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If she offered an option to pay with rewards credits but they're only worth 50%...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
They are all oblivious to the fact that Druff never ever changes his mind and is utterly relentless.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Full disclosure, I haven't read much of the thread but imo the real scammer is the doctor and system that would even ask $50k plus way more for cancer treatment.
This isn't rare or some exotic technology, it's a fucking scam.
Even if this chick is faking it's still preferrable for her to get the money, way preferrable. You as fellow poker players, what would be better a $50k infusion into the poker economy
or $50K to pad the portfolio of some overpaid, entitled, under performing gated community Ivy League sleazeball.
Is this some white chick? White people have no support system and they're openly being discriminated against. If these kinds of scams are popping up it's a sign of desperation
not some ruthless criminal mind or whatever, that would be the doctor.
Perhaps the hospitals would be able to afford the treatments they give to the patients if they simply set up a GoFundMe. JKQuote:
Originally Posted by Entropy
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Originally Posted by Entropy
as if she's not on social security disability already with medicare.
even if not, she's on obama care which means a max annual deduction of $10k.
Who cares what she's on. She wanted that 50k or more to use the vast majority to play poker. Anyone with half a brain can see that. She put out there the worst worst case scenario in regards to her medical issue that she isn't even close to dealing with because it sounds awful and she wanted sympathy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TellafriendQuote:
Originally Posted by Entropy
as if she's not on social security disability already with medicare.
even if not, she's on obama care which means a max annual deduction of $10k.
At the end of the day she probably won't get 50k but maybe 20-25k which is a nice chunk of change to try and build your bankroll.
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Originally Posted by ReformDormWho cares what she's on. She wanted that 50k or more to use the vast majority to play poker. Anyone with half a brain can see that. She put out there the worst worst case scenario in regards to her medical issue that she isn't even close to dealing with because it sounds awful and she wanted sympathy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
At the end of the day she probably won't get 50k but maybe 20-25k which is a nice chunk of change to try and build your bankroll.
you couldn't have misunderstood the intent of my post any worse had you tried to.
The next one for Detective Druff, asking for $100K with no proof? Obv was cheating during WSOP as well.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/ntba8-help-hal
:popcorn
Best part of the story is the person on twitter implying that Todd runs a cult that drives women to suicide.
How long is his hit list?
Old habits die hard.
:lol2
I was so worried I had to get my fake eyelashes done.
$50k…bitch be greedy.
Mark0778 is more my style of dupe.
New, low effort profile, no previous tweets.
Not me though.
Looks like some people just don't want to be the target of crazy girl.
Perhaps dislike dramaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I cringe whenever I see a GoFundMe pop up, because the subtext behind all of them is 'I'm poor'.
I've only ever coughed up to a few but it's always for either someone I know really well or someone who is just upfront with whatever ails them. If it's shrouded in flowery language and feels like a fundraiser I'm out.
Not defending Druff's nemesis at all but just a tough state of affairs in this country that necessitates well-meaning people, often employed, to effectively beg when hit with a health crisis, especially if it's their child.
I'm sure it's often abused by low income drug addicts looking to squeeze their networks to get high as well but not my Facebook network mostly comprised of friends/acquaintances from high school and college.
Or gambling addicts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
Joseph Cheong brought up a good point today that I wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the pushback I did, had I been calling out another man in a situation like this one. If it were a man, I definitely would have called it out just as aggressively.
People are suckers for a damsel in distress, especially if they are white and at least semi-attractive. This is where female scammers have a big edge over male scammers, though for whatever reason, men tend to scam more often than women. But the women who do it can be incredibly effective, especially if conventionally attractive. I said many years ago that I was shocked there weren't more young, pretty girls taking advantage of all the young male poker simps during the boom years. It was a goldmine for that.
It should also be noted that almost all of my scamming allegations have been against other men. There would be very little to talk about on PFA Radio if I limited my criticism to women.
What's interesting is that a number of people took their donations BACK, upon learning more about what was really going on.
Despite about $300-$400 in donations within the past day, the total donations are DOWN by about $1400 (to around $16,400), and about 11 people seem to have clawed back the money.
