Dan, Saturday's show will be filled with some good content and lots of new listeners
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Dan, Saturday's show will be filled with some good content and lots of new listeners
Did he respond that he will coach you one on one with absolutely nothing up front? He will only take half of what the gay porn studio pays you on the back end (Bad pun not intended but just happened there).Quote:
Originally Posted by AhoosierA
Love it Jeff Dime.
Already deleted though :(
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Originally Posted by OldHoster
JFC this guy is quick on the draw. To clarify I’m not talking Minute Man Big Loads 34. Although I am pretty sure “Minute Man” is a reference to let’s say finishing in a “timely fashion”. There is something I can’t square up when you look at the comments he keeps & the amount that is clearly fake but at the same time he is getting typically 2 to 1 likes to dislikes. I’m speculating that he has a lot of fake profiles. When he first really started in October & November you will see that he had likes and dislikes turned off. It’s just really peculiar.
Who was the guy a year or so ago was a sports bookie on 1hour show. It was lol.
You can also buy fake comments and likes from various shady sites out there. He might buy just enough to where the likes outnumber the dislikes.
Also be aware of the fact that there are actual idiots out there falling for this, as many of them are too stupid to google him and he deletes the negative comments so quickly that they don't realize how many people see this as absurd.
Oh, and he deletes the comments so quickly because he gets a notification on his phone when a new comment pops up.
omfg
Good reality check for me this lockdown has clearly affected my cynicism index. I know they have supposedly done things to curtail the ability to buy views/likes on YouTube and followers/engagement on twitter etc. Whatever Mitchell is doing is relatively small potatoes buying views/likes so I just missed that one. I’m blaming the lockdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
He doesn't want to be in politics cause theyre too corrupt-Quote of the Year
Wow. This just keeps getting better and better each day. Kyle... I mean Christopher, can’t stop lying to the point that he’s painting himself in so many corners. In the comments from the video on the strip someone asked him why he needed a borrowed bankroll if he was a millionaire. His response was “I wasn’t a millionaire at the time” which flys in the face of two things he’s said over and over. 1) Never gamble money you can’t afford to lose/ is for something else. 2) He is an entrepreneur with multiple streams of income.
I also have to add my 2 cents here on this. I’ve watched a lot of Christopher Mitchell’s videos and realized that you can bust his “strategies” pretty easily using math.
First he claims he uses Martingale. The thing about martingale is, no matter how deep you go (5, 8, 12 times) you only “win” 1 unit. If you go to his “rare” 6 martingales, you only win 1 betting unit.
Win#1- $3425 in 75 minutes at Hollywood Casino in Ohio. 5 tables.
He says he was making $100 bets. With $100 bets using his betting system that’s 34 wins. That’s a win every 2.2 minutes. That’s not counting joining a game, getting asked for a players card, waiting for people to cash in/ out, waiting for the pit to verify a buy in, checking the score boards when changing tables to be sure the shoe hasn’t changed, or the phone call to his wife. Doesn’t seem to work out.
Win#2 - Golden Nugget Las Vegas over $20K
He said it was a streak of 21 in a row. He said it was a table that was $15 - $2000 min/ max bet. Using Martingale, the most he could be betting per-hand ,while sticking to his “6 loses” technique, was $50 ($50 at 6 martingales is $1600, table limit was $2000). Well, $50 x 21 is $1050. Quite a far cry from $20K+. In fact, the only way he could have made $20K+ on a $2000 max bet table with 21 wins in a row was to bet $1000 a hand, which wouldn’t be possible with his own strategy, because if he lost 2 in a row, he couldn’t recoup his bet.
His own wins are not possible using his own system, which means he is either lying, or not using his own systems. Either way, winner or not, using his own systems under those exact same circumstances will not get you the same wins he is boasting.
Now this is from his official Baccarat Strategy PDF (that he actually charges people for).
“Baccarat Winning Strategy #3: Play An Entire Shoe
-This strategy was actually the first winning strategy that I ever created. It’s made me A LOT of money. This strategy is also how I won my BIGGEST payday ever of $24,525 at The Golden Nugget Casino in Las Vegas. Click here to watch the video: https://youtu.be/5yRD_1XFaDs
-Sit down at a table and play an entire shoe (70-80 hands). Here’s how this strategy works:
-I created this strategy specifically to capitalize on WINNING STREAKS for both Player and Banker. A winning streak is at least two wins in a row.
-You’re always going to bet on whoever just won the last hand.
-If you win your first bet, keep the entire profit and repeat the same bet again.
