the cross outs are normal - happened last time
everyone in wave 1 made out like a bandit
druff’s stable can now grow exponentially and is probably worth $20k+
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the cross outs are normal - happened last time
everyone in wave 1 made out like a bandit
druff’s stable can now grow exponentially and is probably worth $20k+
yeah been enjoying reading the shit show on twitter what a terrible response hey we fucked up the second drop in a row, see yall monday wtf lol
What in the actual fuck is this? Please take my money!
i know you been big on this for a while willie but gotta factor in how much confidence gonna take a hit after this id be nervous putting anything into this after whats gone on
like i said its a great concept but the people running the show are clearly fucking clueless hard to have faith in a company like that with 10's of thousands on the line
ive got like 5 eth tied up in soccer nfts in a fantasy football game so this is defo something up my alley but i dont think id feel so confident about putting anything into this
Yeah I'm a little worried this might crater, so my now 7-strong stable of horses (provided I actually get them) isn't as exciting to me as it could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS
I can already see some glaring technical errors in their drop.
For example, due to all the screen movement of horses appearing and disappearing, it's easy to accidentally click on the horse itself, where it brings you to a description page of the horse, with a beautiful 3D rendering. That's the last thing they want when their server is being strained.
Furthermore, even without that, I notice that when freezing is occurring, my laptop fan starts spinning, indiciating a heavy CPU event. This means that the webpage isn't just stuck -- it is heavily processing something (likely a rapid refresh of some kind), which is likely taxing on their end, as well. So I think it's very possible that a drop with a ton of users causes their system to heat up exponentially, and then you get the epic fail we're seeing.
Clearly the way they have it set up isn't working. Even if it worked flawlessly, it has logistical issues, such as the problem where horses are constantly disappearing and the screen shuffles, plus the issue where it's multiple steps to buy them, and you keep having the problem where you go through those steps and find out someone was ahead of you, and it's back to square one.
They really should have some sort of queue where you select the type of horse(s) you're looking for, then when it's your turn, it spits out a few for you, and you have some short period to buy one (maybe 60 seconds).
I'm just riffing here with ideas off the top of my head, but it's insane that they did this almost the exact same way as last time, and had a worse result.
And as I said earlier, the Monday update is dreadful communication, given the low confidence right now. The correct thing is to promise like 10% off all horses for the replacement drop, and then to give updates on a blog every few hours or whatever.
i think if it craters or not depends on how fun the actual game is, it sure looks it at first impressions at least
i think as with all nft's its still a really new market, so if you believe in the concept its still a pretty exciting position you are in
if you are long on the product id still be pretty happy with what you have bought, if you were just after a quick flip then id imagine it will be a buyers market in the short term
Todd’s put in maybe $4-$4.5k so far. He could get almost all that back today by selling his 4 cheapest horses (that cost him about $750 total) while still keeping his 3 most expensive (by far)Quote:
Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS
I may sound like a shill but the zed economy is strong. Look how many times and ways top shot failed
all zed needs to do is fix their drops - the actual product is amazing (and addictingly fun)
Well, I got all 5, plus my original 2 from before.
https://zed.run/racehorse/28471
https://zed.run/racehorse/28441
https://zed.run/racehorse/28174
https://zed.run/racehorse/27792
https://zed.run/racehorse/27265
https://zed.run/racehorse/24623
https://zed.run/racehorse/21784
Latest problem discovered:
Remember how I said there were plenty of horses left to buy between 5:10 and 5:19 from Wave 1?
Well, apparently I didn't have to wait until 5:10. They said we did, but it turns out that wasn't necessary. Someone exploited this and got 34 (!!) horses. I actually waited 'til 5:10 and didn't test this. What a joke.
https://twitter.com/joventuraz/statu...82198027702274
Here's a guide to coat color.
All of mine are common.
https://medium.com/@zed_run/breeding...r-71f5f54c7f2a
spontaneous generation FTWQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheesfaced
Druff do you get to name the horses? If so name one Silent But Zedly
When's Christopher Mitchell going to be posting his hot tips for this?
