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So exactly how do you suggest people “lay low” without going to work?
This is the big question right now. Ontario shit down because they claim hospitals can’t support the impending tsunami of cases. They expect 1 percent of all covid cases will need to be hospitalized. That 10k for a million cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmick
Can't see how this isn't +EV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
The cases are lower though, but hospitalizations following the graph looks pretty bad. Sunday was 280k and Saturday 160k for cases. Monday numbers mostly just catch up the weekend lag.
Personally I’m not really buying the hospitals we be overrun. I’ve worked in healthcare for years and hospital staff are always saying this but find a way to make it work despite staff shortages. Not saying of course that it will be painless. But you do have a bit of the boy who cried wolf here
The nice thing right now is with how quickly the spread is you will be able to decently compare regions that have not locked down vs those that did and whether hospitals were overrun. And we should know that answer by the end of January.
Come on Mickey, he was your second best target after Sobchak. With the fat ass temporarily gone, you blocked the next best option.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI unblocked everyone on my ignore list when I came back. Congratulations! You are the first to go back on ignore. You'll have to spew your idiocy without me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
LOL, what a thin skinned faggot.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI unblocked everyone on my ignore list when I came back. Congratulations! You are the first to go back on ignore. You'll have to spew your idiocy without me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
I'm not going to harp on but talking about a relationship with puckerbutt was a fucking layup.
Anyway, good luck avoiding speedbumps and godspeed.
"Hospitalization" numbers, in the US at least, are pretty meaningless, and the media and Democrat Party know this and are just cynically using it as a scare tactic and political weapon. If you go into the hospital for any reason, they test you for Covid, and mark it as a "Covid hospitalization." The majority of these "hospitalizations" are people who will never even get seriously sick or receive any Covid specific care. There is a reason the media is focusing on "hospitalizations" and not something more meaningful, like ICU admits, because it lets them construct a particular narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmickCan't see how this isn't +EV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
The cases are lower though, but hospitalizations following the graph looks pretty bad. Sunday was 280k and Saturday 160k for cases. Monday numbers mostly just catch up the weekend lag.
At the end of the day you have to pay attention to what people are doing, not what they are saying. For example whatever AOC is saying about Covid, she is partying it up in South Beach right now, which is basically the Covid epicenter of the world. There is this giant disconnect where except for a tiny minority of the most ardent Branch Covidian worshippers, no one is even pretending anymore like they take the media narrative is accurate, except of course when there is political capital to be gained.
So we had a "cold" go through our entire household, and although none of us got tested it seems almost certain it was Omicron, as a lot of family we spent Christmas with got tested and were positive.
Interestingly, when I was actually feeling like I had a cold I just had a runny nose and a little bit of a sore throat, and I was able to go about my day fairly normally. However, after all that cleared I got this annoying cough, so now I am pretty much forced to stay at home, as you cant really go out and about coughing every 5 minutes in today's climate. Or at least I cant. I see plenty of people who DGAF strolling around coughing, and I dont judge myself, but I am too self conscious myself to pull that move and in a way I am actually envious of those who aren't.
My son is going to get his 2nd Pfizer shot today, which is probably more or less meaningless (at best) from a health standpoint. Amusingly, within his peer group at school somehow becoming vaccinated has become a status signal of sorts, and he is actually eager to get it done and show off to his friends, and he is more or less oblivious to the fact he most certainly just got over Covid and getting the shot now wouldn't be productive.
I cannot believe I haven’t gotten it yet. I haven’t had any sort of cold either so I doubt I got it and missed it.
Wife is getting booster tomorrow. See how bad that goes. I haven’t had a booster yet.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/indi...c06725e2c.html
This is an interesting article who uses real empirical data to illustrate what is actually happening. The article basically states that empirical life insurance claims indicate the death rate of working age people (18-64) increased 40% during the pandemic, which is actually astoundingly high. Of course, the real interesting thing moving forward is going to be when (hopefully honest) researchers try to tease apart actual Covid related deaths vs. comorbidities due to Covid vs. deaths attributed to the pandemic response (which would include deaths attributed to vaccines and much more importantly IMO the general decrease in physical and mental health caused by the pandemic response).
Also, just to keep things in perspective, according to UN projections, this entire pandemic is barely a blip in the march of humanity to overpopulate the world.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...rld/population
Chart and table of World population from 1950 to 2022. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.
The current population of World in 2022 is 7,953,952,567, a 1% increase from 2021.
The population of World in 2021 was 7,874,965,825, a 1.03% increase from 2020.
The population of World in 2020 was 7,794,798,739, a 1.05% increase from 2019.
The population of World in 2019 was 7,713,468,100, a 1.08% increase from 2018.
