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Trump will never resign. He'll make Congress *force him to* leave office, then use it as evidence of how "Washington is rigged".Quote:
Originally Posted by Muck Ficon
Trump will never get impeached. He will resign before that ever happens. He will throw a fit, blame the rigged system, and take his ball and go home.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
aaaaand there goes the market, again.
More bad news!!
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/23/inve...inkId=35782876
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Donald Trump was most famous for being a real estate developer before he became a reality TV star and then wound up Leader of the Free World. So it may not be a huge shock to find out that homebuilders have been on fire since he was inaugurated.
Pulte (PHM), DR Horton (DHI) and Lennar are all up more than 10% in the past two months and are among the top 25 stocks in the S&P 500 since President Trump took office.
Even though mortgage rates could climb if the economy continues to pick up steam (with or without a Trump stimulus package this year) and as the Federal Reserve hikes short-term interest rates, builders are confident more people will be buying homes.
Stuart Miller, the CEO of Lennar (LEN), said in the company's earnings release this week that there was an "improving macroeconomic environment following last year's election."
He pointed to "renewed optimism, wage and job growth, and consumer confidence." Miller added that "as a result, our homebuilding operations have gone from slow and steady to a faster than expected sales pace throughout our first quarter."
The hope is that the economy, which already had started to pick up some steam in the past year before Trump's victory, will continue to gain momentum.
If that happens, prospective homebuyers may not be scared off by higher rates because their wages are also going up.
Related: Donald Trump wants 4% GDP growth. 3% will do just fine
And so far, that appears to be the case. New home sales surged more than 6% in February, to their highest levels in seven months. This could be just the beginning of an upturn.
"Taking into account a wide variety of indicators, the housing market continues its march higher. We expect further gains this year," said Barclays economist Rob Martin in a report about the new home sales figures Thursday.
Trump has told congress to vote on Trumpcare on Friday or never fuck with Obamacare again.
No, seriously.
But they've already delayed it because they don't have the votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
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Originally Posted by hongkongerBut they've already delayed it because they don't have the votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Absolutely no one can make sense of it but it happened.
Apparently trumpkins already started milking the London attacks. Last evening Sebastian Gorka, national security aide to the president had this to say:
“The war is real and that’s why executive orders like president Trump’s travel moratorium are so important,”
What's silly about all this is that the guy that was responsible for the London attacks isn't an immigrant or a refugee. He was born in Britain 52 years ago. Sebastian Gorka on the other hand is an immigrant and his parents were refugees. Gorka was naturalized in 2012 and it only took him 4 years before he tried to board a plane in the US with a 9mm handgun.
Am I hearing Marshall law rule for presenting or passing a bill, any bill? Maybe I hit the psi channel
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Originally Posted by sonatine
http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-l...tting-on-ahca/Quote:
In the wake of President Donald Trump apparently throwing in the towel on the American Health Care Act as he’s said he’s done negotiating and just wants a vote on it tomorrow before moving on to tax reform, MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell took the president to task for the message he sent to Congress.
“If you are a House Republican and this is a tough vote for you, the president is saying to you on the front page of the New York Times tomorrow,” O’Donnell said. “I quit, and I quit in the Senate. I do not have the patience or the ability to stay focused on this and get it through the Senate, which is much harder than getting it through the House.”
After guest Steven Brill said he agreed with O’Donnell but wanted to point out that he watched Obamacare and it was thought to be dead “at least ten different times,” the MSNBC personality went even harder at Trump.
“This is the laziest, most ignorant president in history,” he exclaimed. “President Obama never once said something like this in the crusade to get that thing passed because he knew how to stay with it and get it passed.”
tough but fair
and god help the trump supporters on this board if the house doesn't pass this tomorrow and trump walks away from his number one campaign promise two months into his presidency
The old "the price of this time share is only good for today" high pressure sales tactic. Who could have possibly seen that coming?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Just say YES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNZpkimAZSI
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Originally Posted by blake
i hope it does pass.
i really, really do.
this is literally a 'let them eat cake' moment and the great unwashed are about to learn where their masters allegiances lay.
Perhaps you meant "Martian law". 'Cause that's prolly at Trump's comprehension level.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocrN...ature=youtu.be
Hmmm..lets see....you're a home builder that used subcontractors that violated federal law by hiring illegal immigrants, there's a candidate that is running on deporting illegal immigrants, he wins, so the clock is ticking to try and compensate for the possible loss in workforce, but you blatantly ignore common logic and do nothing......yea you deserve all the failure that comes your way.
