The Official President Obama / Governor Romney debate thread 10-16-2012

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Originally Posted by Paul Keating

The problem you cats have is this presidential form of democracy you practise is flawed. The US is plagued with legislative gridlock, even when a president is elected with a clear mandate, he's still basically got to answer to a minority in the legislature, which gives idiotic ideological nutters way too much power to block solid policy. Also, because the president, once elected, will serve out his term unless he is shot or impeached, you end up with the debacle you currently have with Romney standing up straight faced and so clearly bullshitting that he's almost laughing at it himself, knowing that if he gets in he's no one to answer too. On top of that, you've got a partisan judical system adding to the fire with judgements being heavily weighted with ideology.

Because minority view points have so much power the whole system is geared towards decision making based on ideology rather than outcome.

There's arguments in this election that the rest of the western world settled 40 years ago. It's lunacy.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

People who are voting for Romney will say Romney won. People who are voting for Obama will say Obama won.

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I'm not voting for either one and IMO it's clear that Romney crushed the first one and Obama won the second pretty handily.

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So much BULLSHIT!!!!

Maybe they should decide ahead of time what the facts are.

Does anyone really believe that Romney can create 12 million jobs in the next 4 years?

I do.

First he lowers the minimum wage to $1.00 per hour with no benefits and no health insurance.
In the next 10 years, the Chinese will have 500 million people that will be the equivalent of our middle class.
Within 10 years, the U.S. will be making plenty of shit to sell to China.

Millionaires and Billionaires will pay no taxes.
The U.S. will be drilling in every hole on public and private land for oil & gas.
However, the price of gas will be over $4.00 a gallon.
Since, Romney will abolish the EPA the air will be unbreathable and the water undrinkable.
Romney declares war on Russia, Iraq, Syria, Iran and North Korea.
Romney ends Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Food Stamps.
Only white people can vote, no blacks, latinos, indians, asians,etc.
As Romney completes his term as Supreme Dictator he settles the national debt by
selling America to China which is renamed Chinamerica.


The future looks bright :)



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All you guys who watched the debates last night missed a real good college football game between ULL and North Texas. I had $50 on ULL -4, so of course all their wide receivers get hurt during the game and they diarrhead all over the field in the 2nd half.

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Originally Posted by TheXFactor

So much BULLSHIT!!!!

Maybe they should decide ahead of time what the facts are.

Does anyone really believe that Romney can create 12 million jobs in the next 4 years?

I do.

First he lowers the minimum wage to $1.00 per hour with no benefits and no health insurance.
In the next 10 years, the Chinese will have 500 million people that will be the equivalent of our middle class.
Within 10 years, the U.S. will be making plenty of shit to sell to China.

Millionaires and Billionaires will pay no taxes.
The U.S. will be drilling in every hole on public and private land for oil & gas.
However, the price of gas will be over $4.00 a gallon.
Since, Romney will abolish the EPA the air will be unbreathable and the water undrinkable.
Romney declares war on Russia, Iraq, Syria, Iran and North Korea.
Romney ends Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Food Stamps.
Only white people can vote, no blacks, latinos, indians, asians,etc.
As Romney completes his term as Supreme Dictator he settles the national debt by
selling America to China which is renamed Chinamerica.


The future looks bright :)



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Well reality is Obamas already wiping his ass with the Constitution with his repeated sidesteps around Congress with blantant tactics that border on high crimes and misdomeanors (yes Im saying he's committed impeachable offenses). His Atty General has violated so many laws he should be thrown in Leavenworth and the key thrown away. Who needs Romney to sell the US to China Obamas doing it anyway with his runaway debt he's selling to China whats the fucking difference. I dont believe for a minute Romney wants to end all those programs mention but sure as shit end the abuse and those who are perfectly capable of working sitting on their asses have to at least do something productive I dont give a fuck if they only stand ont he side of the road doing sign turning if you can work your fucking ass is gonna do something. No more endless increases for black whores who breed like monkeys and have 10-15 children. You have 1 its one thing 2 maybe but if you keep breeding we're not giving you extra money (these are the people Planned Parenthood the Democrats claim is helping well either these fucking bitchs aint taking their pills or depo shots or need remedial education on how the fuck to put a condom on some sack of shit whos got 20 kids with 9 women). Which brings us to assholes who continue to father kids and not support them. NO MORE.. National Database for childsupport meaning assholes cant go hide in another state and not pay (which happens alot more then you know). If you have a problem with holding people accountable for their own actions and decisions then I have nothing but contempt. If most of us have to live with our decisions and the consequences of our actions guess what SO DO THEY!!. For those who are legitimately disabled and what not thats a different story but wayy too many people play the system and use it not as a safety net but as a lifestyle of thinking they are OWED something for nothing. Nothing in this life is free people, if you think its not your kidding yourself.

lol @ anyone reading that wall of a text.

