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lmaooooo yeah you guys crushed us, good thing there are no videos of capitol insurrectionists beating the fuck out of copsQuote:
Originally Posted by dwai
rofl got played again, way too easy to fool you LibtardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
not anymore than there are of your side beating cops you stupid fag lolQuote:
Originally Posted by nunbeaterlmaooooo yeah you guys crushed us, good thing there are no videos of capitol insurrectionists beating the fuck out of copsQuote:
Originally Posted by dwai
got played by CNN again, nothing new of course
bUt ThE iNsURRecTIoN
rofl
LOL, at DWAI, that is the best you can do? Really?
You guys haven't landed a blow, w/out lying, since the liar in chief
rode down that elevator (w/the paid fans)
The RW media rallying around Ted "Cancun" Cruz is rich.
Can't wait to hear how Fox "news" will blame Lyin' Ted's vacation on AOC, but they will find a way.
Meanwhile Beto was working,
(so when you hear the "What good could Cruz do in Texas" BS, this,
he could've got on the phone and help a constituent or two.)
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Originally Posted by dwainot anymore than there are of your side beating cops you stupid fag lolQuote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
got played by CNN again, nothing new of course
bUt ThE iNsURRecTIoN
rofl
aoc wasn't even near the Capitol building, lol fagQuote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415LOL, at DWAI, that is the best you can do? Really?
You guys haven't landed a blow, w/out lying, since the liar in chief
rode down that elevator (w/the paid fans)
The RW media rallying around Ted "Cancun" Cruz is rich.
Can't wait to hear how Fox "news" will blame Lyin' Ted's vacation on AOC, but they will find a way.
Meanwhile Beto was working,
(so when you hear the "What good could Cruz do in Texas" BS, this,
he could've got on the phone and help a constituent or two.)
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Originally Posted by dwai
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Originally Posted by dwaiaoc wasn't even near the Capitol building, lol fagQuote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
Go easy on Jimmy G. It's hard to post relevant stuff when he's pooping in Nancy Pelosi's driveway.
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Originally Posted by dwaiaoc wasn't even near the Capitol building, lol fagQuote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
Tilt harder?
BuT tHe iNsURRecTIoNQuote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy JoeQuote:
Originally Posted by dwai
Tilt harder?
ROFL FAGGOTS
your whole worldview crumbles under scrutiny
There was mostly peaceful protesting and also senseless violence. Because you disagree with the BLM movement politically you're trying to discredit them by claiming the worst protests represent all the protests. Ironically, the same kind of strategy that racists use to discredit people of other races.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffUm, did you not see all the senseless beating of cops and innocent civilians on the street during the BLM protests in the summer?Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
Was there a single message from you or other PFA lefttards condemning it, unless cornered by conservatives and pressed for comment?
I seem to remember a lot of denial and "mostly peaceful protesting" rhetoric.
I've already given you tons of examples of people on the left condemning the violence, so stop pretending to be ignorant.
Most of Trumps speeches did not end in violence, the one on Jan 6th, his final speech, did. Dwai was making light of/downplaying the events of that day, so I called him out on it.
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Originally Posted by dwai
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Originally Posted by duped_samaritanThere was mostly peaceful protesting and also senseless violence. Because you disagree with the BLM movement politically you're trying to discredit them by claiming the worst protests represent all the protests. Ironically, the same kind of strategy that racists use to discredit people of other races.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I've already given you tons of examples of people on the left condemning the violence, so stop pretending to be ignorant.
Most of Trumps speeches did not end in violence, the one on Jan 6th, his final speech, did. Dwai was making light of/downplaying the events of that day, so I called him out on it.
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Originally Posted by dwai
Dems didn’t condemn the summer riots until polls came out showing the American people were sick of them. Not sure if I can find it, but Cuomo and Lemon talked about the polls one night and the next day Biden and other Dems finally condemned the summer violence. Not sure what the point of saying mostly peaceful is or how that’s judged but at the Capitol there were hundreds of thousands of peaceful people.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanThere was mostly peaceful protesting and also senseless violence. Because you disagree with the BLM movement politically you're trying to discredit them by claiming the worst protests represent all the protests. Ironically, the same kind of strategy that racists use to discredit people of other races.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I've already given you tons of examples of people on the left condemning the violence, so stop pretending to be ignorant.
