i forget who but this goes out to which ever one of you rust jockeys thought the market was healthy
https://news.vice.com/story/its-begi...tm_source=dmfb
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i forget who but this goes out to which ever one of you rust jockeys thought the market was healthy
https://news.vice.com/story/its-begi...tm_source=dmfb
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2198...ampaign=buffer
shit is getting super weird.
so apparently hillary won colorado right. and the faithless electors elsewhere dont want to vote for trump right.
apparently the electors got together and said 'look lets just all get together and vote for some other republican instead of either trump or clinton', and even electors tasked with voting for hillary are getting on board now.
and on the one hand i certainly understand the logic but on the other hand, is there a republican candidate that comes close to representing the agenda our nations fuckup-caste voted for?
even tho a colorado judge shot down that whole concept yesterday, this shit isnt over by a damned site.
Also remember that survey that got sent to the Department of Energy demanding they give a list of names for people who 'believed in climate change'?
Yeah that was Bannon and he did it without asking anyone.
It really has to roil the left to see Trump sitting down with every tech giant out there. I mean, you know when the Chairman of Apple comes to see you, you know you are the fucking Boss. I remember Tim Cook admonishing people in one of his speeches last year saying that if you do not embrace climate change legislation, do not buy Apple Stock, how is that working for you now Tim? Did you happen to bump into Steve Bannon in the elevator?
If the left thinks its bad now, wait until Trump picks two or three SCOTUS justices in his term. That will be the ultimate epic meltdown. Even if he loses in 2020, it won't matter, given the age of the current Court, there is a very high probability Donald J Trump will set the Supreme Court for a generation. And nobody can do anything about it because there is probably a 90% chance the Republicans keep the Senate in 2018 given the fact most are Democratic seats that are up.
Donald Trump is not only the most influential political figure in a generation, he is poised to reshape this country for decades. It's a sea of Red out there from the Presidency to County Council.
Nothing can stop the Trump Revolution. I strongly suggest those that cannot fathom Trump for 4-8 years, move to another country. Why torture yourself? And if the economy holds serve Trump stays for 8 full years, paving the way for Mike Pence which will cause the left to fondly remember the good old days of Trump.
it's comical that you think that it's only "the left" that hates trump. newsflash -- he won the election on his proctectionist trade message, which was to the left of hillary and is about as anti-conservative and anti-free trade as it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Draymond
we'll see what happens when he actually tries to pass any of the things he campaigned on, if he even tries... no wall, no trade tariffs, no prosecuting hillary -- none of it. i don't even think the iran nuclear deal or obamacare will be ripped up. at best, he'll renegotiate the iran deal and "tweak it", acting like it's a win.
will the trump supporters in this thread, who don't seem to be ideologically conservative, be happy when nothing he promised happens? or will they be happy if he just goes full conservative? i doubt it.
the only thing he'll probably do is lower my tax rate, so thanks trump
I think you will see an Energy revolution under Trump as regulations and Climate bullshit legislation will be eliminated. I could easily see a world 4 years from now awash in cheap oil like $15 a barrel, which be will sold to third world shitholes so they can provide basic services.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeit's comical that you think that it's only "the left" that hates trump. newsflash -- he won the election on his proctectionist trade message, which was to the left of hillary and is about as anti-conservative and anti-free trade as it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Draymond
we'll see what happens when he actually tries to pass any of the things he campaigned on, if he even tries... no wall, no trade tariffs, no prosecuting hillary -- none of it. i don't even think the iran nuclear deal or obamacare will be ripped up. at best, he'll renegotiate the iran deal and "tweak it", acting like it's a win.
will the trump supporters in this thread, who don't seem to be ideologically conservative, be happy when nothing he promised happens? or will they be happy if he just goes full conservative? i doubt it.
the only thing he'll probably do is lower my tax rate, so thanks trump
And Trump is smart, he only needs new factories in like 3 states all in the midwest, so he can negotiate that, its a pittance in the grand scheme of things. That locks up his rustbelt base.