Interesting that none of them are coming forward. They just quietly requested a refund, and apparently got it. I don't use gofundme, so I don't know exactly how it works. But looks like there was a good deal of donors' remorse.
You telll 'em, Rob.
https://twitter.com/mercerr86/status...62586967560192
One of the people who was defending her was @kitkatpoker, she donated $1000. I just checked the gofundme and I don't see her donation anymore. I'm glad to see people coming to their senses and getting their money back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Wow that's really interesting. That's probably where a lot of the reduction came from, though we noticed about 11 people disappearing from the list -- like from 70 to 59. The others were probably small donations.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkeykillaOne of the people who was defending her was @kitkatpoker, she donated $1000. I just checked the gofundme and I don't see her donation anymore. I'm glad to see people coming to their senses and getting their money back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Yeah I see that KitKatPoker (who is different than the Kit Kat on PFA, who is white, whereas this one is Asian) has deleted her (pro-Jami) tweets about the situation. Good for her, if we're reading it correctly.
Doesn't want the drama, but probably realized this wasn't appeared to be, so she clawed back the money and backed away from the controversy. Nice move.
Bro I said the same thing on here before Joseph Cheong did and you give him the props lol. C'mon Todd read your member's posts before you give credit to others. The other day I wrote that 95% would be on Todd's side if it were a dude doing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffOr gambling addicts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
Joseph Cheong brought up a good point today that I wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the pushback I did, had I been calling out another man in a situation like this one. If it were a man, I definitely would have called it out just as aggressively.
People are suckers for a damsel in distress, especially if they are white and at least semi-attractive. This is where female scammers have a big edge over male scammers, though for whatever reason, men tend to scam more often than women. But the women who do it can be incredibly effective, especially if conventionally attractive. I said many years ago that I was shocked there weren't more young, pretty girls taking advantage of all the young male poker simps during the boom years. It was a goldmine for that.
It should also be noted that almost all of my scamming allegations have been against other men. There would be very little to talk about on PFA Radio if I limited my criticism to women.
Blake Bohn's girlfriend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Sorry, you do get credit for saying it first. I read it when I was tired and forgot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReformDormBro I said the same thing on here before Joseph Cheong did and you give him the props lol. C'mon Todd read your member's posts before you give credit to others. The other day I wrote that 95% would be on Todd's side if it were a dude doing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Great point.
Oh I didn't even know that. I hadn't heard of her before. I just noticed she was commenting on this, on Jami's side, and now I see all tweets related to the matter are gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReformDormBlake Bohn's girlfriend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
So the missing $1k donation from her makes sense. Good for her.
After much inner debate and looking at everything two things come to mind
1. cancer seems to be a major third rail and thread derail over it on PFA.
2. I hereby nominate Jami for early consideration for PFA 2023 fraudster of the year. I don’t know despite being earlier into 2023 this is going to be beat. This is rapidly now rising to some of our more famous incidents. She’s almost taking the Postle rout. I guess she missed the point of AntiSlapp previously when she was dumb enough to bring up Todd being sued and leaving out the whole cloth fact of the BS the lawsuit was about
I admit I tried to give Jami the benefit of the doubt maybe more then I should’ve probably but she’s jumped the shark and I so wish I’d snagged that armband photo of her in the hosptial bed which showed clearly as Jami Daniels on the arm bad so clearly that’s her legal name and her sister and her if she’s real so have the same father legal last name or Wtf ever she’s trying to spew.
One must wonder if Jami trying to take a page out of rhe CMoney play book on this whole scheme of hers. It’s clearly different. C$ didn’t try to take money from the community.
Imo if you haven't donated and have no intention to donate then you have no right have your questions answered.
Tbh it's probably rude to even ask, what if you're fucking up her cancer treatments.
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Originally Posted by Entropy
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Hi Jami!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Entropy
Something interesting I've noticed.
There's a fairly consistent trend among Twitter people with opinions on this matter. The ones hating on me mostly have either left wing political rhetoric on their page, or they have pronouns in their profile (despite not being trans). The ones on my side mostly do not have these characteristics.