Most of Trumps speeches did not end in violence, the one on Jan 6th, his final speech, did. Dwai was making light of/downplaying the events of that day, so I called him out on it.
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Originally Posted by dwai
You're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishDems didn’t condemn the summer riots until polls came out showing the American people were sick of them. Not sure if I can find it, but Cuomo and Lemon talked about the polls one night and the next day Biden and other Dems finally condemned the summer violence. Not sure what the point of saying mostly peaceful is or how that’s judged but at the Capitol there were hundreds of thousands of peaceful people.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
There was mostly peaceful protesting and also senseless violence. Because you disagree with the BLM movement politically you're trying to discredit them by claiming the worst protests represent all the protests. Ironically, the same kind of strategy that racists use to discredit people of other races.
I've already given you tons of examples of people on the left condemning the violence, so stop pretending to be ignorant.
Most of Trumps speeches did not end in violence, the one on Jan 6th, his final speech, did. Dwai was making light of/downplaying the events of that day, so I called him out on it.
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Originally Posted by dwai
George Flloyd was killed on May 25th
Biden on May 29th:
People have a right to be, in fact, angry and frustrated. And more violence, hurting more people, isn’t going to answer the question.
May 31:
Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.
The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest. It should not drive people away from the just cause that protest is meant to advance.
June 2:
There is no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses.
We need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction.
[QUOTE=duped_samaritan;963045]Hey Gringo duped_samaritan, "There was mostly peaceful protesting and also senseless violence." WTF?!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The use of the term "mostly peaceful protest" is pure bullshit. The violence and lotting is not "mostly peaceful". Every time a black person gets killed is not supposed to be a sign that it's time to go shopping for a new free flat screen tv. So, let's put an end to that bullshit once and for all. Because, it just bullshit and it needs to stop. And until you libtards stop defending that bullshit, it will continue.
Na, you’re wrong. He may have initially said a couple things but then he shut the fuck up for months as the rioting continued. Joe Biden won the Dem nomination on June 6th then got real quiet about the rioting, probably didn’t want to piss off his far left and get canceled, a valid concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanYou're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishDems didn’t condemn the summer riots until polls came out showing the American people were sick of them. Not sure if I can find it, but Cuomo and Lemon talked about the polls one night and the next day Biden and other Dems finally condemned the summer violence. Not sure what the point of saying mostly peaceful is or how that’s judged but at the Capitol there were hundreds of thousands of peaceful people.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
George Flloyd was killed on May 25th
Biden on May 29th:
People have a right to be, in fact, angry and frustrated. And more violence, hurting more people, isn’t going to answer the question.
May 31:
Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.
The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest. It should not drive people away from the just cause that protest is meant to advance.
June 2:
There is no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses.
We need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction.
Then during the DNC the Dems avoided talking about the rioting and it showed up in polling so CNN told Biden he had to address it.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...for-democrats/
That segment was on 8/25/2020, notice Lemon even calls it rioting for the first time. I was actually watching live and about shit my pants, even posted about it in the Kenosha thread.
And then like magic, he releases a statement on ending the violence the very next day.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/biden-...lake-shooting/
From that day on he was far more active about condemning violence. It was political, all about the polls.
Give me a break dude. He won the nomination on Super Tuesday in March, nothing changed politically when he formally accepted it in June.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishNa, you’re wrong. He may have initially said a couple things but then he shut the fuck up for months as the rioting continued. Joe Biden won the Dem nomination on June 6th then got real quiet about the rioting, probably didn’t want to piss off his far left and get canceled, a valid concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanYou're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
George Flloyd was killed on May 25th
Biden on May 29th:
People have a right to be, in fact, angry and frustrated. And more violence, hurting more people, isn’t going to answer the question.
May 31:
Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.
The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest. It should not drive people away from the just cause that protest is meant to advance.
June 2:
There is no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses.
We need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction.