He will lock in the social conservatives by picking a right wing SCOTUS justice(s). He needs to pick the most conservative justice possible in January, that way he checks that box.
The only thing that can derail Trump is a systemic failure in the economy, which could easily happen. We are due for a huge recession to cleanse the sins from the last 20 years. If that happens he will probably not win another term. And if the economy tanks he probably will announce he is not running anyway and focusing on stripping away as many regulations as possible and reshaping the judicial system.
HEY IDIOT, CAN YOU DO US ALL A FAVOR AND NOT CITE FUCKING VICE.COM FOR FINANCIAL NEWS? JESUS CHRIST, YOU ARE WAY BETTER THAN THAT.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
opec is already taking steps to see to it that the price of oil is going to rise, and trump won't be able to change that. and as far as the supreme court justice, i think you're probably right that he'll choose a true conservative, but keep in mind that we're talking about a narcissist who has been a lifelong liberal. also remember that his lead advisor, ivanka, is very likely pro choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by DraymondI think you will see an Energy revolution under Trump as regulations and Climate bullshit legislation will be eliminated. I could easily see a world 4 years from now awash in cheap oil like $15 a barrel, which be will sold to third world shitholes so they can provide basic services.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
And Trump is smart, he only needs new factories in like 3 states all in the midwest, so he can negotiate that, its a pittance in the grand scheme of things. That locks up his rustbelt base.
He will lock in the social conservatives by picking a right wing SCOTUS justice(s). He needs to pick the most conservative justice possible in January, that way he checks that box.
The only thing that can derail Trump is a systemic failure in the economy, which could easily happen. We are due for a huge recession to cleanse the sins from the last 20 years. If that happens he will probably not win another term. And if the economy tanks he probably will announce he is not running anyway and focusing on stripping away as many regulations as possible and reshaping the judicial system.
OPEC has no staying power any more outside a press release. It's symbolic. They all cheat on each other, and fracking has changed the game. If OPEC operated as a unified bloc you'd have a point. But they have not for a long time. Remember the OPEC countries all hate each other now.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakeopec is already taking steps to see to it that the price of oil is going to rise, and trump won't be able to change that. and as far as the supreme court justice, i think you're probably right that he'll choose a true conservative, but keep in mind that we're talking about a narcissist who has been a lifelong liberal. also remember that his lead advisor, ivanka, is very likely pro choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by Draymond
Trump is going to unlock the shale. It's no coincidence he has Tillerson where he is. He needs to keep the peace. I'll bump this thread at $20 a barrel in a couple years. About a $1.40 gallon gas prices.
If and when the earth melts 2000 years from now, Antarctica will be a tropical paradise, the oil companies can start drilling there. If you believe the Left, the planet will be molten lava at that point and we will be all dead so it won't matter, so enjoy cheap fuel under Trump while you can.
Do you know what's coming up in 2018?
11:25 It just gets worse and worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRkqYuv3_8
Global warming is long-term, but you can say goodbye to your drinking water and the stability of the ground beneath your feet right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DraymondOPEC has no staying power any more outside a press release. It's symbolic. They all cheat on each other, and fracking has changed the game. If OPEC operated as a unified bloc you'd have a point. But they have not for a long time. Remember the OPEC countries all hate each other now.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
Trump is going to unlock the shale. It's no coincidence he has Tillerson where he is. He needs to keep the peace. I'll bump this thread at $20 a barrel in a couple years. About a $1.40 gallon gas prices.
If and when the earth melts 2000 years from now, Antarctica will be a tropical paradise, the oil companies can start drilling there. If you believe the Left, the planet will be molten lava at that point and we will be all dead so it won't matter, so enjoy cheap fuel under Trump while you can.
