Did you see where the bullet hit her? Maybe the first shot grazed her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Did you see where the bullet hit her? Maybe the first shot grazed her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
You stopped liking her based on my post?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrenadaRogerthis doesn't bring me peace of mind...sir, i see any humor in those words and i don't like your choosing to say that...and i liked Selena tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit
to me, this terrible incident shows how vulnerable we all can be when trying to do our jobs, daily errands or other mundane things in life...and we need to be aware/alert to possible dangers
call me paranoid, but i live in Los Angeles and at times i have to travel into rough areas on my job...also, i have a violent, crazy neighbor so every walk to my vehicle is a possible showdown...i am not going let myself be a victim
And come on now. I obviously meant your peace of mind that the world is not a joke and a show. I think death hurts me more than my peers. I didnt even consider you taking it that way.
I don't understand what this has to do with Selena Gomez?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's ClitYou stopped liking her based on my post?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger
And come on now. I obviously meant your peace of mind that the world is not a joke and a show. I think death hurts me more than my peers. I didnt even consider you taking it that way.
Are you asking me or him? I think I've been clear.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Bullets in bodies are extremely unpredictable, but when you’re writing, a basic rule of thumb is “no, gunshot wounds are not immediately fatal.” In fact, if you discount suicides, only about 30% of all (intentional) shots are even fatal.
The most likely outcome from getting shot during a fight is that the person will keep fighting. Even if a wound is eventually fatal, a person will still be conscious and operational unless they’ve been hit in an artery or vital organ, so they can still fire their own gun at you while bleeding out. Getting shot sometimes feels a lot like getting punched (if there’s only soft tissue damage), and some people can run around for several minutes or even hours without realizing they have been shot. Even shots to the torso are survivable. You can run around for a surprisingly long time with a hole in your lung or shrapnel in your liver. (You’ll pay for it later, but since we’re talking about ‘immediately after being shot’…)
The two biggest concerns with gunshot wounds are bleeding and shock. Shock can be fatal even with minor wounds.
The main thing to remember when writing gunshot wounds is that bullets in bodies are unpredictable. Someone can live through being shot 20 times and then die from being shot once in the leg. You can (almost) do anything. If you want to strive for realism, it’s all going to be dependent on the characters’ reactions to events. If a character is familiar with guns and shooting, they should expect a body to keep moving after being shot, and if they’re trying to stop they person they should shoot multiple times. “On shot, one kill” is a brag, not a methodology. If a character is unfamiliar with gunshot wounds, they might (like you) be surprised to find you can’t actually make someone fall over with one shot. And, of course, if you’re going to go the route of “Whitley said I could kill someone by shooting them in the shin” or some other possible-but-unlikely scenario, every character involve should be boggled so that the audience knows this is an unusual thing.
But, yeah, like 90% of the time, someone who gets shot is not going to die instantly.
thanx for explaining, we r kewl now, sorry...another sorry, i used past tense re: Selena, i like her stillQuote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's ClitYou stopped liking her based on my post?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger
And come on now. I obviously meant your peace of mind that the world is not a joke and a show. I think death hurts me more than my peers. I didnt even consider you taking it that way.
Seeing a Kenyan win gold in the javelin final is what we really should be talking about here.
To those in this thread wondering, it is a common misconception that you immediately feel being shot. Growing up next to Texas I have been around and shot many guns in my life.
I have witnessed two people (morons) shoot themselves and here is how they both reacted. The first guy shot himself in the hand as he was trying to clean his gun while it was loaded. He shot himself right through the palm and instantly knew something was wrong and kind of screamed but he was still moving full speed and said he couldn't feel the pain right away even though he could see the wound.
The second guy thought his handgun was empty but there was one bullet in the chamber. He was aiming the gun down towards his feet when it went off. He asked everyone if they were ok and checking himself (even walking around) for a good 10-20 seconds before realizing he had shot himself directly through the middle of his right foot.
Both eventually ended up fine with actually minor scarring. It is a movie thing to think people immediately collapse when shot or instantly die. That's not to say this isn't possible but it is the vast minority of people that this happens to because the adrenaline in the body is enough to overcome even serious wounds for a short amount of time.