Then during the DNC the Dems avoided talking about the rioting and it showed up in polling so CNN told Biden he had to address it.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...for-democrats/
That segment was on 8/25/2020, notice Lemon even calls it rioting for the first time. I was actually watching live and about shit my pants, even posted about it in the Kenosha thread.
And then like magic, he releases a statement on ending the violence the very next day.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/biden-...lake-shooting/
From that day on he was far more active about condemning violence. It was political, all about the polls.
"Dems didn’t condemn the summer riots until polls came out showing the American people were sick of them." is a false statement. Period.
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Originally Posted by duped_samaritanGive me a break dude. He won the nomination on Super Tuesday in March, nothing changed politically when he formally accepted it in June.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishNa, you’re wrong. He may have initially said a couple things but then he shut the fuck up for months as the rioting continued. Joe Biden won the Dem nomination on June 6th then got real quiet about the rioting, probably didn’t want to piss off his far left and get canceled, a valid concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
Then during the DNC the Dems avoided talking about the rioting and it showed up in polling so CNN told Biden he had to address it.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...for-democrats/
That segment was on 8/25/2020, notice Lemon even calls it rioting for the first time. I was actually watching live and about shit my pants, even posted about it in the Kenosha thread.
And then like magic, he releases a statement on ending the violence the very next day.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/biden-...lake-shooting/
From that day on he was far more active about condemning violence. It was political, all about the polls.
"Dems didn’t condemn the summer riots until polls came out showing the American people were sick of them." is a false statement. Period.
You know, there would be no shame in saying something like "My bad, I didn't realize Biden had condemned the violence several times in May and June." Tons of shit has happened since then, it feels like 10 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanGive me a break dude. He won the nomination on Super Tuesday in March, nothing changed politically when he formally accepted it in June.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
"Dems didn’t condemn the summer riots until polls came out showing the American people were sick of them." is a false statement. Period.
Or you could just insist you were right anyway, throw a bunch of facts that don't support your original claim, maybe an insult and a meme and look like an idiot.
1) We aren't just talking about Biden. We are talking about the media, other Democratic politicians, and the general tone of regular Dems such as yourself. Almost all of it was excuse-making, denial, and blaming of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanYou're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishDems didn’t condemn the summer riots until polls came out showing the American people were sick of them. Not sure if I can find it, but Cuomo and Lemon talked about the polls one night and the next day Biden and other Dems finally condemned the summer violence. Not sure what the point of saying mostly peaceful is or how that’s judged but at the Capitol there were hundreds of thousands of peaceful people.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
George Flloyd was killed on May 25th
Biden on May 29th:
People have a right to be, in fact, angry and frustrated. And more violence, hurting more people, isn’t going to answer the question.
May 31:
Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not.
The act of protesting should never be allowed to overshadow the reason we protest. It should not drive people away from the just cause that protest is meant to advance.
June 2:
There is no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses.
We need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction.
2) Biden was very careful in these early statements NOT to call for the aggressive arrest and prosecution of rioters. Instead, he was gently begging everyone to stop. "There's no place for violence" doesn't equal condemnation, nor is it a call to action by law enforcement to end it. It's intentionally weak and permissive. Surely you're not so dumb to where you think the above statements were a "condemnation", right?
3) Kamala tweeted out a fund to bail out rioters who were arrested in Minnesota. That fund has since been used to bail out serial rapists and child molesters. Kamala has never apologized for directing people to donate to this fund, and has never explained why she was suggesting donations for a fund to help criminals destroying Minneapolis. Even the fund itself never promised to focus solely upon people they felt were wrongly arrested. It was to be used for anyone arrested during the protest who needed bail money, but then it extended to bail out horrendous sex offenders.
"Hey you guys weren't mad enough about the 'BLM riots' so now you don't get to be mad about our attempted insurrection"
Here's the what I was responding to:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
It's false. The poll was in August. Biden condemned the violence multiple times in May and June and called for the 'arsonists and anarchists' to be prosecuted in July, all before the poll he claimed was the only reason he 'finally condemned the violence'. This one is clear cut. The facts are the facts.Quote:
Cuomo and Lemon talked about the polls one night and the next day Biden and other Dems finally condemned the summer violence.