Good to know, I will buy some aquatic gear to get ready. In the interim, hopefully gas prices get to $1 a gallon under Trump. It will help the poor quite a bit when the sea levels rise. They can buy jet skis.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerGlobal warming is long-term, but you can say goodbye to your drinking water and the stability of the ground beneath your feet right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Draymond
They can jet ski behind your yacht all the way to Perth.Quote:
Originally Posted by DraymondGood to know, I will buy some aquatic gear to get ready. In the interim, hopefully gas prices get to $1 a gallon under Trump. It will help the poor quite a bit when the sea levels rise. They can buy jet skis.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek
GO COMPLETELY OFF THE DEEP END MUCH??
Finding some great stuff around page 140Quote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOvenQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
This is why you have Trump, Republicans. Trump thinks he is winning, and so does Sad Dish and all the Nut Lows. Remember, polls are science, and science to these people is some strange voodoo from libtard Harvard eggheads that don't know what it's like in Real 'Merica.
The more smart people say Trump is losing, the more they think he is winning. This is how they have been brainwashed.
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Originally Posted by thesidedish
Nice I was looking for this one
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that is some scary stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
edit- I just saw that gay canadian dj say the site not reputable...
Hopefully he is correct
I only made it to $15 a barrel of oil and just could not stop laughing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DraymondI think you will see an Energy revolution under Trump as regulations and Climate bullshit legislation will be eliminated. I could easily see a world 4 years from now awash in cheap oil like $15 a barrel, which be will sold to third world shitholes so they can provide basic services.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
And Trump is smart, he only needs new factories in like 3 states all in the midwest, so he can negotiate that, its a pittance in the grand scheme of things. That locks up his rustbelt base.
He will lock in the social conservatives by picking a right wing SCOTUS justice(s). He needs to pick the most conservative justice possible in January, that way he checks that box.
The only thing that can derail Trump is a systemic failure in the economy, which could easily happen. We are due for a huge recession to cleanse the sins from the last 20 years. If that happens he will probably not win another term. And if the economy tanks he probably will announce he is not running anyway and focusing on stripping away as many regulations as possible and reshaping the judicial system.
What planet are you from? You know who is the sos... an oilman from texas. If you think oil will be 15 bucks a barrel you are out of your mind.
It will be a $100 before it will seee $30 again.
Your honda will be 60 bucks to fill up just like when Bush was in office.
15LOLOL
I CAN not stop laughing'
And here I was thinking you were probably pretty sharp
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LOOOOOOOOOOOL THAT WAS GREAT. WAS THAT MOBY IN THERE? FUCKING HOLLYWOOD. ODDS THAT ANY OF THOSE HOLLYWOOD CREEPS KNEW HOW THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WORKED BEFORE THEY LOST AND BECAME CRY BABIES?
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Originally Posted by big dick
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this is what I do with dupes
you been on it for a while faggot
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You gotta be kidding. He's gonna do some reshaping all right. Because after this shit-show, every nazi fuck has come out of the woodwork and now we can do with them what the germans did with the 3rd reich. OUTLAW THEM. that's right. Shit like this wouldn't fly there, because being a racist nazi fuck like most of you Trump idiots here is ILLEGAL there (and before you suggest i move there, go fuck yourself).
I urge you to read up on what happened to the fascists of the 30's and 40's, there's a reason why they're either DEAD, or in the case of Fidel, we put them in so much fucking economic hurt they don't matter anymore.
So enjoy the next 4 years. it SURE AS FUCK won't be 8. Did you see the fucking popular vote? it was BLUE. this country won't be seeing a red president for a long fucking time after this head shaker. Next election cycle, people are going to vote, and they're gonna vote this trash out.
To be fair to Big Dick, he was already eviscerated as the biggest dope in this thread the day after election day. To his credit, he did acknowledge he was a total fucking mong and did acknowledge every prediction he made were spectacularly failed. He has gone back off the deep end recently, which is actually funny for most. When we get tired of watching the same talking heads melt down on CNN every day, we simply come to this thread for a change of pace. It's the gift that keeps on giving.Quote:
Originally Posted by dick:lol2Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
:lol2
You do realize most Germans from the 1930s would be nearly 100-110 now if alive?Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryLafferQuote:
Originally Posted by Draymond
You gotta be kidding. He's gonna do some reshaping all right. Because after this shit-show, every nazi fuck has come out of the woodwork and now we can do with them what the germans did with the 3rd reich. OUTLAW THEM. that's right. Shit like this wouldn't fly there, because being a racist nazi fuck like most of you Trump idiots here is ILLEGAL there (and before you suggest i move there, go fuck yourself).