For those saying the video looks fake I would recommend not having a set criteria for what a gun attack should look like because there are an infinite number of unique scenarios.
-Stamos
Im not shocked,black people are the best athletes in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
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Originally Posted by John Stamos
Agreed the clip isn't fake. Just visiting the funeral services of the two reporters (assuming open caskets) should put to rest any conspiracy theories, unless the conspiracy expands to all the funeral visitors playing along as well?
Holy fuck Druff. She didn't get shot with a fucking bazooka or a air to ground missile. It looked like a small caliber handgun.
Of course she'll most likely be able to run a short distance unless she was hit in the heart or severed the spinal cord which obviously never happened. You're acting like she did a full 6 city block sprint to the fucking hospital or something.
just watched the videos.
is the general consensus that he held the gun aimed at her because he wanted her to turn and look at him before he started shooting?
i would have thought the lady being interviewed would have seen him standing there with a gun from her peripheral vision.
i guess newsreaders have trained themselves to stare straight ahead and block out all sidevision. even if she did sense someone was there she prob thought it was going to be another "fuck her right in the pussy" live tv invasion.
also "tight country"
yea bro, why don't you sit down, have a drink and tell us more about how tight it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom
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Originally Posted by lewfatheryea bro, why don't you sit down, have a drink and tell us more about how tight it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom
i know, i know, yous cant fix the problem because you have an exclusive cultureQuote:
SINCE 2013 there have been 864 mass shootings in the US, where four or more people have been shot in the one event.
That means in the 139 weeks since the start of 2013, there has been an average of 6.2 mass shootings per week. Almost one a day.
Those shootings have left 1125 people dead and 3097 wounded. And, if we don’t restrict those numbers to just mass shootings, there have been a total of 32,000 firearm deaths in just two and a half years.
:lol2
If you can get your people to stop with the, thanks"mate", "good on ya mate", "I fucked a Roo mate" etc, then maybe those gun toting Yanks will change
Bryant's rampage was the third deadliest shooting by a lone gunman in history, the first being the 2011 Norway attacks committed by Anders Behring Breivik, followed by the 1982 massacre by Woo Bum-kon in South Korea.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomQuote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
yea bro, why don't you sit down, have a drink and tell us more about how tight it is.
i know, i know, yous cant fix the problem because you have an exclusive cultureQuote:
SINCE 2013 there have been 864 mass shootings in the US, where four or more people have been shot in the one event.
That means in the 139 weeks since the start of 2013, there has been an average of 6.2 mass shootings per week. Almost one a day.
Those shootings have left 1125 people dead and 3097 wounded. And, if we don’t restrict those numbers to just mass shootings, there have been a total of 32,000 firearm deaths in just two and a half years.
:lol2
viddy well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN-1Mup0UI0
not sure what point you are trying to prove. the Bryant rampage in 1996 was the single incident that triggered massive gun reform in Australia, which is what im saying yous needQuote:
Originally Posted by lewfatherBryant's rampage was the third deadliest shooting by a lone gunman in history, the first being the 2011 Norway attacks committed by Anders Behring Breivik, followed by the 1982 massacre by Woo Bum-kon in South Korea.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom
i know, i know, yous cant fix the problem because you have an exclusive cultureQuote:
SINCE 2013 there have been 864 mass shootings in the US, where four or more people have been shot in the one event.
That means in the 139 weeks since the start of 2013, there has been an average of 6.2 mass shootings per week. Almost one a day.
Those shootings have left 1125 people dead and 3097 wounded. And, if we don’t restrict those numbers to just mass shootings, there have been a total of 32,000 firearm deaths in just two and a half years.
:lol2
viddy well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN-1Mup0UI0
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Originally Posted by Lord of the FraudQuote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit
Poor Reg got dogs abuse for posts like this. Like genuine rage in some cases.
Personally I enjoy them..
Not on board with every shock like incident being a false flag.. but something is definitely amiss in some of the stuff I've read up on.
Black homosexual shoots 2 white hetero's - Democrats blame the gun.