I think you said something similar about Pelosi in August/September, implying that it was the first time she had come out and condemned the violence.
It's just not true.
I could give you a long list of democrats condemning the violence before that, but what's the point? You could just google it yourself and find the numerous fact checks, but you don't believe fact checkers anymore and even if you did you'd just pivot away from the fact that you're wrong, like Kamala tweeting out the bail fund. Cool, valid criticism. Doesn't make it ok to make a bunch of other shit up.
So Joseph R. Biden, Democratic Presdiential nominee, took until JULY before calling for the arrest and prosecution for rioters? And you're okay with this?Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
Read that again. These are your own words, yet somehow you think Biden's super-weak avoidance of true condemnation of the rioters for OVER A MONTH was just fine.
Are you really going to sell us the claim that the left and the media were acting appalled by the violence, and loudly calling for it to stop? Because the exact opposite was occurring, and you know it.
"Hey you guys. You praised the burning down of our cities, the violent attacks on government buildings, police officers, and civilians, which occurred for months over the summer. You don't get to feign outrage over an invasion of the Capitol by a small group of people, which caused a tiny fraction of the pain, death, and destruction compared to the BLM riots."Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
Sounds about right, yes.
This statement is false:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffSo Joseph R. Biden, Democratic Presdiential nominee, took until JULY before calling for the arrest and prosecution for rioters? And you're okay with this?Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
Read that again. These are your own words, yet somehow you think Biden's super-weak avoidance of true condemnation of the rioters for OVER A MONTH was just fine.
Are you really going to sell us the claim that the left and the media were acting appalled by the violence, and loudly calling for it to stop? Because the exact opposite was occurring, and you know it.
That's what I'm selling you.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
What's the point of discussing opinions if you can't even recognize facts.
so much pearl clutchingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff"Hey you guys. You praised the burning down of our cities, the violent attacks on government buildings, police officers, and civilians, which occurred for months over the summer. You don't get to feign outrage over an invasion of the Capitol by a small group of people, which caused a tiny fraction of the pain, death, and destruction compared to the BLM riots."Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
Sounds about right, yes.
Hey you guys are getting away from the Thread topic, The hall monitor Carlos Frietas doesn't like that,
(Or I guess just when I do it)
I'm sure w/the Fox "News" 24/7 AOC coverage they covered this, right?
Just went to Foxnews.com, nothing about AOC, yesterday she was on the front page for 2 bad stories.
(That is propaganda, because if don't think everyone at fox saw this last night, you are lying to yourself like RW'ers usually do)
AOC uses her following for good, Trump uses his to grift.
Trump could've done this, or 'Flyin' Ted Cruz, or the one eyed hitman in a porno, etc etc etc.
But they didn't, & AOC did.
EDIT: Wrong tweet, she did get over a million by like 9 pm last night.
if right wingers here didn't whatabout everything arguments would be like 2 pages longQuote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
Also let me point out again the BLM protests did have some violence and some people died but for the most part they were peaceful protests of people coming together against police brutality. Comparing these to the capitol riots where people wanted to disrupt the democratic process and reinstall fuckhead as prez for life or whatever the fuck bullshit plan they wanted to enact is still disingenuous. Some of you people act like it was the wild west & people got away with looting and arson - no, they arrested over 14000 people. Did they catch every single person that committed an actual crime at the George Floyd protests? Probably not. But there are plenty of people sitting time right now for acting a fool and burning shit down/looting/murder/etc so it's not like anyone got a free pass.
Again, what do you guys think would have happened if the crowd would have reach AOC/Pelosi/Pence?