I urge you to read up on what happened to the fascists of the 30's and 40's, there's a reason why they're either DEAD, or in the case of Fidel, we put them in so much fucking economic hurt they don't matter anymore.
So enjoy the next 4 years. it SURE AS FUCK won't be 8. Did you see the fucking popular vote? it was BLUE. this country won't be seeing a red president for a long fucking time after this head shaker. Next election cycle, people are going to vote, and they're gonna vote this trash out.
As Trump puts together what seems to be one of the most radical, extreme right wing cabals in modern times.
Lets remind ourselves we still dodged a bullet. Look how radical Ted Cruz and his supporters really are (coughdruffcough). Cruz knows these guys, this is his base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVsg7n1N3Bk
Cliffs: They believe Trump and Bibi and all their cronies and left wing, seriously.
The start and then at 16 thru to the end but the whole thing is revealing. He also makes some good points too.
They are reading off of cue cards, they probably still have no clue what the Electoral College is or how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmoneyQuote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
LOOOOOOOOOOOL THAT WAS GREAT. WAS THAT MOBY IN THERE? FUCKING HOLLYWOOD. ODDS THAT ANY OF THOSE HOLLYWOOD CREEPS KNEW HOW THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WORKED BEFORE THEY LOST AND BECAME CRY BABIES?
I've had what alcoholics call a moment of clarity.
I thought that the Military Industrial Complex and Israel have been teaming up and fucking the American taxpayers hardcore. But after listening to the complaints from the far right Israel supporters outside of corporate influence aka the MSM it's a bit more complex.
It's pretty clear that the leadership in Israel is loyal to the MIC too, even at the expense of the long term well being of their fellow countrymen. I didn't think the leadership of Israel would put the MIC's goals first too. Then I started hearing about Bibi selling submarines to Germany amid controversy etc. That's why there's never a reasonable solution put up that would endanger perpetual war and defense spending. That's also why Iran must be stopped from getting nukes. It's not because they would use them on Israel, it's because that would make perpetual war to dangerous.
There's no way Iran's as radical as nuclear Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. Pakistan got busted hiding Bin Laden wtf and the Saudi's and maybe even Israel were involved in or knew about 911 and they're all considered allies but we're supposed to be worried about Iran. Don't fall for that shit.
We have to get money out of politics.
You are just not very smart are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
The real reason there's a push for anyone but Trump.
Look who else is involved.
2 or 3 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJH-fkJQC9k
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Originally Posted by thesidedishFinding some great stuff around page 140Quote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOven
This thread is god!
THE SIDEGOD IS GOD!
Seriously tho, is toaster oven still alive?
:lol2Quote:
Originally Posted by DraymondTo be fair to Big Dick, he was already eviscerated as the biggest dope in this thread the day after election day. To his credit, he did acknowledge he was a total fucking mong and did acknowledge every prediction he made were spectacularly failed. He has gone back off the deep end recently, which is actually funny for most. When we get tired of watching the same talking heads melt down on CNN every day, we simply come to this thread for a change of pace. It's the gift that keeps on giving.Quote:
Originally Posted by dick
He's irish, it's not in his nature to stfu.
