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From my point of view it's just the way that he did THAT in the the way that he did. I mean, this is an opportunity for him to literally cull all that good stuff and put it in a book of its own and sell THAT. To whine about it publicly and in the face of everyone who has contributed like that is like saying that 'our shit ain't any better than your shit' and so it effectively becomes so.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUSTIFIEDhomicide
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Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
Pretty much. He's saying he's running a business(2+2) not a playground(pfa) and wants them to delete that shit so people will buy books. I don't like the dude, but hes running a business and it is his business, so he can do kinda whatever he wants, and that might help him make the most profit
This is why I post at 4 only in cases of emergency, and I recommend the same for everyone else. The thought of him making a penny off any of my thoughts or words turns my stomach.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUSTIFIEDhomicideQuote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
Pretty much. He's saying he's running a business(2+2) not a playground(pfa) and wants them to delete that shit so people will buy books. I don't like the dude, but hes running a business and it is his business, so he can do kinda whatever he wants, and that might help him make the most profit
For old times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BhMkkknRI
Mason has a history of trying to control other sites through 2+2.
One of the more infamous ones indirectly involved me.
Mason hated me so much in 2008 that he actually banned a respected ESPN writer (Gary Wise) for including me in an article. Not kidding. He told Gary that he wasn't allowed on 2+2 because he interviewed me for an ESPN article. 2+2 was more relevant in those days, and had a lot more posters, many of whom were very respected in poker. There was such outrage over this that Mason quietly reversed the decision and let Gary back on.
Regarding the situation where Mason deleted threads related to strategy, yes that really happened. The author in question was Ed Miller, and Mason was furious that Ed ran a personal free website (separate from 2+2) that gave some strategy tips which were also in the 2+2-published book by Miller.
In addition to banning and making legal threats to Miller, Mason went crazy and demanded that the mods delete any strategy threads that could serve to detract from sales of 2+2 books. Basically he was telling them not to allow any good strategy threads because then 2+2 couldn't sell strategy books.
While it's Mason's right to do what he wants with his own business, these actions were spitting in the face of his massive userbase -- the same userbase which made him so much money over the years (from book sales and website ads). If you don't want to run a forum where strategy is discussed, that's fine. However, it's unethical to build a huge poker-related forum, profit from the voluntary and unpaid content provided by users, and then quietly remove the good user-posted content in order to sell more books. Mason wanted it both ways. He wanted to have a highly profitable and influential poker forum, but also wanted to sell books about strategy. So users were coming to 2+2 thinking they were reading good strategy forums, when in reality Mason was quietly instructing the mods to remove anything good from those sections.
It would be equivalent to ESPN starting a big sports forum, and then deleting threads there just because they were better than some of the articles from ESPN authors.
Do people really think the grand wizard is that well off? I did a search and I only see one property under his name.
http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/Depts/a...prop/ownr.aspx
I'm not saying its a complete shit hole but generally people who are worth millions of dollars do not live in $250k condos, especially poker players who love to flaunt their money. I realize Mason is a strange dude so things may be different in his case.
Are you familiar with this area, Druff? If so, what can you say about it.
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If it's close to Nacho Daddy he's winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
Some people on 2+2 are now complaining about my banning. Mason hasn't responded.
Here is my favorite post, by Feline9ine:
I don't know the guy, in case you're wondering.Quote:
Based on what some in this thread have said, it appears that Mr. Malmuth diligently scans other poker forums looking for people who are unhappy with other people, and if the people who are making the other people unhappy refuse to apologize (sincerely) to the unhappy people then Mr. Malmuth swoops back here like some sort of Avenging Angel of Internet Butthurt and bans the people making the other people unhappy. Is that it?
No wonder he looks so damn tired.
Start reading at post #132: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...15/index9.html
Mason,
You psychopathic freak, please name some other posters on your forum where you have looked into their posts ON OTHER FORUMS to determine whether they should be allowed to post on your precious forum?
We will wait.
He can call the forum small and inconsequential, and it is small and inconsequential compared to 2+2, but I still don't think he likes the competition. He clearly came over and took a look from his comments, saw a couple hundred lurkers reading, and didn't like it. They simply don't have the hits they used to over there, and you having half the lurkers of his most active forum probably doesn't sit well. Ultimately he's always about the buck, and I don't think he likes the fact that you become the lightning rod in a lot of the threads and drive traffic here even if you're getting pounded on in the thread by a lot of the posters. Whether people are agreeing with you or fucking with you, you've always been kind of polarizing, and that draws views.
I've always thought you and Mason are a lot alike. Not saying you're exactly alike, but you're both conservatives, and the same type of pragmatic conservatives rather than religious conservatives. You both are kind of attracted to the value spots in gambling rather than degens. You have similar backgrounds and interest in +ev blackjack, the best promotions in Vegas, etc. You both like control over your site, albeit for slightly different reasons.
You guys seem like the type who would get along in the real world, but I think he kind of views you as a small threat if things ever go sideways over there. With them removing strategy content for the most part, most of the traffic is simply social like this site. If they ever did anything to alienate their membership in some big way, they could have all the same conversations over here without any of the censorship. I don't think he worries about this at the moment, because that isn't worth much right now, but he's been involved with politics and trying to get poker legalized, and if it happens down the line, he doesn't want anyone encroaching on his monopoly even slightly.
Bob Freebie = Jewdonk? LOL.
Glad to see the guy is still alive. Was hopeful the lung cancer did not get to him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9xZd75S-F0
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Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
the amount of times Micon said the word "LIKE" is staggering.
Basically 8 seconds after I posted this video from Jewdonk, he deleted it. Literally 8 seconds, so he has been refreshing this site by the minute since he saw this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by bottomset_69
Funny how he had every opportunity to explain to Druff on page 1 of this thread why he began trolling him again for no reason, no answer then 8 second later when someone re-posts his panoramic view of his latest ghetto shithole, he is right here to hop on youtube and delete it. He was however available when he posted his latest post to Druff on 2+2 a few minutes ago
Same old song.
cool story bro
I just got banned at 4 for "Spam"
You are a world class PUTZ, Malmuth.
Why dont you come into chat so you can see what we think of you, you power-tripping gump.
what's the over/under on how long Druff talks about this on radio?
Drkstar, the girl who interviews Micon posed nude? Link please? What's her name?
I have had two lifetime bans from 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
1. During SklanskyGate
2. During Secockgate
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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
Her name was Nicole is Nice
maybe 4D or Bukow has that pic. There were even a few photoshops. One of them was with Skylansky looking at her ass.
Bukowski to the rescue