"Slippery slope" is highly offensive to Yao Ming, time to make Cuban sell his franchiseQuote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
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"Slippery slope" is highly offensive to Yao Ming, time to make Cuban sell his franchiseQuote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
This reminds me of this story I read about some burglar who broke into some random house and stole a bunch of VHS/DVD and a laptop, only to find that they were all filled to the brim with kiddie porn. So the burglar mailed/dropped off all the shit at the local cop shop with a little note about how he found them. They go arrest the guy and now he is sitting in prison for a nice little stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrslySiriusFWIW, she claims that it was recorded with his knowledge, at his request. http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/27/donald...rded-clippers/Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
But assuming she's full of shit, sure, it's unfair. The leaking of the recording was no fault of his own. But it's still out there. You can't just expect the NBA to ignore it and all the backlash that came with it. This isn't a court of law where the evidence has standards of admissibility. Sponsors are jumping ship and the league is left with a shitstorm on their hands. You can't send the message that you condone that sort of rhetoric.
Is it fair that the recording was leaked? Probably not. However in this case I think in a karmic sense it is perfectly fair, the same way it wasn't "fair" to some asshole that had a huge cp stash that got burglarized but fuck him.
The thing that trips me out is who the fuck wouldn't want to see Magic Johson at their basketball games? Jesus Christ I don't care how fucking racist you are that's Gotdamn Magic Johnson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0bcBgZebhEQuote:
Originally Posted by nunbeaterThis reminds me of this story I read about some burglar who broke into some random house and stole a bunch of VHS/DVD and a laptop, only to find that they were all filled to the brim with kiddie porn. So the burglar mailed/dropped off all the shit at the local cop shop with a little note about how he found them. They go arrest the guy and now he is sitting in prison for a nice little stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Is it fair that the recording was leaked? Probably not. However in this case I think in a karmic sense it is perfectly fair, the same way it wasn't "fair" to some asshole that had a huge cp stash that got burglarized but fuck him.
The thing that trips me out is who the fuck wouldn't want to see Magic Johson at their basketball games? Jesus Christ I don't care how fucking racist you are that's Gotdamn Magic Johnson.
Good analysis by Bomani Jones. He explains why he doesn't think that there is anything wrong with what was said on the recording, but why people should be angry with Sterling for his past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bLKe9-Mto#t=475
Kiddie porn is illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeaterThis reminds me of this story I read about some burglar who broke into some random house and stole a bunch of VHS/DVD and a laptop, only to find that they were all filled to the brim with kiddie porn. So the burglar mailed/dropped off all the shit at the local cop shop with a little note about how he found them. They go arrest the guy and now he is sitting in prison for a nice little stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Is it fair that the recording was leaked? Probably not. However in this case I think in a karmic sense it is perfectly fair, the same way it wasn't "fair" to some asshole that had a huge cp stash that got burglarized but fuck him.
The thing that trips me out is who the fuck wouldn't want to see Magic Johson at their basketball games? Jesus Christ I don't care how fucking racist you are that's Gotdamn Magic Johnson.
Racism is not.
The sterling issue is not about legality. It's about morality.Quote:
Originally Posted by FR1GHT
Holy shit. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is spitting fire at both sides too.
http://toprightnews.com/?p=2777
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“Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out,” he mocked. “She was like a sexy nanny playing ‘pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.’ She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.”
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The NAACP “did nothing” after Sterling was forced to pay a staggering $3 million fine for denying housing to Blacks, saying they “smell, and attract vermin,” Abdul-Jabbar noted. They were even going to present Sterling with an NAACP award on May 15th, with the Rev. Al Sharpton on hand. “Suddenly he says he doesn’t want his girlfriend posing with Magic Johnson on Instagram and we bring out the torches and rope. Shouldn’t we have all called for his resignation back then?”
Does murdering dogs count?Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBHey jackass,Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
What player has been convicted of rape or murder and continued playing?
Its hard to read this thread when theres actually people dumb enough to think he knew she was recording him. Really? If you are one of those people you're a fuckin idiot.
This says it all. Who the fuck are we when we get to judge other peoples morality?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyThe sterling issue is not about legality. It's about morality.Quote:
Originally Posted by FR1GHT
How can we say its wrong to be racist if we havent lived in someone elses shoes? Tell the family of the teenagers in Tenn that were tortured for days by n-words that they cant be racist. Tell the n-words that their loved ones who were lynched by shortbusses ancestors they cant be racist.