$15 a barrelQuote:
Originally Posted by DraymondTo be fair to Big Dick, he was already eviscerated as the biggest dope in this thread the day after election day. To his credit, he did acknowledge he was a total fucking mong and did acknowledge every prediction he made were spectacularly failed. He has gone back off the deep end recently, which is actually funny for most. When we get tired of watching the same talking heads melt down on CNN every day, we simply come to this thread for a change of pace. It's the gift that keeps on giving.Quote:
Originally Posted by dick
:lol
Article posted on Drudge today:
"U.S. dollar strongest since 2003"
YUP
The downside of a strong dollar is that it makes American goods less competitive in overseas markets, and puts pressure on the manufacturing jobs Trump had promised to bring back. You realize this, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyde
look he's not even president yet, lets give him a chance is all im saying.
hey jace when its time to get on the frump train we'll let you know
While it might be beneficial for our Secretary of Energy to have not failed general chemistry in college, it's certainly not a requirement. And we know this because Rick Perry didn't not fail general chemistry in college. And he's going to be Secretary of energy. But didn't Obama also have a dumb guy as Secretary of Energy? Not that guy ^ he's clearly very intelligent. But the one before him... the first one?
Oh, well nevermind. I forgot.Quote:
Obama’s first Secretary of Energy was Steven Chu — a Nobel Prize winning physicist who is currently the Professor of Physics and Professor of Molecular & Cellular Physiology at Stanford University. He has a B.A. in Math, a B.S. in Physics, and a Ph.D. in Physics from Berkeley.
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/399...rry-oops-o.gif
But my point stands; Rick Perry doesn't need education for his position. It's called the Secretary of Energy not the Secretary of Education lol. Obviously if it was the Secretary of Education you'd want that person to be educated.
Trump's pick, Betsy Devos, also went to college.Quote:
Obama’s current Secretary of Education, John King Jr., has a B.A. from Harvard, a master’s degree and doctorate from Columbia, and a law degree from Yale.
She has a bachelor’s degree in polysci from Calvin College.
From a conservative talk radio host.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/15/op...f=opinion&_r=0
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MILWAUKEE — After nearly 25 years, I’m stepping down from my daily conservative talk radio show at the end of this month. I’m not leaving because of the rise of Donald J. Trump (my reasons are personal), but I have to admit that the campaign has made my decision easier. The conservative media is broken and the conservative movement deeply compromised.
In April, after Mr. Trump decisively lost the Wisconsin Republican primary, I had hoped that we here in the Midwest would turn out to be a firewall of rationality. Our political culture was distinctly inhospitable to Mr. Trump’s divisive, pugilistic style; the conservatives who had been successful here had tended to be serious, reform-oriented and able to express their ideas in more than 140 characters. But in November, Wisconsin lined up with the rest of the Rust Belt to give the presidency to Mr. Trump.
How on earth did that happen?
Before this year, I thought I had a relatively solid grasp on what conservatism stood for and where it was going. Over the previous decade, I helped advance the careers of conservatives like House Speaker Paul D. Ryan; Gov. Scott Walker; Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee; and Senator Ron Johnson. In 2010, conservatives won big majorities in the Wisconsin State Legislature, and I openly supported many of their reforms, including changes to collective bargaining and expansions of school choice.
In short, I was under the impression that conservatives actually believed things about free trade, balanced budgets, character and respect for constitutional rights. Then along came this campaign.
On the surface, the explanations for Mr. Trump’s improbable win in Wisconsin are simple enough: He won big margins in rural, blue-collar counties and won the pivotal Green Bay area by double digits. But he underperformed Mitt Romney in the vote-rich Milwaukee suburbs and ended up getting fewer votes in victory than Mr. Romney received in his 2012 defeat. Hillary Clinton, however, got about 39,000 fewer votes in heavily Democratic Milwaukee County than President Obama did four years earlier. Democrats simply stayed home, though that is obviously not the whole story.
That is what I saw, and this is what it might mean for the future of conservatism. When I wrote in August 2015 that Mr. Trump was a cartoon version of every left-wing media stereotype of the reactionary, nativist, misogynist right, I thought that I was well within the mainstream of conservative thought — only to find conservative Trump critics denounced for apostasy by a right that decided that it was comfortable with embracing Trumpism. But in Wisconsin, conservative voters seemed to reject what Mr. Trump was selling, at least until after the convention.
