Beautiful woman but I think she has only one fan on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
Now Tulsi fans are quoting Steve ScaliseQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
not republican though
wait is nightmarefish not a Tulsi fan? I can't tell the difference anymore.
You don’t know I’m a Republican by now? How are you so confused?
she really is a dumb bitch. and tine is most likely right, she's setting up a fox news gig
breaking news: diggy is also pro jasep
Diggy quiet AF
yeah trump's definitely not concerned with his perm record. diggy with those white hot takes yall.
And the censure:
And for you all saying this is cowardly, big LOL. Tulsi is catching huge shit for doing what she thinks is right. Keep on obsessing over her while simultaneously claiming nobody cares about her.
she refused to vote on impeachment. it’s the definition of cowardice and you know this.
what will your reaction be when she goes straight to fox news? obv she is now dead to democrats. after months of volunteering for her, is this a cognitive dissonance thing, where you can’t admit what you see happening?
letting a criminal retain the highest authority in the land without enforcing constitutional checks against his abuse is 'right' to tulsi gabbard.
marinate in that.
99% of Democrats vote for something stupid that is guaranteed to backfire and get Trump re-electedQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
Tulsi goes against her entire party and doesn’t vote for it and gets nothing but shit thrown at her for it
= "she’s a coward"
So funny that so much Tulsi criticism is based on pure, baseless speculation, e.g., "She'll go be on Fox News," "She'll run third party and be like Jill Stein," "She'll become a Republican."
Basically you all imagine scenarios and become angry about them, while ignoring the actual actions and policies of Tulsi, since most are, if you'll excuse the term, unimpeachable.
Tulsi refusing to pick a side is the worst thing she could have done. She’s an elected official and it’s her responsibility to make tough decisions for the people she represents.Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
And the censure:
And for you all saying this is cowardly, big LOL. Tulsi is catching huge shit for doing what she thinks is right. Keep on obsessing over her while simultaneously claiming nobody cares about her.
Based on the consequences, how can you not understand that voting "Present" (abstaining) is THE "tough decision" to make?
fucking over her constituents took a lot of balls, in that regard it was a very tough thing to do i suppose.
amoral, disturbing, irresponsible also play.
No real consequences, she’s not running again is she?Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
It has nothing to do with her constituents, wine aunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Continue your brazen misrepresentation of the entire situation + Tulsi's position, and continue ignoring her press release, in which she clearly explains her vote.
it’s gotta piss you off that you wasted months of your life volunteering for tulsi only to have her throw away her entire political career in spectacular fashion like she did last nightQuote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
I'm organizing volunteers to go from NYC -> NH this weekend, and we don't see it as a waste of time at all.
I'm sure you can understand why this vote was courageous and embodies her leadership, no?
She's literally become a republican talking point as proof that impeachment was a big hoax.Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
So why didn't she vote against it if it's so bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydow99% of Democrats vote for something stupid that is guaranteed to backfire and get Trump re-electedQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
Tulsi goes against her entire party and doesn’t vote for it and gets nothing but shit thrown at her for it
= "she’s a coward"
Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydowIt has nothing to do with her constituents, wine aunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Continue your brazen misrepresentation of the entire situation + Tulsi's position, and continue ignoring her press release, in which she clearly explains her vote.
ohhhh sorry, i just kinda assumed that doing her job had everything to do with representing the people who elected her. but i guess her job is whatever fox news says it is, sooOOOoooOooooo
It turned into completely unfocused partisan bullshit, yes.
if she didn't think impeachment was a good idea, wouldn't it have been more courageous to vote "no"?Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
do you ever disagree with her or nah?
Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeif she didn't think impeachment was a good idea, wouldn't it have been more courageous to vote "no"?Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
do you ever disagree with her or nah?
in before cultspeak
these words are gibberish. by this standard, since everything in 2019 is partisan, tulsi wouldn't vote for impeachment regardless of what trump has done.Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
trump was literally caught extorting the ukraine into digging up dirt on his political rival and the GOP backed him up 100%
She explained already in what I already posted, and you're acting like you're still confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeif she didn't think impeachment was a good idea, wouldn't it have been more courageous to vote "no"?Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
do you ever disagree with her or nah?
I actually don't have a strong view on this impeachment thing, but have seen such bad-faith takes on Tulsi's motives that I felt compelled to speak out.