-If you win your second bet, keep half of the profit and parlay the other half. This will make your next bet bigger than the previous bet, but you’re using the Casino’s (Bank’s) money instead of your own bankroll. Keep doing this for every single win you get in a row. When you play a shoe that has a big streak (eight or more wins in a row) you can literally make hundreds or even thousands of dollars. This is exactly what I did on my personal record setting 21 Player streak.
Once you get one good streak, take your money and leave the Casino for the day.
-If you have a BIG bankroll and you lose your first bet, double the size of your next bet (Martingale) and bet on the opposite side (whoever just won).
-If you have a SMALL bankroll and you lose your first bet, keep the size of your next bet the same, but bet on the opposite side (whoever just won).
-If you have a BIG bankroll and you lose your second bet, double the size of your next bet (Martingale) and bet on the opposite side (whoever just won).
-If you have a SMALL bankroll and you lose your second bet, keep the size of your next bet the same, but bet on the opposite side (whoever just won).
-If you ever lose four hands in a row because it starts going CHOPPY, do not bet again until one side wins two hands in a row. Whatever side wins two hands in a row first is the side you immediately bet on the next hand. Repeat the above sequence (betting on whoever just won) for four more bets. If you haven’t got a win yet in these eight bets, stop playing that shoe immediately. If you do get a win, then start playing the strategy again from the beginning.
-This strategy is 100% focused on getting streaks for either side (Player and/or Banker) and parlaying half of your bet after every single win.
Pro- on shoes with big streaks you can make A LOT of money. Con- you must sit down and play every single hand of the shoe and possibly never get a streak.”
That strategy makes absolutely no sense. He says to play a whole shoe looking for streaks. But he only tells you how to bet on the first 3 hands if they win. No instructions on how to continue betting. But then back to my original point, his “strategy” for streaks is bet, win, press, win, parlay. But you also have to have the ability to bet Martingale 4 times if you lose (it’s right in the strategy) so on the Golden Nugget table that he claims was a $2000 max bet, his starting bet could only bet $250 in order to keep with his 4 Martingales rule. So, following his advice he would bet $250, win, press that and bet $500, win, parlay that, bet $750, and win. We are now 3 wins, 18 left, and only won $1500. Now obviously this is where things get muddy, because now you’re already outside the ability to Martingale more than once if you lose. So if you keep that parlay technique up, you’ll be at table max in a few hands and unable to use Martingale to recoup any losses. Not to mention, if that is what he did, he wasn’t following his own strategy, and therefore it isn’t the technique he lays out in his document. When you break down the technique even further to follow the guidelines, you’d actually not want a bet greater than $250 when not on a Martingale bet because you need to be able to Martingale 4 times according to his strategy. So that would mean an initial bet of $80 ($80, pressed to $160, parlay half, which is $80 again, making it $240, as close as you can get to that $250 on a $2000 limit table to allow 4 martingales). So doing the math from there, once you get to that $240, you’re capped. The first 3 bets in the 21 wins streak have only won $480. Now every bet after that, 18 to get to 21, is capped at $240. 18 x $240 = $4320, for a total of $4800. That is the max he could have won following the guidelines of his own strategy. Now, could he have started at $250 or higher? Absolutely. But again, that would mean he wasn’t following his own strategy that he himself claims he used to win $24000 in 21 hands. That to me makes it an even scummier scam. Selling a system as your way of winning is bad enough, but selling it claiming you used it to win a dollar amount not possible if you mathematically break down the system is worse.
Anyway, that’s just my 2 cents on him and all of his scamming YouTube vids.
There's also the problem his claim of 21 player bets hitting in a row in baccarat.
Since the ties don't matter (you get your money refunded), let's throw those out, and look at the odds of hitting player 21 consecutive times without a loss.
The player wins 44.62% of the time, and the banker wins 45.85% of the time. Ties come the other 9.53% of the time. This means that when there's not a tie, the player wins 49.32% of those, while the banker wins 50.68%.
So basically we are looking at what the odds are of 21 consecutive of those 49.32% shots hitting without a loss. That would be approximately 1-in-2.8 million.
Even if you want to say that player bets hit a whole lot, and that we're only looking for 20 consecutive decisions following which are also player bets, the odds of that happening is still 1-in-1.38 million.
So either Christopher Mitchell saw a 1-in-1.38-million event while betting on player, or he's lying.
I'll let you guys guess which was most likely.
Kevin noticed in that video the same thing I noticed.
Despite being a notorious cash-flasher, Christopher flashed nothing after that supposed 25k win. We didn't see cash, big chips, little chips... absolutely nothing besides a laughable hand-written baccarat record card.
