also i think the odds of an isis tie-in are lower than before i heard about his trips to the middle east.
its fairly unlikely that they would sit on evidence of involvement this long.
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also i think the odds of an isis tie-in are lower than before i heard about his trips to the middle east.
its fairly unlikely that they would sit on evidence of involvement this long.
1. That something is off with the "official" story about the shooter, and not in a small way. Not necessarily a conspiracy, but something is just not right. Moving constantly, nefarious earnings of $5 million (net or gross, which is hard to gather because)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
2. The media sucks, does not ask the questions that need to be asked, nor do they follow up. They parrot official sources, and amplify the fake news. Now that the news cycle has moved on, the story that the security guard was shot earlier, and isn't the hero he was made out to be is barely getting coverage. This changed everything with the timing and sequence of events, but let's talk about Harvey Weinstein.
My bet is this guy was a white collar criminal, and there is at least a small chance this guy was caught up in someone else's scheme.
The media moving on from this story already is fucking lol.
It vanished from the news cycles here days ago. And like the guy above said, its nowhere to be seen on US stations now either.
Very dirty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=j7-_j1N11QM
There has been virtually no new info in at least 5 days. What stories should the news be running?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
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Originally Posted by DirtyBThere has been virtually no new info in at least 5 days. What stories should the news be running?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
I would assume the public is still very thirsty for answers.
When that is the case I'd expect journalists to come into their own and try some digging of their own. Keep the story prevalent for the families too.
Fuck, CNN has spent 4 hours per night for the last 11 months talking about Trump. Often when there's been fuckall to report.
Biggest gun massacre in US modern history and the news got nothing to say after only 1 week cause the police haven't?
Nah
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Originally Posted by Lord of the FraudQuote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
I would assume the public is still very thirsty for answers.
When that is the case I'd expect journalists to come into their own and try some digging of their own. Keep the story prevalent for the families too.
Fuck, CNN has spent 4 hours per night for the last 11 months talking about Trump. Often when there's been fuckall to report.
Biggest gun massacre in US modern history and the news got nothing to say after only 1 week cause the police haven't?
Nah
It only broke last year's record. Give it another few months and they'll be a new record.
Can we say All of the above smells like Shit
The obvious would be the Angle of the shot from either window. The Idea of this 64 yr man running from 1 window to the other. Running with bullet casings littered all over the floor without falling. Now we hear the partition wall door was locked or wedged shut.
So now the guy is confined to 1 room with the worst angle for the shooting. Like I said not a straight forward shooting angle he would have his body turned to the right to shoot. If he is standing back in the room on boxes or a platform the shot is even more difficult. They say he tryed to buy tracer rounds....That would make my point.
With the timeline changing every other day, anyone in that other room could escape before swat/police arrive. Theres noway that I believe he carried all those weapons and ammo to his suite himself.
The sounds of the gun shots and weapons used do not add up at all. Some do overlap sounding like 2-3 diffrent guns almost at one time.
Heres another example of the gun shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZsu2Oa7HQI
And how about some bullet casings on the ground 32 floors down or anywhere on the ground???
By Miracle none left the room threw the windows??? He Used casings catch bags??
They have left out to much Info for me and the Media tells us what ever.....But theres to many witnesses and to many cameras for the media now. Thats why they have changed topics all week...
Oppps I spoke to soon maybe there are casings on the ground,,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsYjS8xF-7E
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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
It only broke last year's record. Give it another few months and they'll be a new record.
Fucking hope not. Certain news stories stay with me, and that was one of them.
Scandalous how quickly the media have turned the page with so many unanswered questions still..... That Muslim poof who shot up the nightclub was an open and shut case.
But everybody who's closely following this story (or trying to) feel like something is very off with the whole thing. The media should be squeezing the fuck out of everybody in law enforcement on the publics behalf. They're there to serve you after all. Not those shower of bastards who're trying to keep a lid on whatever this is.