This graph says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomnot sure what point you are trying to prove. the Bryant rampage in 1996 was the single incident that triggered massive gun reform in Australia, which is what im saying yous need
All anti 2nd Amendment Americans should move to Australia.
Problem solved.
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Originally Posted by KryptThe MARKET must have really done a number on your hick ass; HIGH FINANCE can only be properly understood and navigated by PERSIANS, JEWS, and some gooks. It's certainly not a safe place for wonderbread dumb money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
Pooh needs Chaps. While Pooh is taking a bath the last while, Chaps made (FAKE MONEY, PAPER ACCT) 60k on a 100k margin account shorting that bitch of a /ESU5 (10 cars/trade). Watch my stock thread tomorrow for my Friday-Monday weekend gapper watchlist. My last pick popped 300-400% on Monday.
Gun control in the US will lower the number of spree killings, but crime of other types will rise, as existing career criminals (who won't turn in their guns) will be emboldened to attack, knowing the average citizen & small business will not have guns to defend themselves.
This also wasn't a spree killing. It was a targeted murder of 2 people. If this guy couldn't have obtained a gun, he could have killed at least one of the victims, perhaps both, with a different weapon.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If the guns go away, mass killings will be done with explosives. Same idiots, different methodology.
Im actually quite surprised there havent been more stories about explosives strapped to drones and flown into buildings, type of stuff by now.
It takes a lot more work to blow someone up than to shoot him/her. I own a gun, but imo all guns should be banned, and if caught with a gun the penalty should be super harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If the guns go away, mass killings will be done with explosives. Same idiots, different methodology.
A can of gas and .. . fuck it, i'm not gonna share, just saying that it's easier to do stuff with stuff lying around the garage than it is to get and use a gun. guns are for killing people one at a time, they are not weapons of mass destruction.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dickIt takes a lot more work to blow someone up than to shoot him/her. I own a gun, but imo all guns should be banned, and if caught with a gun the penalty should be super harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Have they reported a drill for tv reporters getting shot going on at or near the same time as this yet?
I spent an hour or two on this yesterday and that was more than enough to see this for what it was.
If these poor folks actually died and the shooting was for real one can bet they thought they were taking part in a drill.
9/11- NORAD testing preparedness for hijacked planes crashing into buildings. On 9/12 a bio warfare exercise was planned for NYC and it's headquarters was building 7. (Which is why so many FEMA people were on the scene instantly.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...ember_11,_2001
Madrid bombings 2004- drill ended the day before actual bombings.
http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2004/p04-022e.htm
London train bombings in 2005- Exercise the day before to test preparedness for bombs going off in underground trains.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...incidence.html
Aurora Colorado Theater Shooting- On the morning of the shooting a drill was going on in nearby Parker Colorado at Rocky Mountain Vista College to test a theater shooting. In an interview with the college newspaper the Dean of the school said the coincidence was astonishing. He went on and on about it and resigned soon after.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21...cise-at-parker
Sandy Hook- FEMA conducting an active school shooter drill in Bridgeport Connecticut. 18 miles away from Newtown.
http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/eventDe...C6C9CD83CDC9C7
Boston Marathon bombings- Active shooter drill WAS to take place called "Operation Urban Shield". The drill involved backpack bombs and how to cope with the people after the backpack bomb went off.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/201...kiI/story.html
I'm not sure what you're getting at with these drills; are you saying that they do the drills and then record footage using crisis actors?
Went back and found links in case people think I'm pulling that off of something that they deem nonreputable.
BTW, I searched on youtube for Alison Parker wdbj7, and previous to yesterday's news there was only two short videos that were uploaded a couple of weeks ago.
I would have thought that a news anchor who has been in the job for years would have had more videos dating way back.
The thread on 4 about this has some doubters too, even tho the majority of people still buy the official story without question.
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supposedly the shooter posted his own video on his facebook
feel like it has to be fake -- this is just to demented
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video looks fake as hell
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she took the first few bullets well, managing to turn and run, do we know if he then executed her or what?