To be sure, some of my callers embraced Mr. Trump’s suggestion for a ban on Muslims entering the country and voiced support for a proposal to deport all Muslims — even citizens. One caller compared American Muslims to rabid dogs. But right to the end, relatively few of my listeners bought into the crude nativism Mr. Trump was selling at his rallies.
What they did buy into was the argument that this was a “binary choice.” No matter how bad Mr. Trump was, my listeners argued, he could not possibly be as bad as Mrs. Clinton. You simply cannot overstate this as a factor in the final outcome. As our politics have become more polarized, the essential loyalties shift from ideas, to parties, to tribes, to individuals. Nothing else ultimately matters.
In this binary tribal world, where everything is at stake, everything is in play, there is no room for quibbles about character, or truth, or principles. If everything — the Supreme Court, the fate of Western civilization, the survival of the planet — depends on tribal victory, then neither individuals nor ideas can be determinative. I watched this play out in real time, as conservatives who fully understood the threat that Mr. Trump posed succumbed to the argument about the Supreme Court. As even Mr. Ryan discovered, neutrality was not acceptable; if you were not for Mr. Trump, then you were for Mrs. Clinton.
The state of our politics also explains why none of the revelations, outrages or gaffes seemed to dent Mr. Trump’s popularity.
In this political universe, voters accept that they must tolerate bizarre behavior, dishonesty, crudity and cruelty, because the other side is always worse; the stakes are such that no qualms can get in the way of the greater cause.
For many listeners, nothing was worse than Hillary Clinton. Two decades of vilification had taken their toll: Listeners whom I knew to be decent, thoughtful individuals began forwarding stories with conspiracy theories about President Obama and Mrs. Clinton — that he was a secret Muslim, that she ran a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor. When I tried to point out that such stories were demonstrably false, they generally refused to accept evidence that came from outside their bubble. The echo chamber had morphed into a full-blown alternate reality silo of conspiracy theories, fake news and propaganda.
And this is where it became painful. Even among Republicans who had no illusions about Mr. Trump’s character or judgment, the demands of that tribal loyalty took precedence. To resist was an act of betrayal.
When it became clear that I was going to remain #NeverTrump, conservatives I had known and worked with for more than two decades organized boycotts of my show. One prominent G.O.P. activist sent out an email blast calling me a “Judas goat,” and calling for postelection retribution. As the summer turned to fall, I knew that I was losing listeners and said so publicly.
And then, there was social media. Unless you have experienced it, it’s difficult to describe the virulence of the Twitter storms that were unleashed on Trump skeptics. In my timelines, I found myself called a “cuckservative,” a favorite gibe of white nationalists; and someone Photoshopped my face into a gas chamber. Under the withering fire of the trolls, one conservative commentator and Republican political leader after another fell in line.
How had we gotten here?
One staple of every radio talk show was, of course, the bias of the mainstream media. This was, indeed, a target-rich environment. But as we learned this year, we had succeeded in persuading our audiences to ignore and discount any information from the mainstream media. Over time, we’d succeeded in delegitimizing the media altogether — all the normal guideposts were down, the referees discredited.
That left a void that we conservatives failed to fill. For years, we ignored the birthers, the racists, the truthers and other conspiracy theorists who indulged fantasies of Mr. Obama’s secret Muslim plot to subvert Christendom, or who peddled baseless tales of Mrs. Clinton’s murder victims. Rather than confront the purveyors of such disinformation, we changed the channel because, after all, they were our allies, whose quirks could be allowed or at least ignored.
We destroyed our own immunity to fake news, while empowering the worst and most reckless voices on the right.
This was not mere naïveté. It was also a moral failure, one that now lies at the heart of the conservative movement even in its moment of apparent electoral triumph. Now that the election is over, don’t expect any profiles in courage from the Republican Party pushing back against those trends; the gravitational pull of our binary politics is too strong.
I’m only glad I’m not going to be a part of it anymore.