Blatant Gambling Scammer Christopher Mitchell (YouTube/Baccarat/Roulette/Sportsbetting)

This Trey character seems to be as much a fraud as Chrissy. Not a blatant liar and scammer like Chrissy, but just uses buzz words and internet stats to try and give himself credibility.

And I’m not sure what’s going on with his hair! He’s either got some decent hair plugs or is in the early stages of a Trump-like comb over!



His TV appearances also show how little he knows about financial advising and he just regurgitates things he heard or read on the web. For instance he’s asked what the odds are of winning the lottery powerball type drawing and he says 1 out of 292,000,000. Which is about right , but the female “host” asks like he’s the only person on earth who could’ve known that because of his “expertise”! When a quick google search will give you the answer!!

https://youtu.be/CpVaHnERVG0


And then there’s this gem, lol! Yes Mr. Financial Guru, tell us how much we should tip ubers and other service workers ,whilst we pay you a nominal fee, because apparently nobody can figure these things out themselves!?! He lets slip that his wife is a hairstylist and that’s probably what his opinion is based off.

https://youtu.be/-clCsagX_sE

As much as I enjoy Druff’s opinions on tipping, I can’t even believe this guy is going on TV to spew this nonsense! Trey’s genius theory, tip the minimum expected amount(15%) for any service and then an extra 5% if it was good service! Or his brilliant idea of “don’t tip cable repair guys with money, but instead offer them a glass of water or lemonade!”

Bahahahahahahahahahahaha, yea great logic there Trey! Got any more nuggets for us? How about go to a restaurant and eat the food, if it’s good, go back again & eat more food!!!

Hahaha, this guy is just comedy gold and perhaps Druff may want to do a segment on the tipping video he made with those world changing ideas he has!?!

It’s my guess that Trey knows by now something is not right with Chrissy and his story. I think Chrissy is the one asking Trey to dinner, not Trey asking Chrissy. I think Trey goes along with it for a couple reasons. Primary I think it’s because they are both in Crafts group and if he turns Chrissy down, it will be awkward going forward. As far as Trey’s ethics, at this point it’s really hard to say. He could be a great guy or a complete piece of Shit, I personally would need to see more from him to decide. Time will tell.

It’s obvious Trey is a “Numbers Guy”. It’s possible that Trey hasn’t “pressed” Chrissy on these “strategies” he has, since he knows they are likely bullshit. He likely doesn’t want to cause tension, since much of Crafts group is about “Doing life with others”.

I think this gives us our answer:
Trey is a “Financial Professional”. I believe a lot of his business is long term financial planning. Probably mostly retirement planning. The big question, would Trey recommend Chrissy’s “Strategies/system” or his “Inner Circle” to any of his clients? We know the answer. It’s absolutely not.

Could you imagine if you had a financial planner and he suggested this nonsense to you that Chrissy spews?




Maybe someone can call Trey’s office and ask if he recommends the”Millionaire Blueprint”? If that answer is “No”, then why wouldn’t he recommend a book written by his good buddy?

Trey is another one Druff should reach out to for a guest appearance on his show. Obviously wouldn’t happen but Dan’s radio show would provide a bigger audience than these “shows” he’s appearing on in these videos.

I’m more on the side of Trey being a scammer as well since we know multiple people advised him on exactly who and what Chrissy is and has done in the past. I get the part about not wanting to make waves but I feel very confident most of us would turn down a family dinner with a former (male) gay porn star. But then again I’m not religious so maybe those people are into it.

PV brings up good points as always and we need to find out if Trey as a financial planner recommends his dinner partner and friend Chrissy’s methods? Since the first hour is free according to his website, maybe someone can sign up.

