You guys are all fucked. Your country is so divided that you're rooting for him to be on the other "team" so you can chalk it up as a win.
Glad I live in the land of the mighty beaver and goose.
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You guys are all fucked. Your country is so divided that you're rooting for him to be on the other "team" so you can chalk it up as a win.
Glad I live in the land of the mighty beaver and goose.
1. Set a deadline for every single one to be turned in.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
There are probably close to 10 million ARs in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacosta24
How would you suggest getting rid of them?
2. Offer cash for them until the deadline.
3. After the deadline, possession will mean large fines and/or jail time.
Easy game.
Not even closeQuote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
You literally couldnt be more naive on thisQuote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger1. Set a deadline for every single one to be turned in.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
2. Offer cash for them until the deadline.
3. After the deadline, possession will mean large fines and/or jail time.
Easy game.
Other than there is a 0% chance of that ever happening, it's a great idea. While your at it go into a Mercedes dealership with Monopoly money and try to buy a car.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger1. Set a deadline for every single one to be turned in.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
2. Offer cash for them until the deadline.
3. After the deadline, possession will mean large fines and/or jail time.
Easy game.
And when 85-90% of AR owners don't turn in their guns or pay the fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger1. Set a deadline for every single one to be turned in.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
2. Offer cash for them until the deadline.
3. After the deadline, possession will mean large fines and/or jail time.
Easy game.
FEMA camps for reeducation and gender transitioning therapy.Quote:
Originally Posted by devideeAnd when 85-90% of AR owners don't turn in their guns or pay the fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
I assume the F stands for fedora.
Your time is coming. Give it a couple decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Icon
I actually watch the Dr. Pierce videos that FPS posts, and although much of it is hateful garbage, he has some insights that we would be facing these kinds of issues down the road once we decided that the "American monoculture" is oppressive and racist and it needs to be burned down, and we should all be celebrating our differences instead. I think it is spot on that one of our problems is that all the focus is on how we are different, and we should be celebrating our differences, and we have lost our sense of community.
Of course it sounds good on paper that we can all be different, speak different languages, celebrate different religions, etc. and all live in peace and harmony, like a Star Trek episode. But the reality is that is not how we have evolved to behave at the individual or societal level, and I am extremely pessimistic it would ever work out.
Anyways, back to the point of Canada. Canada seems to be on a similar trajectory as the US, albeit a generation or two behind, as far as the people representing the dominant monoculture (Caucasian Christians of mainly English heritage) being demographically phased out. If Canada simultaneously pushes the PC narrative that this monoculture is oppressive and racists and needs to be destroyed, I expect the same fissions and divides to pop up in Canada as here.
Apologies in advance as it may set off some members of our forum, but here it goes.
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpre...y=65&strip=all
Interestingly, every other (non-Western) society on Earth realizes the importance of having a strong monoculture to provide a sense of community, that is why no non-Western society really pushes the diversity narrative.
I mean, like I said, Christmas is dead at my son's grade school. Completely all mentions of it wiped out. No trees, no red, no green, nothing.
Could you imagine something like this happening in Japan or the Middle East or India or even Africa, where they just decided institutionally to wage war on the their own culture? Of course not, because they realize it would be cultural suicide.
The US leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz is a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills.
Goes double for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Icon
The police go in to confiscate the gun and possibly arrest the (former) owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by devideeAnd when 85-90% of AR owners don't turn in their guns or pay the fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Because I don't want a Mercedes.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgullOther than there is a 0% chance of that ever happening, it's a great idea. While your at it go into a Mercedes dealership with Monopoly money and try to buy a car.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Good thing the FBI didn't investigate him.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I mean, you know, what could they do!
10 million guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerThe police go in to confiscate the gun and possibly arrest the (former) owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
You think the police have the resources to do this? What happens when the gun owners don't simply hand them over?
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Originally Posted by devideeGood thing the FBI didn't investigate him.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I mean, you know, what could they do!
I dont get this joke but I'm pretty sure you're trying too hard.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger1. Set a deadline for every single one to be turned in.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
2. Offer cash for them until the deadline.
3. After the deadline, possession will mean large fines and/or jail time.
Easy game.
You do realize the the AR is basically like every other semi automatic rifle right? In fact, since it was all close ranage, he could have used as semi automatic pistol and caused just as much damage. Banning the AR wouldnt have stopped this as there are plenty of other weapons he could have used that would have been just as effective.
Welp, if anyone would know...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by devidee
I dont get this joke but I'm pretty sure you're trying too hard.
Honestly every time I hear AR in one of these shootings I'm just like, that motherfucker lacks initiative.
ARs are pure garbage. They were trash in Vietnam and they are still trash now.
This is true, however we have the advantage of being able to see how it is fucking up the country next door. Canadians by nature are a bit more reserved and thoughtful versus arrogant and tribal. I can't see us going full on tribal politics like it is in the States. Various candidates have tried and to date none have been successful. Doug Ford is running for the Ontario Conservatives and he is the closest we have of the tear it all down, only I can fix it style comedian.Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
Trudeau slipped into power after our conservative government had power too long. Always good to switch it up after a few terms. He is going full hog on identity politics, equality of outcome bullshit, along with white privilege, native right tears, etc. The backlash is already starting. Our Universities are out of control just like your colleges. Guys like Jordan Peterson are having an amazing impact on voicing the displeasure of the majority. I think we will nip in the bud.