YOU HEAR THAT FELLAS, THERE IS NO WAY A 64 YEAR OLD COULD BE RUNNING WITH BULLET CASINGS LITTERED ALL OVER THE FLOOR WITHOUT FALLING!
HE WAS JUST A PATSY!
You assume Im saying a 64 yr old man would likely slip n fall on bullet casings while running room to room??? HOW about any Age............Better??????? But no need to...The door was Locked why would he run from 1 room to the other???Quote:
Originally Posted by adamantium
But you made a good point his age Does matter........
CNN is completely unhinged with their Trump feud. They can't pay attention to anything else for more than a day. It is just nonstop Trump bashing 24/7. CNN has moved on, but most other more credible journalistic entities are still writing about the Mandalay Bay shootings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the FraudQuote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
I would assume the public is still very thirsty for answers.
When that is the case I'd expect journalists to come into their own and try some digging of their own. Keep the story prevalent for the families too.
Fuck, CNN has spent 4 hours per night for the last 11 months talking about Trump. Often when there's been fuckall to report.
Biggest gun massacre in US modern history and the news got nothing to say after only 1 week cause the police haven't?
Nah
At least this shooting made the news cycle. One week before the Mandalay shooting a black Sudanese immigrant shot up a church and executed a bunch of white people, until a white man with a legal gun permit subdued him. That narrative is so against everything the liberal media is peddling they completely buried that story. The man was captured, and yet To the best of my knowledge we know nothing about him or his motive. The media just wasn't interested.
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Originally Posted by RealNoNameYetYou assume Im saying a 64 yr old man would likely slip n fall on bullet casings while running room to room??? HOW about any Age............Better??????? But no need to...The door was Locked why would he run from 1 room to the other???Quote:
Originally Posted by adamantium
But you made a good point his age Does matter........
You need an avatar picture. I scoured the entire interwebs, and these are the only two that will work for you.
(Reposted with additional vids)
A few days ago, a Dutch TV show aired a parody video about gun obsession in America. The bizarre thing is that some American gun enthusiasts had previously published YouTube vids that clearly speak to their addictions to guns. The sad irony here is that the parody wasn't too far from the truth.
Here's the parody sketch vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-o9pwWUzz0&feature=youtu.be
Here are a couple vids previously posted by some actual American gun nuts showing their gun collections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnuOncXGEqs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuqI92BahXk&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcMNvCud_SQ&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvhzHWLZ7n4&feature=youtu.be
What you know about AK's and AR-15's?Quote:
Originally Posted by RealNoNameYet
Equipped with night vision, shell catchers
and inf-beams, huh
You said you a gangsta
But you neva pop nuttin'
We said you a wanksta
And you need to stop frontin'
You go to the dealership
But you neva cop nuttin'
You been hustlin' a long time
And you ain't got nuttin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XRa-DDsfsc
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Originally Posted by verminaardCNN is completely unhinged with their Trump feud. They can't pay attention to anything else for more than a day. It is just nonstop Trump bashing 24/7. CNN has moved on, but most other more credible journalistic entities are still writing about the Mandalay Bay shootings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
Fuck that. No other world leader is more unhinged than Donald Trump and he deserves every bit of the 24/7 bashing.
CNN WAS doing good work, but it was at the expense of almost every other news story over the 12 months. I didn't like that and thought it was a bit self-defeating anyway.
Whichever news outlets are keeping Vegas at the forefront, then I approve. Providing they aren't acting as apologists for those bastards at the NRA.
The new, or new to me at least, theory is that the security guard is the shooter. He killed Paddock. He was a Mexican or of such descent. Maybe he was mad at the immigration policies and wanted to take it out on the good ole boys at a country music festival. Maybe he new Paddock was running guns and could do this with his weapons. He apparently has no social media presence which is odd for a 22-23 year old. No pictures of this supposed hero. Why? Trump wasn't out for a photo op shaking the hero's hand - which would have been quite good for him given DACA. Time line has changed which doesn't make sense. He was on the floor for a door that was ajar coincidentally.