Kelly Ann? Among us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
It's not so insulting because it's coming from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitlesKelly Ann? Among us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
kinda thought provoking tho.
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
i hope it does pass.
i really, really do.
this is literally a 'let them eat cake' moment and the great unwashed are about to learn where their masters allegiances lay.
I really do too, despite it having the potential to fuck me given my health history and the fact he's now subsidizing 50-64 year olds, which I won't be until a (god forbid) second term. That would slot me into the likely highest paying demo I assume. I honestly don't mind paying 3 times what I currently am because it makes sense. I should have to pay higher despite a life threatening illness being 11 years in the rearview mirror. It happened. I never did mind, and what they do with Medicaid won't touch me. It's scary for humanity though.
The one big thing I haven't seen accounted for is the heroin epidemic. That's reached full zenith post-Obamacare. I see some mention of substance abuse subsidies, but they have no idea of the legit holocaust they are walking into. Right now, Ohio, Pa, Kentucky, WV, first responders in many rural areas are doing nothing but driving around administering naloxone rescue shots to overdosed addicts. We're talking a two man crew doing 20 shots in 24 hours on occasion. There's a county adjacent to mine that had 40 overdoses in 48 hours. The first responders are getting counseling from psychologists who dealt with war medics, because these poor bastards are getting so fucked up walking into hell 20 times a day trying to save people. All bullshit aside, it's a 95% white issue, all in the reddest counties in a bunch of swing states. Counties Trump won 80/20, and the counties that allowed him to overtake the urban margins. There are tens of thousands of methadone patients in these towns, predominantly covered by Medicaid, which is part of the cost problem, but also a fucking political reality.
Think Chris Christie and Kasich up in New Hampshire during the primaries hugging parents times 1000. The pull yourselves up by the bootstraps party forgets all that shit when it's their kids, and they'll bury more in the first two weeks if they cut these people off than died in 9/11. The reasons the overdoses are spiking so high is because they have recently started cutting heroin with Mexican fentanyl. People are going out in intersections, public bathrooms, nodding out with their kids in the house. Two teachers both died with their kids in the house last week.
So not only will be people be getting cut off methadone, they'll be walking back into a drug supply that's way different than a year or two ago. They have like 10 state mobile morgues for weird situations where coroners for whatever reason run out of space. They've been basically parked outside a lot of these rural morgues the past 3 months. Cut these people off methadone, and it will be insanity numbers of dead addicts, almost entirely from Trump families. They won't be handwaving these families away like they would if it was black kids in the city talking about social Darwinism. These are their people in the states they need. You'd be hard pressed to walk down a street and find a family untouched by it in certain areas.
To put it into perspective, 33k people died from opioid overdoses last year. That's how many died in the entire Korean War. Since September of '15, 50k have died. That's more than Vietnam. Vietnam lasted technically for 20 years, but most of the deaths occurred over like 5-7 years. Opioid overdoses killed more in the past 18 months. 3 times the homocide rates every year. That's with tens of thousands in methadone and these first responders bringing back like 80-90% from the brink. That means like 300-400k almost dying. Think of how political the murder rates or war are, and imagine catching the heat of kicking off all the methadone patients and owning all those bodies politically. And unlike homocides which are primarily black, or war, this is largely rural and suburban white people. I saw a coroner on local tv say he passed up last year's total by the 3rd week of March. It's a pretty staggering number you don't want hung on you and grieving families rarely look in the mirror. If their kid was getting help and you cut them off, good luck with that at the ballot box. You could let in every Syrian refugee seeking refuge in the western world and any terrorism related deaths that result would be less than the deaths from cutting off Medicaid to a single town, let alone the entire nation.
Paul Ryan lol. A guy who's getting set up to take the fall. This healthcare bill is all on him. He's just waiting in line with the rest of these people...to get slaughtered when shit goes wrong for Trump.
agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
i hope it does pass.
i really, really do.
this is literally a 'let them eat cake' moment and the great unwashed are about to learn where their masters allegiances lay.
here is a prime example of fuckwit trump voter.