We have the additional advantage that the older white boomer racists are dying off fast enough and our youth are very multicultural.
We are a kinder, gentler nation and most here are proudly Canadian and more importantly non-American so when we see Americans acting like idiots (any vacation property world wide, we are proud not to be associated)
We won't be following along.
That would probably triple the amount of gun violence in their country, a lot of it with police involved. I thought you were against police shooting people?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerThe police go in to confiscate the gun and possibly arrest the (former) owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
All the LULZ...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
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Originally Posted by DealThis is true, however we have the advantage of being able to see how it is fucking up the country next door. Canadians by nature are a bit more reserved and thoughtful versus arrogant and tribal. I can't see us going full on tribal politics like it is in the States. Various candidates have tried and to date none have been successful. Doug Ford is running for the Ontario Conservatives and he is the closest we have of the tear it all down, only I can fix it style comedian.Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
Trudeau slipped into power after our conservative government had power too long. Always good to switch it up after a few terms. He is going full hog on identity politics, equality of outcome bullshit, along with white privilege, native right tears, etc. The backlash is already starting. Our Universities are out of control just like your colleges. Guys like Jordan Peterson are having an amazing impact on voicing the displeasure of the majority. I think we will nip in the bud.
We have the additional advantage that the older white boomer racists are dying off fast enough and our youth are very multicultural.
We are a kinder, gentler nation and most here are proudly Canadian and more importantly non-American so when we see Americans acting like idiots (any vacation property world wide, we are proud not to be associated)
We won't be following along.
You're also fundamentally better educated, have a strong and defined national identity, and have exactly zero effective incursions into your political infrastructure from organized ultra-conservative Christian power blocks.
Didn’t the White House take white supremacist groups off terror watch groups?
Can you remember when objective reality mattered to you, or is that a symptom of your psychotic break?Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
That's not the shooter, you fucking idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
Bro, I read every issue of Newsweek.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Except in Vietnam they were ASSAULT RIFLES.
The AR we have in the states is not a assault rifle and not much different than the zillions of other semi auto rifles out , or at close range, not much different in destructive power as semi auto hand guns.
not exactly a response to your question but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Suicide King
politicizing the terrorist designation is not in anyones best interests, unless you want to see BLM and Antifa on that list as well because thats exactly how Sessions will roll if hes forced to blur the lines for his Nazi pals.
just being a white supremacist and shooting guns in the woods isnt terrorism.
it should get you on an FBI list or three but terrorism it is not.
In fairness, ultra-conservative Christianity didn't really incur into the political infrastructure, it kind of has always been here. I mean, the first pilgrims were basically Christian fundamentalists who left England because their fringe ideas weren't being tolerated there. Our biggest homegrown religion is Mormonism.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by Deal
You're also fundamentally better educated, have a strong and defined national identity, and have exactly zero effective incursions into your political infrastructure from organized ultra-conservative Christian power blocks.
I am not even saying none of the criticisms of the US and the right wing Christian base are invalid. I am just saying, regardless once it became so cool to hate on America and so much effort has been put into destroying our monoculture, then it really isn't surprising things have gotten so divisive. There is literally nothing to bring us together anymore. It is all about how we are all different and should celebrate our differences, and whatever made up the monoculture before was evil and racist. Even if another 9-11 happened here, I feel like half the people in this country would be secretly cheering and trying to spin it to blame the other side.
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Originally Posted by verminaardIn fairness, ultra-conservative Christianity didn't really incur into the political infrastructure, it kind of has always been here. I mean, the first pilgrims were basically Christian fundamentalists who left England because their fringe ideas weren't being tolerated there. Our biggest homegrown religion is Mormonism.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I am not even saying none of the criticisms of the US and the right wing Christian base are invalid. I am just saying, regardless once it became so cool to hate on America and so much effort has been put into destroying our monoculture, then it really isn't surprising things have gotten so divisive. There is literally nothing to bring us together anymore. It is all about how we are all different and should celebrate our differences, and whatever made up the monoculture before was evil and racist. Even if another 9-11 happened here, I feel like half the people in this country would be secretly cheering and trying to spin it to blame the other side.
I mean I wasnt there so I cant say, but at some point 'family values' became 'fuck yeah the apocolypse will solve all of you heathens so lets get this show on the road', and that strain of Christianity is what has been most effective in politicizing its agenda, to the point where it's not politically viable for a Christian to be left of Michele Bachmann.
I think groups like the SPLC and ADL are given way too much influence to control the dialogue and being WAY too liberal with their accusations of alt-right and white supremacy, to no ones benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatinenot exactly a response to your question but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Suicide King
politicizing the terrorist designation is not in anyones best interests, unless you want to see BLM and Antifa on that list as well because thats exactly how Sessions will roll if hes forced to blur the lines for his Nazi pals.
just being a white supremacist and shooting guns in the woods isnt terrorism.
it should get you on an FBI list or three but terrorism it is not.
Listen I got no toe
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Originally Posted by igotnotoe
Thoughts and prayers for this mans missing toe.
It would be a long slow process. No time like the present to get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee10 million guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
You think the police have the resources to do this? What happens when the gun owners don't simply hand them over?