LOL Micon is defending himself on DD now.
What a fucking loser.
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LOL Micon is defending himself on DD now.
What a fucking loser.
raise your hand if you almost died laughing when micon wrote that he went 'above and beyond' in advertising for filthy limper
Also on the league standings it has my week 1 and 2 points from luckboxing listed separately rather than added together.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
I wholeheartedly agree. It's a good mix of hosts, all active in the poker scene, talk just about anything poker related, are cordial and don't talk over their guests, all of which I find both entertaining and informative. I enjoyed dd too up to the time Micon dismissed his other hosts, then the whole atmosphere changed. Micon really needs to get some coaching--I hate seeing what is happening now to dd.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
Both will be fixed asap, thanks for the heads up guysQuote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspokerAlso on the league standings it has my week 1 and 2 points from luckboxing listed separately rather than added together.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
That's funny, considering Micon has never gone "above and beyond" anything in his motherfuckin' life!Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
Me: bedshitter bedshitter bedshitter
micon: hi
Me: fuck u
Me: pfa is where its at
micon: hi
micon: not gonna be laughing when I ban you
Me: can you ban this acct this place sucks
Me: thanks in advance
micon: np
Me: ty
micon: would you like a week ban or a lifelong ban?
Me: gimme a lifer
micon: I'm bringing a whole new management "don't give a shit" style to DD in 2012
micon: busy now, I can hook you up later tho
Me: like u gave a shit in the 1st place
micon: u mad
Me: no
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jasep1980
Message subject: Re: Attention Potential Sponsors of Donkdown..Folder: Unread Sent Messages
So sigs and avatars are now censored here? Whatever Mason, , maybe I will get around to fullfilling your request in a month or so
Sent: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:28 pm View message
micon
Message subject: Re: Attention Potential Sponsors of Donkdown..Folder: Inbox
As you are no longer an advertiser, please remove the filthy limper logos and links from your avatar and signature and location.
thanks,
-Bryan
THIS WEEK WE WILL BE JOINED BY VERY SPECIAL GUEST CO-HOST BRANDON "DREXEL" Drexel
:yes
Micon has made so many terribly bad decisions lately.
He should start to take advantage of his smart wife and ask her opinion of things before making so many bad moves in his 'business' and in his personal life.
Just sad.
His wife is usually with Schoenfeld.
Can you get your radio show on Itunes? Sorry- I think I got it, but not the strat show yet. Must be because its new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
Cliffs:
First Micon shits on Todd and Brandon and now he is shitting on his sponsors. Not a very smart business decision is it? But yet Donkdown 2.0 will be all in our face very soon.
:facepalm
Wow Failcon is channeling Mason Mallmuth. Who the fuck would have seen that coming..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
He removed my signature and changed my avatar to "I love DonkDown" I have since changed it to FREE PLOL , but no one will see it without looking in the hall of fame or deep in the archives, because I have no plans of posting there in the future. Although at the rate of posts per day that the site is getting maybe it will be years until the Whitney Houston death thread finally works its way off the front page.Quote:
Originally Posted by pokeremtdjWow Failcon is channeling Mason Mallmuth. Who the fuck would have seen that coming..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
And Pika has listened to the last DD "failcast"Quote:
Originally Posted by JasepHe removed my signature and changed my avatar to "I love DonkDown" I have since changed it to FREE PLOL , but no one will see it without looking in the hall of fame or deep in the archives, because I have no plans of posting there in the future. Although at the rate of posts per day that the site is getting maybe it will be years until the Whitney Houston death thread finally works its way off the front page.Quote:
Originally Posted by pokeremtdj
Game on, I have a plan if you want to go head to head...
You should have told me about this... Damn you know what I mean by this gem... Game on fuck the BR, I'll get it to you sooner than later.
Micon has indeed finally snapped. He needs to get out of Vegas and take a good look in the mirror. At this rate he is not only killing Donkdown, but he is killing himself. I have tried pleading to him to get professional help but I feel he wants to die just like Stu Ungar.
