Perfect cover story. But you have to feign outrage next time you are asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I think you are plug comparable with this enterprise. All the boxes are checked. It is a rare moment in life when all your skills, experience and contacts align with opportunity.
I wish you nothing but luck but I doubt you will need it.
We do, so this is what puts me in such an odd position with this huge story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddlydon't they have an agreement not to talk about each other?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I can't just pretend it doesn't exist. I have intentionally steered clear of other more minor Seals-related topics in the past, but this is huge and I can't just act like it's not happening.
Also, in summer 2014, I got multiple reports that Micon was talking shit behind my back to various people at the WSOP. Like, he wasn't going around trying to bring my name up, but if someone said anything about me (usually not realizing we weren't friends anymore), they got an earful of nasty stuff.
In response, I made an Alvin Finklestein post in August which essentially said that Seals was illegal and the owner would eventually get busted. Micon immediately made an angry phone call to me, demanding I take it down. I told him that I did it in response to his unprovoked June/July shit talk about me. After a very contentious phone call, I agreed to take down the Finklestein post, and he re-agreed to stop talking shit about me.
Anyway point being that I don't feel like I'm doing something awful by commenting on this very large and public story, and I think I've been very fair with my assessments and commentary. I'm not going to talk shit about Micon, but I will give my thoughts on the Seals situation itself, especially because this site always comments on matters like these, and it would be irresponsible for me to ignore it.
No radio interview on the horizon then.
The "I'm a peaceful man with a family. They could have easily just called me or knocked on my door. No reason to bust my door down and hold me at gunpoint in front of my family" is about as meaningless a justification and defense as there is. This does not justify anything. It literally means squadush in the eyes of the law.
As an example: Back when Vegas had dispensaries operating under grey areas of the law, they were all raided by a large task force. Businesses with glass fronts, during business hours, were subjected to raids where the doors were literally beaten down with battering rams, and the doors were unlocked. All the dispensary owners said the same thing as Micon, crying how they would have peacefully allowed police to conduct the raids and how they had sick people and innocent workers in the dispensaries at the time that were scared to death by the police tactics. In the end all the dispensary owners were charged with federal crimes and a lot of them went to jail. It literally meant nothing how the police conducted the raids. All that is good for is a woe is me type of story. Courts don't give a shit that the police or whoever were unjustified in how they conducted their raids.
Im sure Randy Weaver said the same thing at some point.
You know who would be great to hear from on this? Chad ElieQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffWe do, so this is what puts me in such an odd position with this huge story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
I can't just pretend it doesn't exist. I have intentionally steered clear of other more minor Seals-related topics in the past, but this is huge and I can't just act like it's not happening.
Also, in summer 2014, I got multiple reports that Micon was talking shit behind my back to various people at the WSOP. Like, he wasn't going around trying to bring my name up, but if someone said anything about me (usually not realizing we weren't friends anymore), they got an earful of nasty stuff.
In response, I made an Alvin Finklestein post in August which essentially said that Seals was illegal and the owner would eventually get busted. Micon immediately made an angry phone call to me, demanding I take it down. I told him that I did it in response to his unprovoked June/July shit talk about me. After a very contentious phone call, I agreed to take down the Finklestein post, and he re-agreed to stop talking shit about me.
Anyway point being that I don't feel like I'm doing something awful by commenting on this very large and public story, and I think I've been very fair with my assessments and commentary. I'm not going to talk shit about Micon, but I will give my thoughts on the Seals situation itself, especially because this site always comments on matters like these, and it would be irresponsible for me to ignore it.
Looking forward to awkward podcast
Given his posture regarding Micon, the clever host gets people on the broadcast who will say what you would rather not.Quote:
Originally Posted by blubbernuffle
Does Micon have some nudes of you or something, Druff? WTF on the refusal to say how you feel. Fuck Micon. He isn't even allowed in the country anymore. Tell the world how your feel and be honest about. Stop being a bitch.
