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Israeliss thoroughly enjoy killing women and children. Before the creation of Israel these people were killing Russians on an industrial scale via communism.
Israeli's don't have souls, they're ice cold killers.
https://x.com/OnePathNetwork/status/1950373548348027222
Anyone supporting Israel is sick in the head period.
Debunked, people are really freaked out abouyt how everything Israel claims is a blatant lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
If the arabs put down their guns there would be no more war, if Israel puts down their guns there would be no more jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
https://x.com/Kaizerrev/status/1950053439129399324
I have a theory, i think the Israelis definition of truth is different from the rest of the world.
Because of their superiority complex they think the truth is whatever they say. To them there are no lies just different versions of the truth.
i wonder why Druff won't try and refute any of this stuff...???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72aZhsNMOWk
if there is no starvation going on according to Israel, why would Jordan and the UAE be doing air drops of aid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIkPN-kl_7o
If the talking points are “you are cherry picking the images of starving children” and not showing the non starving ones enough…you lost the argument. Man I really try to stay out of this shit but this is really pissing me off. Two wrongs don’t make a right. The fucking kids are starving.
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Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsIf the arabs put down their guns there would be no more war, if Israel puts down their guns there would be no more jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Orko: Stop lying
sonatine: i respect your concern but i think its misplaced atm
So on a lighter note, I mentioned to the lovely and talented Mrs. Bagadonuts when I posted this last night that Sonatine would disagree with me with green and either Orko or 1dollarboxcar would neg me for sure.
I could have posted my thoughts on anyone's comments but I chose Sonatine for a reason. While I can't consider someone I've never met a friiend, Tine and I have been friendly for over 15 years and I respect him as a bright guy and great poster, even if our opinions diverge on this topic.
Orko on the other hand has always come across as an antisemite ileftist deologue and a boor, but I'm trying to keep an open mind. I imagine that if he and I sat down for a beer we'd probably agree more than we disagree but I'm an optimist by nature so who knows.
I'm not an active member of this community anymore and I know no one gives a shit, but part of the reason I'm not around is I have a hard time with the antisemitism. Legit criticism of Israel is exactly that, but choosing to side with a theocratic muslim autocratcy over a western democracy to me is wild.
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Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsQuote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Orko: Stop lying
sonatine: i respect your concern but i think its misplaced atm
So on a lighter note, I mentioned to the lovely and talented Mrs. Bagadonuts when I posted this last night that Sonatine would disagree with me with green and either Orko or 1dollarboxcar would neg me for sure.
I could have posted my thoughts on anyone's comments but I chose Sonatine for a reason. While I can't consider someone I've never met a friiend, Tine and I have been friendly for over 15 years and I respect him as a bright guy and great poster, even if our opinions diverge on this topic.
Orko on the other hand has always come across as an antisemite ileftist deologue and a boor, but I'm trying to keep an open mind. I imagine that if he and I sat down for a beer we'd probably agree more than we disagree but I'm an optimist by nature so who knows.
I'm not an active member of this community anymore and I know no one gives a shit, but part of the reason I'm not around is I have a hard time with the antisemitism. Legit criticism of Israel is exactly that, but choosing to side with a theocratic muslim autocratcy over a western democracy to me is wild.
respected.
i align with the many jewish people and many israeli jews who think the likud party are genocidal sociopathic parasites who desperately want to end run the biblical apocalypse.
always appreciate your perspective, todays no different.
https://youtu.be/QRjEMbHXM4Q?si=O_PDBcYt1fccXeKR
The Tucker two middle fingers to Israel arc is pretty entertaining
Omg what an outrageous statement, i'm not going to take the bait.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsQuote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Orko: Stop lying
sonatine: i respect your concern but i think its misplaced atm
So on a lighter note, I mentioned to the lovely and talented Mrs. Bagadonuts when I posted this last night that Sonatine would disagree with me with green and either Orko or 1dollarboxcar would neg me for sure.
I could have posted my thoughts on anyone's comments but I chose Sonatine for a reason. While I can't consider someone I've never met a friiend, Tine and I have been friendly for over 15 years and I respect him as a bright guy and great poster, even if our opinions diverge on this topic.
Orko on the other hand has always come across as an antisemite ileftist deologue and a boor, but I'm trying to keep an open mind. I imagine that if he and I sat down for a beer we'd probably agree more than we disagree but I'm an optimist by nature so who knows.