The only people not racist are people who only live with their own race.
The best part of this is it somehow clicks in your mind that this was unfair in any way to the kiddie porn guy. Theres nothing remotely similar between the two, and the fact that you think this way actually scares me. I think we need to keep an eye on you from now.Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeaterThis reminds me of this story I read about some burglar who broke into some random house and stole a bunch of VHS/DVD and a laptop, only to find that they were all filled to the brim with kiddie porn. So the burglar mailed/dropped off all the shit at the local cop shop with a little note about how he found them. They go arrest the guy and now he is sitting in prison for a nice little stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Is it fair that the recording was leaked? Probably not. However in this case I think in a karmic sense it is perfectly fair, the same way it wasn't "fair" to some asshole that had a huge cp stash that got burglarized but fuck him.
The thing that trips me out is who the fuck wouldn't want to see Magic Johson at their basketball games? Jesus Christ I don't care how fucking racist you are that's Gotdamn Magic Johnson.
What, can only God judge us or some other bullshit?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJThis says it all. Who the fuck are we when we get to judge other peoples morality?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
We judge the morality of public figures all the time, and to think it is bad to do so is silly.
Those of you who feel that Sterling was treated unfairly by having his private conversations recorded may enjoy this piece by Marc Randazza: http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/30/opinio...html?hpt=hp_c2
Though I support the commissioner's decision, and would support action by the board of governors to force the sale of the Clippers, I also agree with most of the points Randazza makes. It is troubling that how complete lack of privacy is becoming more and more acceptable.Quote:
What happened to Sterling was morally wrong
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First Amendment does not insulate you from criticism. In fact, that's the First Amendment in action. That is how the marketplace of ideas works. We float our ideas in the marketplace, and we see which idea sells.
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We all say things in private that we might not say in public. Sometimes we have ideas that are not fully developed -- we try them out with our closest friends. Consider it our test-marketplace of ideas. As our ideas develop, we consider whether to make them public. Should we not all have the freedom to make that choice on our own?
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Don't get me wrong. Sterling does seem to be a bad person. But sometimes the bad person is also the victim, and he stands in for us. As you applaud Stiviano for bringing the racist old man's views to light, consider if it were you speaking to a woman friend in what you thought was a private conversation.
Do we now live in a world where we can trust nobody? Where there is no privacy?
In this story, there are two villains. Sterling represents the bad old days. But Stiviano's behavior represents the horrifying future. Shouldn't we condemn the complete breakdown of privacy and trust at least as loudly as we condemn some old man's racist blathering?
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Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
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Originally Posted by JUSTIFIEDhomicide
Oprah considering Clippers bid. Clippers saga is just pure gold.
ESPN.com news services
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...geles-clippers
^^^ - Please no Oprah. That broad will do anything if she thinks it will help her name look good.
This man speaks the truth because he actually lives amongst the filthy beasts. Tell us some stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJThis says it all. Who the fuck are we when we get to judge other peoples morality?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
How can we say its wrong to be racist if we havent lived in someone elses shoes? Tell the family of the teenagers in Tenn that were tortured for days by n-words that they cant be racist. Tell the n-words that their loved ones who were lynched by shortbusses ancestors they cant be racist.
The only people not racist are people who only live with their own race.
I think a better reason not to get Oprah on board is she set up the "Rape school for girls" in Africa a few years ago, and as we all learnt from "Full Metal Jacket" the best way to stop 5 black guys raping a white girl is to give them a basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
The NBA is entertainment. The public image Sterling had created was a huge liability. If not dealt with, the outcry would have hurt the biz. If a Hollywood star is found to have neglected his cat he may not get cast for the next leading role. Sterling was just bad for show business. The cool kids kicked him to the curb. See ya.
Morality and privacy and all that jazz is good debate but not really relevant to the NBA's success.
The brand new commissioner all stiff and nervous did what Stern never could have or would have. Silver stopped this issue dead in its tracks. He showed some balls. This has never been witnessed in the NBA.
I watched Kentucky v UConn final and that exceeded the total time I watched the NBA in 3 years.