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That's right dwai even your son agreesQuote:
Originally Posted by dwaiQuote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
dangit you GOT meQuote:
Originally Posted by nunbeaterThat's right dwai even your son agreesQuote:
Originally Posted by dwai
If Biden was on top of it then why are Cuomo and Lemon saying he needs to address the violence in this video? Watch the video ffs. Dems were avoiding talking about it. When polls showed public opinion with changing regarding the riots, the Dems message also changed. Your revisionist history hilarious, like Dems were condemning this shit all along. They wouldn’t even admit the riots were riots, “mostly peaceful” remember? JFCQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanThis statement is false:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
That's what I'm selling you.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
What's the point of discussing opinions if you can't even recognize facts.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...for-democrats/
:thisQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishIf Biden was on top of it then why are Cuomo and Lemon saying he needs to address the violence in this video? Watch the video ffs. Dems were avoiding talking about it. When polls showed public opinion with changing regarding the riots, the Dems message also changed. Your revisionist history hilarious, like Dems were condemning this shit all along. They wouldn’t even admit the riots were riots, “mostly peaceful” remember? JFCQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
This statement is false:
That's what I'm selling you.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
What's the point of discussing opinions if you can't even recognize facts.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...for-democrats/
bro you're arguing with someone that immediately believed jussie and then when it was clear he made up the whole thing he doubled down.
but you've schooled him on this issue for real
The real question you should be asking yourself is if Biden condemned the violence multiple times, then why did you think that Biden and other Dems didn't condemn the BLM related violence until August? And why is it so difficult to admit you were wrong on something so obviously clear cut?Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishIf Biden was on top of it then why are Cuomo and Lemon saying he needs to address the violence in this video? Watch the video ffs. Dems were avoiding talking about it. When polls showed public opinion with changing regarding the riots, the Dems message also changed. Your revisionist history hilarious, like Dems were condemning this shit all along. They wouldn’t even admit the riots were riots, “mostly peaceful” remember? JFCQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
This statement is false:
That's what I'm selling you.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
What's the point of discussing opinions if you can't even recognize facts.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...for-democrats/
I can answer the first one. It's because of this guy:
It's because of the media you consume. You bought into one of Trumps many false narrative being pushed by memes and click bait right wing media that BLM protests are all violent, Biden and the Democrats are glad there was violence, they don't care about your freedom, if you don't vote for Trump they're going to grab your guns and take over the country violently. Socialism!\
You bought into it at the end of the summer, and again after Jan 6th.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN25V2O1
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...er/5706355002/
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...violence-blac/
https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-jo...164501432.html
UH OH GUYS, THE FACT CHECKERS SIDE WITH HIM, AND CNN AND ABC AND MSNBC AND HOLLYWOOD AND THE ATHLETES AND TWITTER AND FACEBOOK AND AMAZON AND APPLE AND GOOGLE, WOW WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT
You're pulling a Gimmick by trying to focus on some irrelevant detail instead of the big picture, thinking it proves your point. I already told you Biden may have made some comments at the very beginning but after he was confirmed June 6th he went dark on the subject for months, he was playing politics. Making a couple comments and taking a firm stance on something to well define your position are two different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanThe real question you should be asking yourself is if Biden condemned the violence multiple times, then why did you think that Biden and other Dems didn't condemn the BLM related violence until August? And why is it so difficult to admit you were wrong on something so obviously clear cut?Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishIf Biden was on top of it then why are Cuomo and Lemon saying he needs to address the violence in this video? Watch the video ffs. Dems were avoiding talking about it. When polls showed public opinion with changing regarding the riots, the Dems message also changed. Your revisionist history hilarious, like Dems were condemning this shit all along. They wouldn’t even admit the riots were riots, “mostly peaceful” remember? JFCQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020...for-democrats/
I can answer the first one. It's because of this guy:
It's because of the media you consume. You bought into one of Trumps many false narrative being pushed by memes and click bait right wing media that BLM protests are all violent, Biden and the Democrats are glad there was violence, they don't care about your freedom, if you don't vote for Trump they're going to grab your guns and take over the country violently. Socialism!\
You bought into it at the end of the summer, and again after Jan 6th.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN25V2O1
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...er/5706355002/
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...violence-blac/
https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-jo...164501432.html
Cuomo/Lemon, in the segment on 8/25/20, asked him to address the riots head on because the dems avoiding it was showing up as a negative in polling. Biden made a statement on video the very next day, 8/26/20, and did exactly that. You honestly think that's a coincidence? And Biden wasn't the only one many Dems did the same thing starting 8/26/20, they got the memo that the previous approach on dealing with the riots wasn't working. If he had taken that stance before, why would Cuomo/Lemon be on tv asking him to (have you watched it yet)? Why are you avoiding this question? They would have said something along the lines of, well Biden as been very strong and clear against the violence from the beginning but we need him to do more.