How many GOP's have to die like this?.............The results are in, the vaccine keeps you alive, (no one ever said it was 100% to prevent you from getting it, you get a much milder version.)
This is what is gonna happen to DWAI &/or his butt buddy w/the sister that is a "nurse". Then we won't get to tell them what a bunch of dumb fucks they were, and how F'ed up they were for spreading disinformation.
Yeah, the GOP aren't sheep, they just all individually (using their own research) decided their GED is better than 1000's of MD's combined. Getting their news from the #SethRich network had 0 to do w/it. Baa Baa Baa.
California Deputy DA Who Fought Vaccine Mandate Dies Abruptly After Falling Ill With COVID at Age 46
https://www.yahoo.com/news/californi...131753710.html
Keep in mind like 30 percent of cases asymptomatic. You may very well have had itQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
First, a lot of Republican politicians who politic against vaccine mandates are actually vaccinated and boosted (including Trump and DeSantis). We have no clue what her actual vaccination status was.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
Second, we have no idea how she actually died. I actually went down the rabbit hole and read this story and it seems all we know is that a week ago she texted a political colleague she had Covid. That is it. At this time there is absolutely zero information on her actual cause of death.
AFAICT this is just the media shaping a narrative that fits their agenda, and the sheeple running with it.
Yea i don't really follow whatever you think i do. There's quite a bit of data freely available about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalam"Hospitalization" numbers, in the US at least, are pretty meaningless, and the media and Democrat Party know this and are just cynically using it as a scare tactic and political weapon. If you go into the hospital for any reason, they test you for Covid, and mark it as a "Covid hospitalization." The majority of these "hospitalizations" are people who will never even get seriously sick or receive any Covid specific care. There is a reason the media is focusing on "hospitalizations" and not something more meaningful, like ICU admits, because it lets them construct a particular narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmick
At the end of the day you have to pay attention to what people are doing, not what they are saying. For example whatever AOC is saying about Covid, she is partying it up in South Beach right now, which is basically the Covid epicenter of the world. There is this giant disconnect where except for a tiny minority of the most ardent Branch Covidian worshippers, no one is even pretending anymore like they take the media narrative is accurate, except of course when there is political capital to be gained.
ICU admissions are also rising really fast. They have not even captured the massive increase in infections. It's just normal winter stuff. The ratio of hospitalizations to ICU has been in the 20% to 25% region since the beginning. The problem is that it still is. Omicron hasn't significantly lowered it.
In all likelihood there's a weaker correlation with infections to hospitalizations, but people that get it bad still do. It's now being tested in unfavorable climate and it doesn't look good.
Just save your hot take for February. I wanna see the body count first.
Even a liberal rag like The Atlantic is telling people not sick to stop getting tested.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ortage/621149/
Those getting tested if not required for their jobs are either paranoid fucks or are hoping to test positive to get time off work.
Finally the right was correct about this, it is the Common Cold at this point for most Americans. Even Senile Joe is saying the same thing.
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Originally Posted by gimmickYea i don't really follow whatever you think i do. There's quite a bit of data freely available about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalam
ICU admissions are also rising really fast. They have not even captured the massive increase in infections. It's just normal winter stuff. The ratio of hospitalizations to ICU has been in the 20% to 25% region since the beginning. The problem is that it still is. Omicron hasn't significantly lowered it.
In all likelihood there's a weaker correlation with infections to hospitalizations, but people that get it bad still do. It's now being tested in unfavorable climate and it doesn't look good.
Just save your hot take for February. I wanna see the body count first.
good god bro give it up, it's OVER.
Some people like to see real data. Some prefer anecdotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmick
To each their own I guess.
real data shows ICUs are always full, news flashQuote:
Originally Posted by simpdogSome people like to see real data. Some prefer anecdotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmick
To each their own I guess.
real data also shows ICUs are not full of people BECAUSE of covid
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One reason: Severe versions of Covid, including long Covid, are extremely rare in children. For them, the virus resembles a typical flu. Children face more risk from car rides than Covid.
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Some researchers are skeptical that school closures reduce Covid cases in most instances. Other interventions, like forcing students to sit apart from their friends at lunch, may also have little benefit.
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Children are hospitalized with Covid at record numbers
There is good news, and bad news:Quote:
The spike in hospitalizations frustrates pediatric infectious disease doctors on the front lines treating children sick with the coronavirus.
"It seems like people have tried to downplay the significance of the disease in children," said Dr. Mark Kline, the physician-in-chief at Children's Hospital New Orleans. "We've spent two years rebutting myths pertaining to Covid and children, that it's 'harmless' for children. It's not."
As of Monday, Kline said, 14 children were sick enough with Covid-19 to be hospitalized at his facility, and three were in the intensive care unit.