Ok, now we've gone off the deep end a bit...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins
Have you ever thought that these weird patterns of behavior might be cries for help?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyOk, now we've gone off the deep end a bit...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins
Lets not compare Micon to Stu Ungar... More like Ray CombsQuote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyOk, now we've gone off the deep end a bit...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins
Quote:
Originally Posted by JasepLets not compare Micon to Stu Ungar... More like Ray CombsQuote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
Maybe I am bringing up the worst case scenario and a morbid one as well. I have lost someone close to me who thought he would make it in Las Vegas only to find himself an alcoholic and a drug addict who later lost his life from those addictions. I only met Micon once and to be honest he did not look well and as we have found out it only has gotten worse.
And I really do wish Micon would take a good look in the mirror and ask himself if living the life of a degenerate gambler is really worth it. I can only wish that he makes the right choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy CollinsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
Maybe I am bringing up the worst case scenario and a morbid one as well. I have lost someone close to me who thought he would make it in Las Vegas only to find himself an alcoholic and a drug addict who later lost his life from those addictions. I only met Micon once and to be honest he did not look well and as we have found out it only has gotten worse.
BTW you were speaking to " micon" - not the real micon. So... fail much?Quote:
Originally Posted by BUBBLES
I enjoy the Filthy Limper Radio Show.
How to make it better:
1. Earlier suggestions on improving the transitions between guests and hosts were correct. No reason for the awkward silence. EZ to correct. Don't mimic Larry King!
2. Every time I visit your site I get confused about Radio link and chat link. Why not make this fail proof? For example, a PFA or DD forum post link might bring me to a Blog Talk website for the show where there is nothing about a chat box link OR EVEN A LINK TO YOUR WEBSITE!
3. After Googling 'Filthy Limper' I arrive at your page. Still confused about how to listen to radio and participate in chat. There IS NO BUTTON FOR CHAT in the menu! One has to click the 'Connect' button to find the chat button! Why make it difficult for listeners?
4. I believe one has to register just listen to chat. Why not make chat simple?
You have a good radio program. Why not make it better? Someone asked me to call in during the most recent show. I couldn't find the number.
I'm not sure how you were unable to find the number. The page where the podcast is has the number to call in...Quote:
Originally Posted by SixToedPete
Overall I think the site itself is insanely easy to navigate through, but I am happy to help anyone and make any improvements that will make it easier for people. Thanks for the input.Quote:
Originally Posted by SixToedPete
I probably wasn't clear enough. I meant the Blog Talk Filthy Limper page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beebs9DizzleI'm not sure how you were unable to find the number. The page where the podcast is has the number to call in...Quote:
Originally Posted by SixToedPete
I've been away for a few days, so I haven't had the time to comment on this. I did manage to quickly read through all of this drama when I had a few minutes.
To put it simply, Jasep got royally screwed by Micon. I didn't want to comment earlier when I only had one side of the story (Jasep's), but now that I've gotten to read Micon's response, I'm floored.
Jasep's argument is essentially that he bought a sponsorship package on DD from Micon for $100, and Micon both took too long to run the ads (the minor problem) and insulted him and his business (the major problem).
Jasep complained that Micon called Filthy Limper "a fail site" on radio.
Micon countered that he called it a fail site because he actually felt it was one, and justified saying it because he claims DD always tells it like it is.
This is garbage.
There is a huge difference between softshoeing around wrongdoing of your sponsors and needlessly insulting them.
For example, if Lock Poker was a DD sponsor, and Micon dedicated a segment on radio to criticizing them for their shady actions, that would be completely acceptable. Being a sponsor shouldn't mean that you buy silence from poker media outlets about your company's cheating and wrongdoing. If Micon chose to criticize a sponsor that had done something wrong, I would applaud him.
But that's not what happened here.
Filthy Limper didn't do anything wrong. Filthy Limper didn't deserve to be insulted. Filthy Limper was just an upstart poker media site attempting to reach an audience.