genesis horses are already named, you can name any horse you breedQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
already suggested KROQ Ken to druff
i will of course be naming one of my first offspring yebsite
i'm honesty so jealous of druff - he's pahticipated in 2 drops and has gone from a no-horser to a whale stable, and he still gets another chance when the drop resumes
the lowest drop price for a horse was $123, and those horses go for $900+ on the secondary market
the person who was able to get 34 horses made about $30k minimum in 20 minutes
the way it was set up with the 10 minute cool down period after your first purchase i only had enough weth for one horse because i thought getting more than one would be near impossible
after druff said he was able to buy 5 i rushed an eth transfer and it literally hit my zed account with 10 seconds before my drop only to get SHUT OUT
He's a stable geniusQuote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLgenesis horses are already named, you can name any horse you breedQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
already suggested KROQ Ken to druff
i will of course be naming one of my first offspring yebsite
i'm honesty so jealous of druff - he's pahticipated in 2 drops and has gone from a no-horser to a whale stable, and he still gets another chance when the drop resumes
the lowest drop price for a horse was $123, and those horses go for $900+ on the secondary market
the person who was able to get 34 horses made about $30k minimum in 20 minutes
the way it was set up with the 10 minute cool down period after your first purchase i only had enough weth for one horse because i thought getting more than one would be near impossible
after druff said he was able to buy 5 i rushed an eth transfer and it literally hit my zed account with 10 seconds before my drop only to get SHUT OUT
https://twitter.com/zed_run/status/1403209606927585282
https://twitter.com/zed_run/status/1403209612006805511
Will someone tell these retards that you don't peace out for 4 days after your second major drop fails in that many tries?
I had a Wave 4 Drop (still do I guess) and the problems started happening in the Wave 1 and 2 drops. Which were 15 minutes each and had problems, so Wave 3 and 4, mine got canceled for now. Surprised me how its only Friday, and they said they'll communicate again Monday, which is days away. Hopeful it all works out and this was just the result of so much interest, maybe unexpectedly in this game now. It is a great idea and hopefully long=run this whole situation becomes inconsequential in the grand scheme of things of course. Zed looks so fun, and has so much potential I believe, but I just hope now they don't Top Shot it away also now, sad
(still have good hope for this, Zed looks fantastic in theory)
yeah guys stick with it, keep the dream alive, and if everything goes well, this will totally be another topshot.
Sonatine when I get my genesis horseyQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
yeah guys stick with it, keep the dream alive, and if everything goes well, this will totally be another topshot.
Worth probably 800 dollars plus on the secondary market. You'll get how we aren't overly interested in ones opinion here.
the zed discord is just full of tourists pissed off that they couldn’t make a quick 5x
I’d stay away, it’s toxic
Zed will be fine
Update, posted just now: https://community.zed.run/2021/06/14...l-news-update/
Cliffs:
- The "ECHO Drop", which was a failure last week, will be postponed indefinitely.
- The drop failed for the reason I guessed -- that the server and browsers had too many connections going, causing extreme load on both sides.
- They're giving away 6000 free Z8-Z10 horses in a July 1st "special drop". However, it is rigged to where empty stables will get 91.67% of the horses, and most of the remainder will go to those currently with 1-4 horses.
- Breeding isn't coming back for another month, at minimum.
Bad news, honestly. People are losing patience, and with breeding at least a month away, this is going to sap enthusiasm even further. Also, stables with 1 horse get fucked here, because they will only get a few % of the free horses awarded, so this hardly makes up for the fail of the last drop.
I can't see the community reacting well to this blog.
Here are the Aussies responsible for this brilliant invention, plus the bizarre string of failures and inconsistent communications:
https://community.zed.run/wp-content...HSFounders.jpg
Is it worth signing up now and keep an empty stable just for this free rigged draw?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
lol I just saw Druffs tweet to Zed, #Fail
MrTickle I'm pretty sure you had to be in this failed Echo Drop to have a chance at one of these 1Milly Z8-Z10 horses. But honestly while im following it im not totally understanding of how this whole thing will play out, post failed drop now. Had a Wave 4 in the failed Echo Drop spot, and do have an empty stable as well so im assuming i should get one of these genesis z8-z10 horses, but IDK to be honest. At this point and moving forward I just hope things go a little smoother now. Had a Wave 4 Echo drop spot, and do have Weth in my Zed account so from reading that news, im assuming ill be getting a Z8-Z10 genesis horse on July 1 now, hopefully after all of this things begin to smooth out moving forward now.
I got a horse in a drop a couple months ago and bought another in the secondary. For the brief period breeding was on a couple months ago, I started paying stud fees like crazy and got 4 more horses that way. The genesis horses that are unraced flip for good profits on Open sea. If you start racing a lot and they turn out to be a poor racer then the become pretty worthless on open sea. Breeding gave some hope that a poor racer could have a chance to have offspring that are good racers.
Top Shot peaked too quickly. While prices have come down quite a bit, the market is bouncing a little. I paid $2,000 for a Lebron moment 30 days ago and its now selling for $4,500.
So if you don't have a stable yet, or if you didn't "attempt to log into the marketplace" on the day of the last drop (whatever that means), don't bother. You won't be eligible unless you were trying to pahticipate in the last one.Quote:
The MILLION DOLLAR DROP is open to anyone who has a stable and attempted to participate in the ECHO DROP on Thursday, 10th June 2021. The pool of eligible users is based from our data of stables who attempted to log into the Marketplace on the day of the ECHO DROP to try and purchase a Genesis racehorse.
Even if you qualify, don't expect your free horse just yet. First off, if you don't have an empty stable, you probably won't get one.
