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Everyone knows I rep Diaz but Holy Shit did Conor cock smacked him hard there. Lol @ mocking him teaching jitz to little kids on Saturday and calling out his boys Melendez and Shields.
Its sad but I totally agree with his assessment of how this fight is gonna go. I do see Diaz doing something dirty during/after this fight too.
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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
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Originally Posted by cmoney
Diaz at +300 right now. I put down a small wager, and we will see where this thing goes.
Good job u only put a small wager on it.
McGregor and Holm both locks to win by KO/TKO.
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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
Good job u only put a small wager on it.
McGregor and Holm both locks to win by KO/TKO.
Neither of these are forgone conclusions, although they both represent likely outcomes.
Tate in particular is hard to ignore here; can she do better than Ronda operating at 20% after getting pretty much KO'd standing by the first flush shot? I think she can. Shes certainly more well rounded than Holm.
I'm not putting money on her because I think Holm is smart enough to pick her apart from the outside but dont judge Holm's performance against Ronda without considering how fucked... UP Ronda was after that first punch.
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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
Good job u only put a small wager on it.
McGregor and Holm both locks to win by KO/TKO.
Yeah lock city.
Nate up to +325.
At +350 I start putting light gamble action on him and at +425 I consider him a mathematically sound investment.
Nate wins this fight from top position or bottom position. The only place he has problems is standing.
He was at +340 late last night and just checked at +345 now at betonline.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
What is the pull back number?
+360. It may even get to +375 at some books IMO depending on the volume of Conor action.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerHe was at +340 late last night and just checked at +345 now at betonline.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
What is the pull back number?
The euro/pro Conor money usually comes in first....and then late action on the dog.
This might be the nastiest thing I've seen in a while but OSA will probably like this so be warned:
No doubt his jaw can take more hits than Aldo, but should still get KO'd fairly quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
I watched that press conference and it was painfully obvious that Diaz only took the fight for the money. McGregor gets asked how he thinks the fight will go down and responds saying first round KO, Diaz gets asked the same question and doesn't say anything - just sits there with nothing to say cos he knows full well he's gonna get beaten up badly and that this is probably his retirement pay cheque.
After watching some of Holm's other fights I'm convinced she's a machine and will murder any of these women. Her boxing and leg kicks are too much for the likes of Tate who's only chance is to takedown and submit her.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Trust me, betting both of these on the double is like buying money.
Unless your plan is to lay him off at a later point and shave a profit then it really isn't a sound investment because it's not going to be a close fight. Maybe if he had a full training camp then your assessment would be valid, but as it is he's got no chance.Quote:
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Originally Posted by RegGaymerAfter watching some of Holm's other fights I'm convinced she's a machine and will murder any of these women. Her boxing and leg kicks are too much for the likes of Tate who's only chance is to takedown and submit her.
Trust me, betting both of these on the double is like buying money.
Unless your plan is to lay him off at a later point and shave a profit then it really isn't a sound investment because it's not going to be a close fight. Maybe if he had a full training camp then your assessment would be valid, but as it is he's got no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
So you dont think adding 40 pounds to his frame isnt going to impact Conor's timing and cardio? Ok, thats super interesting.
Check his twitter, he recently posted a short video punching the bag and looked fast as ever.
Someone mentioned earlier bout Khabib, he's the fighter most likely to beat McGregor
He did say something. "Kill or be killed". Pay attention next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymerNo doubt his jaw can take more hits than Aldo, but should still get KO'd fairly quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
I watched that press conference and it was painfully obvious that Diaz only took the fight for the money. McGregor gets asked how he thinks the fight will go down and responds saying first round KO, Diaz gets asked the same question and doesn't say anything - just sits there with nothing to say cos he knows full well he's gonna get beaten up badly and that this is probably his retirement pay cheque.
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So you dont think adding 40 pounds to his frame isnt going to impact Conor's timing and cardio? Ok, thats super interesting.
Adding 40 pounds? Do you really need to bend the truth when debating Reg?
The thing is that you payed attention to what Reg Gaymer said. That's the travesty here.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ_ChapsHe did say something. "Kill or be killed". Pay attention next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
If some of the big bettors on here payed attention to what I said before the last fight then they might have saved themselves a house or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Yeah he said that at some point later, but it's an act and he doesn't believe that shit anyway. The guy was getting owned all the way thru that press conference which is no surprise as he looks like a complete air-head whereas McGregor otoh is very astute.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ_ChapsHe did say something. "Kill or be killed". Pay attention next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
Greg, Id prefer if you just stuck to threads about things you understood. Chem-trails, flat earth, so on. Those are your sweet spot. This, not so much. And I get that Conor will probably flash KO Diaz and youre going to be like OMG I TOTALLY CALLED IT but I think if you just took that to Sherdog, you would find an incredibly supportive community willing to sports-bar-bro-hug you and never question your narrow field of vision.