Micon keeps going back to the fact that Jasep only paid $100 for the sponsorship. He keeps focusing on the claim that Jasep paid "way below the market rate", whatever that means. He keeps asking Jasep if he felt he got $100 worth of advertising out of the sponsorship.
None of that is relevant here.
It doesn't matter if Jasep paid $1000, $100, $10, $1, or 1 cent. He was a sponsor and deserved to be treated with respect. Once you accept his advertising money, you are committing to treat both him and his site well, and to do your best to promote them. You won't find any legitimate business -- media or otherwise -- insulting their sponsors simply because they feel like it.
If Micon was really so intent upon insulting Jasep and his site, he should have been up front about it before taking his money. He should have said, "Hey, Jasep, I'd like you to advertise on DD, but I just want to let you know I think your site is a failure, and I'm going to be insulting it on radio, even if you advertise with me. So before you send me any money, I want you to know and understand this."
Should Jasep have "expected" this treatment, simply because it was DD, or because Micon was the one in charge?
No.
It is automatically implied that your business will be treated respectfully when you pay for advertising on any site. The advertiser should never assume that the site owner might insult his business, especially if the advertiser's business has done nothing shady. And while Micon has made a lot of mistakes over the years, he's never done this before. Look at his recent sponsors. He always spoke positively about Hero Poker. He always spoke nicely about Draft Day. And Seals With Clubs, a site highly deserving of sharp criticism for its major security issues and near-dead activity levels, seems to get the royal treatment, with just a quick disclaimer that the site has "jank software" and the player should join at his own risk.
BOTTOM LINE: You don't bite the hand that feeds you. You need to appreciate those that are generous enough to sponsor you. You should never resent those companies, even if you think they paid less than they should have. You were the one who accepted the offer, so if you're mad about being underpaid, look in the mirror and insult yourself.
This was NOT a case of "telling it like it is". This was a case of needlessly insulting a business that supported you. This was a case of letting your resentment over what they paid influence your behavior.
Jasep deserves a refund. He definitely didn't get what he paid for. Part of what he paid for was respectful treatment of his business -- something incredibly standard in all advertising deals -- and he didn't get that.
Oh, and to quote what has been said by many about this issue lately: "I'll be glad to debate this point on radio with anyone who disagrees."
I've been away for a few days, so I haven't had the time to comment on this. I did manage to quickly read through all of this drama when I had a few minutes.
To put it simply, Jasep got royally screwed by Micon. I didn't want to comment earlier when I only had one side of the story (Jasep's), but now that I've gotten to read Micon's response, I'm floored.
Jasep's argument is essentially that he bought a sponsorship package on DD from Micon for $100, and Micon both took too long to run the ads (the minor problem) and insulted him and his business (the major problem).
Jasep complained that Micon called Filthy Limper "a fail site".
Micon countered that he called it a fail site because he actually felt it was one, and justified saying it because he claims DD always tells it like it is.
This is garbage.
There is a huge difference between softshoeing around wrongdoing of your sponsors and needlessly insulting them.
For example, if Lock Poker was a DD sponsor, and Micon dedicated a segment on radio to criticizing them for their shady actions, that would be completely acceptable. Being a sponsor shouldn't mean that you buy silence from poker media outlets about your company's cheating and wrongdoing. If Micon chose to criticize a sponsor that had done something wrong, I would applaud him.
But that's not what happened here.
Filthy Limper didn't do anything wrong. Filthy Limper didn't deserve to be insulted. Filthy Limper was just an upstart poker media site attempting to reach an audience.
Micon keeps going back to the fact that Jasep only paid $100 for the sponsorship. He keeps focusing on the claim that Jasep paid "way below the market rate", whatever that means. He keeps asking Jasep if he felt he got $100 worth of advertising out of the sponsorship.
None of that is relevant here.
It doesn't matter if Jasep paid $1000, $100, $10, $1, or 1 cent. He was a sponsor and deserved to be treated with respect. Once you accept his advertising money, you are committing to treat both him and his site well, and to do your best to promote them. You won't find any legitimate business -- media or otherwise -- insulting their sponsors simply because they feel like it.