The three children are under age 2. The youngest is just 8 weeks old.
1,354 children admitted to hospitals in a day is not a great sign.Quote:
On Monday, the American Academy of Pediatrics reported a sharp rise in pediatric Covid-19 cases. At least 325,340 cases were reported during the week of Dec. 23, compared with 198,551 cases during the week of Dec. 16. While serious illness from Covid is still rare for younger children, the sheer number of new cases worries doctors.
As of Sunday, the number of pediatric Covid admissions had hit a new peak: 1,354 a day, based on a seven-day average, according to NBC News data.
A whole host of news stories covering child admissions around the country: https://news.google.com/search?q=chi...S&ceid=US%3Aen
Did you see the recent Fauci interview regarding kids in hospitals? Right out of your god's mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by khalwat
I did not -- and to be clear, I am hopeful that children remain relatively unaffected.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohDid you see the recent Fauci interview regarding kids in hospitals? Right out of your god's mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by khalwat
I care less about what any one individual has to say on the subject, and more about global consensus and trends.
Sorry to disappoint, but I haven't heard from Fauci in at least 6 months, from what I can recall.
Hey get this. I thought you were actually pretty decent on the show last night. Until the wsop vaccine part which I turned off around 30 seconds in. Congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by khalwatI did not -- and to be clear, I am hopeful that children remain relatively unaffected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
I care less about what any one individual has to say on the subject, and more about global consensus and trends.
Sorry to disappoint, but I haven't heard from Fauci in at least 6 months, from what I can recall.
haha no worries. It's fine to disagree on things. I thought you'd actually like that segment tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
khalwat with more propaganda, this guys a lost cause, NY media has ruined him. I will pray for you and your kids after you've mentally and physically harmed them with your hypochondriac personality and munchausen by proxy(forcing them to get a useless vaccine)
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you poor, poor manQuote:
Originally Posted by khalwat
kids go to the hospital every day, for many number of things, and get this, this happened before Covid as well
A pretty good read on omicron -> https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/...d-19-dangerous
It's very possible that the widespread infections from omicron combined with the relatively mild symptoms from getting it may make it so that we get enough people who get natural immunity from it without debilitating symptoms that it sorts itself out in the next few months.
Let's hope this optimistic view comes to pass on omicron, and we don't see more variants coming down the pike.
In the UK here Boris has announced that he plans to 'ride the wave' with the Omicron virus.. At last some common sense prevails and a stop to infringing on our civil liberties.
The sooner the world accepts that this is never going to go away and treats it like any other illness like the flu the better.
The only people I see benefitting from this are Lawyers and big Pharma.
There 100% will be more variants ( in fact I believe a new one just announced ) In this modern world with so much interconnection it is a certaintyQuote:
Originally Posted by khalwat
Believe me they don't want to ride the wave. Far from it. They have no choice because numbers aren't lying and people aren't buying their crap anymore. Trust me these fuckers in charge are praying people start dropping like flies any day now.Quote:
Originally Posted by nutty007
yeah that's the problem, they've wanted this from the beginning, too bad 99.98% of all people survive itQuote:
Originally Posted by PoohBelieve me they don't want to ride the wave. Far from it. They have no choice because numbers aren't lying and people aren't buying their crap anymore. Trust me these fuckers in charge are praying people start dropping like flies any day now.Quote:
Originally Posted by nutty007
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SCIENCE!
What you guys know about the Crimson Contagion?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion
Between January and August 2019, Trump's Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), headed by Alex Azar, runs a simulation—code-named "Crimson Contagion". In this "Functional Exercise", participated the National Security Council, United States Department of Health and Human Services, United States Department of Agriculture, United States Department of Commerce, United States Department of Defense, United States Department of Energy, United States Department of Homeland Security, United States Department of Housing and Urban Development, United States Department of Interior, United States Department of Justice, United States Department of Labor, United States Department of State, United States Department of Transportation, United States Department of Treasury, between others State and Local organizations, public and private.
During the simulation, several tourists fall ill with a "respiratory virus [that] began in China . . . [and] quickly spread around the world by air travelers . . . [with] high fevers." The virus spreads quickly throughout the world with the first detection in the United States occurring in Chicago (the host city for the exercise). The simulated virus was dubbed "H7N9 Influenza". Conduct of Crimson Contagion begins at a point 47 days after the first case is discovered in the United States. According to the results of the coordinating draft report, dated October 2019, the Crimson Contagion simulation registers 110 million infected Americans, 7.7 million hospitalizations, and 586,000 fatalities.[4]ovel virus.
there's more
lol you guys remember when the rapist in the white house said this?
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or what about when the dumb bitch who sucked a cock to get where she is today(while locking up tons of blacks up as a DA) said this?