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Originally Posted by nightmarefish
:applause
It's worse than that.Quote:
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duped is refusing to address the fact that Biden's early "condemnations" weren't actual condemnations. It was more of the, "C'mon, man, don't burn things down!" variety. He did not call for the arrest and prosecution of those rioting. That part didn't come until more than a month later (in July), because of mounting pressure upon him from the nervous DNC. The fact that Biden took over a month to ACTUALLY condemn the rioting speaks volumes. This should be something that happens on day 1.
duped posting all of the highly-biased "fact checks" about the matter won't change that.
duped, all of the major fact-checking organizations are exclusively staffed by people as far left as you. They refuse transparency, and in fact none of them can name a single true right-winger on their staff. None will disclose their process or how they are able to check on political matters without a bias getting in the way. It's a complete joke. I would hate it if fact checkers were all right wingers, because I wouldn't ever get the truth. Why are you okay with these left wing fact checkers having a monopoly on determining "facts"?
You guys can try all you want to justify spreading misinformation. It doesn't change the actual facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffIt's worse than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
duped is refusing to address the fact that Biden's early "condemnations" weren't actual condemnations. It was more of the, "C'mon, man, don't burn things down!" variety. He did not call for the arrest and prosecution of those rioting. That part didn't come until more than a month later (in July), because of mounting pressure upon him from the nervous DNC. The fact that Biden took over a month to ACTUALLY condemn the rioting speaks volumes. This should be something that happens on day 1.
duped posting all of the highly-biased "fact checks" about the matter won't change that.
duped, all of the major fact-checking organizations are exclusively staffed by people as far left as you. They refuse transparency, and in fact none of them can name a single true right-winger on their staff. None will disclose their process or how they are able to check on political matters without a bias getting in the way. It's a complete joke. I would hate it if fact checkers were all right wingers, because I wouldn't ever get the truth. Why are you okay with these left wing fact checkers having a monopoly on determining "facts"?
If you want to be taken seriously and discuss the way Democrats handled violence over the summer with someone who disagrees with you, don't base your argument on a lie. Otherwise, enjoy your echo chamber.
"Biden didn't condemn the violence until after the polls were released in August"
*confronted with multiple examples of Biden condemning the violence before August*
"stop trying to focus on some irrelevant detail!"
"fact checkers are bias!!!!"
give me a break
I imagine you're a real treat at parties, god what an insufferable faggot you areQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanYou guys can try all you want to justify spreading misinformation. It doesn't change the actual facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If you want to be taken seriously and discuss the way Democrats handled violence over the summer with someone who disagrees with you, don't base your argument on a lie. Otherwise, enjoy your echo chamber.
"Biden didn't condemn the violence until after the polls were released in August"
*confronted with multiple examples of Biden condemning the violence before August*
"stop trying to focus on some irrelevant detail!"
"fact checkers are bias!!!!"
give me a break
Why are Cuomo/Lemon on tv 8/25/20 saying Biden needs to address the violence head on if he was already doing so? Why did he listen to them the very next day? Why do you keep avoiding this question?Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanYou guys can try all you want to justify spreading misinformation. It doesn't change the actual facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If you want to be taken seriously and discuss the way Democrats handled violence over the summer with someone who disagrees with you, don't base your argument on a lie. Otherwise, enjoy your echo chamber.
"Biden didn't condemn the violence until after the polls were released in August"
*confronted with multiple examples of Biden condemning the violence before August*
"stop trying to focus on some irrelevant detail!"
"fact checkers are bias!!!!"
give me a break
I'll help you with the answer, from June to August public support for the protests/rioting dropped 10 points according to polls that came out that day and dems acting weak regarding the situation was hurting them. Cuomo and Lemon pointed this out and Biden listened.
LMFAO at you trying to act like Biden or anyone on the left was tough on the rioters from the beginning. They were supporting them for the most part, Harris was helping bail them out of jail.