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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
Did your DR say to do that? I know others that quit for this reason, but my DR never did. I drink 4-5 cups a day.
It was all vegetables and exercise.
FTR, I didn't eat one vegetable, (that wasn't on my pizza or sandwich) from the time I moved out until i saw Fat sick and nearly dead. Over 25 years.
I drink my smoothies in under 15 second, so its not that bad, you just have to do it, and stick with it.
Then the PFA podcast is a great thing for exercise, they are 3-4 hours, just say you can only listen to it when moving. Add 1/2 hour a day walking to what your doing now, can't hurt.
I'll tell you what doesn't work, though, edibles.
First you eat this thing that is so filled w/sugar to hid the weed, THEN you get hungry.
Last time I ate one, the only thing I could call it was "sleep eating".
I woke up and all kinds of food was gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU__9ZU3JpM
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He isn't juicing, but the same idea. You never have to be hungry, & if you hate veggies, man the F up.
Nutribullet, 12 seconds to pound the whole thing.
Its better than medicine.
And for His Next Trick, Penn Jillette Will Drop 105 Pounds
https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/ce...124856453.html
Jillette was motivated to get healthy after his high blood pressure put him in the hospital......(his Dr.)said, "If you got down to 230, you probably wouldn’t need any of the meds.'"
.......eating only 1,000 calories a day.....has gone from 330 to 225 lbs.
But don't think Penn's not eating......diet consists of an "enormous salad" for lunch......At dinner he eats...3 lbs. of greens....three servings of rice and a vegetable stew.
For dessert he eats fruit, his favorite being blueberries with plain cocoa powder.
Told me to cut back, but I just quit cold as the high number frightened me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
Did your DR say to do that? I know others that quit for this reason, but my DR never did. I drink 4-5 cups a day.
It was all vegetables and exercise.
FTR, I didn't eat one vegetable, (that wasn't on my pizza or sandwich) from the time I moved out until i saw Fat sick and nearly dead. Over 25 years.
I drink my smoothies in under 15 second, so its not that bad, you just have to do it, and stick with it.
Then the PFA podcast is a great thing for exercise, they are 3-4 hours, just say you can only listen to it when moving. Add 1/2 hour a day walking to what your doing now, can't hurt.
I'll tell you what doesn't work, though, edibles.
First you eat this thing that is so filled w/sugar to hid the weed, THEN you get hungry.
Last time I ate one, the only thing I could call it was "sleep eating".
I woke up and all kinds of food was gone.
Days 2 through 4 were rough, but then minimal symptoms. I now sleep a lot better, too.
I have a cup of green tea in the morning but that is the extent of my caffeine intake. BP is better, too.
I learned not to invest too much stock into a non-Dr. office reading, as ideally one sits for ~10 minutes before a reading. I was still a touch high after this but was told that I don't need any medication, as it would just bring me down to 140/80, which was about where I was.
Systolic number was still a little high last week (130's) but have been around or below 80 for the diastolic reading.
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Originally Posted by DalySleep study IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
You may not be breathing right when you are asleep.
Christ. Id kill one of you for a #7 and three IPA's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe
As of this AM I am no longer a 300 pounder.
Going to get some gravy biscuits and an ice cream chaser for breakfast.
Get a fit bit! They are awesome, and tell you how you're sleeping, among many other really cool things
Wiganer what's the latest? I've been shit lately and my 1 pack is swelling.
Been a month since this was bumped.
Changed my morning walk from around a lake to up a mountain.
The weight just fell off, over 10 lbs the first week,
now I'm hitting the point of diminishing returns, but, haven't been in this good of shape since college, easily.
Anytime I wake up after 4 am, pop in pre-made nutri bullet & go back to sleep, (or else I piss every 5 minutes)
Wake up, take one horse like piss, smoke some sativa, pop in druff's podcast or hardcore history.
I tracked it so it is a 4 mile round trip.
Like 45 minutes, the first week is pain, after that you feel great, you look forward to it.