I sure hope that if indeed people are contacting these folks (Zach, Trey, Weatherford, etc.) that they aren’t leading with “stay away from this guy because he was a gay porn star.” That’s not going to get you anywhere. The pitch has to be more about how you can’t believe anything this guy says and that he has committed fraud by promising things like a one time fee into his inner circle and then coming back for more money only a couple of months later. I also wouldn’t try explaining pro gambling and -EV to any of these people because they won’t get it. But you certainly can highlight how quickly Chrissy declares himself to be the best at anything e touches nearly immediately after he touches it for the first time. And yes…if you want to mention after stating all of this that he was in gay porn and that he swore on the Bible that he never was…well that might grab the attention of these religious folks. I wouldn’t lead with that however. It sounds too much like you’re just out to get the guy. Someone actually posted a comment on one of RyobiGuy’s videos telling him to be careful with Chrissy because Chrissy has been convicted of raping children. Come on….Firstly as horrible as Chrissy is that statement certainly isn’t true and all it did was set things up such that RyobiGuy could easily ignore any other warning that came after this.

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I sure hope that if indeed people are contacting these folks (Zach, Trey, Weatherford, etc.) that they aren’t leading with “stay away from this guy because he was a gay porn star.” That’s not going to get you anywhere. The pitch has to be more about how you can’t believe anything this guy says and that he has committed fraud by promising things like a one time fee into his inner circle and then coming back for more money only a couple of months later. I also wouldn’t try explaining pro gambling and -EV to any of these people because they won’t get it. But you certainly can highlight how quickly Chrissy declares himself to be the best at anything e touches nearly immediately after he touches it for the first time. And yes…if you want to mention after stating all of this that he was in gay porn and that he swore on the Bible that he never was…well that might grab the attention of these religious folks. I wouldn’t lead with that however. It sounds too much like you’re just out to get the guy. Someone actually posted a comment on one of RyobiGuy’s videos telling him to be careful with Chrissy because Chrissy has been convicted of raping children. Come on….Firstly as horrible as Chrissy is that statement certainly isn’t true and all it did was set things up such that RyobiGuy could easily ignore any other warning that came after this.

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Just get people to watch some of Chrissy's non-gambling videos:
Are you going to get vaguely happy Chrissy, complete hypocrite Chrissy, Chrissy in the bunker hating on life?

Thats not someone you can trust to put on stage.

Hell, get them to watch the one of those gambling videos where he starts dropping F bombs and then claims he doesnt get emotional when gambling.

As for Trey, I watched a few moments of those two clips, he does come across as a bit of a yokel.
Not sure if thats part of his gimmick, or if thats who he is.

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Unless this guy lives right next door to the Casino, how much travel time is he spending for his "5 minutes of action"?

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Unless yhis guy lives right next door to the Casino, how much travel time is he spending for his "5 minutes of action"?

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He lives(lived) in TX when he first learned of him. Apparently, he and Bob Hesley became besties after the coke fueled video from the suite. Speaking of Bob, just spotted something that if you ever doubted if he was in love with Scammers…




Hahahahahaha, could this guy be any more of a Sap? I get it he’s old and a prime target for scammers, but geez his stupidity knows no bounds!

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I sure hope that if indeed people are contacting these folks (Zach, Trey, Weatherford, etc.) that they aren’t leading with “stay away from this guy because he was a gay porn star.” That’s not going to get you anywhere. The pitch has to be more about how you can’t believe anything this guy says and that he has committed fraud by promising things like a one time fee into his inner circle and then coming back for more money only a couple of months later. I also wouldn’t try explaining pro gambling and -EV to any of these people because they won’t get it. But you certainly can highlight how quickly Chrissy declares himself to be the best at anything e touches nearly immediately after he touches it for the first time. And yes…if you want to mention after stating all of this that he was in gay porn and that he swore on the Bible that he never was…well that might grab the attention of these religious folks. I wouldn’t lead with that however. It sounds too much like you’re just out to get the guy. Someone actually posted a comment on one of RyobiGuy’s videos telling him to be careful with Chrissy because Chrissy has been convicted of raping children. Come on….Firstly as horrible as Chrissy is that statement certainly isn’t true and all it did was set things up such that RyobiGuy could easily ignore any other warning that came after this.