Clearly he would have shown his winnings for the camera if he could have, as it would have been a huge marketing win. In fact, I'm surprised he didn't bring his (likely fake) cash to the casino to do just that.
My guess is that he came up with this idea while there, and didn't have the fake cash on him. He didn't want to run back home to get it, so he hastily made this video without the cash (or chips) to flaunt, hoping nobody would notice. It's even possible that he was holding a baccarat card up of an actual event which took place there at some point recently, and he heard about it while there, and just made his own copy of it.
Dan, you’re absolutely right. I’ve had good nights at the casino and taken pictures of handfuls of purples and blacks to brag about. A handful of chips, or like you said, a stack of cash after a win like that would definitely be on his list of showing off. I’ve been following Kevin/ Dustin since he started after Morganstern a couple years ago, and while a bit unsure about Christopher’s cash being fake at first (I mean, I’ve had over $10K on hand before and I’m not rich by any means) I’m wondering if it’s a combination of play money, printed at home on a decent computer money, and maybe at most $1000 in real cash.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
On bacc I've seen 17, 19 and 21 run streaks before.
On 00 roulette i watched 23 reds in a row.
Just sayin. Not that this tool is telling the truth.
Druff, it looks like he did in fact hit 21 players in a row. If you look at the snapshot in post #134, you can see the 21 straight player wins on the computer monitor to the right of his head. (The blue dots that form the elongated "L" shape on the screen.) Of course, it's also possible that he just found a dead table with that result sitting there from whenever the table was last open and he decided he would use that monitor as a prop to shoot his video, which I haven't bothered to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
This doesn't change J-Gilbs' point that the profit amount he claims is impossible at those table limits using his "system."
What a slimeball...
For Jeff and Dustin, I think what's needed is a sustained, coordinated attack from multiple sources on his comments section. Keep them coming so quickly that he can't keep up with the deletions. Even 24 hours of that greatly increases the chances that his sucker followers will be exposed to them at some point. You guys are doing great work and I'm really looking forward to radio this weekend.
Nice breakdown Gibbs. When I think that seemingly dozens of people paid $500-$750 for this horrible, cookie-cutter, copy/paste just absolute nonsense it just amazes me. Literally pick any piece of paper out of the garbage & it has more worth than this crap. A rack of red chips (yellow in LA) or more for this? It should be a class A Felony. When I think of the kind of person who has the balls to accept that kind of money for this it really puts things in perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Gilbs
Also, anyone want to post a line on this guy being DD before the end of 2021? (most likely by suicide as the heat continues to get turned up on his scam and the gay porn continues to get exposed.) People with Narcissistic Personality Disorder do not fare well in prison...
I would make the "yes" a small favorite.
That’s a good eye buccos but I would agree with your second hypothesis that he found a screen showing the streak & capitalized on it. The scorecard is way too neat and he would of flashed chips & cash 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by go_buccosDruff, it looks like he did in fact hit 21 players in a row. If you look at the snapshot in post #134, you can see the 21 straight player wins on the computer monitor to the right of his head. (The blue dots that form the elongated "L" shape on the screen.) Of course, it's also possible that he just found a dead table with that result sitting there from whenever the table was last open and he decided he would use that monitor as a prop to shoot his video, which I haven't bothered to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
This doesn't change J-Gilbs' point that the profit amount he claims is impossible at those table limits using his "system."
What a slimeball...
For Jeff and Dustin, I think what's needed is a sustained, coordinated attack from multiple sources on his comments section. Keep them coming so quickly that he can't keep up with the deletions. Even 24 hours of that greatly increases the chances that his sucker followers will be exposed to them at some point. You guys are doing great work and I'm really looking forward to radio this weekend.
I don’t mind doing comments & at least having him have to go through the motions. The problem is there is 7.8 billion people on this earth so there’s plenty of marks for him no matter what we say. We can have some deterrent effect but as long as he is on YouTube he will be able to reach marks. YouTube gives him legitimacy in those people’s eyes. The naive will think... well YouTube wouldn’t let a scammer operate for this long.
That’s why in my opinion the best thing by far that can happen is his channel is taken down. That will give current marks a reason to question what the hell they are doing with this guy. He will probably say he did it voluntary or some nonsense but it won’t pass the smell test. It would be much tougher to reach people without the channel.
I know it’s entertaining but it needs to go. I think we will really ramp up that effort especially as some Casinos in Vegas start opening.
Dan, I have alot of people wanting info about what time I'll be on talking to you on your podcast..... can you email me at rldrooster70@gmail.com how you want to go about me being on so I can make a detailed video advertising it.....