If there is a mountain or hiking trail w/in a short drive, I'll never walk a flat thing again,
same time frame, burn almost twice the calories.
The 10 pounds you lost in the first week wasn't real weight loss. It was likely water loss or some other temporary weight loss which would be unlikely to stick. Burning off 10 permanent pounds from a week of exercising is nearly impossible.
The only time I actually lost 10 real pounds (actually I think it was 8) in a short time was when I was smacked with a horrendous cold in the summer of 2010 (thanks WSOP), and ate 3 meals total over a period of 7 days. Also when I get sick I don't want to drink soda, so I was drinking only water and almost never eating. So that weight loss was real because I took in almost no calories over an entire week. The weight stayed off for a month after that. I fucked it up though, because I resumed to eating too much and drinking too many Pepsis, and the 8 pounds returned within 2 months after that.
Anyway, while I'm glad you listen to my radio show while exercising, I am not sure how I feel about my show being equated to a hardcore history tape.
You should be pretty fuckin happy. Hardcore History has consistently been one pf the best podcasts out there since podcasts have been a thing. Also, it has often run into the 3-4 hour range, with at least one going to 6 hours that I can think of, so it is one of the few podcasts that are actually comparable to yours in length, if not anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...173001861?mt=2
Are you not familiar with Dan Carlin's Hardcore History? You should check it out some time. I listen to it every night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrEhoA1Pl8Q
OBESITY SO MORBID
Well, as you might have gathered by the silence, things didn't go entirely to plan, and by end of 2015 I'd lost a grand total of 2 pounds. But at least I stopped the accretion of blubber.
Then refocused and concentrated on just doing the simple things consistently (healthy food, limited junk, lots of water, walking more) and keeping a food diary via my fitness pal.
As a result 20 pounds lost so far in 2016. Targeting 1-2 pounds a week till summer and will then take stock.
Feel better already, which should help with keeping at it.
Easier said than done, but when I notice a weight increase cutting out sugar and any grains makes it drop quickly. Even "heart healthy" oatmeal will pack on the pounds quickly. For example, it isnt the hamburgers and cheese that make me gain weight it is the bun and the sugar in the ketchup that get me. Best of luck. Most of us have things we struggle with. Mine happens to be beer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiganer
I recently bought a treadmill. I walk on it at 4.0 with slight incline for an hour and just watch TV or play videos games. I find doing these activities while walking make the time go by so much faster. However, at the end of the day exercise is really a poor way to lose weight. It is probably only 20 percent of it and the other 80 is diet.
May be useful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztiHRiFXtoc
I'm at my ideal weight but there's still heart disease, hbp cancer and overall longevity to take into consideration. I've been looking into going vegetarian to counter act decades of careless consumption. Not to mention animal and environmental concerns. Still working my way there.
So far I've dropped bacon completely and I skip meat when it's convenient. I started drinking some type of almond milk w cereal, it's weird tbh. Candy bacon was my favorite food on the planet. It's so good it's dangerous, I can eat a whole package by myself. Surprising amount of people have never tried it.
Genetics?
Some people are born with slower metabolism. It was prob. a great thing for thousands of years to help our species survive food shortages n efficiency etc. Last hundred years or so all that changed. Billions of $ spent urging people to eat candy bars, sodas fast food etc. Oh well...
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Originally Posted by Wiganer
Congratulations on your fresh start/results in the new year. You seem to have found a system that is working.
