If you decide to cancel this site, I want to thank you for the virtual ride.
Honestly it probably would be a good move at this stage in your life.
If you decide to cancel this site, I want to thank you for the virtual ride.
Honestly it probably would be a good move at this stage in your life.
Actually, not fair at all.
The only posts removed while the thread was up were ones which were actually trolling/insulting, with nothing valuable to add. Any critical post backed by even the slightest bit of theory, research, or argument stood. For example, gimmick made several detailed posts along the way, and not a single word of any of them was edited or removed. All of his analysis was highly negative about the coin, so you can't even argue that his was allowed to stand because it was milder.
You're portraying that all criticism was censored and removed, when in fact the opposite was true from the start. This type of blatant lying is pretty much a perfect illustration of one of the reasons why I didn't want the thread to remain, nor the matter discussed here anymore. People with an ax to grind (say, someone still salty about his website link being blocked 8 months ago, after highly disrespectful spamming took place) will try to vindictively twist things into falsehoods to make me look like some sort of exploitative scammer.
That's exactly the type of shit I am not going to tolerate on my own site, and exactly the type of resentful passive-aggressive bullshit I'm sick of dealing with.
hey china get back under your rock you ran a cancer death hoax in exchange for $$$$ you are a scumbag
you also likely scammed people here with your bull shit fake weight loss hustle and caused todge to eat too many hot dog on a stick and ruin his health so yeah fuck you
both were very entertaining but yeah you are still a massive scumbag and not to be trusted on anything
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those who enjoy PFA very much, will like this scandal, many of you al get very boring and mundane after a while, sorry being honest. The same boring rhetoric and back and forths, and thats not being mean, just honest. This here though is pretty good, and this is interesting, and the fun it all to me is a few real fn SCUMBAGS in a sense, even if they were purposefully trying to mislead direction wise, will be interesting to eventually learn LOL i want to hear it all already. Maybe I really have gotten hit in head too hard too many times because i like this stuff, now im getting my popcorn readys when i come back for some of this now
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Talking about how months in advance cmoney and other posters were pretending he had cancer. I know nothing about what was actually planned between you guys for how he was supposed to die and such. I literally messaged him out of the blue for first time in over a year and within 30 secs his sister was telling me he was dead. So clearly I wasn’t in the plan.
For something that was in the works for months it was pretty poorly executed or at least had some major holes as I mentioned before.
But anyways for me it’s just curiosity. I’d love to know how it was supposed to go. And whether his online obituary was made by you guys or someone trolling him did. And like I said the plan for how the will was supposed to play out.
The only real disappointment I have with druff is that he fell for the Barbara Streisand effect here. I mean come on druff you’ve been with us for 15 years plus how did you not expect this to happen? Goes to show that maybe druff really was that stressed.
In all honesty though I don’t know how someone manages to have a life while being the sole person to run a website and radio show. I wouldn’t blame you one bit if you chose to go on a hiatus. There are some things more important than Internet forums.
So smi is a cmoney dupe?
Hmmm....
What this site needs now, is Tyde returning.
Think about it
Todd, don't shut down the site. Run it how you feel best and if people don't like your decisions so be it, they can leave.
Ban JS already, he's here just to troll. Yea he's funny sometimes and he does liven it up, but he can't take the outside abuse that you habe to deal with. When people went after his family and real life I was one of the first to standup for the guy, but when it's happening to you it's somehow dismissed or excused. He's fine with you being harassed, but not okay for it to happen to him? How is that okay... yet you let him continue to troll people that will inevitably put him back into that position and he'll come back begging for help. Either ban him or next time he harasses / trolls the wrong person let them give him a taste of the shit you get regularly and don't do anything.
For the record I don't agree with bringing people's real life into this shit unless they bring it to you first, never have never will. If you can't see how fucked this is you have legit mental issues. The guy made a decision that's best for his family and honestly when seeing the reason behind it do you blame him? If you do, maybe check your own priorities because they're fucked.
So a day of radio silence churned out a sympathy ploy and unnamed psychos for us to feel bad about? Tough look to basically play the 'run the site at a loss' card.
Please quote when I said personal stuff and harassment was ok? Like usual your comprehension is severely lacking.
My whole stance is it’s awfully convenient for Druff to moan and groan directly after he allowed a Ponzi Scheme, got his own kid into it (he told us this openly), or allowed a guy to fake a cancer death.
I’m sure if he wasn’t stressed out by Mike Postle he would have shut down the obvious pyramid scheme that Benny was part of right?
Lol wow is God.
Who gave the retard access to the thread?
Most adults with children at some point give their kids "the talk" about sex and sexual related functions.
However Mr. Dan Druff has to pull double duty. Not only is he responsible for "the talk", but unlike the rest of us he also has to have "a forum talk" and explain his "online life" about all the weirdos, creeps, ball sniffers and degenerates that interact with him on an internet message board.
So please, everyone, take a step back and think about the responsibility Mr. Druff has to deal with.
Gimmick did. He's the one who did the legwork, analyzed the traffic on the coin, who held what, etc. I saw that, did a quick Google, and found those YouTube vids I posted, which happened to have come from a brand new channel that created them less than 24 hours before I posted them here. Fortunate timing, really.