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Originally Posted by go_buccosDruff, it looks like he did in fact hit 21 players in a row. If you look at the snapshot in post #134, you can see the 21 straight player wins on the computer monitor to the right of his head. (The blue dots that form the elongated "L" shape on the screen.) Of course, it's also possible that he just found a dead table with that result sitting there from whenever the table was last open and he decided he would use that monitor as a prop to shoot his video, which I haven't bothered to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
This doesn't change J-Gilbs' point that the profit amount he claims is impossible at those table limits using his "system."
What a slimeball...
For Jeff and Dustin, I think what's needed is a sustained, coordinated attack from multiple sources on his comments section. Keep them coming so quickly that he can't keep up with the deletions. Even 24 hours of that greatly increases the chances that his sucker followers will be exposed to them at some point. You guys are doing great work and I'm really looking forward to radio this weekend.
You could also PM the suckers in the comments with a message notifying them how this is a scam.
Psychopaths don't kill themselves. I think he has better chance of going to prison for bank robbery, fraud, or tax evasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by go_buccos
How about we just talk via text? Text me at 775-372-8355Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustin Mc
Christopher, if you're reading this, you can also text me. You are welcome to come on and defend yourself -- either with or without Kevin on the line, your choice.
He's definitely reading this and That fool doesn't dare come on to confront me. He also said today he'd knock a hater out if they showed up at his door. Just for that dare, he may get his chance and have it documented. His wife would have to change chris's diaper that day tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffHow about we just talk via text? Text me at 775-372-8355Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustin Mc
Christopher, if you're reading this, you can also text me. You are welcome to come on and defend yourself -- either with or without Kevin on the line, your choice.
The main thing is we just keep combating his BS with the truth. If he wants to make threats let him talk & then report him once again to YouTube and be descriptive when you do. I am sure things can change but last I read the Governor wants to wait until Phase 3 or 4 (Countrywide) to start opening casinos. Things can change and please correct me if I’m wrong. This means to me we’re looking at the earliest June 15th maybe even July 1st.
I have an underlying condition but my advice would be even if you are young & healthy wait & see how that opening goes. I wouldn’t go out to Vegas when it first opens. Their hospitals are very poor from my own personal experience getting very sick a few years back. The emergency rooms are jammed up with homeless, overdoses & tourists who partied way too hard(not now of course). I know we are all frustrated. I just had another person I knew pass away. I’m in New York so it’s been bad here. I would advise giving it a month at least after reopening if you’re planning on going out there. Hopefully by then there will be at least some data in which to make an informed decision.
So a small silver lining is that many scammers ability to fleece marks is way down. It’s 100X easier to get people’s money once they are actually in your presence. The truth is 100% on our side so I am just going to keep plowing forward. Christopher doesn’t seem to currently have people sending him money for strategies & personal coaching since he came up with his “Brilliant” freeroll approach. I’m guessing people have paid him the $500 or $750 using the cash app, PayPal, Venmo etc in the past. I am sure they don’t do chargebacks like a credit or debit card would if you called them and said you got scammed by the merchant. Any thoughts on those who got scammed notifying the apps they sent the money on they were scammed? I realize they will probably get nothing back but it can’t hurt right? At least put a stain on his record with whatever app they used. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Go watch today's video with the chat on, it's hilarious. Too bad I couldn't have been there live to be part of it.
Copy and paste this URL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBymsFk9b-g
He must have banned the chatters who were calling him out, because they vanished from the chat after the first 5-10 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBymsFk9b-g
Here's some funny timestamps to go to:
31:58 -- He thinks COVID-19 is a man-made conspiracy "just like 9/11" .... and he's not joking
1:01:18 -- Addressing the people who say he's a scammer
1:06:30 -- Saying he will knock people out if they show up and visit.... LOL!!
I let it go after the live feed from 4/17/2020 but around the 12:20 mark on this one he originally went off camera & went down to snort something. I didn’t post it because you can see he makes an edit here & a few times in the video. He comes back all of a sudden with a bad case of the sniffles. He also says at 13:30 that celebrities are being paid to say they have Coronavirus among of course a plethora of nonsense. All of a sudden he has the sniffles as well during yesterday’s live feed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I don’t really care nor am I surprised that he needs to get high to do these. He’s such a fucking numbskull it’s jut too much sometimes. My Father survived 9/11 but his company lost 300. He worked in the WTC & he was never the same after that. I know people & have friends whose lost family members to Coronavirus. Bill Gates didn’t create the virus to make money on the vaccine. God that’s is just so insane I can’t even respond to it. JFC he already has promised most of his fortune to charity FFS.
