So coronavirus is definitely going to kill a few of us.

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04-25-2020, 03:27 PM
JimmyG_415

Look who is taking his ball and going home again.

Yeah, it’s the real news that is the problem, by asking him about facts,
by quoting him directly, and by playing him unedited.
If CNN or MSNBC cut away, go to CSPAN, you can always get the full presser if you want.

Yeah women are too emotional for politics.
And the ratings? WTF we are all stuck at home, craving any good info.

He should've taken his cue from the one w/Target, CVS & Walmart.
Even if that was BS, at the time, the way the stock market jumped should have told him
how to get out of the hole he was in, BY CALLING IT A HOAX

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04-25-2020, 03:29 PM
blake

i was really counting on trump continuing those daily news conferences for my bet with tellafriend.

the world is conspiring against me.
04-25-2020, 03:31 PM
sonatine

serious question; do anyone think trump knows that hes lying?

like when he said 'deborah what are your thoughts on chugging bleach to kill the virus' or whatever and then the next day said he was being sarcastic and then the next day said he was talking to someone who wasnt in the room, do you think he consciously knew he was lying or did he literally 're-remember' things to fit the narrative he needed to retain a sense of control/sanity/whatever.

because and this is 100% true i once new an actual honest to god clinical NPD sufferer and that person would 100% not remember things how they happened pretty much whenever the way things happened looked bad for that person.
04-25-2020, 04:16 PM
MumblesBadly

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Originally Posted by sonatine

serious question; do anyone think trump knows that hes lying?

like when he said 'deborah what are your thoughts on chugging bleach to kill the virus' or whatever and then the next day said he was being sarcastic and then the next day said he was talking to someone who wasnt in the room, do you think he consciously knew he was lying or did he literally 're-remember' things to fit the narrative he needed to retain a sense of control/sanity/whatever.

because and this is 100% true i once new an actual honest to god clinical NPD sufferer and that person would 100% not remember things how they happened pretty much whenever the way things happened looked bad for that person.

Trump knows he’s lying, but just doesn’t care. Unlike someone with some sense of internal moral compass, Trump has no capacity to feel any shame about lying. In his pathological narcissism, the only truth he knows is that he deserves nothing but praise from others, and he’ll say whatever bullshit that boils to top of his mind in the moment to try to affect that outcome, including belittling and devaluing those who challenge his towering worthiness.
04-25-2020, 06:04 PM
Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by tgull

I highly doubt the Chinese intentionally engineered this for global disruption. They truly have, and will have, the most to lose. Countries now are going to re-trench and just make products domestically so the Chinese economy is going to get crushed, look for more Tiananmen Square slaughters.

Lord Sonatine was correct in his January post, it was sloppy work by a lab researching a virus they leaked. To be fair to the Wuhan, this virus was probably going to get out eventually anyway. It's not like that batflu was going to stay contained forever.

If there's one bright spot to this whole fiasco it would be nice for people to wake up and see how dangerous China is and work in concert to reduce its power and influence.
04-25-2020, 06:10 PM
tgull

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by tgull

I highly doubt the Chinese intentionally engineered this for global disruption. They truly have, and will have, the most to lose. Countries now are going to re-trench and just make products domestically so the Chinese economy is going to get crushed, look for more Tiananmen Square slaughters.

Lord Sonatine was correct in his January post, it was sloppy work by a lab researching a virus they leaked. To be fair to the Wuhan, this virus was probably going to get out eventually anyway. It's not like that batflu was going to stay contained forever.

If there's one bright spot to this whole fiasco it would be nice for people to wake up and see how dangerous China is and work in concert to reduce its power and influence.

Now that is a good post. Agree 100%.
04-25-2020, 06:33 PM
big dick

remember when we had a guy do this?