i hope you have seen a doctor for your cholesterol & blood sugar -- at the very least that will help motivate by scaring the blazes out of you
exercise can be dull...it takes a lot to stick with it...sometimes combining your walking with a task or activity helps...for example, having a dog is a good idea...the dog has to be walked at least 15 minutes a day to prevent the dog getting bored/destructive, so you doing that will help ensure you get your exercise too...maybe you could borrow a friends dog if your living place doesn't allow it
besides just walking, you might want to add a day of interval training to your exercise week as your health/heart strength improves--say sprint across the rugby pitch and then walk back across to recover...interval training builds muscle which ups metabolism & increases fat burning at rest...if you got the money, a gym membership for a couple days of weight lifting would also help grow muscle/boost metabolism....not enough money? then maybe some sets of push ups or pull-ups, side lunges, mountain climbers, burpees when you walk through a park or visit the rugby pitch
personally, i never cared for jogging, but weight lifting and stationary bike intervals i could tolerate
the most fun thing i ever did for aerobic exercise was ballroom dancing--swing, cha cha, salsa, waltz...not only was it good cardio exercise, but it eventually paid off in sex, although it took several months to become a good enough dancer to date women from dance class
sorry for the unsolicited advice...just a few suggestions if you hit a plateau...again, congratulations on your achievement!
Americans have become increasingly fatter ever since the surgeon generals warning regarding smoking.
Get back to basics. What worked for your parents and grandparents can work for you.
Couple Marlboros between meals takes the edge off and satisfies whatever oral fixation you fat guys suffer from.
You'll find hitting the max heart rate in the gym will occur quicker making the whole lifting thing less of a drawn out task.
Cigarettes appear expensive and that might deter you but think about your last trip to Chipotle and you'll grudging admit skipping the cigarettes is a false economy.
DJ Chaps is a lean fightin machine. You have next to no chance of outliving Keith Richards or matching his bmi but you need role models.
GL
34 pounds down now, starting to increase walking as lower weight makes it easier to walk faster and for longer, to offset TDEE taper. calories in, calories out, everything else is bollocks.
nice job dude.congrats
Keep up the good work.
Had a meat pie tonight. Lovely. Still losing steadily, now down 44 pounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins
Now you're down to 368. I kid I kid. Keep up the good work.Quote:
Originally Posted by WiganerHad a meat pie tonight. Lovely. Still losing steadily, now down 44 pounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins
serious question: I'm a former full time bike messenger. I ride my bike a lot, more than I drive a car sometimes (depends on where i'm going). I had a friend lose a lot of weight after he became a full time messenger (I think he weighed close to 300 and lost almost 75 lbs within 6 months of working full time). My question is, do you ride bikes at all? Or is your weight loss from purely other forms of excercise and eating well.
I know i'm blessed with a fast metabolisim (i one time passed a drug test in 11 days) so im curious about what cycling can do for other people who don't have as fast as a metabolism
keep up the weight loss, you'll thank yourself.
Only exercise is walking. I have never cycled - was ill when i was a kid and never learned how to ride a bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryLaffer
By ill do you mean retarded? Get on the seat and fucking move the pedals.Quote:
Originally Posted by WiganerOnly exercise is walking. I have never cycled - was ill when i was a kid and never learned how to ride a bike.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryLaffer
52 pounds down.
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Originally Posted by Wiganer
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Originally Posted by Wiganer
congrats, gl and keep it up.
Congrats. Look out behind you though, your currency is out walking the dog twice a day.
Your not suggesting Bulimia I hopeQuote:
Originally Posted by spennywins:anditsgoneQuote:
Originally Posted by Wiganer
congrats, gl and keep it up.
The way the UK is going I'll have to generate my own electricity with a treadmill.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Congrats man. Keep it up.
68 pounds down, no longer morbidly obese, just obese.
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Bump, my advice to those still overweight or obese is to change how you view food, it is either a poison or a cure. Fast food=poison. Foods in their natural form a cure. Every time you bite a French fry or burger tell yourself you are eating poison, because it is.
Start exercising everyday. I am against 3x a week, a habit is only formed when doing something daily. Cardio needs to be done daily. Ya, weights require a day of rest but no excuse not to do cardio daily. Even if you can only walk 5 mins to start, do it. Add a minute everyday. Goal is 20 mins of heavy breathing cardio a day. Once you have enough weight off you will want to do more activity BECAUSE YOU CAN.
Never before has being fit become more important, it always was, but since it wasn’t in your face, you pocketed it in the back of your mind.
IN YOUR FACE, you can do this.
Hugs.
First off, I'd like to hear from Wiganer if he kept the weight off, now that it's 3.5 years later.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
Second, a question for you, splitthis: Have you ever been fat, and if so, how much overweight were you?
Lifetime skinny people telling overweight people, "Get self control and lose weight!" is as annoying someone with normal brain chemistry telling a clinically depressed person, "Just smile and realize it will all be okay!"
Every single person is different when it comes to challenges with weight. There is a behavioral element, sure. However, even that behavioral element is much tougher for some than others.
I haven't put anything in my mouth except water for the past 9 hours. I sit here very hungry and very much wanting to scarf down all kinds of high calorie foods and drinks, but I'm forcing myself not to do so. My metabolism is actually above average for my age (not way above, but definitely on the better side), but I also have a huge appetite, and that's been my particular weight challenge. Some of you have seen me eating on poker live streams. Earlier this year at Commerce, I ordered a large meal. A guy at the table asked me, "Wait, that's only for you? Not for a second person?" I answered, "The honest truth is that I could easily eat double all of this right now, if I wanted to."
For some people, their brain is wired to where they can easily avoid overeating, and to where the desire to exercise regularly comes naturally. For others, it's a big struggle to avoid overeating, and exercising can feel like a chore.
I don't drink or do drugs. I could pat myself on the back for having the discipline to avoid these habits, but that would be a lie. I never had a desire to do either of these. It's just not part of my makeup. Others find themselves extremely attracted to mind and mood altering substances. For them, keeping away from drug addiction and alcoholism is a constant battle. For me it happens automatically.
The bottom line is that you have to understand that we're all different, and that what comes easy for you can be quite difficult for others, and vice-versa.
That's not to say we shouldn't try to control ourselves. That's why I've lost 11 pounds during the coronavirus pandemic, while most others have gained. But it's been tough, and while I strive to drop another 10 pounds, it will continue to be tough.
No Druff, not "everyone is different". You commonly say you eat one big meal a day. That is probably 1,500 calories in one sitting. That is simply lack of self control, nothing to do with being genetically different. When you get a steak, leave the gigantic baked potato and three rolls to the side. Carbs will always be the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffFirst off, I'd like to hear from Wiganer if he kept the weight off, now that it's 3.5 years later.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
Second, a question for you, splitthis: Have you ever been fat, and if so, how much overweight were you?
Lifetime skinny people telling overweight people, "Get self control and lose weight!" is as annoying someone with normal brain chemistry telling a clinically depressed person, "Just smile and realize it will all be okay!"
Every single person is different when it comes to challenges with weight. There is a behavioral element, sure. However, even that behavioral element is much tougher for some than others.
I haven't put anything in my mouth except water for the past 9 hours. I sit here very hungry and very much wanting to scarf down all kinds of high calorie foods and drinks, but I'm forcing myself not to do so. My metabolism is actually above average for my age (not way above, but definitely on the better side), but I also have a huge appetite, and that's been my particular weight challenge. Some of you have seen me eating on poker live streams. Earlier this year at Commerce, I ordered a large meal. A guy at the table asked me, "Wait, that's only for you? Not for a second person?" I answered, "The honest truth is that I could easily eat double all of this right now, if I wanted to."
For some people, their brain is wired to where they can easily avoid overeating, and to where the desire to exercise regularly comes naturally. For others, it's a big struggle to avoid overeating, and exercising can feel like a chore.
I don't drink or do drugs. I could pat myself on the back for having the discipline to avoid these habits, but that would be a lie. I never had a desire to do either of these. It's just not part of my makeup. Others find themselves extremely attracted to mind and mood altering substances. For them, keeping away from drug addiction and alcoholism is a constant battle. For me it happens automatically.
The bottom line is that you have to understand that we're all different, and that what comes easy for you can be quite difficult for others, and vice-versa.
That's not to say we shouldn't try to control ourselves. That's why I've lost 11 pounds during the coronavirus pandemic, while most others have gained. But it's been tough, and while I strive to drop another 10 pounds, it will continue to be tough.