Whatever he’s sniffing he should stop if only to salvage the minuscule amount of brain cells he has left. From minuscule to non-existent this time Christopher...not minuscule to muscular anymore. I guess you sniff that stuff so you don’t smell your own horseshit. We all can just watching your videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TxbfHrnSp8
Just posted on his livestream video from yesterday.
Today’s let me play the violin for everyone. Christopher, at 6:45 “I’ve never done drugs in my entire life” followed by a huge snort. Great timing there Chris. He’s clearly reading this thread and saw my post from yesterday. You’re not the only one who has had trauma in your life if any part of this is actually true. That doesn’t give you an excuse to rip people off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m39rgDJPCcA
I snort all the time, just like he did at 6:45. I don't do it from cocaine though, I do it from allergies lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
That video is a big joke! I wish that I would have seen him, I went to the Costco up there yesterday and drove right by Red Rock. I wonder if he would have jumped if I hit the train horns on my Tahoe.
I will be listening live tonight as I want to hear what Kevin has to say about this dirt bag.
I know snorting is not in of itself evidence of drug use. On the live feed from April 17th I saw him do it live. It was unmistakable he went down and snorted something up then all of a sudden he had the sniffles. It was so blatant that when I went to make a post about it he already had edited that out of the video. So I made the decision to just let it go and not post about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldHosterI snort all the time, just like he did at 6:45. I don't do it from cocaine though, I do it from allergies lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
That video is a big joke! I wish that I would have seen him, I went to the Costco up there yesterday and drove right by Red Rock. I wonder if he would have jumped if I hit the train horns on my Tahoe.
I will be listening live tonight as I want to hear what Kevin has to say about this dirt bag.
Now when he does a live feed yesterday and he’s snorting & sniffling all the way through I just had to mention it. This is a guy who claims to have the strongest immune system in the world. So it’s my word that I saw it. I have no further proof so people can watch and make their own judgement.
In the scheme of things does it matter that he does drugs? Not really. It’s just more lies & hypocrisy to throw in this shit sandwich. I am basically a civil libertarian and believe people should be free to do what they want as long as their not hurting or infringing on the rights of others. This just goes to show that this guy is a fraud in basically every way humanly possible.
Just a note...it has been a full week since Christopher Mitchell has flashed cash in any of his videos. The last time he did was in his ridiculous trip to the ATM from 4/26. He has made 4 videos in that time, 2 inside & 2 outside. Of course even he knows how dumb it would look to flash cash out in public but it’s still a very noticeable change and it will be interesting if he remains keeping the cash out of his vids going forward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkYmiclciqQ
Interview with Kevin Davis at 0:18:53 mark, lasts for about 2 hours:
https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...be-Fraud-Alert
This interview may have been 2 hours long but when you listen it will feel much shorter. It covered so much ground and was extremely enlightening. Druff I think steered the ship extremely well. A lot of answers about how Kevin’s journey started and his motivations come to light. Appreciate you Kevin for peeling back the curtain for us and being very candid about what you have been through. It really is a fascinating 2 hours and thanks to both of you for making it happen. Traderusky and Vintage1 both also made great contributions. I really recommend everyone who sees this thread to take a listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
SPOILER ALERT
For me personally I was hoping that if we kind of sent the cavalry to report him on YouTube maybe we can at least have some closure that he can’t use that platform anymore. With this lockdown a big part of me was hoping that we could at least get this clown’s videos taken down and I could start my Christopher Mitchell YouTube rabbit hole detox program. Kevin seemed to want this to end sooner rather than later as well.
However, when you hear stories about Morgenstern threatening to kill people on YouTube and still having the video stay up I am no longer so optimistic given what I learned about YouTube’s track record. I’m thinking a forced 3 day Christopher Mitchell detox. Unplugging for a few days might be necessary as too much Mitchell may have some adverse effects.
Jeff Dime,
I also agree there is too much CM out there right now, but also with as much as he has been flamed and the amount of information out there about him. I think that anyone that was to pay for his services or do the 1/2 of a win should realize how dumb they are. If they just can’t put it together, it may be their own fault for being “Brain dead below restarted like Kevin put it last night.”
Also Druff had asked Kevin about the forum last night. I tried to text, it isn’t a forum like a lot of people think it is a discord chat forum. I am a member there, and we help everyone out with casino conditions and advantage plays that we do. Honestly since Black Friday I have concentrated on AP more when I have time and it is far more profitable than poker is right now.
Cheers.