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I totally agree with you in terms of initiating contact with these cohorts. If someone reached out to me out of the blue and started badmouthing my associates, I would be highly skeptical. I believe that people are some emotional when they trying to get good old Chrissy in trouble. Yeah sure he taking advantage of scamming others and claiming he’s the greatest like he’s Tom Brady, Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali. One has to come at these individuals with a practical and methodical approach. If there is more than one person applying this method, then it could make these protégés of his take a second and deeper look into the background and character of him. When there is smoke, there is certainly fire. We know that the flames will definitely spread with the right kindle and the insightfulness from the proper outlets. At end of the day, all of this will catch up to him.

And besides, it is true even with all the money in the world, it can’t solve everything or make you happy. Look at Christopher’s life. His upbringing was less than ideal. The true occupations that he had consisted of manipulating other and entertaining a certain male audience. His wife is a the definition of a deadbeat mom with the same pathetic mindset as her feeble minded husband. Don’t get me started about non-verbal Bubs. Besides the age of Stacy’s worn out eggs and uterus (plus her breastfeeding while constantly drinking alcohol) along with Christopher’s rotten sperm has put this poor child behind so many odds and obstacles. Let’s add the following to Christopher’s resume…Hmmm…Bad credit, in-laws co-signs and Daddy Foster loans, owning no property or liquid assets, sporadic nomadic lifestyles on the run from creditors and from people he burned, what a great life to live.

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Chrissy apparently making a few friends down there. This one is another Craft masterminder that runs a cryo-therapy business.

Only a matter of time before he uses these people up and moves on…or they realize what he really is.

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This guy Travis Ala that Chrissy took to dinner, his time is not valuable. So how do I know this?

So the dude goes on a YouTube podcast where the channel only has 93 subscribers. Many of the videos on this particular channel have views in the single digits, yes 0 to 9 views lol. Some have ZERO views, How is that even possible? You would think the guest on the podcast would at least watch their own appearance! I can make a video of me wiping my ass and get at least 1 view.



Get this, as of writing this, the video generated a whopping 8 views! Yes folks, EIGHT VIEWS!

He knew going into it that the channel had absolutely no reach what so ever.

So why this guy would waste at least an hour of his time I have no idea!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci4yGVs-cLw

Surprisingly this Travis Ala character was in Police work for about 7 years. Not just regular police work but he was a detective? Now, how in the hell could this guy be a police detective and not stiff out Chrissy’s bullshit? Maybe that’s why he is no longer in that line of work.

Or, maybe he was just after a free birthday meal from the BLOAT? Maybe he turned the tables on bitch tits for an evening?

Seems like this Travis Ala is standard type that gets involved with Chrissy these days as a buddy:

https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/...613-story.html





Even setting aside that the main point of the article, because, well, it wasn't intentional,




Standard behavior from a cop, surely.

No response from Zach.

Chrissy must have warned him not to talk to anyone.

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I sure hope that if indeed people are contacting these folks (Zach, Trey, Weatherford, etc.) that they aren’t leading with “stay away from this guy because he was a gay porn star.” That’s not going to get you anywhere. The pitch has to be more about how you can’t believe anything this guy says and that he has committed fraud by promising things like a one time fee into his inner circle and then coming back for more money only a couple of months later. I also wouldn’t try explaining pro gambling and -EV to any of these people because they won’t get it. But you certainly can highlight how quickly Chrissy declares himself to be the best at anything e touches nearly immediately after he touches it for the first time. And yes…if you want to mention after stating all of this that he was in gay porn and that he swore on the Bible that he never was…well that might grab the attention of these religious folks. I wouldn’t lead with that however. It sounds too much like you’re just out to get the guy. Someone actually posted a comment on one of RyobiGuy’s videos telling him to be careful with Chrissy because Chrissy has been convicted of raping children. Come on….Firstly as horrible as Chrissy is that statement certainly isn’t true and all it did was set things up such that RyobiGuy could easily ignore any other warning that came after this.

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This is a horrible take.

The most effective hits on right wingers come from the right but you have to do it with sincerity, if it comes across as left wing concern trolling it won't stick.

Harassing people who have contact with Mitchell makes him toxic and maybe too much trouble to deal with.

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I sure hope that if indeed people are contacting these folks (Zach, Trey, Weatherford, etc.) that they aren’t leading with “stay away from this guy because he was a gay porn star.” That’s not going to get you anywhere. The pitch has to be more about how you can’t believe anything this guy says and that he has committed fraud by promising things like a one time fee into his inner circle and then coming back for more money only a couple of months later. I also wouldn’t try explaining pro gambling and -EV to any of these people because they won’t get it. But you certainly can highlight how quickly Chrissy declares himself to be the best at anything e touches nearly immediately after he touches it for the first time. And yes…if you want to mention after stating all of this that he was in gay porn and that he swore on the Bible that he never was…well that might grab the attention of these religious folks. I wouldn’t lead with that however. It sounds too much like you’re just out to get the guy. Someone actually posted a comment on one of RyobiGuy’s videos telling him to be careful with Chrissy because Chrissy has been convicted of raping children. Come on….Firstly as horrible as Chrissy is that statement certainly isn’t true and all it did was set things up such that RyobiGuy could easily ignore any other warning that came after this.

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This is a horrible take.

The most effective hits on right wingers come from the right but you have to do it with sincerity, if it comes across as left wing concern trolling it won't stick.

Harassing people who have contact with Mitchell makes him toxic and maybe too much trouble to deal with.

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If you harass people who have contact with Mitchell (but aren't actively promoting his scam), all you're doing is validating Chrissy's "dead broke jealous haters" rhetoric. You need to be sure NOT to make these people feel like they're being targeted. Otherwise they will think, "I did nothing wrong, and this person is harassing me. Christopher is right, these haters of his really are psycho!" They need to believe that you're showing actual concern for them (which is true).

I agree with Rivers that bringing up the gay porn stuff isn't the best opening line, even with fellow Christians. It's better to state that Chrissy is a known scammer, and that all credible professional gamblers will tell you that he's a joke and a scam artist. Politely suggest they do their research, and suggest they pick any known professional gambler and e-mail them about Chrissy.

Christianity is also a lot about forgiveness and reforming yourself. Chrissy can simply explain away the gay porn that he didn't touch another man, and was exploited when "18" (even though he was as old as 31) by bad people, but that since then he's turned his life around. This might actually earn him points, rather than make them want to stay away from him. Christians love a good story of a guy who was on the wrong path but is now living a righteous life thanks to finding Christ.

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This is a horrible take.

The most effective hits on right wingers come from the right but you have to do it with sincerity, if it comes across as left wing concern trolling it won't stick.

Harassing people who have contact with Mitchell makes him toxic and maybe too much trouble to deal with.

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If you harass people who have contact with Mitchell (but aren't actively promoting his scam), all you're doing is validating Chrissy's "dead broke jealous haters" rhetoric. You need to be sure NOT to make these people feel like they're being targeted. Otherwise they will think, "I did nothing wrong, and this person is harassing me. Christopher is right, these haters of his really are psycho!" They need to believe that you're showing actual concern for them (which is true).

I agree with Rivers that bringing up the gay porn stuff isn't the best opening line, even with fellow Christians. It's better to state that Chrissy is a known scammer, and that all credible professional gamblers will tell you that he's a joke and a scam artist. Politely suggest they do their research, and suggest they pick any known professional gambler and e-mail them about Chrissy.

Christianity is also a lot about forgiveness and reforming yourself. Chrissy can simply explain away the gay porn that he didn't touch another man, and was exploited when "18" (even though he was as old as 31) by bad people, but that since then he's turned his life around. This might actually earn him points, rather than make them want to stay away from him. Christians love a good story of a guy who was on the wrong path but is now living a righteous life thanks to finding Christ.