Look what we got now A fat pig who is running from the media and spreading hate daily. What A god dam disgrace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQuePDvlbDA
04-25-2020, 06:39 PM
big dick

meanwhile we got 55kish dead with many more to come and a guy who seems to not give even 1 fuck
04-25-2020, 06:41 PM
Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by big dick

remember when we had a guy do this?

Look what we got now A fat pig who is running from the media and spreading hate daily. What A god dam disgrace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQuePDvlbDA

That was GW Bush's best moment, and it was ad-libbed, of course.

However, if you think back to the 2000s, the media was constantly bashing him and portraying him as the embodiment of evil. I bet they'd love to have him back now instead of Trump!

That's a fitting consequence for all of their hyper-biased BS we've seen for so long.
04-25-2020, 06:43 PM
Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by tgull

I highly doubt the Chinese intentionally engineered this for global disruption. They truly have, and will have, the most to lose. Countries now are going to re-trench and just make products domestically so the Chinese economy is going to get crushed, look for more Tiananmen Square slaughters.

Lord Sonatine was correct in his January post, it was sloppy work by a lab researching a virus they leaked. To be fair to the Wuhan, this virus was probably going to get out eventually anyway. It's not like that batflu was going to stay contained forever.

If there's one bright spot to this whole fiasco it would be nice for people to wake up and see how dangerous China is and work in concert to reduce its power and influence.

I wish more Democrats thought like you regarding China. Instead, they feel they must defend China because Trump is currently blaming them. Anything Trump criticizes, they feel they have to defend.
04-25-2020, 06:43 PM
sah_24

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ients-n1191811

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ... ORANGE MAN BAD

Lol libtards <3
04-25-2020, 06:46 PM
big dick

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Quote:

Originally Posted by big dick

remember when we had a guy do this?

Look what we got now A fat pig who is running from the media and spreading hate daily. What A god dam disgrace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQuePDvlbDA

That was GW Bush's best moment, and it was ad-libbed, of course.

However, if you think back to the 2000s, the media was constantly bashing him and portraying him as the embodiment of evil. I bet they'd love to have him back now instead of Trump!

That's a fitting consequence for all of their hyper-biased BS we've seen for so long.

He was pro wealthy and pro business but deep down not a bad person at heart

Trump is a bad man and an even worse leader.
04-25-2020, 06:49 PM
Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by TheXFactor

Maybe you can't handle the truth.

The United States will lose over 40% of the economy.

27 million people will be unemployed.

One of the Chinese Communist Party goals has been achieved. Wipe out the United States and their allies economies.

It looks like they took the SARS virus from years ago, re-engineered it to make it more deadly and made a new synthetic virus.

The wet market is Wuhan does not even sell bats.

China shut it down and cleaned all evidence, maybe actually to make sure that no one could tell that there was no evidence of any virus originating from there.

China has been blocking the truth about the number of infected and deaths since last December.

It is very clear that China does not want the truth about this virus to be released.

China will soon be the number one economy on the planet. Permanent economic harm and major death of citizens has been done to the U.S. U.K., Italy, Spain and a number of other countries.

Everything is still under investigation.
Maybe in the next few months, they will find people who will collaborate conclusive evidence that the Chinese Communist Party was behind this criminal activity, which is also an act of war.

If they had engineered it they would have found a way to deliver it to the US/EU without causing such a huge problem internally. If there's a threat to the CCP it's losing their narrative of "we make your life better, so trust us." Not only the deaths but the fact that their economy shrank for the first time in 4 decades is a huge problem for the CCP.

The CCP absolutely is to blame and bears a huge amount of responsibility for the spread and scope of the problem. They clearly covered up. They continue to lie and they are exerting their influence overtly and covertly to try to evade responsibility.

For many reasons, FUCK the Chinese Communist Party. But that doesn't mean they engineered this virus.
04-25-2020, 06:52 PM
Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by sonatine

this is the *internal* EEAS report on 'geopolitical pressure' regarding c19, and it has some fairly hot takes on the role chinese state disinformation factored into the state of things.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...vironment.html

punch line: this is *public* EEAS report, where suddenly things are uh... a bit less incendiary.

https://euvsdisinfo.eu/eeas-special-...te-2-22-april/

Bunch of fucking pussies in the EU for caving to China.