Druff fucked up, an error in judgment, allowing the thread, but he clearly had no idea it was a Ponzi. He, and Daly and the others here I'd say (excluding smiflorida), just thought they had a real ground floor entry into a new token, and took the opportunity. When investments/gambles make money right off, nobody wonders if they've invested in shady shit, they just are happy this particular onetime paid off.
Druff came around, tho. He saw the light, changed sides, and clearly regretted his previous decision. I think I can say with 100% certainty that he's spent many MANY hours thinking about this shit over the last few days, knowing there was no good or right way out that left everyone happy and didn't have further consequences for him personally, in a way the rest of us just don't have to ever deal with.
Druff unknowingly put himself in a bad spot (esp because of who he is and what he's known for and what this place stands for), he took a few to realize it, and he had no real good options for how to handle it. He went one way, backtracked, then moved forward again. Whether I fully agree or not (and tbh I'm not sure there is one right answer here), Druff has some pretty solid reasons for why he did what he did.
I think everything Druff did was in good faith, and he'll get no more shit from me about any of this. Daly, however, handled it like a little bit of a bitch.
That's part of the problem for Druff, tho. These unnamed psychos happen to be real live people, and I bet more than a few people can guess a couple of them. We can say "tough look," and it is, but that doesn't make it any less real.
I think I can say with a lot of confidence that the radio silence was Druff not finding a clean option that solves the issue and made everyone happy, including himself. Not for a lack of trying or thinking, tho.
Does anyone else feel like it’s odd China suddenly reappeared in this thread?
We so hoped we were getting in on the ground floor, but as always with PFA it was more like the 7th tier.
Let's not be rude to the word tier and bring her into this my guy
a point begging to be made; druffs inability to simply say he made a mistake generates these insane histrionic spazz outs that his 'butthair sniffing trolls' live and die for.
100 times out of 100.
does druff live for this shit or something? ive never seen anyone act like this before so i dont know what to make of it but its the rule not the exception here. he could have gotten off this train on page 1 of that thread and said look man im just in it for the lulz at this point but no, we end up with this. its almost like a seasonal thing on this site.
So are you in or out on the magenta merch you piece of shit he has to order it
Like there are Cambodian children intimately involved in this supply chain operation it's not just the Vietnamese anymore
Not really that odd. Someone tipped me off to the thread that got closed and I took a look at it. I skimmed it and it seems it was exactly how it appeared. A bunch of forum geeks crying over nothing. I will go back to being productive. Enjoy reading every word on the next x or xx pages
Literally the only way you could interpret it that way is if you’re completely ignorant or morally bankrupt. Don’t think we need to guess which one in your case.
The coin got outed as an unquestionable Ponzi scheme and the proprietors openly admitted that fact in a video that was posted. There’s a reason Druff removed the thread. I think Druff has taken too much heat here personally but also have to agree with Sonatine that if Druff was more capable of admitting when he’s wrong this wouldn’t have been nearly as big a deal as it has become. Also think BCR made a good point in that there were several well respected posters that pointed out the reasons to be skeptical early on and he ignored their advice. This whole thing could’ve been over and done with months ago.
I do feel bad for Druff though he was put in a pretty horrible spot but he also made several unforced errors along the way.
I never read the crytpo thread since I know nothing about this 'currency', nor do I want to learn anything about.
But a couple points, on Druff: 1) He has run a good and fair site for a decade now, that cannot be disputed. 2) What also cannot be disputed is 99% of the user base, forum or radio, would not lose a second of sleep if he closed this operation down. Most would simply find a new website or simply stop posting on antiquated message boards altogether. The 1% of the forum that would be affected really is Druff.
I am going to agree with Jsearles who we all agree is a huge piece of shit. This whining from Druff is way too old now. Druff says this forum is a hobby. A hobby is something that is supposed to relieve stress from every day life such as fishing or wood working. A hobby is not something that causes tremendous stress and harassment to yourself and family.
If you believe Druff, he is emotionally shot and his family is being harassed. So why put yourself and family through this trauma? I'll tell you why. He likes walking through casinos and poker rooms with his PFA hat on and accepting the attention positive or negative he receives. I am not going to accuse anyone of being a narcissist because you never can really know what is going on in someone's mind. Someone that craves attention and giving his opinion even if not asked, and being the honest man in the room is more like it.
If you are saying you and your family is being emotionally and mentally tormented, and you continue to run the site you claim is the reason for this trauma, at a financial loss no less, then stop fucking complaining or shut things down. Nobody is going to remember this site whether it closes today or 10 years from now.
I actually imagine he found himself in a horrible situation with his son. He probably taught him about investing and every morning they check the price of questionable coin. Druff probably said something along the lines of this is your coin to do with as you please and sell when you want. His son likely bragged to his friends and such. Then one day druff has to tell him he needs to sell right away. His son is confused and says “wait didn’t you tell me I get to sell when I decide”? How do you explain something like that to an 11 year old? Or that he is no longer to speak to his friends about it.
Then again we should really save our sorrys for the people who are going to get ducked over by this scam. And then again all parties here were notified well in advance and explained how shady this was.
yeah the more I think about this I can't help but think druff is looking really bad here, should have left the thread up but of course there was evidence in there, I'm surprised some ball sniffing troll hadn't made a thread on 2p2
what if one of the main players in the shitoken enterprise paid druff to remove the thread? he makes money on the coin and on the back end for removing bad press!
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