Second, even if you do, there will likely be far more people in the pool than horses to give away.
I don't understand what they're doing. They should immediately set up a new drop, with a queue system. There should be a separate queue for each Z type, from 1-10, and people can pahticipate in all ten if they want, but can only buy 1 horse total, or maybe 2. Open this up only to people who failed to get horses on the ECHO drop.
It's outrageous that they think a giveaway will solve all their woes, while basically admitting they're shutting everything down regarding drops and breeding for the next month or more.
The last drop where they gave a link for your wave and basically said, we trust no one will share it but ultimately people shared links to all waves and got horses. I lost interest after that fail.
The top shot queue is the only way for them to drop with this much demand imo.
Yeah, total boneheaded move. I don't know how they thought that would work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by drake
Coachella's contracted ticket vendor made a similar mistake some years ago, but at least they were just a ticket vendor and those tickets weren't essential to the operation of the service itself.
They need to fire whomever is managing this entire process (including the communications), and replace them. I think they're doing too much in-house, and don't have any expert operations guys in the mix. If everyone in management at your company has similar strenghts and weaknesses, failure is imminent.
Top shot had lots of fails earlier in the year but they mostly worked them out.
I moved into other NFTs. My favorite right now is "Bored Ape Yacht Club". Paid 0.5 ETH a month ago and they trade for 1.5ETH+
Hopefully post Echo Drop fail now they realize there is serious interest growing in this now and so moving forward they make the right, and good adjustment's from here on out now.
Also thinking strategically, and im torn on this because IDK obviously but is an unraced Genesis Horse more +EV long-run, or down the road. If you never Race it just because its a Genesis Horse. Im not sure if there's any actual better Value in never racing the horse, with the intent to later on sell it with no record. If you race it and it sucks, and it is LOL algorithms so any horse can likely be great or terrible of course. But before it races, and loses some say is it worth more unraced.
Any input on this would be appreciated
Jordan Morgan coming hard at Zed Run.
https://twitter.com/jordanPmorgan/st...38608040300554
He's right though.
I think its all a guess at this point. There's been talk they will introduce other variables such as: fatigue, post position preference. My strategy has been to race. If you have a good racing male, you can profit of the racing and future breeding.Quote:
Originally Posted by garrett
https://knowyourhorses.com/ is a great site to see if you have a winning racer or just glue.
As far as the value of a horse it goes like this:
Proven racer —-> unraced —-> poor racer
Even poor racers will sell for a profit because poor racers can still breed good ones
I really got fucked in this whole special drop because in the last drop i first went after a horse for PLOP because he couldn’t get his account setup, and by the time I got his it was sold out and I couldn’t get one for myself
so now I have exactly one horse in my stable that isn’t even mind so I’ll likely get nothing from the “special” drop
They only look 80% as douchebaggy as I expected. Maybe because they're Australian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
yeah guys stick with it, keep the dream alive, and if everything goes well, this will totally be another topshot.
yeah guys stick with it, keep the dream alive, and if everything goes well, this will totally be another topshot.
if you’ve only ever bought packs from top shot you made money
if you’ve only bought horses from drops you’ve made money
it’s that easy
BUT, zed still has such demand that you can make money several different ways
I bought a z31 exclusive for $150, and sold it for $465
it had won 3 races in over 150 tries
I’m going to still buy packs from top shot to immediately liquidate as long as it’s seemingly plus ev
The difference with zed… I will still likely make huge returns but I honestly don’t even care because it’s so much fun
A bit hard to tell how old the dudes behind Zed are, but they look fairly young. Anyone know?
Maybe this isn't a perfect comparison, but I remember when Galfond started Run It Once Poker, and I noticed all of the top managers (and Galfond himself) were early 30s. There wasn't a single older adult in the room. And I felt that was a mistake. While Galfond proved he's still a monster PLO player via his "Galfond challenge", it somewhat distracted everyone from the fact that Run It Once Poker is still a huge failsite, and likely always will be. I just felt that inexperience -- both of the managerial and life variety -- was what they were badly lacking. Run It Once wasn't a bad product, but they failed at the basics, and people lost interest quickly.
I'm afraid Zed might be headed down the same road. There's no doubt they invented something cool, and there's no doubt that they got a lot of nice initial attention. However, they're still flubbing the basics, and some of these mistakes are just head-scratchers.
I'm not bearish on it just yet. If it were, I would sell my 7 horses on Opensea, pocket a nice profit for the Jew wallet, and thank Willie for the whole thing. However, it's getting hard to believe that this current crew is going to be able to manage this thing into long-term or medium-term successs. They really need a good operations manager on board, preferably one who is over 40 and good at customer communications.
The cool kids call that edging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
zed needs to provide some way to mine horses and sign some sort of licensing deal to get zed run machines deployed in bars around the world.
these 2 simple things would essentially launch them into the stratosphere and allow them to resolve every single one of their infrastructure issues.