I listened to Boston sports talk complain all winter if the Celtics won a game. NBA tank-0-rama
Who the heck can follow such nonsense?
I have a suspicion Silver might rewrite the book on the draft lottery too.
You're mistaken. The players are the reason Sterling is out. They would have boycotted and not played the games and this is the playoffs. Remember, they're all nigs. They are just stupid enough to boycott the league during their busiest season. Silver doesn't have a back bone. You don't follow the NBA but every incident he had on his plate he fagged out on..from Jokim Noah telling the refs to go fuck themsleves on national television to the Toronto GM saying Fuck Brooklyn at a rally not that I disagree with the later. If he continues to let the prisoners run the asylum the NBA will be hockey before you know it. Filthy animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I agree 100% with Druff regarding the Don situation. Fucking guy was in the privacy of his own home and illegally taped. It's fucking stupid and the media blew it out of proportion like they always do. Don't take pictures with black people? That's so bad? He didn't even say n-word. Look at that douchebag honkey receiver for the Eagles. He 'wanted to fight every n-word in here'. That was a shit storm for about a week last summer, now its forgotten and the guy received a huge contract extention. This guy gets banned for life and probably forced to sell his team. Personally I think he is being punished for past transgressions. It would be nice if they admitted this.
If its a public vote amongst the owners then kiss his ass goodbye. If its anonymous they don't vote him out imo because they all know their asses could be next.
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Originally Posted by Pooh
The commissioner wouldn't have came out with his plan if he didn't already have the votes. My guess is that it will be unanimous (to show unity, lol), you know, the same guys that were the ones razzing him about his gf taking selfies with magic johnson.
Please explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
It's not what he had, it's the fact that he was victim of a burglary. Personally I think both situations are hilarious and I could give a fuck how their business got out there. My stance on fairness is bolded since you missed it the first go around. Tell Tyrone I said supQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJThe best part of this is it somehow clicks in your mind that this was unfair in any way to the kiddie porn guy. Theres nothing remotely similar between the two, and the fact that you think this way actually scares me. I think we need to keep an eye on you from now.Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
Huge difference between a terrible crime being exposed through illegal means (such as stolen tapes of a child molester abusing kids) and secretly recording a guy being a racist asshole in his private home.
I don't feel sorry for Sterling at all, as I think he's a piece of shit, and he abused his NBA ownership for a long time by intentionally fielding a lousy (aka cheap) team.
However, it's a joke that the NBA would be taking action against him for something he said to his girlfriend in his own home. Again, the only exception to this would be a recording of him admitting to a serious crime.
I keep hearing two arguments defending the NBA's actions:
1) Sterling was a known racist before, and committed many overt and public racist acts in the past, such as his housing discrimination situation about 10 years ago. My response: In that case, he should have been kicked out of the NBA at the time of those incidents, but NOT because of this current incident.
2) The NBA is a private organization and can do what it wants, or what it feels is in its best interests. My response: Yes, the NBA can do what it wants, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them. There's a difference between what you have the legal right to do and what is ethically correct. I am not arguing that the NBA won't be able to legally uphold their decision. I just think they're wrong.
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do you think he is the only billionaire nba owner that is a sick human being?
let's record and make public everything said inside the home of every owner just to be sure the nba doesn't have any undesireables
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
1) I read on espn.com yesterday that they're over 100 hundred hours of audio that the girl recorded, as well as video. It also stated he was aware he was being filmed and recorded. No explanation was given as to why he allowed it.
2) I made a wager with a friend of mind immediately after this happened that this would be the outcome. If he had stayed, he would be fielding a team of white second rate players, Europeans and draft picks that had no other choice to play for him if they wanted to be in the NBA. The protests would be insane. They may even start burning down the whole damn city. This was the only resolution that could happen.
3) I'm not familiar with the NBA by laws but I'm sure it's similar to MLB where they have they huge scope of "for the best interest of the game of baseball" which they used to suspend and eventually force Marge Schott to sell the Reds, used to ban Pete Rose for life, and suspended Steinbrenner several times for the Reggie incident, associating with the loan shark gambler dude etc.
What blows my mind again if true is the fact that he reportedly allowed these conversations to be recorded and videotaped. That debunks the excuse of an old racist man expressing his private thoughts in his home to his whore.