If Micon was really so intent upon insulting Jasep and his site, he should have been up front about it before taking his money. He should have said, "Hey, Jasep, I'd like you to advertise on DD, but I just want to let you know I think your site is a failure, and I'm going to be insulting it on radio, even if you advertise with me. So before you send me any money, I want you to know and understand this."
Should Jasep have "expected" this treatment, simply because it was DD, or because Micon was in charge?
No.
It is automatically implied that your business will be treated respectfully when you pay for advertising on any site. The advertiser should never assume that the site owner might insult his business, especially if the advertiser's business have done nothing shady. And while Micon has made a lot of mistakes over the years, he's never done this before. Look at his recent sponsors. He always spoke positively about Hero Poker. He always spoke nicely about Draft Day. And Seals With Clubs, a site highly deserving of sharp criticism for its major security issues and near-dead activity levels, seems to get the royal treatment, with just a quick disclaimer that the site has "jank software" and the player should join at his own risk.
BOTTOM LINE: You don't bite the hand that feeds you. You need to appreciate those that are generous enough to sponsor you. You should never resent those companies, even if you think they paid less than they should have. You were the one who accepted the offer, so if you're mad about being underpaid, look in the mirror and insult yourself.
This was NOT a case of "telling it like it is". This was a case of needlessly insulting a business that supported you. This was a case of letting your resentment over what they paid influence your behavior.
Jasep deserves a refund. He definitely didn't get what he paid for. Part of what he paid for was respectful treatment of his business -- something incredibly standard in all advertising deals -- and he didn't get that.
Oh, and to quote what has been said by many about this issue lately: "I'll be glad to debate this point on radio with anyone who disagrees."
In almost any other more standard business transaction, taking over a month to run the ads after getting paid up front would also be a major problem , not a minor problem imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Micon lacks common sense and decency both in business and in his personal life.
But seriously, the ads should've been for 50 rather than for 100...for the lols, obv.
Woah Beebs, we keep that stuff on the low lowQuote:
Originally Posted by Beebs9DizzleBTW you were speaking to " micon" - not the real micon. So... fail much?Quote:
Originally Posted by BUBBLES
Todd. What is your opinion of Micon forcing me to change my signature and avatar and when I don't comply manually changing them to an I love donk down avatar?
Incredibly immature and yet even more of a reason that he owes you a refund.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
The site policy (and I know, because I was part of making it) allows you to advertise your own site in your signature and avatar, without having to pay any money to do so.
You are being punished because you complained about your sponsorship.
So essentially you sponsored the site, and now you are being given LESS opportunity to promote your site than everyone else who DIDN'T sponsor the site and paid Micon zero lifetime.
Nice.
what episode of filthy limper radio was bryan broke retard micon on
How did you manage to put up with Micon all those years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffIncredibly immature and yet even more of a reason that he owes you a refund.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
The site policy (and I know, because I was part of making it) allows you to advertise your own site in your signature and avatar, without having to pay any money to do so.
You are being punished because you complained about your sponsorship.
So essentially you sponsored the site, and now you are being given LESS opportunity to promote your site than everyone else who DIDN'T sponsor the site and paid Micon zero lifetime.
Nice.
[QUOTE=Dan Druff;5375]This is hilarious, there must be some kind of award that Micon could be nominated for like most useless jew of the year or something, in fact has it ever been proved that Micon really IS a jew? I'm finding it hard to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
This is still kind of mind boggling to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SixToedPeteI probably wasn't clear enough. I meant the Blog Talk Filthy Limper page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beebs9Dizzle
Here is a screen shot of a Blog Talk show that is live on the air right now:
The Filthy Limper page looks identical when we are live on the air and the phone number is pretty prominent.
Starts at 59:30Quote:
Originally Posted by drufdajewgod
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/sho...ow_2777213.mp3
Also, Druff appeared on this same episode after Micon.