So, from what I've seen:
Political right: Very likely to agree with me here
Political center or apolitical: Somewhat likely to agree with me, or at least partially agree with me
Political left: Likely to disagree with me
Political far left: Extremely likely to disagree with me, and also get really angry
*** This does not include PFA members, as this forum tends to attract the cynical and skeptical, so I assume left-wingers here also clearly saw this shit as very shady.
This is despite the fact that it is a NOT a political issue at all, and many of these people aren't familiar with me or my political views. Some have even stated that they don't know my political views but are guessing I am a "red pill" guy.
This whole thing would be a fascinating political science study. I have long felt that certain brain types and mindsets are naturally attracted to particular political ideologies, and this is furthered by a belief system which also shapes people's morals and opinions.
I developed my right-wing (though not far right) views from watching raucous political/social debate shows as a 12-year-old, and noticing I was frequently agreeing with the conservative. I honestly just watched this stuff as a kid because it was fun to see adults yell at each other, but I actually learned something from the topics being discussed. Looking back on it, I have always felt that my brain makes me a "natural" conservative, while I feel that others' brains make them more naturally inclined to be liberal.
Awww shucksQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Here is the article, if anyone is interested:
https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/t...line-altruism/
It links to this thread twice, and as I mentioned, has more of a general focus with only a small section on Jami LaFay, specifically. It does, however, touch upon many similar instances of attempting to fundraise via crowdsource...most of which were totally fraudulent.
My opinion doesn't really matter, but I think there are some shades of truth to this one, as some have also seemed to speculate. If anything about this is questionable at all, recent history with this person aside, I would say that I'd like to see more specific accounting/justification backing up the 50k figure.
End of the day, people will either donate, or not. The information that Dan Druff has uncovered, in my estimation, might guide people to making an informed decision on this one. Of course, many of us (here and Twitter) commenting were never going to donate to this GoFundMe anyway. I certainly wouldn't have because, but for this thread, I'd never even have heard of this person.
As others have said, probably not the hill I would have picked, either...but it is good that Dan has opined, investigated and those who might donate can make an informed decision. It also seems the blowback wasn't as bad as it could have been, from what I can tell.
I don't think he physically went to the medical facility and asked whilst she was in the middle of a treatment. If she has to be online to see the questions Dan is asking, then how could him asking the questions possibly fuck up one of her treatments?Quote:
Originally Posted by Entropy
Well I have moderate to left views and I agree with you 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Ftr jami made a cryptic post suggesting suicide yesterday to another Twitter account. Would suggest laying off her as she is not in a good frame of mind. To my knowledge she has not posted since. I doubt it’s a serious attempt but she clearly is not well mentally.
See I thought this is where this could go because this woman is mentally unstable. That's why 2 days ago I told Todd on here he should just drop it now. Todd rightfully brought her BS to the public but because she is a nut case you never know if she would harm herself. And Todd obviously doesn't want the backlash if that were to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBetFtr jami made a cryptic post suggesting suicide yesterday to another Twitter account. Would suggest laying off her as she is not in a good frame of mind. To my knowledge she has not posted since. I doubt it’s a serious attempt but she clearly is not well mentally.
TigerPiper,
Thank you for the compliment in the reputation thing!
Also, from the article, perhaps relevantly:
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The only thing that I will say is that she probably could have put up a GoFundMe seeking money for mental health treatment and nobody would have batted an eye. $50,000 would probably have been a little optimistic, but I’m sure there are some targets that might have been reached, and given her recent behavior, would have been quite credible!
I loved your list about how to avoid online fundraising schemes. Very thorough!
She retweeted something this morning.
She is alive and well.
Could be good information for her opponents if she has this much of a bluffing tendency at the tables, as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Also druff feel free to delete my post but here I take it her comments that Todd isn’t your real name are because tons of trolls are feeding her info?
Hats off to you if all this time you’ve been using a fake name
Radio show about it: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...er-Fraud-Alert