Beijing should be nuked.
04-25-2020, 06:54 PM
Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

So let's pretend we obtain evidence the Chinese were responsible for either allowing or causing this virus to be set loose, what should our/the world's response be?

Personally, I think we/the world lack the will to do anything beyond blustering. A generation or two ago would be a different story.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

I think you're right but I hope you're wrong.
04-25-2020, 06:56 PM
Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Tellafriend: you are really reaching

mitch mconnell just told us to declare bankruptcy after we paid 160bn in taxes and his home state took 140bn in taxes.

the fuck you on about?

One has nothing to do with the other.

But, since we are going down this rabbit hole, why not just wipe out all of the debt for all of the states that don't have a balanced budget? Seems reasonable to the States that live within their means, right?

How about we first make Medicare/SSRI solvent which we actually were told we funded. Then we can bail out the underfunded public pensions followed of course by the private pensions.

My 401k has taken a hit, where is my bailout? I certainly paid in more than I took out last year.

Everyone is looking for the next handout.

We can start by repealing Trump's trillion dollar tax giveaway to the top 1% and corporations and use that money to help people instead.
04-25-2020, 06:59 PM
Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by JimmyG_415

Look who is taking his ball and going home again.

Yeah, it’s the real news that is the problem, by asking him about facts,
by quoting him directly, and by playing him unedited.
If CNN or MSNBC cut away, go to CSPAN, you can always get the full presser if you want.

Yeah women are too emotional for politics.
And the ratings? WTF we are all stuck at home, craving any good info.

He should've taken his cue from the one w/Target, CVS & Walmart.
Even if that was BS, at the time, the way the stock market jumped should have told him
how to get out of the hole he was in, BY CALLING IT A HOAX

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He looks like such an idiot in these briefings that his campaign and the Republicans in Congress are begging him to stop. They're afraid of huge electoral losses in November.
04-25-2020, 07:11 PM
Crowe Diddly

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

That was GW Bush's best moment, and it was ad-libbed, of course.

However, if you think back to the 2000s, the media was constantly bashing him and portraying him as the embodiment of evil. I bet they'd love to have him back now instead of Trump!

We'd rather have a dented can of off-brand crushed tomatoes than Trump, but that's neither here nor there.

Perhaps the most surprising piece of video I'd seen when this thing first really got going was from GDub.

The gist is that obv Bush was hyper-vigilant about national defense after 2001, not surprisingly. In his second term, he read some book about the Spanish flu, recognized that this is a thing that happens every x amount of years with no warning, and got obsessed with it for a while. He recognized that the only shot you have is to be prepared and act quickly once it happens, so he set is people on making plans and funding resources, etc. I have no idea if he got the funding he was looking for, or even a portion of it, or what happened to these plans, etc. Might be worth looking into, but not me, not tonight anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSDC5L7qYUc

Here's the full deal from cspan, 2005.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?189676...c-preparedness
04-25-2020, 07:11 PM
Tellafriend

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

One has nothing to do with the other.

But, since we are going down this rabbit hole, why not just wipe out all of the debt for all of the states that don't have a balanced budget? Seems reasonable to the States that live within their means, right?

How about we first make Medicare/SSRI solvent which we actually were told we funded. Then we can bail out the underfunded public pensions followed of course by the private pensions.

My 401k has taken a hit, where is my bailout? I certainly paid in more than I took out last year.

Everyone is looking for the next handout.

We can start by repealing Trump's trillion dollar tax giveaway to the top 1% and corporations and use that money to help people instead.

I agree. It was a giveaway to his donors. Mostly just helped those who didn’t need it.
04-25-2020, 07:33 PM
TheXFactor

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