The family of a northern Indiana restaurant owner who ICE detained during a routine check-in in February says he’s scheduled for deportation Friday. Roberto
Beristain is the owner of a popular restaurant in Granger called Eddie’s Steak Shed. His family says he came to the United States fromMexico City illegally in 1998. He
later obtained documentation to work in the country and checked in with ICE each year. It was during one of those check ins last month that ICE took Beristain
into custody because of an incident in 2000. Roberto and his wife, Helen, were visiting Niagara Falls that year and accidentally crossed into Canada. Officers there
detained Roberto when they realized he was in the U.S. illegally. Helen says a lawyer helped get Roberto out on bail, but he was told he had to voluntarily leave the
country within a month. Roberto decided not to self deport because Helen was pregnant at the time. An ICE spokesperson says when Roberto failed to deport himself,
his voluntary order revered to a final order of removal, meaning ICE could detain him. They didn’t act on that order for more than a decade.
During an interview earlier this month, Helen said she voted for President Donald Trump because she supports his immigration policies. She said criminals should
be deported, but she didn’t think her husband would face that fate.
“[Trump] did say the good people would not be deported, the good people would be checked,” Helen said. Roberto’s family says he’s already been moved from the
detention center they visited him at in Kenosha, Wisc. An ICE spokesperson says in a statement the agency cannot release information about upcoming removals for
security reasons.
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Originally Posted by gimmick
Adrian Russell (lol) who was a Muslim convert.
His Muslim credentials can't be called into question though. Been confirmed that he tried to haggle over his hotel bill on the morning he knew he was going to die.
Truth is that Americans are more in danger from traveling Brits than refugees from war-torn countries.
Senate Repubes vote in favor of poor ISP's.
The US Senate today voted to eliminate broadband privacy rules that would have required ISPs to get consumers' explicit consent before selling or sharing Web browsing data and other private information with advertisers and other companies.
The privacy rules were approved in October 2016 by the Federal Communications Commission's then-Democratic leadership, but are opposed by the FCC's new Republican majority and Republicans in Congress. The Senate today used its power under the Congressional Review Act to ensure that the FCC rulemaking "shall have no force or effect" and to prevent the FCC from issuing similar regulations in the future.
The Senate vote was 50-48, with lawmakers voting entirely along party lines.
The Senate measure was introduced two weeks ago by Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and 23 Republican co-sponsors. Flake said at the time that he is trying to "protect consumers from overreaching Internet regulation." Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) argued today that the privacy rules "hurt job creators and stifle economic growth." Cornyn also said the FCC's privacy rulemaking involves the "government picking winners and losers," and was among the "harmful rules and regulations put forward by the Obama administration at the last moment."
The Senate action "would allow Comcast, Verizon, Charter, AT&T, and other broadband providers to take control away from consumers and relentlessly collect and sell their sensitive information without the consent of that family," Markey said. That sensitive information includes health and financial information, and information about children, he said. ISPs want to "draw a map" of where families shop and go to school, and sell it to data brokers "or anyone else who wants to make a profit off you," Markey said.
Triple dip. ISP's will charge you for service, sell your activity to advertisers, and charge a toll to content providers.
This is the Republican utopia.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...o-advertisers/
I'm wondering how Druff will rationalize supporting this. Or will he "go rogue" and denounce it?Quote:
Originally Posted by LegallyNonBindingPosts
:popcorn
This can't be reversed either. Republicans never tell the voters what they really have planned, nobody supports their policies Look at the polling on anything GOP passes and it's almost always universally despised.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegallyNonBindingPosts
They've got billionaire funded companies using behavioral science software and many other programs in place to mislead the voters. Also anytime they pass something real shady (like their healthcare bill) the most draconian part won't take effect until the next election cycle when a probable Democrat will be president. Then they use their propaganda arm to blame it on them when their changes roll out.
It's incredible how low down and dirty Republicans are by default. This term they're all fucking on board w treason for Putin, openly trying to eliminate the middle class, trying to starve the poor and elderly, imploding the federal govt. Last term under Bush they knowingly lied us into war and a million people died and they created never ending terrorism and the biggest refugee crisis in history. Then they campaign on keeping us safe from the disasters they created.
Mumbles, Druff's careful about which topics he'll defend. All you need to know is he's still a proud Republican so he probably supports their draconian agenda. In his case it's even worse because he didn't get duped by FOX News or by some clever campaign slogan. He knows he's supporting world class con men, snakes and war criminals.