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I was using harass very liberally, like posting them in this thread, but I will disagree with this. People are risk averse and if you're too much of a hassle to deal with they'll avoid you, even if it's not your fault. And some blackmarks can never be washed off, there's always doubt given previous behavior.

If you spammed Minister Craft with the gay porn it would have an effect, it's bad PR and he's only tolerating Mitchell because he's a cash cow being milked. If having Mitchell around is -EV he'll get rid of him. Craft is a religious entrepreneur, he'll do whatever is best for his business.

Being a scammer will be a deal breaker for some people, being a clown will be a deal breaker for some people, and being in degenerate gay porn will be a deal breaker for others. Some may need all three, since Craft is a scammer and clownish himself hit him with something that makes him uncomfortable.

Different people will be offended by different things it always depends on your audience.

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If you harass people who have contact with Mitchell (but aren't actively promoting his scam), all you're doing is validating Chrissy's "dead broke jealous haters" rhetoric. You need to be sure NOT to make these people feel like they're being targeted. Otherwise they will think, "I did nothing wrong, and this person is harassing me. Christopher is right, these haters of his really are psycho!" They need to believe that you're showing actual concern for them (which is true).

I agree with Rivers that bringing up the gay porn stuff isn't the best opening line, even with fellow Christians. It's better to state that Chrissy is a known scammer, and that all credible professional gamblers will tell you that he's a joke and a scam artist. Politely suggest they do their research, and suggest they pick any known professional gambler and e-mail them about Chrissy.

Christianity is also a lot about forgiveness and reforming yourself. Chrissy can simply explain away the gay porn that he didn't touch another man, and was exploited when "18" (even though he was as old as 31) by bad people, but that since then he's turned his life around. This might actually earn him points, rather than make them want to stay away from him. Christians love a good story of a guy who was on the wrong path but is now living a righteous life thanks to finding Christ.

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I was using harass very liberally, like posting them in this thread, but I will disagree with this. People are risk averse and if you're too much of a hassle to deal with they'll avoid you, even if it's not your fault. And some blackmarks can never be washed off, there's always doubt given previous behavior.

If you spammed Minister Craft with the gay porn it would have an effect, it's bad PR and he's only tolerating Mitchell because he's a cash cow being milked. If having Mitchell around is -EV he'll get rid of him. Craft is a religious entrepreneur, he'll do whatever is best for his business.

Being a scammer will be a deal breaker for some people, being a clown will be a deal breaker for some people, and being in degenerate gay porn will be a deal breaker for others. Some may need all three, since Craft is a scammer and clownish himself hit him with something that makes him uncomfortable.

Different people will be offended by different things it always depends on your audience.

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This is somewhat more accurate, but Chrissy is a unique situation because his way of dealing with critics is to accuse them of being "stalkers" and "dead broke jealous haters".

If, in attempt to scare away his victims you end up looking like a stalker/hater, then it makes Chrissy look like he was telling the truth, and they trust him even more.

This is often how cult leaders succeed in brainwashing their followers. They tell new members that their friends and family will be "jealous" or "controlling", and they need to cut out anyone who does not let them decide for themselves. Sure enough, these people see their friends and family get more and more aggressive regarding demanding they drop out of the cult, and the leader looks like he's correct, and is the only one to be trusted.

The gay porn won't be a dealbreaker for many. In 2022, gay is no big deal. The porn part is obviously more embarrassing, but Chrissy just excuses it as being young and exploitable, and twists it into a success story of overcoming adversity.

Most of these people will be impossible to convince until they actually lose their ass using his systems.

Chrissy will also just say he was doing whatever it took as thats one of his current catch phrases.

The real issue is, Chrissy and Zach's video is not exactly a success.
Did Chris win money -- probably, Was it life changing, not based on how Chrissy discussed it.

Zach will probably realise risking $3k, losing at least $2400 of it, to win maybe $500 profit probably isnt worth the stress, especially since Chrissy really had to work it to win it (supposedly).

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Seems like this Travis Ala is standard type that gets involved with Chrissy these days as a buddy:

https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/...613-story.html





Even setting aside that the main point of the article, because, well, it wasn't intentional,




Standard behavior from a cop, surely.

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I’m trying to piece the story together...

In March 2015, Travis was driving his OWN vehicle when traffic came to a stop and he hit a vehicle from behind - Killing THREE people. Now, one person was laying down (in the vehicle he hit) in the backseat, presumably with no seat belt.
A grand Jury chose not to indict him on anything serious. He did end up paying a fine (infraction).

Sometime around the same time of this incident he pointed his gun at passing motorist. I’m going to assume he was on duty during this stunt. He was indicted for this, however it doesn’t say the outcome of the court case.

Fast forward about a year to 2016 and Travis resigns from the police department. It doesn’t say why. It’s possible that an agreement was reached in his gun pointing case that if he were to resign they would drop all charges.

As far as slamming into the rear of a a stopped vehicle, I think we have all slammed on our beaks to avoid hitting the vehicle in front of us at one time or another. A split second, or a few feet can be life and death. Legally responsible? Yes. Should he do jail time? No.
The gun pulling incident is a Different story. WTF was he thinking?

Usually with police work, you either won’t last a year or you will do it for life. So it is strange that he would voluntarily resign after 7 years. With police officers their entire identity is usually made up of being a “cop” - both on and off the job.

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If you harass people who have contact with Mitchell (but aren't actively promoting his scam), all you're doing is validating Chrissy's "dead broke jealous haters" rhetoric. You need to be sure NOT to make these people feel like they're being targeted. Otherwise they will think, "I did nothing wrong, and this person is harassing me. Christopher is right, these haters of his really are psycho!" They need to believe that you're showing actual concern for them (which is true).

I agree with Rivers that bringing up the gay porn stuff isn't the best opening line, even with fellow Christians. It's better to state that Chrissy is a known scammer, and that all credible professional gamblers will tell you that he's a joke and a scam artist. Politely suggest they do their research, and suggest they pick any known professional gambler and e-mail them about Chrissy.

Christianity is also a lot about forgiveness and reforming yourself. Chrissy can simply explain away the gay porn that he didn't touch another man, and was exploited when "18" (even though he was as old as 31) by bad people, but that since then he's turned his life around. This might actually earn him points, rather than make them want to stay away from him. Christians love a good story of a guy who was on the wrong path but is now living a righteous life thanks to finding Christ.

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I was using harass very liberally, like posting them in this thread, but I will disagree with this. People are risk averse and if you're too much of a hassle to deal with they'll avoid you, even if it's not your fault. And some blackmarks can never be washed off, there's always doubt given previous behavior.

If you spammed Minister Craft with the gay porn it would have an effect, it's bad PR and he's only tolerating Mitchell because he's a cash cow being milked. If having Mitchell around is -EV he'll get rid of him. Craft is a religious entrepreneur, he'll do whatever is best for his business.

Being a scammer will be a deal breaker for some people, being a clown will be a deal breaker for some people, and being in degenerate gay porn will be a deal breaker for others. Some may need all three, since Craft is a scammer and clownish himself hit him with something that makes him uncomfortable.

Different people will be offended by different things it always depends on your audience.

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I’m not going debate this as you’re free to do as you like, but I would suggest looking at the case of Brown Nose Brandon Wingerter!

Granted he’s a headcase and lonely for friendship like so many of the other suckers. But he is aware of the anti-Chrissy videos on YouTube, this Forum, the Gay Porn past and as we’ve seen him Losing quite often in the presence of his idol! Yet he still continues to pay the guy thousands of dollars for worthless advice! People like that get galvanized further when you attack their “friend” and these religious saps are worse when you attack their Bible thumping buddies.

I’m not saying it wouldn’t be fun to troll these guys with spam emails occasionally and posting links to Colt Studios on their social media. But you can’t really get through to these types using that method.