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Originally Posted by Drexel
This is probably BS so the girl doesn't get in trouble for it.Quote:
1) I read on espn.com yesterday that they're over 100 hundred hours of audio that the girl recorded, as well as video. It also stated he was aware he was being filmed and recorded. No explanation was given as to why he allowed it.
If he consented to being recorded, you would think this would have been mentioned and made clear when it first came out.
I am guessing he consented to other recordings of himself, but not this particular conversation.
Without reading the whole thread, it would surprise me if anyone was surprised with this guys fate.
If this clown was the owner of a English premier league club (the biggest and most watched sporting league in the world) it would be impossible for him to continue. In fact he'd be arrested and charged of racism with chance of prison time.
Once that tape was leaked it's surely game over?..... Forget all the "he was in his own home and can say what he likes nonsense".... Getting caught spewing blatant racism in the year 2014 is a simple 'off with his head' job.
Cut and dried case (in this day and age)
Horseshit Willie, and you too Druff. This isn't The Sting, Sterling wasn't set up on a long con by a couple of charming rapscallions, he brought a scumbag, degenerate, gold digging dickgirl into his home and his bed and is now paying the price for associating with undesirables.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
This private conversation going public is his own damn fault, stop it with this nonsense even insinuating that Sterling is the victim in this piece. The universe has a way of balancing the ledger over the long haul, and this fucking clown has had a reckoning coming for a long time and it's time to pay up.
Pooh and shortbus, don't even start. I don't care how much he makes on the sale of the team. This guy is going to die very rich, and also miserable and alone, hated by his wives, alienated from his children (the living ones anyway), with a legacy as a terrible husband, horrible father and one of the worst owners in sports history.
All of us reap what we sow ultimately, and actions have consequences even for the super rich.
i'm not a sterling apologist tonyb, he's obviously a terrible human being
my point is, this guy didn't break any laws that i'm aware of
it's a free market economy and he will definitely suffer from this, but it's a "slippery slope" when you force the divestiture of a billion dollar business just because the owner is an 80 year old racist who loves to fuck mulato trannys
V. Stiviano becoming even more unlikable than in her stilted-speech recording, which I thought was pretty hard to do.
Here she claims that she will becoming President of the United States:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w29syHSQW7M
She reminds me a lot of Tila Tequila, another self-promoting, attention-whoring "star" who should have never been famous.
Also, WTF is with that visor? Did she just get off from her job as a welder?
It must be REALLY hard for people to let go of this "consent" drama, didn't he acknowledge he knew he was being recorded? If that's the case why are you trying to find some sort of loophole for him?
Is it because you would never do something so blindly retarded? That's like being shocked at what fish do at poker but you're reluctant to take their money based off of it druff.
Well whatever bigot boy here as some call me.
But the old man just tells it how he feels. And his goldmining girlfriend tapes it all and rats him off. Of course after she has a house and Ferrari in her name.
So he gets banned, so what? He's got 2 billion dollars and what's 5 million there? 10 million here? Sh#t he can go out and get almost any woman he wants if he wants to. Heck even if his D#ck won't even stand up any more.
Hey some things are true like black people are the best athletes. Can dance and play music better than whites.
But black people on an average at Sterling feels are very stupid people. Unless you're one in a million like Kareen Abdul Jabbar who can excel at both as he proved in the game of Jepardy. Hey it's in their culture and in their genes sorry to say. But it's true.
But all men should be created equal but aren't.
With that I say ban him, get rid of him. He doesn't care and is too old to change.
And give me some cr#ppy rep for telling the truth about all this.
Sonny
Crowe Diddly: nobpdy here calls, or called, you "bigot boy." Lots of other things, but never that.
Up yours Crowef#ck as they didn't use those exact words but said it as it came across loud and clear here.
Well, you are a bigot, that's not really in dispute, I was just referring to the specific "bigot boy" term you used.Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
I can start now, if you like, bigot boy. This will make your statement true retroactively.
HAH YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A BIGOT IS DUDE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyWell, you are a bigot, that's not really in dispute, I was just referring to the specific "bigot boy" term you used.Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
I can start now, if you like, bigot boy. This will make your statement true retroactively.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2A194yTWoQQuote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman