightmarefish

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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

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What is this overwhelming evidence? The dude didn't win with his muscles. Conor gassed out and Nate bitch slapped him. Then, Conor shot on him, Lolz.

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It'd be a really long post. I'd have to make it a thread with the hope that Nate or Nick would hear about it. The only way i'd go through all the trouble is if the Diaz bros or any of their fan boys piss me off bad enough. Only then would I throw down the gauntlet on their ass. I can't believe how many people are skeptical of my claims. They're into triathlons, endurance bike racing etc. helllo
Is there any sport in the world that has as much doping as cycling, triathlons, and all the other endurance type sports? That's where you'll find the experts at beating USADA type drug testing.

Edit: Any of you homos that don't like my posts use the ignore feature. Last I checked this is the "flying Stupidity" section of the forum.

Looks like I may finally decide to attend a live ufc event. Rory vs Wonderboy coming here.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Has anyone else noticed that womens MMA is a farce?

- The closest thing it had to a star was Rousey, and at her last presser, her PR team explicitly forbade the press from asking questions about fighting.

- Holm's multi million dollar 5th round fuckup just cratered her star potential.

- Tate is ugly, awful, and has been dominated so thoroughly by Ronda in the past that her belt is smaller than the asterisk next to it.

- No one in a single womens division seems to be putting on dominating or even exciting performances consistently. Every time we think there's a standout prospect, they fuck up and go down in flames.


Real talk, does anyone really think that there will even be womens MMA fights on PPV main cards in a year or two?

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Ahem. This is like a female Nate Diaz right here. Sick boxing ability.

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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia

There's overwhelming circumstantial evidence that Nate Diaz was juiced, overwhelming! I'm just to lazy to piece together the puzzle in a post or maybe even a thread. It's just to much. Maybe later idk

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No there isn't, you fucking mong. Go find another sport to troll. How anyone with double digit or greater brain cells can look at Nate and think "roids", is really astounding.

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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia

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Originally Posted by nightmarefish

What is this overwhelming evidence? The dude didn't win with his muscles. Conor gassed out and Nate bitch slapped him. Then, Conor shot on him, Lolz.

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It'd be a really long post. I'd have to make it a thread with the hope that Nate or Nick would hear about it. The only way i'd go through all the trouble is if the Diaz bros or any of their fan boys piss me off bad enough. Only then would I throw down the gauntlet on their ass. I can't believe how many people are skeptical of my claims. They're into triathlons, endurance bike racing etc. helllo
Is there any sport in the world that has as much doping as cycling, triathlons, and all the other endurance type sports? That's where you'll find the experts at beating USADA type drug testing.

Edit: Any of you homos that don't like my posts use the ignore feature. Last I checked this is the "flying Stupidity" section of the forum.

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Doesn't mean you have to take your stupidity and launch your dumb ass into orbit with every post. I'll repeat myself, go find another sport to troll.

Rousey v Tate line up; Ronda at -450. round props might be profitable, or at least entertaining.

Mickey Gall is -360 vs CM Punk (+270)....it will never happen but I almost want to fire on that just in case

Can anyone explain to me why people are stacking Frank Mir against Hunt?

This seems like it should be the easiest fight in Hunt's life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWMRgvmExjw
So far this seems like some interesting Conspiraporn, he's making waves at sherdog. He's claiming to have made some remarkable predictions etc i haven't verified em yet. He's got some interesting links in the description. Most of these guys don't show their face for obvious reasons, so he probably believes.
For entertainment only.

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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWMRgvmExjw
So far this seems like some interesting Conspiraporn, he's making waves at sherdog. He's claiming to have made some remarkable predictions etc i haven't verified em yet. He's got some interesting links in the description. Most of these guys don't show their face for obvious reasons, so he probably believes.
For entertainment only.

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AHHHH SHITDOG. FOX NOOBS AND TARDS. THANKS FOR THE REMINDER TO KEEP AVOIDING IT.

GSP asking for Nate.

Ufc turning into Wwe. All the stars want the big paydays so they come out of the woodwork for UFC 200 (aka Wrestlemania).

Less care about the belts and more about the bigger $ matchups.

http://entimports.com/2016/03/anik-a...t-nate-reacts/

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Can anyone explain to me why people are stacking Frank Mir against Hunt?

This seems like it should be the easiest fight in Hunt's life.

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I wish I could know what shape both fighters are in. Hunt was in great shape for his last fight and won, Mir looked like he ate calzones everyday for his last fight.

But both have had histories of being unkept for camps.

I do agree with you on Hunt because with him, it generally doesn't matter what shape he is in (except against elite fighters) b/c it's all equalized with his punching power. It's also a "home game" for Hunt. Hunt at -175 is not a bad play, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Shizzmoney

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Can anyone explain to me why people are stacking Frank Mir against Hunt?

This seems like it should be the easiest fight in Hunt's life.

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I wish I could know what shape both fighters are in. Hunt was in great shape for his last fight and won, Mir looked like he ate calzones everyday for his last fight.

But both have had histories of being unkept for camps.

I do agree with you on Hunt because with him, it generally doesn't matter what shape he is in (except against elite fighters) b/c it's all equalized with his punching power. It's also a "home game" for Hunt. Hunt at -175 is not a bad play, IMO.

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I think a lot of people are expecting Hunt to get KO'd because he's suddenly looking vulnerable on that front on paper. His last 3 losses all came from KO's after all. But the people delivering them; roided up JDS, Werdum, then Stipe in the 5th of a hard fought bout... I dont see any Vend overlap with Mir's skillsets lending themselves to a similar result.

I do, however, recognize Mir as a punch drunk slob with zero head movement who'se also a slow starter that ends up with his back against the fence in most of his striking bouts. So yeah, maybe Hunt finally had his ticket punched and his chin is just _gone_ and somehow Mir will find it but it would be so insanely out of character for Mir to accomplish that before he gasses in minute number 4.

Stacking like a fucker of mothers on Hunt by TKO and hoping I'm right about Hunt's chin.

If Hunt loses this fight, it's by submission most likely. But the last time Mir submitted anybody was in 2011.

Also on the real whoever booked this as a 5 round main event needs to be executed in public.

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Originally Posted by Shizzmoney

If Hunt loses this fight, it's by submission most likely. But the last time Mir submitted anybody was in 2011.

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Yeah I think Mir by keylock in the 3rd makes a lot of sense but if Hunt cant find Mir's glass jaw before then, I give the fuck up on everything.

Additionally Id like to know why Glover v Rashad isnt on any books yet.

this made me laugh. https://streamable.com/6s4m

Timely



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA4Scnc--L4

I'm going to let you guys in on a lil secret. Conor pretty much kicked Nate's ass, minus the last 30 seconds or so. You guys are on your knees lathering Nate's balls with suds and tbh it's embarrassing, stop it please.