Every single Republican campaigned on repealing Obamacare. Now the people see the policy
Keith at his best. Wow @ the Secret Service fuck ups.Quote:
Only 17% of Americans support the Republican healthcare bill, according to a poll released Thursday from Quinnipiac University. A Quinnipiac press release said every age demographic, gender, and ethnicity opposed the bill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ntA246Fokg
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Originally Posted by LegallyNonBindingPosts
yeah i saw this yesterday, honestly it deserves its own thread but the details are so murky that i didnt want to pull the trigger.
thing is, once you lower the bar for things like browsing history to the point where you can sell it, its also much, much easier for law enforcement to obtain. forget warrants, etc.
From what I've heard from Druff over the years, he's not a complete RepubliBot. I've heard him argue for some of the Obamacare reforms, and he has even argued that a major failure of Obamacare was that it does almost nothing about cost control (because he fails to mention how Obamacare cut hundreds of billions from projected Medicare costs, so he probably meant *privately* funded healthcare). And government-directed cost control is anathema to the Republican-touted philosophy of "free markets". So, you have to give him credit for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaThis can't be reversed either. Republicans never tell the voters what they really have planned, nobody supports their policies Look at the polling on anything GOP passes and it's almost always universally despised.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegallyNonBindingPosts
They've got billionaire funded companies using behavioral science software and many other programs in place to mislead the voters. Also anytime they pass something real shady (like their healthcare bill) the most draconian part won't take effect until the next election cycle when a probable Democrat will be president. Then they use their propaganda arm to blame it on them when their changes roll out.
It's incredible how low down and dirty Republicans are by default. This term they're all fucking on board w treason for Putin, openly trying to eliminate the middle class, trying to starve the poor and elderly, imploding the federal govt. Last term under Bush they knowingly lied us into war and a million people died and they created never ending terrorism and the biggest refugee crisis in history. Then they campaign on keeping us safe from the disasters they created.
Mumbles, Druff's careful about which topics he'll defend. All you need to know is he's still a proud Republican so he probably supports their draconian agenda. In his case it's even worse because he didn't get duped by FOX News or by some clever campaign slogan. He knows he's supporting world class con men, snakes and war criminals.
They did this so they weren't alone. Big Brothers it shall be. And it means you really don't have to read the terms of service agreements anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegallyNonBindingPosts
Since this new ISP bill had more than enough votes I read that Rand Paul voted no even tho he's a cosponsor, what a phony. If I can link any any new advertising to this new ruling I'm boycotting that company for life. I do that with all aggressive advertising.
Yea let me watch this two minute ad so I never forget to boycott your ass. Someone should make a handy dandy list of businesses in bed with the GOP's draconian agenda.
From the Mercer's behavioral science studies to the private prisons to shit we can't imagine this bill is the mother of all slippery slopes. It probably won't get to draconian until after the Democrats win by a landslide (unless the GOP's trojan horse Hillary runs again) like the GOP wealthcare plan.
The 24 million losing healthcare and the insane price hikes will take place over a 10 year period aka they'll blame it on the Democrats. Will it work? Probably, their voters are certainly dumb enough.
Sometimes I get the feeling the border wall will be used to keep us in not keep them out, the North Korean model.
yeah so it's safe to say breitbart wants to see the healthcare bill fail. today's lead story. love the pic
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...inst-gop-poll/
also now it's coming out that supposedly bannon was secretly working against it
So Paul Ryan is telling Trump they do not have enough votes. They are going to go ahead with the vote today anyways.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politi...lth-care-vote/
ryan is a libertarian.
this is a libertarian health care bill.
say what you will about libertarians, the absolute last thing you want to let them near is health care if youre not spectacularly wealthy.
in related news, Fox Business just opened todays segment by flatly declaring that todays GOP is simply incapable of governance and spent 30 straight minutes on a grand tour of their deficiencies and failures.
i love how when the bill was proposed, it was trumpcare.
but now that its going to fail, its ryancare.
"ART OF THE DEAL" BTW
#adulted
So much for the vote on the healthcare bill lol. GOP bailed last minute. Guess Trump's threats weren't enough.
Who do you believe?Quote:
Donald Trump said Keystone XL pipeline would create 28,000 jobs. US State Department says 50
Now we know why the GOP's defunding of the State dept. They do need this shit they have Infowars and Breitbart.
I'm done, enough politics for the day.
I'm glad the health bill failed.
It was attempting to replace one shitty health care bill with another.
It fixed some things about the ACA while breaking new things.
No thanks.
Take some time, put together a REAL healthcare bill which will bring true reform to the mess that is health care in this country, and come back later.
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