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Originally Posted by Pooh
Pretty sure they actually have a written contract outlining they can't bad mouth each other.
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Originally Posted by Dan DruffWe do, so this is what puts me in such an odd position with this huge story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
I can't just pretend it doesn't exist. I have intentionally steered clear of other more minor Seals-related topics in the past, but this is huge and I can't just act like it's not happening.
Also, in summer 2014, I got multiple reports that Micon was talking shit behind my back to various people at the WSOP. Like, he wasn't going around trying to bring my name up, but if someone said anything about me (usually not realizing we weren't friends anymore), they got an earful of nasty stuff.
In response, I made an Alvin Finklestein post in August which essentially said that Seals was illegal and the owner would eventually get busted. Micon immediately made an angry phone call to me, demanding I take it down. I told him that I did it in response to his unprovoked June/July shit talk about me. After a very contentious phone call, I agreed to take down the Finklestein post, and he re-agreed to stop talking shit about me.
Anyway point being that I don't feel like I'm doing something awful by commenting on this very large and public story, and I think I've been very fair with my assessments and commentary. I'm not going to talk shit about Micon, but I will give my thoughts on the Seals situation itself, especially because this site always comments on matters like these, and it would be irresponsible for me to ignore it.
I say you are off the hook here because you can freely talk about Seals With Clubs without getting personal with Micon.
No, we don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBetQuote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
Pretty sure they actually have a written contract outlining they can't bad mouth each other.
We can all agree on this:
Micon's an absolute genius at getting in early.
He got in etrading stocks early.
He got into poker forums early.
He got into internet radio shows early
He got in poker training programs early
He got into Bitcoins early as fuck.
He got into to online Bitcoin poker early
He got into drones sort of early haha.
and who knows what else..
Took some fucking balls to lock horns and cut ties with Druff and then Drexel and probably a couple other notable figures like he did.
Took some balls to run a post black friday US poker site in Nevada.
Took some balls to haul ass to Antigua and likely reopen after the raid.
Wonder how this story will end.
Next Calvin Ayre or the next Bernie Madoff, place your bets.
Pending charges and perma leaving the USA has to way heavy on his mind.
Good luck...
You got into hanging off his nuts early. Jesus Christ dude. Shut it the fuck down.Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
As someone who played on both sealswithclubs and gridpoker. I really wish the whole *look at me I'm Micon the icon* was never a part of any of this. Seeing the grid software brought to the seals player base is really exiting. Bitcoin poker doesn't need a fucking idiot rock-star. That being said. I hope this idiot rock-star can make it work out of my own selfish interest.
personally i dont think its outside the realms of possibility that there is no backers and team, its just micon going it alone.
in his jew eyes hes taking this as an opportunity to go from 50% owner to sole proprietor. he only has to get half as much traffic to make the same amount of money.
we already know swc 2.0 software was practically refined to the point of complete and gifted to him by the other owner who walked away, we know they had a beta server with swc 2.0 running. swcpoker.eu points to the beta server and off he goes.
he'll be thinking to himself when he has to do bug fixes or updates he'll hire some chinese/indian freelance coder
Did Martha tell you that???Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom
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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
Next stop gonna be the show : I almost got away with it. He would have a much better chance if he was licensed.
Gank played on SWC some and seemed pretty broke, talked about living in Cali @ some hostileQuote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZOMore likely is Dutch GANK AND STEALTHMONKEY a far cry from whoever FREEMONEY was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
(guess he's always got those 20 acres of oceanfront property in the middle of Idaho).
Dutch rarely played of recent on SWC (at least under the "Dutch" screen name).
Dutch did just bink $288,000 something @ WSOP circa '14.
http://i.imgur.com/856N3FX.jpg?1
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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
There is a big hole in this narrative; its one thing to get into these things early, its another to do it right.
People who do it right have minimal exposure and maximum returns. Micon's theme song seems to be maximum exposure, minimal returns.