Interesting idea.
The "narrative" is now that the shooter utilized the freight elevator.
Those who are more informed on casino protocol, does it take special access to gain entrance to those?
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Originally Posted by devidee
Steve Wynn said as much in his interview a day or two ago.
Been a active Hunter From age 16 till now...Ive shot sks,Aks,Ars Handguns, Semi auto rifles,Bolt action Rifles...Shot gunsQuote:
Originally Posted by GambleBotsSatireWhat you know about AK's and AR-15's?Quote:
Originally Posted by RealNoNameYet
Equipped with night vision, shell catchers
and inf-beams, huh
You said you a gangsta
But you neva pop nuttin'
We said you a wanksta
And you need to stop frontin'
You go to the dealership
But you neva cop nuttin'
You been hustlin' a long time
And you ain't got nuttin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XRa-DDsfsc
Ive been shot at on 5 diffrent occasions ..I have a open mind that can figure out the obvious BS
How about you PISSANT
Ive noticed if you post your opinion on this forum you get bashed...Some of you iggnorant Fucks are a cancer and closed minded sheep.......
So if you want to poke expect it back...Gagsta boi..............Its All good MotherFucka from where Im standing
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Originally Posted by Tellafriend
Best idea yet
You should seriously consider taking this to the FBI.
Could you record the phone conversation or maybe video it if you go in person?
Maybe I'm so disrespectful cuz to me you're a mysteryQuote:
Originally Posted by RealNoNameYetBeen a active Hunter From age 16 till now...Ive shot sks,Aks,Ars Handguns, Semi auto rifles,Bolt action Rifles...Shot gunsQuote:
Originally Posted by GambleBotsSatire
Ive been shot at on 5 diffrent occasions ..I have a open mind that can figure out the obvious BS
How about you PISSANT
Ive noticed if you post your opinion on this forum you get bashed...Some of you iggnorant Fucks are a cancer and closed minded sheep.......
So if you want to poke expect it back...Gagsta boi..............Its All good MotherFucka from where Im standing
I know niggas from your hood
you have no history
Never poked nothing
never popped nothing
nigga stop frontin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fR5X4NnZXM
Hit these faggots with heat next
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Originally Posted by RealNoNameYet
yeah but we have mintjewlips so it all evens out.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Often it's just in an "employees only" area which isn't secured or locked very well. On occasion, I have taken hotel freight elevators when there is something wrong with the main elevator (or in one case, because the main elevator was super far from my room, and the freight one was super close). Not that I've made a habit of it, but I'm saying that it's not difficult to do in many cases.
I think the whole concern of, "How did a 64-year-old man get 23 guns up there" should be dropped. He had 4 days to do it. It's very easy to do. They don't watch the comings and goings of hotel guests.
I can't picture this possibly being true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
It would make zero sense why Paddock brought the guns up there. It also wouldn't make sense why Paddock attempted to make reservations at other hotels overlooking crowds, such as The Ogden the previous week.
If any possible conspiracy theory could be true, it would be that there was a second shooter somewhere on the ground, and that Paddock knew the guy would get away because it would all be blamed on him. But I still doubt it, because nobody saw a ground shooter.
Hey Todge? great story
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Originally Posted by lol wow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuW6_oqcOA
Wasn't saying it's what happened. Just an interesting idea. Will say that blaming it on paddock makes more sense to me than anything I've heard to suggest that paddock actually had a reason to do this and end his Cush life. Just sayin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI can't picture this possibly being true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
It would make zero sense why Paddock brought the guns up there. It also wouldn't make sense why Paddock attempted to make reservations at other hotels overlooking crowds, such as The Ogden the previous week.
If any possible conspiracy theory could be true, it would be that there was a second shooter somewhere on the ground, and that Paddock knew the guy would get away because it would all be blamed on him. But I still doubt it, because nobody saw a ground shooter.
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He was a psychopath, what else are you looking for here exactly?
to be fair he could have a radicialized face and be looking for isis that is a thing apparently
also on my 2nd playthrough of heat its been way too long
Agree. Relatively speaking, Its really not THAT difficult to haul a bunch of guns in a trip if a person really wanted to. Most are fairly compact and light. If a guy had a tough oversized duffle bag( or maybe even a big enough suitcase), he could fit and haul up a good amount in one trip even if the guns were fully assembled. If the barrels etc were apart, you could fit them in an even smaller duffle bag or other carry in. Ammo? Yeah, its heavier by volume...but still no problem. And if you were using a cart to haul the bags - even easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffSometimes yes, sometimes no.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Often it's just in an "employees only" area which isn't secured or locked very well. On occasion, I have taken hotel freight elevators when there is something wrong with the main elevator (or in one case, because the main elevator was super far from my room, and the freight one was super close). Not that I've made a habit of it, but I'm saying that it's not difficult to do in many cases.
I think the whole concern of, "How did a 64-year-old man get 23 guns up there" should be dropped. He had 4 days to do it. It's very easy to do. They don't watch the comings and goings of hotel guests.
Lots of people have mental issues. Hell, we all do. I haven't seen any reason to suggest why he would do this. And simply saying he's Got something in the dsm-v isn't answering my questions. This is especially true given his worldly circumstances, age, and the lack of evidence of any previous abberant behavior.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Tellafriend
He was a psychopath, what else are you looking for here exactly?
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Originally Posted by TellafriendLots of people have mental issues. Hell, we all do. I haven't seen any reason to suggest why he would do this. And simply saying he's Got something in the dsm-v isn't answering my questions. This is especially true given his worldly circumstances, age, and the lack of evidence of any previous abberant behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
America got a thing for this gangster shit, they love me
Black Chukkas, black skully, leather Pelle Pelle
I tag SPIT over Ramo's shit, I'm a vandal
Got that silver duct tape on my trey-eight handle
The women in my life bring confusion and shit
So like Nino in "New Jack," I holla "Cancel that bitch!"
Look at me, this is the life I chose
Niggas around me so cold, man my heart done froze
I built an empire on the low, the narc's don't know
I'm the weatherman, I take that cocoa leaf and make that snow
Sit back, watch it turn to dope, watch it go out the do'
O after O, you know?
Homie, I'm just triple beam, dreaming, niggas be scheming
I fiend to live the good life, the fiends are just fiending
Conceal my weapon nice and neat so you can't see
The penitentiary is definitely out the question for me
https://youtu.be/K3AiAem9JLQ
You don't need a cart or a special bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by GordmanAgree. Relatively speaking, Its really not THAT difficult to haul a bunch of guns in a trip if a person really wanted to. Most are fairly compact and light. If a guy had a tough oversized duffle bag( or maybe even a big enough suitcase), he could fit and haul up a good amount in one trip even if the guns were fully assembled. If the barrels etc were apart, you could fit them in an even smaller duffle bag or other carry in. Ammo? Yeah, its heavier by volume...but still no problem. And if you were using a cart to haul the bags - even easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If you sent me back in time to September 1, checked me into Mandalay Bay, gave me 50 guns to access from a home in Vegas, and gave me 4 days to get them into the room by September 5, I could easily do it without detection.
You just keep making trips back and forth over those 4 days, and you'll easily do it, completely unnoticed and undetected.
It doesn't require any special skill or planning. That was the easiest part of this guy's operation.
Would he have been able to avoid all casino cameras while making these trips?
(Asking for a goy)
the fuck are you talking about no is saying he avoided cameras the parking garage at manda just drops you down by the walkway to red square no one checks ur bags
So if he didn't avoid cameras there's no need to even speculate about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by lol wow