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Lol, brah that’s literally what everyone has been saying for a month. Thanks for the update though.Quote:
Originally Posted by khalwat
A deputy district attorney and up-and-coming Republican political star in California’s Orange County has died abruptly after telling friends she contracted COVID-19.
Kelly Ernby, a presumed candidate for the state Assembly in 2022, was only 46 years old. According to the Los Angeles Times, she fell ill shortly after speaking out against vaccine mandates at a rally organized by Turning Point USA on Dec. 4.
“There’s nothing that matters more than our freedoms right now,” she was quoted telling the crowd during the rally at Irvine City Hall.
do you ever think to yourself, hey maybe I am an idiot being fed propaganda, and then spreading it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Entropy
A deputy district attorney and up-and-coming Republican political star in California’s Orange County has died abruptly after telling friends she contracted COVID-19.
Kelly Ernby, a presumed candidate for the state Assembly in 2022, was only 46 years old. According to the Los Angeles Times, she fell ill shortly after speaking out against vaccine mandates at a rally organized by Turning Point USA on Dec. 4.
“There’s nothing that matters more than our freedoms right now,” she was quoted telling the crowd during the rally at Irvine City Hall.
open your eyes
https://nypost.com/2022/01/05/chicag...mote-learning/
Public schools in Chicago cancelled because the union says so. The masking and distancing wasn't sufficient disruption for the kids. Nothing to see here except one of the largest teachers unions in the country voting for the outright abuse of the children they are supposed to protect.
https://nypost.com/2022/01/04/colleg...read-hysteria/
A good read regarding how liberal universities are ruining the college experience for kids unnecessarily.
Listen up
"Even as cases have surged, deaths haven’t—at least not to the same degree. Omicron is highly transmissible but generally not as severe as some older variants—“lineages” is the scientific term.
We got lucky. But that luck might not hold. Many of the same epidemiologists who have breathed a sigh of relief over Omicron’s relatively low death rate are anticipating that the next lineage might be much worse.
Fretting over a possible future lineage that combines Omicron’s extreme transmissibility with the severity of, say, the previous Delta lineage, experts are beginning to embrace a new public health strategy that’s getting an early test run in Israel: a four-shot regimen of messenger-RNA vaccine."
Cliffs: You need 4 doses of Pfizer.
Is it a coincidence that when things get serious, say like during a deadly pandemic that the USA switches from a privatized HC system to a govt funded system even providing universal coverage? No it's clearly the best system.
We wouldn't even have vaccines if it wasn't for the govt paying for the R&D.
Also if the govt was still funding vaccine development we would have new vaccines that specifically target these new strains with the potential to end the pandemic. I'm talking the total eradication of Covid 19. But no we have to get countless boosters of Pfizers unrefined shit vaccine for eternity because that's what's most profitable BARFF!!!!!!!
Yea it's all fun and profits until the Goocher Strain wipes out millions of people.
But no, we have these right wing retards and their privatized everything holding humanity hostage.
hey entropy are you real life friends with druff by any chance ?
we will never eradicate covid, and millions of people will not dieQuote:
Originally Posted by EntropyListen up
"Even as cases have surged, deaths haven’t—at least not to the same degree. Omicron is highly transmissible but generally not as severe as some older variants—“lineages” is the scientific term.
We got lucky. But that luck might not hold. Many of the same epidemiologists who have breathed a sigh of relief over Omicron’s relatively low death rate are anticipating that the next lineage might be much worse.
Fretting over a possible future lineage that combines Omicron’s extreme transmissibility with the severity of, say, the previous Delta lineage, experts are beginning to embrace a new public health strategy that’s getting an early test run in Israel: a four-shot regimen of messenger-RNA vaccine."
Cliffs: You need 4 doses of Pfizer.
Is it a coincidence that when things get serious, say like during a deadly pandemic that the USA switches from a privatized HC system to a govt funded system even providing universal coverage? No it's clearly the best system.
We wouldn't even have vaccines if it wasn't for the govt paying for the R&D.
Also if the govt was still funding vaccine development we would have new vaccines that specifically target these new strains with the potential to end the pandemic. I'm talking the total eradication of Covid 19. But no we have to get countless boosters of Pfizers unrefined shit vaccine for eternity because that's what's most profitable BARFF!!!!!!!
Yea it's all fun and profits until the Goocher Strain wipes out millions of people.
But no, we have these right wing retards and their privatized everything holding humanity hostage.
it's over fag
you're talking about herd immunity here Khalwat, yes? If its your hope that enough people get natural immunity do you now support normalizing the schools to include the immediate end to forced testing, forced vaccine, forced mask and arbitrary closures?Quote:
Originally Posted by khalwat