Sonatine, with all due respect, you are a dino lover so I can't take you seriously on most matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
It's cool that you look at the numbers and think probability wise Diaz will win 1 in 5 times, but the reality is that it simply isn't the case because he's going into this fight a certified loser with the mentality of someone who is happy to get beaten because the fat pay day will change his life.
Of course, I expect these subtle observations to fly right over your head.
In fairness I do love dinosaurs.
if you think nate's going into this fight knowing he is already beaten, you are crazy. Nate doesn't even believe he is beaten after he is actually beaten, nevermind before.
I am in awe of Conor McGregor. He is the best 145 and probably 155 that ever lived, and lb4lb greatest striker. Nobody else on Earth combines the feet of a bantam, wingspan of a welter and knockout rate of a heavy.
This fight brings several serious challenges.
There is a reason that fighters are separated by weight---and it isn't to protect the bigger guy. This fight is 25 pounds, two entire weight classes, above the heaviest Conor has fought in the UFC. Nate stands 4" taller on a similar frame and is just simply the larger man. Which leads to...
Conor dominates at his weight class with a genetically freakish reach advantage, allowing him to control distance and inflict damage with an unpredictable mix of strikes while keeping himself beyond danger. Diaz is the first man against whom Conor does not have this luxury. Conor may effectively compensate with vastly superior movement but Diaz is a supremely talented MMA boxer who knows every angle. Which leads to...
Nobody gameplans and executes better than the Diaz boys. They may not always win but they consistently put themselves in the best spot to do so, often despite huge mismatches in raw talent. Nate should have a considerable edge in the clinch or grappling. Conor is so elusive it won't be easy for Nate to get his hands on him, but remember the Irishman is the one who needs to close distance. Nate can exploit this with some well-timed takedowns, something which Conor has never shown great skill at defending. If you're not punching the other man in the face, takedowns and top control are the most effective means of telling the three ringside retards that you're winning. And finally...
Both men have shown elite chin and heart so a grueling battle to decision seems likely. Until proven otherwise, it's always a question mark whether a man has 25 minutes of cardio in him. It certainly seems like Conor McGregor has the lungs, but it's absolutely certain that competitive triathlete Nate Diaz does. If this were UFC 3 he'd probably go 125 minutes and still be peppering that mouthy cunt with jabs.
Just spitballing here. Criticism welcome.
Prime Silva was a better striker, so forget p4p.
The FW weightclass is shallow. Sorry but honestly. Mendes fucking styled on Conor for a round and Mendes had been wolfing burgers and watching cable tv semi competitively 2 weeks before he got in the ring.
Im glad Conor inspires you. He's a good fighter. Certainly ahead of the curve at FW. But the problem with your chart is that it takes mean averages, so people like Aldo, you end up taking into consideration the yawnpocolypses that were his fights leading up to Conor harvesting his soul.
Conor vs Edgar, thats an acid test.
Conor vs RDA would have been an acid test.
Conor vs Nate? I mean... it is interesting because a 145 lb body gets carried on the frame differently than a 175 lb body. How well is his kinesiology going to scale? Also we get to find out if Conor's going to be able to deal with a 175lb man. Can he trip a 175lb man? Can he hip escape? Can he maintain an active top guard without getting caught? None of these are forgone conclusions. But an acid test it is not; unless he puts in a poor showing of course.
Lastly, the reason so few fighters change weight classes is; its destructive. Like, really destructive. Once you move up, you basically start to lose your twitch time. There was a spirited convo about it when Silva fought at 205; its a one way ticket, generally. Is Conor somehow magically immune to that? If he is, perhaps he is as good as your faith implies.
But I think he's biting off a lot more than he can chew.
That's an argumentative tone but you're mostly agreeing with my points.
NO IM NOT.
I would be so giddy if Diaz wins but its most likely KO in late 2nd early 3rd by Conor.
Considering that many people say Conor walks around at like 170-175 even during camp, prior to cutting, I dont see how anyone thinks this is a problem at all? I mean essentially Conor can get to whatever weight he feels is ideal, without maxing himself out at all. Diaz is still cutting and pushing himself so he would in theory be more drained that Conor.
McGregor anywhere around -300 would be grand fucking theft
YOU SCUMS WATCHING?
Does UFC have a "grand" package where you get the fight pass and all the PPV events?
This fucking ref is a clown.
Fingers in the glove? Huge deal. Illegal upkick to the face? Shrug.
Rivera -150 2 units
I'd love to see Vera fight that POS ref.
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Id be legit curious what this would sell for but I feel like they would never discount the PPVs, so it could easily be like 1000+ a year. And given how shite most PPVs are, I mean...
I'd rather pay $500 with the PPV than $100 for the regular fight pass...... I'm sure I'm not the only one is why I ask.
I shipped them the $9.99 so I can watch this.
I got mr Finland here
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loldecisions
Shout out to the UKIP skins they manage to find in the audience after Pickett's win.
I feel like I havent seen a Japanese fighter win since Pride.