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If anyone has watched both videos, I don't understand how he is able to walk up behind the camera man and hang out there without no one noticing ? He even pulls out the gun behind the cameraman and then puts it back. Just seems odd no one noticed his presence.
She just turned 24. Also from what I understand she was a reporter, not a news anchor.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
It's odd because her twitter account dates back to May 2014 where, funnily enough, her first tweet is of herself with the cameraman.
My point is that if she's been in the job since at least May 2014, then you'd think there would be more than just two videos which have been uploaded on youtube in the past two weeks.
Another thing which has been trending for some time with these msm gunman stories, is the manifesto which seems to be a standard thing nowadays.
Either I have been smoking to much wax or these niggas makin a lil bit sense.
Smoking to much cock you violent fag.
It's one thing when you think certain events might have some conspiracy related issues... It's a whole other unstable, retarded mess when you think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.
Every post in this thread talking about how she briefly ran away, or how the lady didn't see the gun when he held it up the first time and attributing those factors to this somehow being fake is speculative retardation at its worst.
Until you've actually been in terrifying situations or have witnessed shit like this first hand (not watched on TV or the movies), where the completely unexpected happens, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. It's been seriously painful reading through this thread, almost as equally painful as it has been reading comments on the press releases related to this story.
About half of what I read is actually saying these two deserved to be killed. It's a very sad state of affairs we find ourselves in today. Who knows, maybe people have always been this fucked up in their beliefs and it's just now being exposed because of the internet, but holy Hell it sucks seeing it.
The truth of the matter is that the victims would actually be able to defend themselves in that scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Vegas. Which of my list of events do you think contained some sort of conspiracy related issues?
Also what exactly do you mean when you say "some conspiracy related issues." Are you saying that people plan half the event and left the other parts to chance?
I honestly don't care if people believe or don't believe, as long as it doesn't drive them to the point of thinking only governments can own guns.
Maybe in some situations, but highly doubtful in this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by KryptThe truth of the matter is that the victims would actually be able to defend themselves in that scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
They were all completely taken by surprise. I don't care how much training any of them might have hypothetically had, even if all three were armed I very much doubt the outcome would have been any different. None of them would have been able to pull out a weapon fast enough to have stopped this maniac. Even the woman facing him wouldn't have been able to react in time. She might have been able to get some shots off 5-10 seconds after the first couple shots were fired, but IMO the majority of the damage would have already been done. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten away had she been able to fire on him, but maybe he would have turned on her again and there would have been 3 murders, not 2. Again, the chances for most people to remain calm enough to pull a gun and get some accurate shots off in that situation are minimal at best. Nerves and adrenaline are a bitch, especially for some 50-60 year old woman that would never expect something like that to unfold.
Like I said above, everyone is different, and until you've been in a situation where your life is threatened and your adrenaline spikes in a millisecond you have no idea how you would react. Doubtful any of those three, or most people for that matter, would have had the ability to react in a manner that would have changed the outcome.
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to imply. If this guy didn't have a gun, and had to resort to using a knife/bat/etc., the victims would have at least a semblance of a chance to defend themselves (even if taken by surprise). A gun is practically impossible to defend against; you simply have to pray the guy misses.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369Maybe in some situations, but highly doubtful in this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
They were all completely taken by surprise. I don't care how much training any of them might have hypothetically had, even if all three were armed I very much doubt the outcome would have been any different. None of them would have been able to pull out a weapon fast enough to have stopped this maniac. Even the woman facing him wouldn't have been able to react in time. She might have been able to get some shots off 5-10 seconds after the first couple shots were fired, but IMO the majority of the damage would have already been done. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten away had she been able to fire on him, but maybe he would have turned on her again and there would have been 3 murders, not 2. Again, the chances for most people to remain calm enough to pull a gun and get some accurate shots off in that situation are minimal at best. Nerves and adrenaline are a bitch, especially for some 50-60 year old woman that would never expect something like that to unfold.
Like I said above, everyone is different, and until you've been in a situation where your life is threatened and your adrenaline spikes in a millisecond you have no idea how you would react. Doubtful any of those three, or most people for that matter, would have had the ability to react in a manner that would have changed the outcome.