Nice tilt ftp

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Originally Posted by TheXFactor

So much BULLSHIT!!!!

Maybe they should decide ahead of time what the facts are.

Does anyone really believe that Romney can create 12 million jobs in the next 4 years?

I do.

First he lowers the minimum wage to $1.00 per hour with no benefits and no health insurance.
In the next 10 years, the Chinese will have 500 million people that will be the equivalent of our middle class.
Within 10 years, the U.S. will be making plenty of shit to sell to China.

Millionaires and Billionaires will pay no taxes.
The U.S. will be drilling in every hole on public and private land for oil & gas.
However, the price of gas will be over $4.00 a gallon.
Since, Romney will abolish the EPA the air will be unbreathable and the water undrinkable.
Romney declares war on Russia, Iraq, Syria, Iran and North Korea.
Romney ends Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Food Stamps.
Only white people can vote, no blacks, latinos, indians, asians,etc.
As Romney completes his term as Supreme Dictator he settles the national debt by
selling America to China which is renamed Chinamerica.


The future looks bright :)



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yeah xfactor and ftpjesus should have a political debate of the incomprehensible/stupid

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Originally Posted by Corrigan

lol @ anyone reading that wall of a text.

Nice tilt ftp

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:this

I made it less than a quarter of the way.

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Originally Posted by ftpjesus

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Originally Posted by TheXFactor

So much BULLSHIT!!!!

Maybe they should decide ahead of time what the facts are.

Does anyone really believe that Romney can create 12 million jobs in the next 4 years?

I do.

First he lowers the minimum wage to $1.00 per hour with no benefits and no health insurance.
In the next 10 years, the Chinese will have 500 million people that will be the equivalent of our middle class.
Within 10 years, the U.S. will be making plenty of shit to sell to China.

Millionaires and Billionaires will pay no taxes.
The U.S. will be drilling in every hole on public and private land for oil & gas.
However, the price of gas will be over $4.00 a gallon.
Since, Romney will abolish the EPA the air will be unbreathable and the water undrinkable.
Romney declares war on Russia, Iraq, Syria, Iran and North Korea.
Romney ends Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Food Stamps.
Only white people can vote, no blacks, latinos, indians, asians,etc.
As Romney completes his term as Supreme Dictator he settles the national debt by
selling America to China which is renamed Chinamerica.


The future looks bright :)



:facepalm3

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Well reality is Obamas already wiping his ass with the Constitution with his repeated sidesteps around Congress with blantant tactics that border on high crimes and misdomeanors (yes Im saying he's committed impeachable offenses). His Atty General has violated so many laws he should be thrown in Leavenworth and the key thrown away. Who needs Romney to sell the US to China Obamas doing it anyway with his runaway debt he's selling to China whats the fucking difference. I dont believe for a minute Romney wants to end all those programs mention but sure as shit end the abuse and those who are perfectly capable of working sitting on their asses have to at least do something productive I dont give a fuck if they only stand ont he side of the road doing sign turning if you can work your fucking ass is gonna do something. No more endless increases for black whores who breed like monkeys and have 10-15 children. You have 1 its one thing 2 maybe but if you keep breeding we're not giving you extra money (these are the people Planned Parenthood the Democrats claim is helping well either these fucking bitchs aint taking their pills or depo shots or need remedial education on how the fuck to put a condom on some sack of shit whos got 20 kids with 9 women). Which brings us to assholes who continue to father kids and not support them. NO MORE.. National Database for childsupport meaning assholes cant go hide in another state and not pay (which happens alot more then you know). If you have a problem with holding people accountable for their own actions and decisions then I have nothing but contempt. If most of us have to live with our decisions and the consequences of our actions guess what SO DO THEY!!. For those who are legitimately disabled and what not thats a different story but wayy too many people play the system and use it not as a safety net but as a lifestyle of thinking they are OWED something for nothing. Nothing in this life is free people, if you think its not your kidding yourself.