I'm not an active member of this community anymore and I know no one gives a shit, but part of the reason I'm not around is I have a hard time with the antisemitism. Legit criticism of Israel is exactly that, but choosing to side with a theocratic muslim autocratcy over a western democracy to me is wild.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, i hope you have a fantastic day., sincerely.
btw tony to your point, the UN has confirmed that hamas has hijacked like 80%+ of the food trucks. and to my point, if IDF was exterminating hamas instead of civilians, id be cheering for them.
it's a good 13 min. watch, i like the guys statement at the end... "the start of Israel's down fall was the internet, because they can no longer control the narrative by traditional means like they have in the past"....
damn pesky internet, where you can get more than 1 side of the story...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWr8cdGz1Zs
here's that whistle blower dude again, pretty powerful... 8 min. long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKpkZNAFwkc
But who is "Hamas" and who is a "civilian", though?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
This is a longtime trick in the Hamas playbook. Israel kills a terrorist doing terrorist things, and Hamas classifies the victim as a "doctor", "journalist", "father", "civilian", etc.
The IDF is not just going and willy-nilly shooting innocent civilians dead. That's a fantasy pushed by anti-Semites on both the left and right, who are exploiting this opportunity to stoke hatred against Jews and Israel. There's no better time than the present for that.
https://x.com/ToddWitteles/status/1951115850670547278
This mass starvation bullshit, for example, is pure propaganda. I'm surprised so many are fooled by it. Does nobody remember what real starvation looked like in India, Ethiopia, Sudan, etc? Notice those countries didn't feature fat parents with individual emaciated kids. Notice it was easy to find pictures (even pre-internet) of massive groups of starving people sitting or standing together.
Not in Gaza. It's always lone kids with their fat/healthy parents, and you rarely see them with a fellow starving sibling.
This whole thing is a propaganda war, and unfortunately, Israel is losing it.
Meh. People believe the propaganda they are conditioned to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I think a lot of this has to do with Western media and Western leaders (with Trump being the exception) aligning with Hamas and putting all the onus on Israel to give in to end the conflict.
If our media and leaders had spent the last 1.5 years directing 90% of criticism on Hamas, taking at face value every negative claim made against Hamas, and urging them to give up the hostages and abdicate for peace, while giving Israel mostly a free pass, the narrative and public sentiment would be completely different.
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Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
The IDF is not just going and willy-nilly shooting innocent civilians dead. That's a fantasy pushed by anti-Semites on both the left and right, who are exploiting this opportunity to stoke hatred against Jews and Israel.
https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1950984763709292869
@Druff, so the ex special ops guy (whistle blower) is lying? spreading propaganda/mis/disinformation? he says the IDF makes these people walk 8-12km just to get to the aid daily, through a war zone, the hungry and weak are left behind as they can not make the trip daily... the IDF fires at the crowds for fun and jokes and so on...
very important question, if Israel is doing such a good job at these "aid centers" (oops i mean death traps) why won't they let in any media... you know just to make sure everything is KOSHER...?? things that make you go hmmmmm...
The part I cant get around is how in 2025 can something like this be going on so often and there is never any video evidence of it? Israel has supposedly massacred hundreds waiting in bread lines over weeks/months and there is no video evidence. Everyone knows this is supposedly going on, and no one is able to take a covert video? How is that possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I mean the Druze/Beduin/HTS massacres only lasted a couple days and videos of it flooded the internet. Civilians being executed in cold blood, normally with everyones favorite war cry "Allah Akbar" following.
Hamas also regularly tortures and shoots "collaborators" and videos make it on the internet.
How is it IDF has been doing all these atrocities for months/years, and nothing? I dont even know what BBC video the contractor is referencing, but does it actually show IDF shooting civilians?
I mean, the way the contractor described it, it seems shooting "warning shots" at the groud and air was policy both they and the IDF widely did. I personally would say that is a very bad policy because people might get shot, but no one asked me.
So if you told me this policy, and poor training/discipline, led to civilians being inadvertently hit by bullets richochet off the ground, that is plausible. But that certainly aren't what the accusations are. The accusations are hundreds are being massacred in bread lines in systematic fashion over weeks. And I cant really wrap my mind around how in 2025 this could happen with zero video evidence ever seeing the light of day.
They seem to let some (friendly) media in. I follow an account on X that was reporting regularly from a GHF site.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1dollarboxcar
https://x.com/Mr_Andrew_Fox/status/1949955388843135372
The Hamas charter says otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrkoDebunkedQuote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
https://www.adl.org/resources/articl...-its-own-words