I do disagree w/ Tulsi on many things, like: internet gambling (she even answered my Q about it, and I didn't like the answer at all), not being even more strict on guns, and tilting easily when you mention her religion.
"Everything not in line with the military industrial complex and MSM status quo is evil and cultish."Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
in before cultspeak
Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydowhttps://krishna.org/wp-content/uploa...an_beach_s.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
dont trip over your tulsi(tm) robe.
her explanation was bad though, diggy. it was really, really bad. she said i don't think we should impeach him, so i'll vote present instead of no. #VotePresentLikeTulsiQuote:
Originally Posted by diggydowShe explained already in what I already posted, and you're acting like you're still confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
I actually don't have a strong view on this impeachment thing, but have seen such bad-faith takes on Tulsi's motives that I felt compelled to speak out.
I do disagree w/ Tulsi on many things, like: internet gambling (she even answered my Q about it, and I didn't like the answer at all), not being even more strict on guns, and tilting easily when you mention her religion.
also blake please stop acting confused and blindly accept some shit she said.
Do you understand that her vote was a gift to Republicans and Putin and a dagger to Democrats?Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydowShe explained already in what I already posted, and you're acting like you're still confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
I actually don't have a strong view on this impeachment thing, but have seen such bad-faith takes on Tulsi's motives that I felt compelled to speak out.
I do disagree w/ Tulsi on many things, like: internet gambling (she even answered my Q about it, and I didn't like the answer at all), not being even more strict on guns, and tilting easily when you mention her religion.
Not very Aloha imo.
guys please diggy is super busy organizing her political future or something and he needs his hands free to carry all the white grease paint and red wigs.
You conduct yourself like a high school mean girl w/out any real interest in getting to the truth, whereas Blake makes good-faith attempts to understand the truth + what others are actually thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
You strawman everyone who disagrees w/ you and refuse to acknowledge rebuttals, instead painting those in disagreement as Russian spies, or cult members, or crazy people.
You conduct yourself without honor, and reveal your true self in your anonymity.
I think she meant that his actions were impeachable but then the investigation became an unfocused, wide-ranging, partisan circus, so she wouldn't vote for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeher explanation was bad though, diggy. it was really, really bad. she said i don't think we should impeach him, so i'll vote present instead of no. #VotePresentLikeTulsiQuote:
Originally Posted by diggydow
Why do you think she voted Present?
i definitely dont comport myself with the type of honor that green lights a psychopathic dictator's reign by refusing to hold him accountable, thats correct.
Just spit balling here but I wonder what would happen if the house held on to the impeachment docs until after the 2020 election. Is it possible that they take over the Senate and then send the articles to the Senate. Also, if they wait that long and Trump gets re-elected would they then still be able to try and remove him even though he would be working under a new term?
Maybe? Chances of Trump winning + Dem taking the Senate in 2020 seems very unlikely. From what I've read, 2022 mid terms is a lot more favorable for Dem Senate majority. Interesting scenario though.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
Also Pelosi kind of walked back the whole 'we're holding these till we get something we consider fair' this morning. It's now 'we just want to know the plan so we know who to choose to represent the house. The big question is whether or not to pick Justin Amash as part of the 'prosecution'. I bet Amash and Pelosi wish he didn't switch from 'R' to 'I' so they could claim bipartisan support.
let's look at her explanation for not voting in favor of impeachment:Quote:
Originally Posted by diggydowI think she meant that his actions were impeachable but then the investigation became an unfocused, wide-ranging, partisan circus, so she wouldn't vote for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
Why do you think she voted Present?
"I also could not in good conscience vote for impeachment because removal of a sitting President must not be the culmination of a partisan process"
i was a fan of hers. she's not an idiot. she knows that any impeachment of donald trump is going to be partisan, regardless of what he's been accused of. does she really mean that she would never vote for impeachment under any circumstances?
she's also using false equivalence to compare the democrats with the republicans. republicans will not even address the substance of what trump's been accused of. meanwhile trump's conduct is undisputed.
assuming that tulsi knows these things, which she does, the possible reasons for her actions become more troubling.
at best, she pulled the present vote out because it gives her wiggle room to keep her future career options open.
at worst, she already has a deal with fox or is planning a 3rd party run. her announcement that she's not seeking reelection to the house even though she has zero chance of getting the dem nomination certainly raises some questions, no?
Pelosi waiting for the hard R tape to drop.
Gonna be a chart topper, imo.