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Another strong performance by Mitt Romney. At least Obama showed up this time.

Moderator Candy Crowley couldn't hide her obvious bias towards Obama. She gave him more time while she cut off Romney and actually interrupted Romney during his answer about the Benghazi terrorist attack. Crowley was wrong and Romney was right but she did it to help her candidate, Obama.

Still, the third debate will be about foreign policy so Romney will have a huge platform to reveal Obama's pathetic attempts to label the Benghazi terrorist attack as a demonstration about a Youtube video. Obama did this on Univision, Letterman, The View and six times during his UN speech. His surrogates repeated the lie numerous times.

With his powerful comments on Libya, gas prices and especially the economy, Romney won the debate. He came across as a leader with real solutions. Obama tried to channel Joe Biden's boorish brusqueness. I'm sure it excited his base but that might not be enough for Obama to win. He needs to convince independents and undecided voters.

From the MSNBC and Frank Luntz focus groups it appears Obama failed to that. Have a look.

Luntz Group of Mostly Former Obama Voters Switch to Romney!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd4B31fYdLU

MSNBC Undecided Voter Panel Leans More Toward Romney After Debate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDanNdzAUn0

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Originally Posted by SixToedPete

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Romney will fuck your country up as much as Regan did.

I mean egalitarianism is actually a bad word in your political discourse despite it being eluded to throughout your constitution. Madness.

The Cold War fucked y'all up because it gave weight to ideological governance.

How is universal health care even an issue in 2012?

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Originally Posted by Corrigan

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Originally Posted by SixToedPete

Another strong performance by Mitt Romney. At least Obama showed up this time.

Moderator Candy Crowley couldn't hide her obvious bias towards Obama. She gave him more time while she cut off Romney and actually interrupted Romney during his answer about the Benghazi terrorist attack. Crowley was wrong and Romney was right but she did it to help her candidate, Obama.

Still, the third debate will be about foreign policy so Romney will have a huge platform to reveal Obama's pathetic attempts to label the Benghazi terrorist attack as a demonstration about a Youtube video. Obama did this on Univision, Letterman, The View and six times during his UN speech. His surrogates repeated the lie numerous times.

With his powerful comments on Libya, gas prices and especially the economy, Romney won the debate. He came across as a leader with real solutions. Obama tried to channel Joe Biden's boorish brusqueness. I'm sure it excited his base but that might not be enough for Obama to win. He needs to convince independents and undecided voters.

From the MSNBC and Frank Luntz focus groups it appears Obama failed to that. Have a look.

Luntz Group of Mostly Former Obama Voters Switch to Romney!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd4B31fYdLU

MSNBC Undecided Voter Panel Leans More Toward Romney After Debate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDanNdzAUn0

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SixToedPete sometimes makes unfounded assertions but it's hard to refute him when backed up with video clips. GG Pete

Here's the fundamental difference between the US and the rest of the western world, around 1950 we all realised that goverment policy encouraging social mobility is a great thing for rich and poor alike. Where as Y'all believe in the stick more than the carrot, which is why you have an underclass weighing your whole country down.

How a country who so beloves the free market can have two presidential candidates talking about bringing back unskilled manufacturing, in a globalised economy, to fix the economy just dumbfounds me.

Your education system is fucked, smart kids born poor having to head off to war to pay for college? It's just madness.

These are the reasons your country is looking more and more gameplay fucked.

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Originally Posted by SixToedPete

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Originally Posted by Corrigan

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Originally Posted by Paul Keating

Here's the fundamental difference between the US and the rest of the western world, around 1950 we all realised that goverment policy encouraging social mobility is a great thing for rich and poor alike. Where as Y'all believe in the stick more than the carrot, which is why you have an underclass weighing your whole country down.

How a country who so beloves the free market can have two presidential candidates talking about bringing back unskilled manufacturing, in a globalised economy, to fix the economy just dumbfounds me.

Your education system is fucked, smart kids born poor having to head off to war to pay for college? It's just madness.

These are the reasons your country is looking more and more gameplay fucked.

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Whatever shithole you're from, I doubt that any poster here from the States would want to switch with you. Opinions on American politics are almost worthless. Opinions on American politics from foreigners IS worthless. Your opinion is worth less than 408Mike's. Please fuck off.